Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Dear Jay, This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will definitely change. Is it not? Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 wrote: J. Weiss <b4u286 Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM Friends, For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? See article (among others) at http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. html Best regards /Jay Weiss Super challenging event for astrology Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Dear Krishna, According to the information that I could gather the data are as followed: 26-January-2009 Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center Los Angeles, Ca. USA. As to the divisional charts - see for yourself... (I guess 2-3 will also have the same D60). Greetings /Jay Weiss --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:14 PM Dear Jay, This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will definitely change. Is it not? Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 > wrote: J. Weiss <b4u286 > Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM Friends, For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? See article (among others) at http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. html Best regards /Jay Weiss Super challenging event for astrology Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Dear Jay, Thanks for the confirmation on the birth date. This news is very exciting for me as I had written an article on twin births which was also published in Saptarishis Astro Magazine (Aug. 2008). For Twin births (also applicable for multiple births), I had made the following two postulations: - The lagna lord (or its dispositor, or some times dispositors dispositor) undergo a parivartana/Srinkhala - The lagna lord will have a close sambandha with either Jupiter (karaka of 11th house or the 11th lord). I am excited to see that both the postulations have come true in this case. 1. Lagna lord is Mars. Mars is involved in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. Mars is disposited by Jupiter in Rasi. Jupiter's dispositor Saturn is also involved in a parivrtana with Sun. 2. Lagna lord is disposited by karaka of 11th Jupiter. Mars is also in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. I had given one more postulation for identical twins which is not applicable in this particular case. My article may be found at http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com It would very interesting to study the charts and follow the life of these babies! Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 wrote: J - Weiss <b4u286 Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 10:22 PM Dear Krishna, According to the information that I could gather the data are as followed: 26-January-2009 Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center Los Angeles, Ca. USA. As to the divisional charts - see for yourself... (I guess 2-3 will also have the same D60). Greetings /Jay Weiss --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:14 PM Dear Jay, This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will definitely change. Is it not? Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 > wrote: J. Weiss <b4u286 > Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM Friends, For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? See article (among others) at http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. html Best regards /Jay Weiss Super challenging event for astrology Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Shaastiamsa should change surely? - Krishnamurthy Seetharama Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:14 PM Re: Super challenging event for astrology Dear Jay, This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will definitely change. Is it not? Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 wrote: J. Weiss <b4u286 Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM Friends, For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? See article (among others) at http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. html Best regards /Jay Weiss Super challenging event for astrology Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I read your article and it is brilliant and coincidentally I was in a position to test your findings immediately, when a client came whose chart had the significations for twins, so I was able to correctly predict the younger brother was a twin but died. - Krishnamurthy Seetharama Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:02 PM Re: Super challenging event for astrology Dear Jay, Thanks for the confirmation on the birth date. This news is very exciting for me as I had written an article on twin births which was also published in Saptarishis Astro Magazine (Aug. 2008). For Twin births (also applicable for multiple births), I had made the following two postulations: - The lagna lord (or its dispositor, or some times dispositors dispositor) undergo a parivartana/Srinkhala - The lagna lord will have a close sambandha with either Jupiter (karaka of 11th house or the 11th lord). I am excited to see that both the postulations have come true in this case. 1. Lagna lord is Mars. Mars is involved in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. Mars is disposited by Jupiter in Rasi. Jupiter's dispositor Saturn is also involved in a parivrtana with Sun. 2. Lagna lord is disposited by karaka of 11th Jupiter. Mars is also in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. I had given one more postulation for identical twins which is not applicable in this particular case. My article may be found at http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com It would very interesting to study the charts and follow the life of these babies! Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 wrote: J - Weiss <b4u286 Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 10:22 PM Dear Krishna, According to the information that I could gather the data are as followed: 26-January-2009 Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center Los Angeles, Ca. USA. As to the divisional charts - see for yourself... (I guess 2-3 will also have the same D60). Greetings /Jay Weiss --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:14 PM Dear Jay, This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will definitely change. Is it not? Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 > wrote: J. Weiss <b4u286 > Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM Friends, For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? See article (among others) at http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. html Best regards /Jay Weiss Super challenging event for astrology Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Dear krishna, Yes, I did read your VERY interesting article. Many of us do some sort of astro-research and once in a while come up with astonishing findings, like in your case. Indeed it will be interesting to follow these small guys development BUT the question is if there is anyone out there who dare to make predictions in such a case, given the circumstances. Personally I see that as a huge challenge. Also, we don't know 'who is born when' i.e. the birth order (just think of D-3 for all 8 siblings...). Kind regards /Jay Weiss --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > Re: Super challenging event for astrology > > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:02 PM > Dear Jay, > > Thanks for the confirmation on the birth date. > > This news is very exciting for me as I had written an > article on twin births which was also published in > Saptarishis Astro Magazine (Aug. 2008). For Twin births > (also applicable for multiple births), I had made the > following two postulations: > > - The lagna lord (or its dispositor, or some times > dispositors dispositor) undergo a parivartana/Srinkhala > > - The lagna lord will have a close sambandha with either > Jupiter (karaka of 11th house or the 11th lord). > > I am excited to see that both the postulations have come > true in this case. > > 1. Lagna lord is Mars. Mars is involved in a parivartana > with Jupiter in Navamsha. Mars is disposited by Jupiter in > Rasi. Jupiter's dispositor Saturn is also involved in a > parivrtana with Sun. > > 2. Lagna lord is disposited by karaka of 11th Jupiter. Mars > is also in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. > > I had given one more postulation for identical twins which > is not applicable in this particular case. > > My article may be found at http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com > > > It would very interesting to study the charts and follow > the life of these babies! > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 > wrote: > J - Weiss <b4u286 > Re: Super challenging event for > astrology > > Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 10:22 PM > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > According to the information that I could gather the data > are as followed: > > > > 26-January-2009 > > Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) > > Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center > > Los Angeles, Ca. USA. > > > > As to the divisional charts - see for yourself... (I guess > 2-3 will also have the same D60). > > > > Greetings > > /Jay Weiss > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@ > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > > Re: Super challenging event for > astrology > > > > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:14 PM > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please > confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given > link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. > > > > One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 > minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will > definitely change. Is it not? > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 > > wrote: > > > > J. Weiss <b4u286 > > > > > Super challenging event for > astrology > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM > > > > Friends, > > > > For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los > Angeles, Ca.) > > > > gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. > > > > This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same > chart all the > > > > way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. > > > > Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? > > > > See article (among others) at > > > > http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. > html > > > > Best regards > > > > /Jay Weiss > > > > Super challenging event for astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Hi, I am happy that my work was of some use to you. Thanks for the feedback :-) Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, Marg <margie9 wrote: Marg <margie9 Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 10:59 PM I read your article and it is brilliant and coincidentally I was in a position to test your findings immediately, when a client came whose chart had the significations for twins, so I was able to correctly predict the younger brother was a twin but died. - Krishnamurthy Seetharama Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:02 PM Re: Super challenging event for astrology Dear Jay, Thanks for the confirmation on the birth date. This news is very exciting for me as I had written an article on twin births which was also published in Saptarishis Astro Magazine (Aug. 2008). For Twin births (also applicable for multiple births), I had made the following two postulations: - The lagna lord (or its dispositor, or some times dispositors dispositor) undergo a parivartana/ Srinkhala - The lagna lord will have a close sambandha with either Jupiter (karaka of 11th house or the 11th lord). I am excited to see that both the postulations have come true in this case. 1. Lagna lord is Mars. Mars is involved in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. Mars is disposited by Jupiter in Rasi. Jupiter's dispositor Saturn is also involved in a parivrtana with Sun. 2. Lagna lord is disposited by karaka of 11th Jupiter. Mars is also in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. I had given one more postulation for identical twins which is not applicable in this particular case. My article may be found at http://astrokrishna .blogspot. com It would very interesting to study the charts and follow the life of these babies! Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 > wrote: J - Weiss <b4u286 > Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 10:22 PM Dear Krishna, According to the information that I could gather the data are as followed: 26-January-2009 Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center Los Angeles, Ca. USA. As to the divisional charts - see for yourself... (I guess 2-3 will also have the same D60). Greetings /Jay Weiss --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:14 PM Dear Jay, This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will definitely change. Is it not? Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 > wrote: J. Weiss <b4u286 > Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM Friends, For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? See article (among others) at http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. html Best regards /Jay Weiss Super challenging event for astrology Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Dear Jay, Thanks for your kind words about my work. Yes, I agree with you that it is a huge challenge to make any prediction in this case and any one attempts to do so would have to depend mainly on varga charts and might find them to be highly inadequate as well. Of late, I am working on birth time rectification. I am in the process of finalizing my write-up. It will be published soon. According to that theory, I feel that the deliveries might have happened somewhere between 10:39 and 10:44. I am in the process of calculating the actual individual times. Since, one has to largely depend on varga charts to study this case, I feel it is essential to have accurate time to go forward on this case. Will post more later on this thread. Regards, Krishna --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 wrote: J - Weiss <b4u286 Re: Super challenging event for astrology Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 11:20 PM Dear krishna, Yes, I did read your VERY interesting article. Many of us do some sort of astro-research and once in a while come up with astonishing findings, like in your case. Indeed it will be interesting to follow these small guys development BUT the question is if there is anyone out there who dare to make predictions in such a case, given the circumstances. Personally I see that as a huge challenge. Also, we don't know 'who is born when' i.e. the birth order (just think of D-3 for all 8 siblings...) . Kind regards /Jay Weiss --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > Re: Super challenging event for astrology > > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:02 PM > Dear Jay, > > Thanks for the confirmation on the birth date. > > This news is very exciting for me as I had written an > article on twin births which was also published in > Saptarishis Astro Magazine (Aug. 2008). For Twin births > (also applicable for multiple births), I had made the > following two postulations: > > - The lagna lord (or its dispositor, or some times > dispositors dispositor) undergo a parivartana/ Srinkhala > > - The lagna lord will have a close sambandha with either > Jupiter (karaka of 11th house or the 11th lord). > > I am excited to see that both the postulations have come > true in this case. > > 1. Lagna lord is Mars. Mars is involved in a parivartana > with Jupiter in Navamsha. Mars is disposited by Jupiter in > Rasi. Jupiter's dispositor Saturn is also involved in a > parivrtana with Sun. > > 2. Lagna lord is disposited by karaka of 11th Jupiter. Mars > is also in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. > > I had given one more postulation for identical twins which > is not applicable in this particular case. > > My article may be found at http://astrokrishna .blogspot. com > > > It would very interesting to study the charts and follow > the life of these babies! > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 > > wrote: > J - Weiss <b4u286 > > Re: Super challenging event for > astrology > > Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 10:22 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > According to the information that I could gather the data > are as followed: > > > > 26-January-2009 > > Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) > > Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center > > Los Angeles, Ca. USA. > > > > As to the divisional charts - see for yourself... (I guess > 2-3 will also have the same D60). > > > > Greetings > > /Jay Weiss > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@ > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > > Re: Super challenging event for > astrology > > > > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:14 PM > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please > confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given > link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. > > > > One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 > minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will > definitely change. Is it not? > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 > > wrote: > > > > J. Weiss <b4u286 > > > > > Super challenging event for > astrology > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM > > > > Friends, > > > > For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los > Angeles, Ca.) > > > > gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. > > > > This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same > chart all the > > > > way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. > > > > Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? > > > > See article (among others) at > > > > http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. > html > > > > Best regards > > > > /Jay Weiss > > > > Super challenging event for astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Pardon me but data suggest that it is not a frequent challenge! Using the model that modern medicine has had to adopt given its urgency and so on! It has a larger number of 'generalists' who deal with more frequent and simpler problems, such as marriage, education, jobs, gandanta dosha (!), KSY, VRY, MD (mangal dosha -- and not your favourite doctor!) while there are specialists for special and difficult situations -- very important for a given individual nativity, but rare! Even though multiple pregnancies (triplets and higher) are becoming increasingly frequent and have been strongly associated with ovulation inducers (as women wait longer and longer to beget biologically-their-own babies but the biological clock ticks away, such pharmaceutical measures become necessary from what I hear...), perhaps adoption of the millions of orphaned babies may be a better choice! Sorry for irrelevant post! RR , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Jay, > > Thanks for your kind words about my work. > > Yes, I agree with you that it is a huge challenge to make any prediction in this case and any one attempts to do so would have to depend mainly on varga charts and might find them to be highly inadequate as well. > > Of late, I am working on birth time rectification. I am in the process of finalizing my write-up. It will be published soon. According to that theory, I feel that the deliveries might have happened somewhere between 10:39 and 10:44. I am in the process of calculating the actual individual times. Since, one has to largely depend on varga charts to study this case, I feel it is essential to have accurate time to go forward on this case. > > Will post more later on this thread. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 wrote: > J - Weiss <b4u286 > Re: Super challenging event for astrology > > Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 11:20 PM > > > > > Dear krishna, > > > > Yes, I did read your VERY interesting article. > > Many of us do some sort of astro-research and once in a while come up with astonishing findings, like in your case. > > > > Indeed it will be interesting to follow these small guys development BUT the question is if there is anyone out there who dare to make predictions in such a case, given the circumstances. > > Personally I see that as a huge challenge. > > Also, we don't know 'who is born when' i.e. the birth order (just think of D-3 for all 8 siblings...) . > > > > Kind regards > > /Jay Weiss > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > > Re: Super challenging event for astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:02 PM > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > > Thanks for the confirmation on the birth date. > > > > > > This news is very exciting for me as I had written an > > > article on twin births which was also published in > > > Saptarishis Astro Magazine (Aug. 2008). For Twin births > > > (also applicable for multiple births), I had made the > > > following two postulations: > > > > > > - The lagna lord (or its dispositor, or some times > > > dispositors dispositor) undergo a parivartana/ Srinkhala > > > > > > - The lagna lord will have a close sambandha with either > > > Jupiter (karaka of 11th house or the 11th lord). > > > > > > I am excited to see that both the postulations have come > > > true in this case. > > > > > > 1. Lagna lord is Mars. Mars is involved in a parivartana > > > with Jupiter in Navamsha. Mars is disposited by Jupiter in > > > Rasi. Jupiter's dispositor Saturn is also involved in a > > > parivrtana with Sun. > > > > > > 2. Lagna lord is disposited by karaka of 11th Jupiter. Mars > > > is also in a parivartana with Jupiter in Navamsha. > > > > > > I had given one more postulation for identical twins which > > > is not applicable in this particular case. > > > > > > My article may be found at http://astrokrishna .blogspot. com > > > > > > > > > It would very interesting to study the charts and follow > > > the life of these babies! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J - Weiss <b4u286 > > > > wrote: > > > J - Weiss <b4u286 > > > > Re: Super challenging event for > > > astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 10:22 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > > > According to the information that I could gather the data > > > are as followed: > > > > > > > > > > > > 26-January-2009 > > > > > > Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) > > > > > > Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center > > > > > > Los Angeles, Ca. USA. > > > > > > > > > > > > As to the divisional charts - see for yourself... (I guess > > > 2-3 will also have the same D60). > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > /Jay Weiss > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@ > wrote: > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: Super challenging event for > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is really very interesting news indeed! Can you please > > > confirm the date of birth. I don't see it in the given > > > link. I guess it is Jan 26, but I want to be sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > One question, if the difference in birth is about 5 > > > minutes, the lagnas in some of the divisional charts will > > > definitely change. Is it not? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, J. Weiss <b4u286 > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > J. Weiss <b4u286 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super challenging event for > > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los > > > Angeles, Ca.) > > > > > > > > > > > > gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same > > > chart all the > > > > > > > > > > > > way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we have a challange to explain that - who dares ? > > > > > > > > > > > > See article (among others) at > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cbs2. com/local/ octuplets. Bellflower. 8.2.918372. > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > > > > > > > /Jay Weiss > > > > > > > > > > > > Super challenging event for astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India > > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Namah Shivaya, Dear Jay, Yes, this is a challange. However, luckily, the Shastiamsa is not the final say, though having same shastiamsa charts really indicates the very similar destiny. Now the question remains, what were the times of cutting the umbillical cors? Janma Vighatika Grahas will be different in charts. There are also other more subtle divisions such as nava navamsa, nava dvadasamsa etc... Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , " J. Weiss " <weissjay wrote: > > Friends, > > For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) > gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. > This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the > way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. > > Now we have a challenge to explain that - who dares ? > > See article (among others) at > http://cbs2.com/local/octuplets.Bellflower.8.2.918372.html > > Best regards > /Jay Weiss > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 To all learned astrolgers, IN such cases only KP method of delineating the horoscope thru sub or sub-sub will help in reading the horoscope. Thanks........Sundar , " J. Weiss " <weissjay wrote: > > Friends, > > For the second time in known history, a woman (in Los Angeles, Ca.) > gave birth to 8[!] babies within 5 minutes. > This indicates that several babies have EXACTLY the same chart all the > way THROUGH D-60, the Sastyamsa. > > Now we have a challenge to explain that - who dares ? > > See article (among others) at > http://cbs2.com/local/octuplets.Bellflower.8.2.918372.html > > Best regards > /Jay Weiss > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yes. I agree with Mr.Sundar. If one has an accurate birth time we can get accurate chart using KP. Especially in such cases. -JR Julius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dear members, Astro_Pointers to be verified : 1) The much covered Octopulets - The mind of the mother giving birth for she seems be either an object of some medical research study 2) Or an mental case { she is otherwise normal, as per detailed interviews conducted by media, without job, living on govt. money given to jobless citizens...} 3) Illegal affairs...for father is Unknown....for she is a Single mother to all her total 6 nos existing + 8 nos. new babies= Total 14 nos. 4) Assisted or medically supported fertility... Note : Penned few pointers that raged my mind at time of writing this ...... --------- Knowing that the link would NOT work beyond certain period, hence reproducing the content from that URL : { most disgusting news to hear & read....} Bellflower is a city in Los Angeles County, California, United States Latitude : 33‹53Œ17N Longitude : 118‹7Œ39W Note: The mother revealed that she has taken help of frozen embroys, fertility treatment...etc., ...In total with these Octulets, she is mother of l - 14 children. Of the existing 6 children, two of them are twins, at the time of delivery these twins are aged 2 yrs., the eldest of six children is aged 7 yrs. As per the internet verified news from authoritative sources the ages of the existing 6 children in descending order - 7yrs, 6 yrs, 5 yrs, 3 yrs, & 2 yr old twins. Interestingly the father of the Octopulets is UNKNOWN. Octopulets - 6 boys + 2 girls. The mother was only child to her parents. Oh Baby! Mom Gives Birth To 8 Babies In 5 Minutes BELLFLOWER (CBS) \ Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower, said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well. Doctors say the next few days will be critical for eight babies born to a mother at a hospital in Bellflower. All are listed in stable condition. Their birth marked the second time in history live octuplets have been born. "Today we had an unprecedented, very exciting day in our operating room and labor delivery where our team of 46 physicians, nurses, respiratory therapists as well as surgical techs delivered eight babies, all live born," Dr. Karen Maples said at the Kaiser Permanente hospital. "It was a truly, truly amazing delivery. The babies are currently in stable condition." Kaiser spokeswoman Mayra Suarez said the birth began at 10:43 a.m., and the babies range from 1 pound 8 ounces to 3 pounds 4 ounces. Doctors said two of the babies, who were delivered by Caesarian section, have had breathing tubes inserted and were on ventilators, and a third needs some additional oxygen. But overall, the infants were crying and kicking and doing well. The mother was also doing well, doctors said. The mother has asked to remain anonymous and asked officials not to release detailed information about her care -- including whether she had been taking fertility drugs. "The delivery process went very smoothly," Dr. Harold Henry said. "We practiced several dry runs and the actual delivery process only took about five minutes to deliver all eight babies." Maples said the babies were delivered about nine weeks premature, and doctors were only anticipating seven of them. "In anticipation of seven babies, we made sure we were prepared by doing some drills, some preliminary dry runs to make sure we had everything in place for these seven babies," Maples said. "But lo and behold, after we got to Baby G, which is what we expected, we were surprised by the discovery of a Baby H, and that was the eighth baby that we delivered." Doctors said the first three to seven days are a critical time for such a mass, premature birth, but said the prognosis looked good for all of them. They also said it was not unusual for doctors to have been surprised by the eighth baby. "It is quite easy to miss a baby when you have seven," Henry said. "When you're anticipating seven, it is extremely difficult to perform an ultrasound." The first live-born octuplets, six girls and two boys, were born in Houston in 1998. One of the girls died after a week. The Kaiser Permanente doctors said they were still getting over the surprise of the octuplet birth. "It was a shock, especially with the eighth baby, my eyes were definitely wide," Maples said. "... And this patient was incredibly courageous, very strong, did all that we asked to ... have an optimal outcome for delivery. She was a marvelous patient." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dear Srinivas ji and all, I am simple astrologer with no magic wand to explain everything at hand, who depends on mainly Brihajjataka and some of the available quotes of ancient rishi horas to decipher the results. I am trying to look into this unique event from my simple and basic understanding of astrology. >> > 26-January-2009 >> > Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out) >> > Place: Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center >> > Los Angeles, Ca. USA. >>> Latitude : 33 E 53 >>> Longitude : 118 W 39 Ayanamsa Used = Muladhara Ayanamsa of Surya Siddhanta (44 min more than Lahari) Year Length Used = 360 degree solar year. Tool Used : JHora 7.02 Lagna Star = Aswini. First the BT is rectified by unsing Kunda sputa (to make the Kunada sputa fall Mula, in the trine star of Aswini). Rectified BT: 10.44 AM The only other moment within the given time frame of 10.43 to 10.48, that qualifies as per Kunda calculation is 10.48 AM. Since it was an operation and not a natural birth, checking whether the given BT is suitable for boy or girl birth etc are all useless here. It is better to think, that man modified the rhythm of nature with his own will. But if something peculiar happens at some moment of time (here the 'Octopulets') that definitely should get reflected in the chart of that moment - and so I feel like searching this potential for multiplicity (Octopulets taking birth in that very window of time) in the chart of the said moment. And in doing so I would prefer to go by the astrological moment that reflects destiny as per Kunda Lagna method - i.e. 10.44 AM. I casted the chart for that moment and got the following result - Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 3 Ar 05' 37.31" Aswi 1 Ar Ar Sun 12 Cp 14' 26.95" Srav 1 Cp Ar Moon 17 Cp 13' 04.49" Srav 3 Cp Ge Mars 28 Sg 26' 13.76" USha 1 Sg Sg Mercury ® 29 Sg 09' 00.52" USha 1 Sg Sg Jupiter - 10 Cp 15' 35.61" Srav 1 Cp Ar Venus - 28 Aq 49' 10.87" PBha 3 Aq Ge Saturn ® 26 Le 26' 23.65" PPha 4 Le Sc Rahu 14 Cp 52' 37.94" Srav 2 Cp Ta Ketu 14 Cn 52' 37.94" Push 4 Cn Sc Maandi 0 Ge 57' 14.50" Mrig 3 Ge Li Gulika 21 Ta 34' 06.54" Rohi 4 Ta Cn Kunda 10 Sg 35' 21.85" Mool 4 Sg Cn Now with the chart at hand some where we should start. Let us start with Lagna itself. I have the following base info and would like to verify whether those simple basic rules applies this chart of multiple births. 1) Own house indicate 2, Vargottama and exaltation 3, and more vargas in one place that many. 2) For anything multiple - a connection with the duel signs and for multiple births, a special connection with the Gemini sign I would expect. 3) There should a strong connection of Lagna or Lagna lord to all this. Does these basic conditions apply to the given chart? The answer is yes! 1) As per Parivritti rule (Harmonics) 1-9 Vargas of Lagna longitude is in that sign itself!! Indicating 8 or even 9! 2) The lagna, Lagna lord Mars are both vargottama. The Lagna lord Mars is in duel sign, with Mercury (the lord of Gemini). Mercury is also in Vargottama! All factors indicating multiplicity. 3) Lagna and Lagna lord both connected to Gemini, Duel sign, multiple harmonics of lagna etc. 4) The 3rd house indicate coborns. From Aries the 3rd lord is Mercury. Mercury consumed 8 full navamsa (Mercury is placed in the 9th navamsa of Sag) indicating 8 co-borns. [The 2nd, 4ht and 5th of them may have only a short life]. The 11th house indicate elder co-borns. 11th lord Saturn consumed 8 Navamsas out of which 2 afflicted by malefics indicating that there is a possibility of 6 elder co-borns and 2 lost or non-surviving kids. Further there is many combinations present in the chart that indicate the absence of father at the time of child birth. For example, as per Mihira - 1) Lagna is not aspected by Moon; Sun is in 10-11-12; Sun is in movable sign - if these 3 conditions are met, then the child took birth in the absence of father. This combination is true for this chart. 2) Sun is in quadruped sign, All other planets are strong, Lagna lord in duel sign - if these 3 conditions are ment, then there would be multiple births (especially two), covered with a special type of skin. - This combination is also true for this chart. Further study of this chart may reveal many other factors as well. Love and regards, Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear members, > > Astro_Pointers to be verified : > > 1) The much covered Octopulets - The mind of the mother giving birth > for she seems be either an object of some medical research study > > 2) Or an mental case { she is otherwise normal, as per detailed > interviews conducted by media, without job, living on govt. money given > to jobless citizens...} > > 3) Illegal affairs...for father is Unknown....for she is a Single mother > to all her total 6 nos existing + 8 nos. new babies= Total 14 nos. > > 4) Assisted or medically supported fertility... > > Note : Penned few pointers that raged my mind at time of writing this > ...... > > ------\ > --------------- > > Knowing that the link would NOT work beyond certain period, hence > reproducing the content from that URL : { most disgusting news to hear & > read....} > > Bellflower is a city in Los Angeles County, California, United States > > Latitude : 33‹53Œ17N > > Longitude : 118‹7Œ39W > > Note: The mother revealed that she has taken help of frozen embroys, > fertility treatment...etc., ...In total with these Octulets, she is > mother of l - 14 children. Of the existing 6 children, two of them > are twins, at the time of delivery these twins are aged 2 yrs., the > eldest of six children is aged 7 yrs. As per the internet verified > news from authoritative sources the ages of the existing 6 children in > descending order - 7yrs, 6 yrs, 5 yrs, 3 yrs, & 2 yr old twins. > > Interestingly the father of the Octopulets is UNKNOWN. > > Octopulets - 6 boys + 2 girls. > > The mother was only child to her parents. > > Oh Baby! Mom Gives Birth To 8 Babies In 5 Minutes > > BELLFLOWER (CBS) \ > > > > Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser > Permanente in Bellflower, > > said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well. > > Doctors say the next few days will be critical for eight babies born to > a mother at a hospital in Bellflower. > > All are listed in stable condition. > > Their birth marked the second time in history live octuplets have been > born. > > "Today we had an unprecedented, very exciting day in our operating room > and labor delivery where our team of 46 physicians, nurses, respiratory > therapists as well as surgical techs delivered eight babies, all live > born," Dr. Karen Maples said at the Kaiser Permanente hospital. "It was > a truly, truly amazing delivery. The babies are currently in stable > condition." > > Kaiser spokeswoman Mayra Suarez said the birth began at 10:43 a.m., and > the babies range from 1 pound 8 ounces to 3 pounds 4 ounces. > > Doctors said two of the babies, who were delivered by Caesarian section, > have had breathing tubes inserted and were on ventilators, and a third > needs some additional oxygen. But overall, the infants were crying and > kicking and doing well. > > The mother was also doing well, doctors said. The mother has asked to > remain anonymous and asked officials not to release detailed information > about her care -- including whether she had been taking fertility drugs. > > "The delivery process went very smoothly," Dr. Harold Henry said. "We > practiced several dry runs and the actual delivery process only took > about five minutes to deliver all eight babies." > > Maples said the babies were delivered about nine weeks premature, and > doctors were only anticipating seven of them. > > "In anticipation of seven babies, we made sure we were prepared by doing > some drills, some preliminary dry runs to make sure we had everything in > place for these seven babies," Maples said. "But lo and behold, after we > got to Baby G, which is what we expected, we were surprised by the > discovery of a Baby H, and that was the eighth baby that we delivered." > > Doctors said the first three to seven days are a critical time for such > a mass, premature birth, but said the prognosis looked good for all of > them. They also said it was not unusual for doctors to have been > surprised by the eighth baby. > > "It is quite easy to miss a baby when you have seven," Henry said. "When > you're anticipating seven, it is extremely difficult to perform an > ultrasound." > > The first live-born octuplets, six girls and two boys, were born in > Houston in 1998. One of the girls died after a week. > > The Kaiser Permanente doctors said they were still getting over the > surprise of the octuplet birth. > > "It was a shock, especially with the eighth baby, my eyes were > definitely wide," Maples said. "... And this patient was incredibly > courageous, very strong, did all that we asked to ... have an optimal > outcome for delivery. She was a marvelous patient." > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 dear sreenadh ji i appreciate u for this woderful analysis let me share a nadi dictum here for the benefit of grp most of the multiple births ,the connection between jup or merc ( more so merc also mer is airy and jup is expansiv planet too ( this may b one of the other reasons ) ,as they are owners for natual dual signs ) with lagna/ lagna lord will b there by sambanth and role of dual signs or moovable signs cannot excluded ( This is just one indication ) even at times parents 5th house or lord also may b has one of this connection grp those willing can mov forward with this reserch regds sunil nair , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear Srinivas ji and all,> I am simple astrologer with no magic wand to explain everything at> hand, who depends on mainly Brihajjataka and some of the available> quotes of ancient rishi horas to decipher the results.> I am trying to look into this unique event from my simple and basic> understanding of astrology.> >> > 26-January-2009> >> > Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out)> >> > Place: Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center> >> > Los Angeles, Ca. USA.> >>> Latitude : 33 E 53> >>> Longitude : 118 W 39> > Ayanamsa Used = Muladhara Ayanamsa of Surya Siddhanta (44 min more than> Lahari)> Year Length Used = 360 degree solar year.> Tool Used : JHora 7.02> > Lagna Star = Aswini.> First the BT is rectified by unsing Kunda sputa (to make the Kunada> sputa fall Mula, in the trine star of Aswini).> Rectified BT: 10.44 AM> The only other moment within the given time frame of 10.43 to 10.48,> that qualifies as per Kunda calculation is 10.48 AM. Since it was an> operation and not a natural birth, checking whether the given BT is> suitable for boy or girl birth etc are all useless here. It is better to> think, that man modified the rhythm of nature with his own will. But if> something peculiar happens at some moment of time (here the> 'Octopulets') that definitely should get reflected in the chart of that> moment - and so I feel like searching this potential for multiplicity> (Octopulets taking birth in that very window of time) in the chart of> the said moment. And in doing so I would prefer to go by the> astrological moment that reflects destiny as per Kunda Lagna method -> i.e. 10.44 AM.> I casted the chart for that moment and got the following result -> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > Lagna 3 Ar 05' 37.31" Aswi 1 Ar Ar> Sun 12 Cp 14' 26.95" Srav 1 Cp Ar> Moon 17 Cp 13' 04.49" Srav 3 Cp Ge> Mars 28 Sg 26' 13.76" USha 1 Sg Sg> Mercury ® 29 Sg 09' 00.52" USha 1 Sg Sg> Jupiter - 10 Cp 15' 35.61" Srav 1 Cp Ar> Venus - 28 Aq 49' 10.87" PBha 3 Aq Ge> Saturn ® 26 Le 26' 23.65" PPha 4 Le Sc> Rahu 14 Cp 52' 37.94" Srav 2 Cp Ta> Ketu 14 Cn 52' 37.94" Push 4 Cn Sc> Maandi 0 Ge 57' 14.50" Mrig 3 Ge Li> Gulika 21 Ta 34' 06.54" Rohi 4 Ta Cn> Kunda 10 Sg 35' 21.85" Mool 4 Sg Cn> > Now with the chart at hand some where we should start. Let us start> with Lagna itself. I have the following base info and would like to> verify whether those simple basic rules applies this chart of multiple> births.> 1) Own house indicate 2, Vargottama and exaltation 3, and more vargas> in one place that many.> 2) For anything multiple - a connection with the duel signs and for> multiple births, a special connection with the Gemini sign I would> expect.> 3) There should a strong connection of Lagna or Lagna lord to all> this.> Does these basic conditions apply to the given chart? The answer is> yes!> 1) As per Parivritti rule (Harmonics) 1-9 Vargas of Lagna longitude is> in that sign itself!! Indicating 8 or even 9!> 2) The lagna, Lagna lord Mars are both vargottama. The Lagna lord Mars> is in duel sign, with Mercury (the lord of Gemini). Mercury is also in> Vargottama! All factors indicating multiplicity.> 3) Lagna and Lagna lord both connected to Gemini, Duel sign, multiple> harmonics of lagna etc.> 4) The 3rd house indicate coborns. From Aries the 3rd lord is> Mercury. Mercury consumed 8 full navamsa (Mercury is placed in the 9th> navamsa of Sag) indicating 8 co-borns. [The 2nd, 4ht and 5th of them may> have only a short life]. The 11th house indicate elder co-borns. 11th> lord Saturn consumed 8 Navamsas out of which 2 afflicted by malefics> indicating that there is a possibility of 6 elder co-borns and 2 lost or> non-surviving kids.> Further there is many combinations present in the chart that indicate> the absence of father at the time of child birth. For example, as per> Mihira -> 1) Lagna is not aspected by Moon; Sun is in 10-11-12; Sun is in> movable sign - if these 3 conditions are met, then the child took birth> in the absence of father. This combination is true for this chart.> 2) Sun is in quadruped sign, All other planets are strong, Lagna lord> in duel sign - if these 3 conditions are ment, then there would be> multiple births (especially two), covered with a special type of skin. -> This combination is also true for this chart.> > Further study of this chart may reveal many other factors as well.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "sreeram srinivas"> sreeram64@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear members,> >> > Astro_Pointers to be verified :> >> > 1) The much covered Octopulets - The mind of the mother giving birth> > for she seems be either an object of some medical research study> >> > 2) Or an mental case { she is otherwise normal, as per detailed> > interviews conducted by media, without job, living on govt. money> given> > to jobless citizens...}> >> > 3) Illegal affairs...for father is Unknown....for she is a Single> mother> > to all her total 6 nos existing + 8 nos. new babies= Total 14 nos.> >> > 4) Assisted or medically supported fertility...> >> > Note : Penned few pointers that raged my mind at time of writing this> > ......> >> >> ------\> \> > ---------------> >> > Knowing that the link would NOT work beyond certain period, hence> > reproducing the content from that URL : { most disgusting news to hear> & > > read....}> >> > Bellflower is a city in Los Angeles County, California, United States> >> > Latitude : 33‹53Œ17N> >> > Longitude : 118‹7Œ39W> >> > Note: The mother revealed that she has taken help of frozen embroys,> > fertility treatment...etc., ...In total with these Octulets, she is> > mother of l - 14 children. Of the existing 6 children, two of them> > are twins, at the time of delivery these twins are aged 2 yrs., the> > eldest of six children is aged 7 yrs. As per the internet verified> > news from authoritative sources the ages of the existing 6 children in> > descending order - 7yrs, 6 yrs, 5 yrs, 3 yrs, & 2 yr old twins.> >> > Interestingly the father of the Octopulets is UNKNOWN.> >> > Octopulets - 6 boys + 2 girls.> >> > The mother was only child to her parents.> >> > Oh Baby! Mom Gives Birth To 8 Babies In 5 Minutes> >> > BELLFLOWER (CBS) \> >> >> >> > Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser> > Permanente in Bellflower,> >> > said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well.> >> > Doctors say the next few days will be critical for eight babies born> to> > a mother at a hospital in Bellflower.> >> > All are listed in stable condition.> >> > Their birth marked the second time in history live octuplets have been> > born.> >> > "Today we had an unprecedented, very exciting day in our operating> room> > and labor delivery where our team of 46 physicians, nurses,> respiratory> > therapists as well as surgical techs delivered eight babies, all live> > born," Dr. Karen Maples said at the Kaiser Permanente hospital. "It> was> > a truly, truly amazing delivery. The babies are currently in stable> > condition."> >> > Kaiser spokeswoman Mayra Suarez said the birth began at 10:43 a.m.,> and> > the babies range from 1 pound 8 ounces to 3 pounds 4 ounces.> >> > Doctors said two of the babies, who were delivered by Caesarian> section,> > have had breathing tubes inserted and were on ventilators, and a third> > needs some additional oxygen. But overall, the infants were crying and> > kicking and doing well.> >> > The mother was also doing well, doctors said. The mother has asked to> > remain anonymous and asked officials not to release detailed> information> > about her care -- including whether she had been taking fertility> drugs.> >> > "The delivery process went very smoothly," Dr. Harold Henry said. "We> > practiced several dry runs and the actual delivery process only took> > about five minutes to deliver all eight babies."> >> > Maples said the babies were delivered about nine weeks premature, and> > doctors were only anticipating seven of them.> >> > "In anticipation of seven babies, we made sure we were prepared by> doing> > some drills, some preliminary dry runs to make sure we had everything> in> > place for these seven babies," Maples said. "But lo and behold, after> we> > got to Baby G, which is what we expected, we were surprised by the> > discovery of a Baby H, and that was the eighth baby that we> delivered."> >> > Doctors said the first three to seven days are a critical time for> such> > a mass, premature birth, but said the prognosis looked good for all of> > them. They also said it was not unusual for doctors to have been> > surprised by the eighth baby.> >> > "It is quite easy to miss a baby when you have seven," Henry said.> "When> > you're anticipating seven, it is extremely difficult to perform an> > ultrasound."> >> > The first live-born octuplets, six girls and two boys, were born in> > Houston in 1998. One of the girls died after a week.> >> > The Kaiser Permanente doctors said they were still getting over the> > surprise of the octuplet birth.> >> > "It was a shock, especially with the eighth baby, my eyes were> > definitely wide," Maples said. "... And this patient was incredibly> > courageous, very strong, did all that we asked to ... have an optimal> > outcome for delivery. She was a marvelous patient."> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dear Sunil ji, Thanks. There is one more pointer as well that may become useful in several other situations too - * Capricorn sign can indicate a dog or a pig - animals that can give birth to multiple children in on go. So the presence of Lagna, Moon or Sun in Capricorn can be a strong pointer towards multiple births. In the given chart, both Sun and Moon are in Capricon. Further Sun navamsaka is in another quadruped sign in lagna, and Moon's navamsaka is in gemini (another house that can indicate multiple births). Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > dear sreenadh ji> > i appreciate u for this woderful analysis> > > > let me share a nadi dictum here for the benefit of grp> > > > most of the multiple births ,the connection between jup or merc ( more> so merc also mer is airy and jup is expansiv planet too ( this may b> one of the other reasons ) ,as they are owners for natual dual signs )> with lagna/ lagna lord will b there by sambanth and role of dual signs> or moovable signs cannot excluded ( This is just one indication )> > even at times parents 5th house or lord also may b has one of this> connection> > > > grp those willing can mov forward with this reserch> > > > regds sunil nair> > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Srinivas ji and all,> > I am simple astrologer with no magic wand to explain everything at> > hand, who depends on mainly Brihajjataka and some of the available> > quotes of ancient rishi horas to decipher the results.> > I am trying to look into this unique event from my simple and basic> > understanding of astrology.> > >> > 26-January-2009> > >> > Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out)> > >> > Place: Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center> > >> > Los Angeles, Ca. USA.> > >>> Latitude : 33 E 53> > >>> Longitude : 118 W 39> >> > Ayanamsa Used = Muladhara Ayanamsa of Surya Siddhanta (44 min more> than> > Lahari)> > Year Length Used = 360 degree solar year.> > Tool Used : JHora 7.02> >> > Lagna Star = Aswini.> > First the BT is rectified by unsing Kunda sputa (to make the Kunada> > sputa fall Mula, in the trine star of Aswini).> > Rectified BT: 10.44 AM> > The only other moment within the given time frame of 10.43 to 10.48,> > that qualifies as per Kunda calculation is 10.48 AM. Since it was an> > operation and not a natural birth, checking whether the given BT is> > suitable for boy or girl birth etc are all useless here. It is better> to> > think, that man modified the rhythm of nature with his own will. But> if> > something peculiar happens at some moment of time (here the> > 'Octopulets') that definitely should get reflected in the chart of> that> > moment - and so I feel like searching this potential for multiplicity> > (Octopulets taking birth in that very window of time) in the chart of> > the said moment. And in doing so I would prefer to go by the> > astrological moment that reflects destiny as per Kunda Lagna method -> > i.e. 10.44 AM.> > I casted the chart for that moment and got the following result -> >> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> >> > Lagna 3 Ar 05' 37.31" Aswi 1 Ar Ar> > Sun 12 Cp 14' 26.95" Srav 1 Cp Ar> > Moon 17 Cp 13' 04.49" Srav 3 Cp Ge> > Mars 28 Sg 26' 13.76" USha 1 Sg Sg> > Mercury ® 29 Sg 09' 00.52" USha 1 Sg Sg> > Jupiter - 10 Cp 15' 35.61" Srav 1 Cp Ar> > Venus - 28 Aq 49' 10.87" PBha 3 Aq Ge> > Saturn ® 26 Le 26' 23.65" PPha 4 Le Sc> > Rahu 14 Cp 52' 37.94" Srav 2 Cp Ta> > Ketu 14 Cn 52' 37.94" Push 4 Cn Sc> > Maandi 0 Ge 57' 14.50" Mrig 3 Ge Li> > Gulika 21 Ta 34' 06.54" Rohi 4 Ta Cn> > Kunda 10 Sg 35' 21.85" Mool 4 Sg Cn> >> > Now with the chart at hand some where we should start. Let us start> > with Lagna itself. I have the following base info and would like to> > verify whether those simple basic rules applies this chart of multiple> > births.> > 1) Own house indicate 2, Vargottama and exaltation 3, and more vargas> > in one place that many.> > 2) For anything multiple - a connection with the duel signs and for> > multiple births, a special connection with the Gemini sign I would> > expect.> > 3) There should a strong connection of Lagna or Lagna lord to all> > this.> > Does these basic conditions apply to the given chart? The answer is> > yes!> > 1) As per Parivritti rule (Harmonics) 1-9 Vargas of Lagna longitude is> > in that sign itself!! Indicating 8 or even 9!> > 2) The lagna, Lagna lord Mars are both vargottama. The Lagna lord Mars> > is in duel sign, with Mercury (the lord of Gemini). Mercury is also in> > Vargottama! All factors indicating multiplicity.> > 3) Lagna and Lagna lord both connected to Gemini, Duel sign, multiple> > harmonics of lagna etc.> > 4) The 3rd house indicate coborns. From Aries the 3rd lord is> > Mercury. Mercury consumed 8 full navamsa (Mercury is placed in the 9th> > navamsa of Sag) indicating 8 co-borns. [The 2nd, 4ht and 5th of them> may> > have only a short life]. The 11th house indicate elder co-borns. 11th> > lord Saturn consumed 8 Navamsas out of which 2 afflicted by malefics> > indicating that there is a possibility of 6 elder co-borns and 2 lost> or> > non-surviving kids.> > Further there is many combinations present in the chart that indicate> > the absence of father at the time of child birth. For example, as per> > Mihira -> > 1) Lagna is not aspected by Moon; Sun is in 10-11-12; Sun is in> > movable sign - if these 3 conditions are met, then the child took> birth> > in the absence of father. This combination is true for this chart.> > 2) Sun is in quadruped sign, All other planets are strong, Lagna lord> > in duel sign - if these 3 conditions are ment, then there would be> > multiple births (especially two), covered with a special type of skin.> -> > This combination is also true for this chart.> >> > Further study of this chart may reveal many other factors as well.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "sreeram srinivas"> > sreeram64@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear members,> > >> > > Astro_Pointers to be verified :> > >> > > 1) The much covered Octopulets - The mind of the mother giving birth> > > for she seems be either an object of some medical research study> > >> > > 2) Or an mental case { she is otherwise normal, as per detailed> > > interviews conducted by media, without job, living on govt. money> > given> > > to jobless citizens...}> > >> > > 3) Illegal affairs...for father is Unknown....for she is a Single> > mother> > > to all her total 6 nos existing + 8 nos. new babies= Total 14 nos.> > >> > > 4) Assisted or medically supported fertility...> > >> > > Note : Penned few pointers that raged my mind at time of writing> this> > > ......> > >> > >> >> ------\> \> > \> > > ---------------> > >> > > Knowing that the link would NOT work beyond certain period, hence> > > reproducing the content from that URL : { most disgusting news to> hear> > & > > > read....}> > >> > > Bellflower is a city in Los Angeles County, California, United> States> > >> > > Latitude : 33‹53Œ17N> > >> > > Longitude : 118‹7Œ39W> > >> > > Note: The mother revealed that she has taken help of frozen embroys,> > > fertility treatment...etc., ...In total with these Octulets, she is> > > mother of l - 14 children. Of the existing 6 children, two of them> > > are twins, at the time of delivery these twins are aged 2 yrs., the> > > eldest of six children is aged 7 yrs. As per the internet verified> > > news from authoritative sources the ages of the existing 6 children> in> > > descending order - 7yrs, 6 yrs, 5 yrs, 3 yrs, & 2 yr old twins.> > >> > > Interestingly the father of the Octopulets is UNKNOWN.> > >> > > Octopulets - 6 boys + 2 girls.> > >> > > The mother was only child to her parents.> > >> > > Oh Baby! Mom Gives Birth To 8 Babies In 5 Minutes> > >> > > BELLFLOWER (CBS) \> > >> > >> > >> > > Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at> Kaiser> > > Permanente in Bellflower,> > >> > > said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing> well.> > >> > > Doctors say the next few days will be critical for eight babies born> > to> > > a mother at a hospital in Bellflower.> > >> > > All are listed in stable condition.> > >> > > Their birth marked the second time in history live octuplets have> been> > > born.> > >> > > "Today we had an unprecedented, very exciting day in our operating> > room> > > and labor delivery where our team of 46 physicians, nurses,> > respiratory> > > therapists as well as surgical techs delivered eight babies, all> live> > > born," Dr. Karen Maples said at the Kaiser Permanente hospital. "It> > was> > > a truly, truly amazing delivery. The babies are currently in stable> > > condition."> > >> > > Kaiser spokeswoman Mayra Suarez said the birth began at 10:43 a.m.,> > and> > > the babies range from 1 pound 8 ounces to 3 pounds 4 ounces.> > >> > > Doctors said two of the babies, who were delivered by Caesarian> > section,> > > have had breathing tubes inserted and were on ventilators, and a> third> > > needs some additional oxygen. But overall, the infants were crying> and> > > kicking and doing well.> > >> > > The mother was also doing well, doctors said. The mother has asked> to> > > remain anonymous and asked officials not to release detailed> > information> > > about her care -- including whether she had been taking fertility> > drugs.> > >> > > "The delivery process went very smoothly," Dr. Harold Henry said.> "We> > > practiced several dry runs and the actual delivery process only took> > > about five minutes to deliver all eight babies."> > >> > > Maples said the babies were delivered about nine weeks premature,> and> > > doctors were only anticipating seven of them.> > >> > > "In anticipation of seven babies, we made sure we were prepared by> > doing> > > some drills, some preliminary dry runs to make sure we had> everything> > in> > > place for these seven babies," Maples said. "But lo and behold,> after> > we> > > got to Baby G, which is what we expected, we were surprised by the> > > discovery of a Baby H, and that was the eighth baby that we> > delivered."> > >> > > Doctors said the first three to seven days are a critical time for> > such> > > a mass, premature birth, but said the prognosis looked good for all> of> > > them. They also said it was not unusual for doctors to have been> > > surprised by the eighth baby.> > >> > > "It is quite easy to miss a baby when you have seven," Henry said.> > "When> > > you're anticipating seven, it is extremely difficult to perform an> > > ultrasound."> > >> > > The first live-born octuplets, six girls and two boys, were born in> > > Houston in 1998. One of the girls died after a week.> > >> > > The Kaiser Permanente doctors said they were still getting over the> > > surprise of the octuplet birth.> > >> > > "It was a shock, especially with the eighth baby, my eyes were> > > definitely wide," Maples said. "... And this patient was incredibly> > > courageous, very strong, did all that we asked to ... have an> optimal> > > outcome for delivery. She was a marvelous patient."> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Namaste, Dear all, It is obviously it is a challenging event for astrology analysis, but i was thinking if numerology can give any help in this issue. I mean time of birth of all the babies is different. I am not into numerology but i am thinking it might help to bring some light. If any member more learned in numerology have any idea on this topic, please share. Thank you. Regards, Liana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 dear sreeenadh ji sure thanks ,another indication of animal births is absense of jup or weak jup in main signs or cnnected with lagna lords or lagan or in vargas too since jup is jeeva /dhi karaka his power and position in charts is imp for human births other wise it says it will b help in viyonies birth frm, animals to planets and trees etc . even jada tulya human births ( potato /veg type ) this is one indication as they r nothing better and for every thing they depnds on others . merc strong being airy can giv birds births in case jup is v v weak ,i never tested or even studied this principles to fullest and just repeating frm what guru's taught me . regrds sunil nair , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Thanks. There is one more pointer as well that may become useful> in several other situations too -> * Capricorn sign can indicate a dog or a pig - animals that can give> birth to multiple children in on go. So the presence of Lagna, Moon or> Sun in Capricorn can be a strong pointer towards multiple births.> In the given chart, both Sun and Moon are in Capricon. Further Sun> navamsaka is in another quadruped sign in lagna, and Moon's navamsaka is> in gemini (another house that can indicate multiple births).> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > dear sreenadh ji> >> > i appreciate u for this woderful analysis> >> >> >> > let me share a nadi dictum here for the benefit of grp> >> >> >> > most of the multiple births ,the connection between jup or merc ( more> > so merc also mer is airy and jup is expansiv planet too ( this may b> > one of the other reasons ) ,as they are owners for natual dual signs )> > with lagna/ lagna lord will b there by sambanth and role of dual> signs> > or moovable signs cannot excluded ( This is just one indication )> >> > even at times parents 5th house or lord also may b has one of this> > connection> >> >> >> > grp those willing can mov forward with this reserch> >> >> >> > regds sunil nair> >> >> > , "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Srinivas ji and all,> > > I am simple astrologer with no magic wand to explain everything at> > > hand, who depends on mainly Brihajjataka and some of the available> > > quotes of ancient rishi horas to decipher the results.> > > I am trying to look into this unique event from my simple and basic> > > understanding of astrology.> > > >> > 26-January-2009> > > >> > Time: between 10:43 a.m. to 10:48 a.m (8th baby out)> > > >> > Place: Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center> > > >> > Los Angeles, Ca. USA.> > > >>> Latitude : 33 E 53> > > >>> Longitude : 118 W 39> > >> > > Ayanamsa Used = Muladhara Ayanamsa of Surya Siddhanta (44 min more> > than> > > Lahari)> > > Year Length Used = 360 degree solar year.> > > Tool Used : JHora 7.02> > >> > > Lagna Star = Aswini.> > > First the BT is rectified by unsing Kunda sputa (to make the Kunada> > > sputa fall Mula, in the trine star of Aswini).> > > Rectified BT: 10.44 AM> > > The only other moment within the given time frame of 10.43 to 10.48,> > > that qualifies as per Kunda calculation is 10.48 AM. Since it was an> > > operation and not a natural birth, checking whether the given BT is> > > suitable for boy or girl birth etc are all useless here. It is> better> > to> > > think, that man modified the rhythm of nature with his own will. But> > if> > > something peculiar happens at some moment of time (here the> > > 'Octopulets') that definitely should get reflected in the chart of> > that> > > moment - and so I feel like searching this potential for> multiplicity> > > (Octopulets taking birth in that very window of time) in the chart> of> > > the said moment. And in doing so I would prefer to go by the> > > astrological moment that reflects destiny as per Kunda Lagna method> -> > > i.e. 10.44 AM.> > > I casted the chart for that moment and got the following result -> > >> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > >> > > Lagna 3 Ar 05' 37.31" Aswi 1 Ar Ar> > > Sun 12 Cp 14' 26.95" Srav 1 Cp Ar> > > Moon 17 Cp 13' 04.49" Srav 3 Cp Ge> > > Mars 28 Sg 26' 13.76" USha 1 Sg Sg> > > Mercury ® 29 Sg 09' 00.52" USha 1 Sg Sg> > > Jupiter - 10 Cp 15' 35.61" Srav 1 Cp Ar> > > Venus - 28 Aq 49' 10.87" PBha 3 Aq Ge> > > Saturn ® 26 Le 26' 23.65" PPha 4 Le Sc> > > Rahu 14 Cp 52' 37.94" Srav 2 Cp Ta> > > Ketu 14 Cn 52' 37.94" Push 4 Cn Sc> > > Maandi 0 Ge 57' 14.50" Mrig 3 Ge Li> > > Gulika 21 Ta 34' 06.54" Rohi 4 Ta Cn> > > Kunda 10 Sg 35' 21.85" Mool 4 Sg Cn> > >> > > Now with the chart at hand some where we should start. Let us start> > > with Lagna itself. I have the following base info and would like to> > > verify whether those simple basic rules applies this chart of> multiple> > > births.> > > 1) Own house indicate 2, Vargottama and exaltation 3, and more> vargas> > > in one place that many.> > > 2) For anything multiple - a connection with the duel signs and for> > > multiple births, a special connection with the Gemini sign I would> > > expect.> > > 3) There should a strong connection of Lagna or Lagna lord to all> > > this.> > > Does these basic conditions apply to the given chart? The answer is> > > yes!> > > 1) As per Parivritti rule (Harmonics) 1-9 Vargas of Lagna longitude> is> > > in that sign itself!! Indicating 8 or even 9!> > > 2) The lagna, Lagna lord Mars are both vargottama. The Lagna lord> Mars> > > is in duel sign, with Mercury (the lord of Gemini). Mercury is also> in> > > Vargottama! All factors indicating multiplicity.> > > 3) Lagna and Lagna lord both connected to Gemini, Duel sign,> multiple> > > harmonics of lagna etc.> > > 4) The 3rd house indicate coborns. From Aries the 3rd lord is> > > Mercury. Mercury consumed 8 full navamsa (Mercury is placed in the> 9th> > > navamsa of Sag) indicating 8 co-borns. [The 2nd, 4ht and 5th of them> > may> > > have only a short life]. The 11th house indicate elder co-borns.> 11th> > > lord Saturn consumed 8 Navamsas out of which 2 afflicted by malefics> > > indicating that there is a possibility of 6 elder co-borns and 2> lost> > or> > > non-surviving kids.> > > Further there is many combinations present in the chart that> indicate> > > the absence of father at the time of child birth. For example, as> per> > > Mihira -> > > 1) Lagna is not aspected by Moon; Sun is in 10-11-12; Sun is in> > > movable sign - if these 3 conditions are met, then the child took> > birth> > > in the absence of father. This combination is true for this chart.> > > 2) Sun is in quadruped sign, All other planets are strong, Lagna> lord> > > in duel sign - if these 3 conditions are ment, then there would be> > > multiple births (especially two), covered with a special type of> skin.> > -> > > This combination is also true for this chart.> > >> > > Further study of this chart may reveal many other factors as well.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "sreeram srinivas"> > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear members,> > > >> > > > Astro_Pointers to be verified :> > > >> > > > 1) The much covered Octopulets - The mind of the mother giving> birth> > > > for she seems be either an object of some medical research study> > > >> > > > 2) Or an mental case { she is otherwise normal, as per detailed> > > > interviews conducted by media, without job, living on govt. money> > > given> > > > to jobless citizens...}> > > >> > > > 3) Illegal affairs...for father is Unknown....for she is a Single> > > mother> > > > to all her total 6 nos existing + 8 nos. new babies= Total 14 nos.> > > >> > > > 4) Assisted or medically supported fertility...> > > >> > > > Note : Penned few pointers that raged my mind at time of writing> > this> > > > ......> > > >> > > >> > >> >> ------\> \> > \> > > \> > > > ---------------> > > >> > > > Knowing that the link would NOT work beyond certain period, hence> > > > reproducing the content from that URL : { most disgusting news to> > hear> > > & > > > > read....}> > > >> > > > Bellflower is a city in Los Angeles County, California, United> > States> > > >> > > > Latitude : 33‹53Œ17N> > > >> > > > Longitude : 118‹7Œ39W> > > >> > > > Note: The mother revealed that she has taken help of frozen> embroys,> > > > fertility treatment...etc., ...In total with these Octulets, she> is> > > > mother of l - 14 children. Of the existing 6 children, two of them> > > > are twins, at the time of delivery these twins are aged 2 yrs.,> the> > > > eldest of six children is aged 7 yrs. As per the internet verified> > > > news from authoritative sources the ages of the existing 6> children> > in> > > > descending order - 7yrs, 6 yrs, 5 yrs, 3 yrs, & 2 yr old twins.> > > >> > > > Interestingly the father of the Octopulets is UNKNOWN.> > > >> > > > Octopulets - 6 boys + 2 girls.> > > >> > > > The mother was only child to her parents.> > > >> > > > Oh Baby! Mom Gives Birth To 8 Babies In 5 Minutes> > > >> > > > BELLFLOWER (CBS) \> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at> > Kaiser> > > > Permanente in Bellflower,> > > >> > > > said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing> > well.> > > >> > > > Doctors say the next few days will be critical for eight babies> born> > > to> > > > a mother at a hospital in Bellflower.> > > >> > > > All are listed in stable condition.> > > >> > > > Their birth marked the second time in history live octuplets have> > been> > > > born.> > > >> > > > "Today we had an unprecedented, very exciting day in our operating> > > room> > > > and labor delivery where our team of 46 physicians, nurses,> > > respiratory> > > > therapists as well as surgical techs delivered eight babies, all> > live> > > > born," Dr. Karen Maples said at the Kaiser Permanente hospital.> "It> > > was> > > > a truly, truly amazing delivery. The babies are currently in> stable> > > > condition."> > > >> > > > Kaiser spokeswoman Mayra Suarez said the birth began at 10:43> a.m.,> > > and> > > > the babies range from 1 pound 8 ounces to 3 pounds 4 ounces.> > > >> > > > Doctors said two of the babies, who were delivered by Caesarian> > > section,> > > > have had breathing tubes inserted and were on ventilators, and a> > third> > > > needs some additional oxygen. But overall, the infants were crying> > and> > > > kicking and doing well.> > > >> > > > The mother was also doing well, doctors said. The mother has asked> > to> > > > remain anonymous and asked officials not to release detailed> > > information> > > > about her care -- including whether she had been taking fertility> > > drugs.> > > >> > > > "The delivery process went very smoothly," Dr. Harold Henry said.> > "We> > > > practiced several dry runs and the actual delivery process only> took> > > > about five minutes to deliver all eight babies."> > > >> > > > Maples said the babies were delivered about nine weeks premature,> > and> > > > doctors were only anticipating seven of them.> > > >> > > > "In anticipation of seven babies, we made sure we were prepared by> > > doing> > > > some drills, some preliminary dry runs to make sure we had> > everything> > > in> > > > place for these seven babies," Maples said. "But lo and behold,> > after> > > we> > > > got to Baby G, which is what we expected, we were surprised by the> > > > discovery of a Baby H, and that was the eighth baby that we> > > delivered."> > > >> > > > Doctors said the first three to seven days are a critical time for> > > such> > > > a mass, premature birth, but said the prognosis looked good for> all> > of> > > > them. They also said it was not unusual for doctors to have been> > > > surprised by the eighth baby.> > > >> > > > "It is quite easy to miss a baby when you have seven," Henry said.> > > "When> > > > you're anticipating seven, it is extremely difficult to perform an> > > > ultrasound."> > > >> > > > The first live-born octuplets, six girls and two boys, were born> in> > > > Houston in 1998. One of the girls died after a week.> > > >> > > > The Kaiser Permanente doctors said they were still getting over> the> > > > surprise of the octuplet birth.> > > >> > > > "It was a shock, especially with the eighth baby, my eyes were> > > > definitely wide," Maples said. "... And this patient was> incredibly> > > > courageous, very strong, did all that we asked to ... have an> > optimal> > > > outcome for delivery. She was a marvelous patient."> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Dear Sunil ji, Thanks for the info. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > dear sreeenadh ji > > sure thanks ,another indication of animal births is absense of jup or > weak jup in main signs or cnnected with lagna lords or lagan or in > vargas too > > > > since jup is jeeva /dhi karaka his power and position in charts is imp > for human births other wise it says it will b help in viyonies birth > frm, animals to planets and trees etc . even jada tulya human births ( > potato /veg type ) this is one indication as they r nothing better and > for every thing they depnds on others . > > merc strong being airy can giv birds births in case jup is v v weak ,i > never tested or even studied this principles to fullest and just > repeating frm what guru's taught me . > > regrds sunil nair > > , " Sreenadh " > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > Thanks. There is one more pointer as well that may become useful > > in several other situations too - > > * Capricorn sign can indicate a dog or a pig - animals that can give > > birth to multiple children in on go. So the presence of Lagna, Moon or > > Sun in Capricorn can be a strong pointer towards multiple births. > > In the given chart, both Sun and Moon are in Capricon. Further Sun > > navamsaka is in another quadruped sign in lagna, and Moon's navamsaka > is > > in gemini (another house that can indicate multiple births). > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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