Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dear Dubey ji,Mars exalts at 28 deg, venus at 27 deg and jup at 5 deg, and moon at 3 deg. What would we look for? Their weakness or exaltation? When do we see the avasthas?A vargottam planet is said to become becoming 'Uttam', when it gets the same sign in navamsh. It gets strength to reinforce the results of its significations and lordships. What about a 'weak' planet (say moon at 3 deg), exalted vargottam? or debilitated vargottam? or in inimical sign? friendly sign? Obviously the status of planet will be different in all the above cases and so will be the behaviour and traits of the native whose personality will be shaped by these planets and get reflected in the final outcome. E.g two people fight an election, one with an exalted vargottam moon and one with a debilitated vargottam moon, both have equal chances of winning depending upon the strength of the chart, but to win the elections, one with exalted moon will adopt satwik mode and be truthful and his good qualities will reflect, whereas one with debilitated moon will be boastful, bragging and is likely to adopt unfair means. Degrees at which planets are positioned have various manifestations and need a careful scrutiny. What if a lagna rises at 1 deg? Aren't planets close to that degree, likely to be stronger to give results. There are no walls in heavens and it is only how the planets interconnect with other by virtue of their positions and aspects, they're able to deliver. RegardsNeelam2009/2/7 Sunil Kumar Dubey <dube_sunil Hi friends, It is said all the planets become weaker near bhav sandhi. But what will be effect of Planet which get vargottama in last degree of rasi. Eg. Jupiter between 26 deg 40 min and 30 deg of Dhanu rasi where it becomes vargottam as it appears in same rasi in navamsa. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dear Dubey ji, //> It is said all the planets become weaker near bhav sandhi. This may not be completly true - a clarification is already provided by Chakraborty ji. With its too many vargas falling in one place a planet near Bhavasandhi (say 1-2 degree of Aries) can be very very strong and not weak. Instead of this weighing of strength as trying to 'measure' the 'amount/quantity' of result, it would be better and more useful if you approach it an different perspective. Results are qualitative and not measurable - so it is better to state the results itself than trying to state 'how much' good or howmuch bad; it is all relative. The current and more practical approach would be - * State the results for vargottama for that planet as stated in classics. * State the results for 'planet in rasi-sandhi', if the same applies. * Consider the avasta of the planet for that sign (remember the 10 planetary avastas), and state the result for the same. * Correlate the above results with the natural and basic results said for that planet in that sign and house (This is the basic results and all the above 3 are only modifications on top of the same) Hope this helps.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Sunil Kumar Dubey" <dube_sunil wrote:>> Hi friends,> It is said all the planets become weaker near bhav sandhi. But what> will be effect of Planet which get vargottama in last degree of rasi.> Eg. Jupiter between 26 deg 40 min and 30 deg of Dhanu rasi where it> becomes vargottam as it appears in same rasi in navamsa.> Thanks> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, That was a very informative mail with an excellent approach and correct understanding. Thanks for the same. But a small correction - Moon in 3rd degree in Taurus cannot be vargottama. If Moon is in 3rd degree of Taurus, then then Moon navamsaka would be Capricon and not Taurus - and thus there won't be any vargottama. For Moon in Taurus to be in Vargottama - Moon should be between 13-20 and 16-40 in Taurus sign. Since the whole sign is considered exalted, if Moon is between 13-20 and 16-40 in Taurus, then it is both exalted and is in vargottama. Love and regards,Sreenadh , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Dubey ji,> > Mars exalts at 28 deg, venus at 27 deg and jup at 5 deg, and moon at 3 deg.> What would we look for? Their weakness or exaltation? When do we see the> avasthas?> > A vargottam planet is said to become becoming 'Uttam', when it gets the same> sign in navamsh. It gets strength to reinforce the results of its> significations and lordships.> What about a 'weak' planet (say moon at 3 deg), exalted vargottam? or> debilitated vargottam? or in inimical sign? friendly sign?> > Obviously the status of planet will be different in all the above cases and> so will be the behaviour and traits of the native whose personality will be> shaped by these planets and get reflected in the final outcome. E.g two> people fight an election, one with an exalted vargottam moon and one with a> debilitated vargottam moon, both have equal chances of winning depending> upon the strength of the chart, but to win the elections, one with exalted> moon will adopt satwik mode and be truthful and his good qualities will> reflect, whereas one with debilitated moon will be boastful, bragging and is> likely to adopt unfair means.> > Degrees at which planets are positioned have various manifestations and need> a careful scrutiny. What if a lagna rises at 1 deg? Aren't planets close to> that degree, likely to be stronger to give results. There are no walls in> heavens and it is only how the planets interconnect with other by virtue of> their positions and aspects, they're able to deliver.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > 2009/2/7 Sunil Kumar Dubey dube_sunil > > Hi friends,> > It is said all the planets become weaker near bhav sandhi. But what> > will be effect of Planet which get vargottama in last degree of rasi.> > Eg. Jupiter between 26 deg 40 min and 30 deg of Dhanu rasi where it> > becomes vargottam as it appears in same rasi in navamsa.> > Thanks> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji,Thanks for correction. Yes, that was an oversight. Just said it by way of example.Infact, it will be interesting to note that venus and saturn are the only two planets which have this peculiar relationship in navamsha. Venus when exalted (at the point of exaltation) in rashi, is also exalted in navamsh and saptamsh. Saturn when exalted in rashi gets debilitated in navamsh and dashmansh.RegardsNeelam 2009/2/7 Sreenadh <sreesog Dear Neelam ji, That was a very informative mail with an excellent approach and correct understanding. Thanks for the same. But a small correction - Moon in 3rd degree in Taurus cannot be vargottama. If Moon is in 3rd degree of Taurus, then then Moon navamsaka would be Capricon and not Taurus - and thus there won't be any vargottama. For Moon in Taurus to be in Vargottama - Moon should be between 13-20 and 16-40 in Taurus sign. Since the whole sign is considered exalted, if Moon is between 13-20 and 16-40 in Taurus, then it is both exalted and is in vargottama. Love and regards,Sreenadh , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: >> Dear Dubey ji,> > Mars exalts at 28 deg, venus at 27 deg and jup at 5 deg, and moon at 3 deg.> What would we look for? Their weakness or exaltation? When do we see the> avasthas? > > A vargottam planet is said to become becoming 'Uttam', when it gets the same> sign in navamsh. It gets strength to reinforce the results of its> significations and lordships.> What about a 'weak' planet (say moon at 3 deg), exalted vargottam? or > debilitated vargottam? or in inimical sign? friendly sign?> > Obviously the status of planet will be different in all the above cases and> so will be the behaviour and traits of the native whose personality will be > shaped by these planets and get reflected in the final outcome. E.g two> people fight an election, one with an exalted vargottam moon and one with a> debilitated vargottam moon, both have equal chances of winning depending > upon the strength of the chart, but to win the elections, one with exalted> moon will adopt satwik mode and be truthful and his good qualities will> reflect, whereas one with debilitated moon will be boastful, bragging and is > likely to adopt unfair means.> > Degrees at which planets are positioned have various manifestations and need> a careful scrutiny. What if a lagna rises at 1 deg? Aren't planets close to> that degree, likely to be stronger to give results. There are no walls in > heavens and it is only how the planets interconnect with other by virtue of> their positions and aspects, they're able to deliver.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > 2009/2/7 Sunil Kumar Dubey dube_sunil > > Hi friends,> > It is said all the planets become weaker near bhav sandhi. But what> > will be effect of Planet which get vargottama in last degree of rasi. > > Eg. Jupiter between 26 deg 40 min and 30 deg of Dhanu rasi where it> > becomes vargottam as it appears in same rasi in navamsa.> > Thanks> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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