Guest guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Dear Friends, Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house alongwith the 6th Lord. Now here can someone clarify - 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord ? 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,With my little understanding, let me try to answer this one. Other learned members may share their views.//Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house alongwith the 6th Lord.//Its not one VRY, but two VRYs in 6H as per Phaladeepika which states 3 types of VRYs as below: Vipreet Harsh Raj Yoga: 6th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house (Phala Deepika 6/63): This is supposed to confer happiness, health and fame. The person will conquer his/her enemies and will hesitate in indulging in sinful deeds. Friends will be illustrious and with class. Vipreet Saral Raj Yoga: The 8th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house (Phala Deepika 6/65): This confers learning, longevity and prosperity. The person will be successful in all ventures, conqueror of foes and a great celebrity. Vipreet Vimal Raj Yoga: The 12th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house (Phala Deepika 6/69): This makes the person virtuous and contented. The person will be equipped with good behaviour towards others, will enjoy happiness, will be independent, following a respectable profession or conduct, and will be known for good qualities. So you have both Harsh and Saral VRYs there. One will get the effects given above, of course, when other general positive conditions also prevail in the chart. And the yogas give result under vipreet conditions and fructify at a cost. e.g if 8L Saturn, who is also the 9L is in 8H with 6L mars who is also 11L. The person might gain an inheritance when father passes away.//Which planet causes the Rajyog here? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord?//Obviously in this case, both the planets are causing the VRY. //When will this Vipreeta Rajyog fructify?//The yoga is likely to fructify in the period and sub period of the stronger of the two. e.g in the above case, if mars is stronger, only then he's likely to kill father. Saturn himself as 9L might not kill. One has to see the other houses to check what these planets can give as a rajyog. //The planet which qualifies for the Vipreet Rajyog to fructify, can it fructify as an antardasha Lord? And if so, then does it need a particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadasha Lord do?// It will fructify mostly as antar lord but if the VRY causing planet qualifies for as a good dasha lord even though in dusthana, the rajyoga effects will prevail and heightened during the connected antars. The actual qualitative and quantitative judgment is critical and depends on sevaral factors, just like for other raj yogas and yogas. Hope to hear from others.RegardsNeelam 2009/2/19 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Friends, Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house alongwith the 6th Lord. Now here can someone clarify - 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord ? 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, Thanks for the reply. I will comment after receiving further responses , if they come. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > With my little understanding, let me try to answer this one. Learned > members may share their views. > > //Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house alongwith > the 6th Lord.// > > Its *not one VRY, but two VRYs in 6H* as per Phaladeepika which states 3 > types of VRYs as below: > > *Vipreet Harsh Raj Yoga: *6th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house (Phala > Deepika 6/63): This is supposed to confer happiness, health and fame. The > person will conquer his/her enemies and will hesitate in indulging in sinful > deeds. Friends will be illustrious and with class. > > *Vipreet Saral Raj Yoga:* The 8th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house > (Phala Deepika 6/65): This confers learning, longevity and prosperity. The > person will be successful in all ventures, conqueror of foes and a great > celebrity. > > *Vipreet Vimal Raj Yoga:* The 12th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house > (Phala Deepika 6/69): This makes the person virtuous and contented. The > person will be equipped with good behaviour towards others, will enjoy > happiness, will be independent, following a respectable profession or > conduct, and will be known for good qualities. > > So you have both Harsh and Saral VRYs there. One will get the effects given > above, of course, when other general positive conditions also prevail in the > chart. And the yogas give result under vipreet conditions and fructify at a > cost. e.g if 8L Saturn, who is also the 9L is in 8H with 6L mars who is also > 11L. The person might gain an inheritance when father passes away. > > //Which planet causes the Rajyog here? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord?// > Obviously in this case, both the planets are causing the VRY. > > //When will this Vipreeta Rajyog fructify?// > The yoga is likely to fructify in the period and sub period of the stronger > of the two. e.g in the above case, if mars is stronger, only then he's > likely to kill father. Saturn himself as 9L might not kill. One has to see > the other houses to check what these planets can give as a rajyog. > > //The planet which qualifies for the Vipreet Rajyog to fructify, can it > fructify as an antardasha Lord? And if so, then does it need a particular > Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadasha Lord do?// > It will fructify mostly as antar lord but if the VRY causing planet > qualifies for as a good dasha lord even though in dusthana, the rajyoga > effects will prevail and heightened during the connected antars. The actual > qualitative and quantitative judgment is critical and depends on sevaral > factors, just like for other raj yogas and yogas. > > Hope to hear from others. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2009/2/19 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord > > ? > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji, Only if time permists..I have a request. When you explain and educate us on the below, please do consider : 6L in the 8H too Thanks Souvik , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > Thanks for the reply. I will comment after receiving further responses , > if they come. > > regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > With my little understanding, let me try to answer this one. Learned > > members may share their views. > > > > //Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > alongwith > > the 6th Lord.// > > > > Its *not one VRY, but two VRYs in 6H* as per Phaladeepika which states > 3 > > types of VRYs as below: > > > > *Vipreet Harsh Raj Yoga: *6th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house > (Phala > > Deepika 6/63): This is supposed to confer happiness, health and fame. > The > > person will conquer his/her enemies and will hesitate in indulging in > sinful > > deeds. Friends will be illustrious and with class. > > > > *Vipreet Saral Raj Yoga:* The 8th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th > house > > (Phala Deepika 6/65): This confers learning, longevity and prosperity. > The > > person will be successful in all ventures, conqueror of foes and a > great > > celebrity. > > > > *Vipreet Vimal Raj Yoga:* The 12th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th > house > > (Phala Deepika 6/69): This makes the person virtuous and contented. > The > > person will be equipped with good behaviour towards others, will enjoy > > happiness, will be independent, following a respectable profession or > > conduct, and will be known for good qualities. > > > > So you have both Harsh and Saral VRYs there. One will get the effects > given > > above, of course, when other general positive conditions also prevail > in the > > chart. And the yogas give result under vipreet conditions and fructify > at a > > cost. e.g if 8L Saturn, who is also the 9L is in 8H with 6L mars who > is also > > 11L. The person might gain an inheritance when father passes away. > > > > //Which planet causes the Rajyog here? The 8th lord, or the 6th > lord?// > > Obviously in this case, both the planets are causing the VRY. > > > > //When will this Vipreeta Rajyog fructify?// > > The yoga is likely to fructify in the period and sub period of the > stronger > > of the two. e.g in the above case, if mars is stronger, only then he's > > likely to kill father. Saturn himself as 9L might not kill. One has to > see > > the other houses to check what these planets can give as a rajyog. > > > > //The planet which qualifies for the Vipreet Rajyog to fructify, can > it > > fructify as an antardasha Lord? And if so, then does it need a > particular > > Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadasha Lord do?// > > It will fructify mostly as antar lord but if the VRY causing planet > > qualifies for as a good dasha lord even though in dusthana, the > rajyoga > > effects will prevail and heightened during the connected antars. The > actual > > qualitative and quantitative judgment is critical and depends on > sevaral > > factors, just like for other raj yogas and yogas. > > > > Hope to hear from others. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > 2009/2/19 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th > lord > > > ? > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, > can > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Pranams,Dear Jyotishis,The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details about "Vipareeta Raja yoga"[i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it !Thanks in advance for all your advices.--- On Thu, 19/2/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? Date: Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 5:14 PM Dear Friends, Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house alongwith the 6th Lord. Now here can someone clarify - 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord ? 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? regards/Bhaskar. New Email addresses available on Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Sirs, // The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life // Where is the reference to this in the texts and by which Rishi ? regards/Bhaskar. , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> Dear Jyotishis,> > The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details about "Vipareeta Raja yoga"[i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it !> > Thanks in advance for all your advices.> > --- On Thu, 19/2/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Vipareeta Raj Yoga ?> > Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 5:14 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house> > alongwith the 6th Lord.> > > > Now here can someone clarify -> > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord> > ?> > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ?> > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can> > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a> > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does!> http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, While I always recognise your great insight, you had given a challenging assignment. I am trying to present my paper before you: Vipareeta Raja Yoga: According to ‘Phaladeepika’ Sloka 70 of addyaya IV:, this ‘yoga’, formed when the 6th 8th and/ or 12th house RULERS are situated in the 6th, 8th, or 12 th House, brings posperity and leadership than adversity. This is to be noted that Mantreswara endorses in ‘Phaladeepika’, and there is no mension of it in Parasara’s “Hora Sastra†other than as an obstacle - ridden Arishta Yoga. Even in ‘Phaladeepika’, This is included as second half of sloka referred, as reversal of Duryoga.:: Chiedraarivyayanaayakaa : PrabhalaGoh:kedhranthrikonaashrithaa : LagnavyoomachathurthaaBhagyapathaya : ShatranthrariPh:asthithaa: Nirveeryaavighathaprabhaa yadhi thadha Duryogha eyeva smrutha- Sthadhoovyaste sathi yoghavanndhanapathirbhoopa: Sukee Dharmeeka: ||70|| When the lords of the 6th, 8th and 12th houses, are strong enough to occupy angular or trinal Houses and the lords of the 1st 10th, 4th, and 9th houses are weak or eclipsed and are placed in the 6th, 8th and the 12th houses, the resut is DURYOGA. But, when this position is reversed, i.e., the Lords of 8th, 6th and the 12th being weak and eclipsed, own those houses, and the lords of 1st, 10th 4th and 9th houses, being strong occupy the Angular or Trinal houses, the native will be no less than king, fortunate, happy and virtuously disposed. In “Sounaka Hora†the sloka relates to 6th and 8th house, which means: The 6th and the 8th bhavas are considered bad, because one is setting and the other has already set. (Bad Planets in those Bhavas are better there than good ones :cf: ‘Vipareetham rihppha Shashtashtameeshu - Brihat Jathaka XX - 10) Opposition of benefics to the Moon in these two places only hastens death. ---- Other than these there is no specific details in Sounaka Hora also. The best we have, as said above, to point the details on ‘Veepareetha Raja Yoga’ is available in ‘Phala deepika’ as above, termed and listed as ‘Neecha Banga Raja Yoga’. Pathi A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 27514, USA001-919-960-3833 Please contact me in ID kountinya29) All private readings are chargeable. Disclaimer A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:22:32 PM Re: Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? Dear Sirs, // The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life // Where is the reference to this in the texts and by which Rishi ? regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> Dear Jyotishis,> > The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details about "Vipareeta Raja yoga"[i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it !> > Thanks in advance for all your advices.> > --- On Thu, 19/2/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Vipareeta Raj Yoga ?> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 5:14 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house> > alongwith the 6th Lord.> > > > Now here can someone clarify -> > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord> > ?> > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ?> > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can> > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a> > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does!> http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Sirs, // The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details about "Vipareeta Raja yoga"[i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it ! // We shall convert your observation in two parts now, with half latter part on the upper side and the former part on the lower side, to address the query and the answer, in the query itself. // Please render understandable details about "Vipareeta Raja yoga"[i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it ! // Almost all the astrologers know about Vipareeta Raj Yoga , how it is caused and what are its effects, which is given in the name itself "RajYoga". So definitely the refrence must be there in many texts if all astrologers know and believe in this. Why must the doubt come in the mind abouit asking for a reference ? // The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life. // This means that You already know about this Yoga, and have already read about it in some text ? isnt it ? Then whats the doubt please ? What understandable details you wish anyone to render, is ununderstandable with this Vipareeta talk in the same post. regards. bhaskar. , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> Dear Jyotishis,> > The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details about "Vipareeta Raja yoga"[i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it !> > Thanks in advance for all your advices.> > --- On Thu, 19/2/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Vipareeta Raj Yoga ?> > Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 5:14 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house> > alongwith the 6th Lord.> > > > Now here can someone clarify -> > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord> > ?> > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ?> > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can> > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a> > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ?> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does!> http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the common population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th with 6L. June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both saturn and jupiter mahadasha. I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as required. Regards, bhagavathi , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > Now here can someone clarify - > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord > ? > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhagavatiji, In anyways, is this person related to Mars Dominated profession?? Thank you, Gaurav. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the common > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th with > 6L. > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both saturn > and jupiter mahadasha. > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > required. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th > lord > > ? > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > fructify, can > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Gaurav, That is something interesting. He could have been but he did not. He got two offers- one in a foreign bank and one in the Navy, he wanted to go for Navy because he felt that Bank is for ladies. But his father advised him to go to the bank considering his future career prospects. Yes, Navy coud have been a mars-related profession but something has prevented him from going there. Regards, bhagavathi , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Bhagavatiji, > In anyways, is this person related to Mars Dominated profession?? > Thank you, > Gaurav. > > > , > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the common > > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th with > > 6L. > > > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both saturn > > and jupiter mahadasha. > > > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > > required. > > > > Regards, > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th > > lord > > > ? > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > > fructify, can > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Pathiji, As usual you come up with a piece of hard work at your age is something which I appreciate much. The VRY is a much talked about phenemonon , but not understood properly and practically, hence I was looking for the answers from esteemed people like you. In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in this area. Thanks very much for this note , I will keep it saved in my records. regards/Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > While I always recognise your great insight, you had given a challenging assignment.  I am trying to present my paper before you: > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga: > According to ‘Phaladeepika’ Sloka 70 of addyaya IV:, this ‘yoga’, formed when the 6th 8th and/ or 12th house RULERS are situated in the 6th, 8th, or 12 th House, brings posperity and leadership than adversity. > This is to be noted that Mantreswara endorses in ‘Phaladeepika’, and there is no mension of it in Parasara’s “Hora Sastra†other than as an obstacle - ridden Arishta Yoga. >  > Even in ‘Phaladeepika’, This is included as second half of sloka referred, as reversal of Duryoga.:: >  > Chiedraarivyayanaayakaa : PrabhalaGoh:kedhranthrikonaashrithaa : > LagnavyoomachathurthaaBhagyapathaya : ShatranthrariPh:asthithaa: >  > Nirveeryaavighathaprabhaa yadhi thadha Duryogha eyeva smrutha- > Sthadhoovyaste sathi yoghavanndhanapathirbhoopa: Sukee Dharmeeka: ||70|| >  > When the lords of the 6th, 8th and 12th houses, are strong enough to occupy angular or trinal Houses and the lords of the 1st 10th, 4th, and 9th houses are weak or eclipsed and are placed in the 6th, 8th and the 12th houses, the resut is DURYOGA.But, when this position is reversed, i.e., the Lords of 8th, 6th and the 12th being weak and eclipsed, own those houses, and the lords of 1st, 10th 4th and 9th houses, being strong occupy the Angular or Trinal houses, the native will be no less than king, fortunate, happy and virtuously disposed. >  > In “Sounaka Hora†the sloka relates to 6th and 8th house, which means: > The 6th and the 8th bhavas are considered bad, because one is setting and the other has already set. >  > (Bad Planets in those Bhavas are better there than good ones :cf: ‘Vipareetham rihppha Shashtashtameeshu - Brihat Jathaka XX - 10) > Opposition of benefics to the Moon in these two places only hastens death. ---- Other than these there is no specific details in Sounaka Hora also. > The best we have, as said above, to point the details on ‘Veepareetha Raja Yoga’ is available in ‘Phala deepika’ as above, termed and listed as ‘Neecha Banga Raja Yoga’. >  > Pathi >  > A.V.Pathi,  > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,                                    > North Carolina, 27514, USA > 001-919-960-3833 > Please contact me in ID kountinya29)All private readings are chargeable.Disclaimer > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer. >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Friday, February 20, 2009 12:22:32 PM > Re: Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? > > > Dear Sirs, > // The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life // > Where is the reference to this in the texts and by which Rishi ? > regards/Bhaskar. >  > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote: > > > > Pranams, > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details about " Vipareeta Raja yoga " [i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it ! > > > > Thanks in advance for all your advices. > > > > --- On Thu, 19/2/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 5:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord > > > > ? > > > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can > > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > > Hurry before someone else does! > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Bhagavathi ji, I used these co-ordinates 008 N 43 and 077 E 44 I am getting Leo Lagna, with Jupiter as 8th Lord, but in 5th House. and Ascendant at Leo 6.28 degrees Please let me know where I have faltered. regards, Bhaskar. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the common > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th with > 6L. > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both saturn > and jupiter mahadasha. > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > required. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th > lord > > ? > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > fructify, can > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,I am also getting Leo lagna, 6.28 degrees, with 5/8L jup and 6/7L sat in 5H.I'd request Bhagavati ji to clarify if there is a mistake somewhere, as there is no VRY in this case.Regards Neelam2009/2/21 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Bhagavathi ji, I used these co-ordinates 008 N 43 and 077 E 44 I am getting Leo Lagna, with Jupiter as 8th Lord, but in 5th House. and Ascendant at Leo 6.28 degrees Please let me know where I have faltered. regards, Bhaskar. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the common > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th with > 6L. > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both saturn > and jupiter mahadasha. > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > required. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th > lord > > ? > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > fructify, can > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 dear Mrs. Bhagavathi hariharan,the time of the native must be between 8.45am to 9.45am. otherwise the lagna goes to simham and jup and sat falls in the fifth house from lagna.I have 8th and 12th(merc and venus) lord in 8th house. though the dasas are yet to come,I am currently running saturn mahadasa. I am 60 yrs old so even when the above saiddasa start operating it may not be of much beneficial to me.good wishes,k.gopu--- On Sat, 2/21/09, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan Re: Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:27 AM Dear Bhaskarji, What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the common population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th with 6L. June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both saturn and jupiter mahadasha. I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as required. Regards, bhagavathi ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > Now here can someone clarify - > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord > ? > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 dear sri bhaskar,,Ur guru antara dasa must give u returns without much of strain fromur end. If it happens then VRY is operational. 6th is service and 8th is thoughlongevity etc but yet it is 2nd from 7th ie ur buisness, so income generationmust be more without much of efforts from ur end.this is my humble observation.good luck,k.gopu--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 9:50 AM Dear Pathiji, As usual you come up with a piece of hard work at your age is something which I appreciate much. The VRY is a much talked about phenemonon , but not understood properly and practically, hence I was looking for the answers from esteemed people like you. In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in this area. Thanks very much for this note , I will keep it saved in my records. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > While I always recognise your great insight, you had given a challenging assignment.  I am trying to present my paper before you: > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga: > According to ‘Phaladeepika’ Sloka 70 of addyaya IV:, this ‘yoga’, formed when the 6th 8th and/ or 12th house RULERS are situated in the 6th, 8th, or 12 th House, brings posperity and leadership than adversity. > This is to be noted that Mantreswara endorses in ‘Phaladeepika’, and there is no mension of it in Parasara’s “Hora Sastra� other than as an obstacle - ridden Arishta Yoga. >  > Even in ‘Phaladeepika’, This is included as second half of sloka referred, as reversal of Duryoga.:: >  > Chiedraarivyayanaay akaa : PrabhalaGoh: kedhranthrikonaa shrithaa : > Lagnavyoomachathurt haaBhagyapathaya : ShatranthrariPh: asthithaa: >  > Nirveeryaavighathap rabhaa yadhi thadha Duryogha eyeva smrutha- > Sthadhoovyaste sathi yoghavanndhanapathi rbhoopa: Sukee Dharmeeka: ||70|| >  > When the lords of the 6th, 8th and 12th houses, are strong enough to occupy angular or trinal Houses and the lords of the 1st 10th, 4th, and 9th houses are weak or eclipsed and are placed in the 6th, 8th and the 12th houses, the resut is DURYOGA.But, when this position is reversed, i.e., the Lords of 8th, 6th and the 12th being weak and eclipsed, own those houses, and the lords of 1st, 10th 4th and 9th houses, being strong occupy the Angular or Trinal houses, the native will be no less than king, fortunate, happy and virtuously disposed. >  > In “Sounaka Hora� the sloka relates to 6th and 8th house, which means: > The 6th and the 8th bhavas are considered bad, because one is setting and the other has already set. >  > (Bad Planets in those Bhavas are better there than good ones :cf: ‘Vipareetham rihppha Shashtashtameeshu - Brihat Jathaka XX - 10) > Opposition of benefics to the Moon in these two places only hastens death. ---- Other than these there is no specific details in Sounaka Hora also. > The best we have, as said above, to point the details on ‘Veepareetha Raja Yoga’ is available in ‘Phala deepika’ as above, termed and listed as ‘Neecha Banga Raja Yoga’. >  > Pathi >  > A.V.Pathi,  > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,                                    > North Carolina, 27514, USA > 001-919-960- 3833 > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are chargeable.Disclaim er > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer. >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Friday, February 20, 2009 12:22:32 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? > > > Dear Sirs, > // The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life // > Where is the reference to this in the texts and by which Rishi ? > regards/Bhaskar. >  > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote: > > > > Pranams, > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details about "Vipareeta Raja yoga"[i find no references in scriptures] as to where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it ! > > > > Thanks in advance for all your advices. > > > > --- On Thu, 19/2/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 5:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord > > > > ? > > > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can > > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > > Hurry before someone else does! > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Shri Gopuji, // 6th is service and 8th is though > longevity etc but yet it is 2nd from 7th ie ur buisness, so income generation > must be more without much of efforts from ur end // There you got it. When I read your mail, it struck my mind, yes the 6th is the house of returns, and the 8th shows unearned income, which gives us the logic for VRY to persist . This struck like a light bulb Dear Gopuji, instantaneosuly, as to why the 8th in 6th with the 6th lord constitutes a very good VRY and the exact logic why the native is to gain from it. Thanks. I read your other mail in the morning. if you can send me your birth details on my personal id,or here, I can have a look and offer you my small comments on the 8th lord part in Your case. best wishes, Bhaskar. , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear sri bhaskar,, > Ur guru antara dasa must give u returns without much of strain from > ur end. If it happens then VRY is operational. 6th is service and 8th is though > longevity etc but yet it is 2nd from 7th ie ur buisness, so income generation > must be more without much of efforts from ur end. > this is my humble observation. > > good luck, > k.gopu > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? > > Saturday, February 21, 2009, 9:50 AM > > > > > > > > Dear Pathiji, > > > > As usual you come up with a piece of hard work at your age is something > > which I appreciate much. > > > > The VRY is a much talked about phenemonon , but not understood properly > > and practically, hence I was looking for the answers from esteemed > > people like you. > > > > In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is > > the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in this > > area. > > > > Thanks very much for this note , I will keep it saved in my records. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi > > pathiav@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > While I always recognise your great insight, you had given a > > challenging assignment.  I am trying to present my paper before > > you: > > > > > > Vipareeta Raja Yoga: > > > According to ‘Phaladeepika’ Sloka 70 of addyaya IV:, > > this ‘yoga’, formed when the 6th 8th and/ or 12th house > > RULERS are situated in the 6th, 8th, or 12 th House, brings posperity > > and leadership than adversity. > > > This is to be noted that Mantreswara endorses in > > ‘Phaladeepika’, and there is no mension of it in > > Parasara’s  " Hora Sastraâ€� other than as an obstacle > > - ridden Arishta Yoga. > > >  > > > Even in ‘Phaladeepika’, This is included as second half > > of sloka referred, as reversal of Duryoga.:: > > >  > > > Chiedraarivyayanaay akaa : PrabhalaGoh: kedhranthrikonaa shrithaa : > > > Lagnavyoomachathurt haaBhagyapathaya : ShatranthrariPh: asthithaa: > > >  > > > Nirveeryaavighathap rabhaa yadhi thadha Duryogha eyeva smrutha- > > > Sthadhoovyaste sathi yoghavanndhanapathi rbhoopa: Sukee Dharmeeka: > > ||70|| > > >  > > > When the lords of the 6th, 8th and 12th houses, are strong enough to > > occupy angular or trinal Houses and the lords of the 1st 10th, 4th, and > > 9th houses are weak or eclipsed and are placed in the 6th, 8th and the > > 12th houses, the resut is DURYOGA.But, when this position is reversed, > > i.e., the Lords of 8th, 6th and the 12th being weak and eclipsed, own > > those houses, and the lords of 1st, 10th 4th and 9th houses, being > > strong occupy the Angular or Trinal houses, the native will be no less > > than king, fortunate, happy and virtuously disposed. > > >  > > > In  " Sounaka Horaâ€� the sloka relates to 6th and 8th > > house, which means: > > > The 6th and the 8th bhavas are considered bad, because one is setting > > and the other has already set. > > >  > > > (Bad Planets in those Bhavas are better there than good ones :cf: > > ‘Vipareetham rihppha Shashtashtameeshu - Brihat Jathaka XX - 10) > > > Opposition of benefics to the Moon in these two places only hastens > > death. ---- Other than these there is no specific details in Sounaka > > Hora also. > > > The best we have, as said above, to point the details on > > ‘Veepareetha Raja Yoga’ is available in ‘Phala > > deepika’ as above, termed and listed as ‘Neecha Banga Raja > > Yoga’. > > >  > > > Pathi > > >  > > > A.V.Pathi,  > > > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,       > >               > >               > >  > > > North Carolina, 27514, USA > > > 001-919-960- 3833 > > > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are > > chargeable.Disclaim er > > > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that > > no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you > > receive from us is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, > > program, or treatment that you would normally receive from a licensed > > professional such as a lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, or financial > > advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend remedies. A.V.Pathi provides > > no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will > > not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the recipient > > of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he can > > only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve > > the life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Friday, February 20, 2009 12:22:32 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > // The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some > > diabolic influences in ones life // > > > Where is the reference to this in the texts and by which Rishi ? > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > >  > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma > > abhanaya@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Pranams, > > > > Dear Jyotishis, > > > > > > > > The literal meaning of the yoga suggests of producing some > > diabolic influences in ones life.Please render understandable details > > about " Vipareeta Raja yoga " [i find no references in scriptures] as to > > where and which Puraadhina Rushi advocated it ! > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for all your advices. > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 19/2/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Vipareeta Raj Yoga ? > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 5:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > > > > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th > > lord > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, > > can > > > > > > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > > > > > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and > > @rocketmail. > > > > Hurry before someone else does! > > > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji, //In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in this area.// My below comments are with bit of Jealous, b'coz or Are you asking for Free reading??:-)) But not to Disrespect to you... I had lot of bashing from you and Sri Sunil Nair Ji here and in Mrs. Windy's (JV) forum for asking too many questions Again and Again on my chart....after some argument(s), then i took all those bashings as Blessings for Me:-) (Litterly) Now just to tell you that all those question were/are for understanding my chart only for myself.(like how you are asking now i presume) As No astrologers (whom i consulted) were unable to give any proper guidance- read as Astrological pointers, nor whatever they told (Predictions)were in line with the practical happenigs, at least 60% if not 100%. Still it is strange and unable to understand myself... in my chart What exactly the Role of Saturn and Jupiter?? On a practical lavel, in Career and professional front when trasit Saturn moved in leo which is my 8H from Moon and 5H from Lagna, i had and still having good growth..Now Jup is in deblity career is stabalized i believe ofcourse professional challenges and work pressure are there..But when trasit Saturn was in 7H from Moon and trasit Jup was in 12H and 11H respectively for those 2 yrs back..i had lot of career instability tension etc... Can you help me in understaning my chart? especially the role of Saturn and Jupiter? by giving your invaluable inputs? DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund with regards and respect Chandu2Chill , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in this area. Thanks very much for this note , I will keep it saved in my records. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhagavatiji, Now what do I call it?Free-will???(Perhaps no...) I should sense Jupiter then, aspecting from both 4th house(as it is in the initial degrees & is retro!!) Jupiter dasa started when this native was only 2 yrs old & continue till he was 18. The Initial period may have been uneasy--specially health & not so pleasing for a " near & dear one " . He may have had troubles in studies, & may have suffered the most overall, during 1969-1970.Pls confirm all these, I see someone closer have had passed away during the Ju dasa. If I am correct " anywhere " I can proceed towards the Saturn Mahadasa, when he already crossed & was heading towards the professional life, which has been good, but loss of a " guardian " , may be!!! Thank you, Gaurav. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > That is something interesting. He could have been but he did not. He > got two offers- one in a foreign bank and one in the Navy, he wanted > to go for Navy because he felt that Bank is for ladies. But his > father advised him to go to the bank considering his future career > prospects. Yes, Navy coud have been a mars-related profession but > something has prevented him from going there. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Bhagavatiji, > > In anyways, is this person related to Mars Dominated profession?? > > Thank you, > > Gaurav. > > > > > > , > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the > common > > > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > > > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th > with > > > 6L. > > > > > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > > > > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both > saturn > > > and jupiter mahadasha. > > > > > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > > > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > > > required. > > > > > > Regards, > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the > 6th > > > lord > > > > ? > > > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > > > fructify, can > > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it > need a > > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Neelamji, Bhaskarji , Gopuji and all, Yes mistake is on my side. I apologize. The BT is 10.04AM, not 10.45AM. Regards, bhagavathi , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Bhagavathi ji, > > I used these co-ordinates > > 008 N 43 and 077 E 44 > > I am getting Leo Lagna, with Jupiter as 8th Lord, but in 5th House. and > Ascendant at Leo 6.28 degrees > > Please let me know where I have faltered. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. --- In , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the common > > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th with > > 6L. > > > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both saturn > > and jupiter mahadasha. > > > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > > required. > > > > Regards, > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th > > lord > > > ? > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > > fructify, can > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhagavatiji, Ohh....that means I was working on a wrong chart till now??? ... Gaurav. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Neelamji, Bhaskarji , Gopuji and all, > > Yes mistake is on my side. I apologize. The BT is 10.04AM, not > 10.45AM. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhagavathi ji, > > > > I used these co-ordinates > > > > 008 N 43 and 077 E 44 > > > > I am getting Leo Lagna, with Jupiter as 8th Lord, but in 5th House. > and > > Ascendant at Leo 6.28 degrees > > > > Please let me know where I have faltered. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the > common > > > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > > > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th > with > > > 6L. > > > > > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > > > > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both > saturn > > > and jupiter mahadasha. > > > > > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > > > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > > > required. > > > > > > Regards, > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the > 6th > > > lord > > > > ? > > > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > > > fructify, can > > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it > need a > > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Mr.Chandu 2 Chill ji, I am not among those who ask for free readings. I dont even accept a free cup of tea at somebodys place and do it most reluctantly if I have to, so it would be difficult for you to understand men like me, because you wont meet many of my kind these days . When I do ask, I ask without apprehensions, and people do it with love. I am also grateful to those who reply me. Your case is different. You have been doing this asking continously for last 2 years and have taken thousands of views on your chart from hundreds of astrologers. So theres a vast difference between your asking and my asking. And whenever I ask, there is always the tendency to use my chart as a sample-chart and lead it to some meaningful conclusion which will bring out the astrological principles for better study, more clearly to the rest of the members. But this will be difficult for you to understand till you ever reach this stage of learning, that there are people who use their own bodies for surgery to explain to their fraternity what happens when one uses a particular medicine or system of treatment. I dont have knowledge to comment on Your chart. I have already done that in the past several times. And nowadays stopped giving more than a single free reply. regards, Bhaskar. , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji,> > //In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is> the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in > this area.//> > My below comments are with bit of Jealous, b'coz or Are you asking for > Free reading??:-)) But not to Disrespect to you...> > I had lot of bashing from you and Sri Sunil Nair Ji here and in Mrs. > Windy's (JV) forum for asking too many questions Again and Again on my > chart....after some argument(s), then i took all those bashings as > Blessings for Me:-) (Litterly) Now just to tell you that all those > question were/are for understanding my chart only for myself.(like how > you are asking now i presume) As No astrologers (whom i consulted) were> unable to give any proper guidance- read as Astrological pointers, nor > whatever they told (Predictions)were in line with the practical > happenigs, at least 60% if not 100%.> > Still it is strange and unable to understand myself... in my chart What > exactly the Role of Saturn and Jupiter??> > On a practical lavel, in Career and professional front when trasit > Saturn moved in leo which is my 8H from Moon and 5H from Lagna, i had > and still having good growth..Now Jup is in deblity career is > stabalized i believe ofcourse professional challenges and work pressure > are there..But when trasit Saturn was in 7H from Moon and trasit Jup > was in 12H and 11H respectively for those 2 yrs back..i had lot of > career instability tension etc...> > Can you help me in understaning my chart? especially the role of Saturn > and Jupiter? by giving your invaluable inputs? > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund> > with regards and respect> > Chandu2Chill> > > , "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is> the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in > this area.> > Thanks very much for this note , I will keep it saved in my records.> > regards/Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji, //I am not among those who ask for free readings.// I completely understand this just by observing you and your open minded exchanges in the fourms from past 2-3 yrs. I do have that much of sense of understanding irrespective any planetery position(s) in my chart...:-) //Your case is different. You have been doing this asking continously for last 2 years and have taken thousands of views on your chart from hundreds of astrologers.// I agree each individual is diffrent, But your views on me asking continously with HUNDREDS of Astrologers is wrong.. //I dont have knowledge to comment on Your chart.// Sir, it is your prerogative i don't want to comment any further... Thank you for your kind reply Regards Chand2Chill , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Mr.Chandu 2 Chill ji, I am not among those who ask for free readings. I dont even accept a free cup of tea at somebodys place and do it most reluctantly if I have to, so it would be difficult for you to understand men like me, because you wont meet many of my kind these days . When I do ask, I ask without apprehensions, and people do it with love. I am also grateful to those who reply me. Your case is different. You have been doing this asking continously for last 2 years and have taken thousands of views on your chart from hundreds of astrologers. So theres a vast difference between your asking and my asking. And whenever I ask, there is always the tendency to use my chart as a sample-chart and lead it to some meaningful conclusion which will bring out the astrological principles for better study, more clearly to the rest of the members. But this will be difficult for you to understand till you ever reach this stage of learning, that there are people who use their own bodies for surgery to explain to their fraternity what happens when one uses a particular medicine or system of treatment. I dont have knowledge to comment on Your chart. I have already done that in the past several times. And nowadays stopped giving more than a single free reply. regards, Bhaskar. > , " Chandu2chill " > <nanna_id2006@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji, > > > > //In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who > is > > the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in > > this area.// > > > > My below comments are with bit of Jealous, b'coz or Are you asking for > > Free reading??:-)) But not to Disrespect to you... > > > > I had lot of bashing from you and Sri Sunil Nair Ji here and in Mrs. > > Windy's (JV) forum for asking too many questions Again and Again on my > > chart....after some argument(s), then i took all those bashings as > > Blessings for Me:-) (Litterly) Now just to tell you that all those > > question were/are for understanding my chart only for myself. (like how > > you are asking now i presume) As No astrologers (whom i consulted) > were > > unable to give any proper guidance- read as Astrological pointers, nor > > whatever they told (Predictions)were in line with the practical > > happenigs, at least 60% if not 100%. > > > > Still it is strange and unable to understand myself... in my chart > What > > exactly the Role of Saturn and Jupiter?? > > > > On a practical lavel, in Career and professional front when trasit > > Saturn moved in leo which is my 8H from Moon and 5H from Lagna, i had > > and still having good growth..Now Jup is in deblity career is > > stabalized i believe ofcourse professional challenges and work > pressure > > are there..But when trasit Saturn was in 7H from Moon and trasit Jup > > was in 12H and 11H respectively for those 2 yrs back..i had lot of > > career instability tension etc... > > > > Can you help me in understaning my chart? especially the role of > Saturn > > and Jupiter? by giving your invaluable inputs? > > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund > > > > with regards and respect > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > In fact I have a antardasha of Guru coming up in fewmonths time who is > > the 8th Lord placed in the 6th, hence I was looking for pointers in > > this area. > > > > Thanks very much for this note , I will keep it saved in my records. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Respected Seniors, Since few members were interest in my chart, i am producing it for the case study of VRY, which is their in my chart. Vijay Goel February 6, 1974 Time: 17:29:36 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 76 E 56' 00 " , 26 N 58' 00 " Paota, India (Near Jaipur) Karka Lagna and rashi. D-9 is scorpio lagna and i think it is right. (D-9 changes in very less time). There is two VRY, 1) Exchange of 12th and 8th house. 2) 6th lord is debilitated. My whole mercury mahadasa was excellent period though i was very young. Excellent in studies. As soon as ketu mahadasa started i was under lot of pressure and i had to lose my desired career. In ke\budh i seriously started learning Jyotish. Starting venus dasa i was married and in venus antar itself i was blessed with son. In moon antar i was blessed with daughter. Eldest in my family with three younger siblings. Any more if required will be made available. Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > Now here can someone clarify - > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the 6th lord > ? > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to fructify, can > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it need a > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Bhagwathiji, Saturn shoukld give him a new house when it enters as the AD or MD lord, and also gains through property, but after troubles. Jupiter will throw him off track from his profession and stability. The current period of Rahu will give him good gains. The next period will again cause troubles but eventually bring in wealth. regards/Bhaskar. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Neelamji, Bhaskarji , Gopuji and all, > > Yes mistake is on my side. I apologize. The BT is 10.04AM, not > 10.45AM. > > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhagavathi ji, > > > > I used these co-ordinates > > > > 008 N 43 and 077 E 44 > > > > I am getting Leo Lagna, with Jupiter as 8th Lord, but in 5th House. > and > > Ascendant at Leo 6.28 degrees > > > > Please let me know where I have faltered. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > What results would you normally expect in a case of VRY in the > common > > > population. Some texts say that VRY is beneficial for political > > > purposes. I have a chart with the said combination of 8L in 6th > with > > > 6L. > > > > > > June 15, 1960, 10.45 AM, Palayamkottai, India > > > > > > The native has 8L saturn in 6th with 6L jupiter. He had both > saturn > > > and jupiter mahadasha. > > > > > > I request you and other members to take a look at this chart. If > > > interested, we can discuss this. I can provide information as > > > required. > > > > > > Regards, > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Vipareeta Rajyoga, one of them, is the 8th Lord in the 6th house > > > > alongwith the 6th Lord. > > > > > > > > Now here can someone clarify - > > > > > > > > 1) Which planet causes the Rajyoga here ? The 8th lord, or the > 6th > > > lord > > > > ? > > > > > > > > 2) When will this Vipareeta Rajyoga fructify ? > > > > > > > > 3) The planet which qualifies for the Vipareeta Rajyoga to > > > fructify, can > > > > it fructify as an antardasha Lord ? And if so, then does it > need a > > > > particular Mahadasha Lord or will any mahadashaLord do ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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