Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Bhagavathi ji, Nice article...and liked the following para very much. //The malefic influences in our chart generally deliver to us our negative, undesirable karma during the times of their dashas and transits. While this is true from an astrological standpoint, it's our attitude about change that's important. Our happiness is internally based not externally. "People are disturbed not by things, but by the view they take of them," writes Greek philosopher Epictetus in the 1st century B.C. Astrology reveals the likely outcome of our external situation but not our internal reaction to it. That is our choice, moment to moment. We either choose to be 'victims of our fate' or we rise above it. We either look for the 'silver lining', the 'blessing in disguise', the 'opportunity for growth,' or we just continue feeling like it really, actually, totally and justifiably 'sucks.' // blessings, Renu , "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Dear all,> > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came across the > following:> > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. Santhanam, the > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat Parashara Hora > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, "I see you began studying > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened to me > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord." It's very > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of astrologers. > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with either the > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon (mind, > emotions), or the Sun (personality). //> > The complete article can be read on > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm> > Regards,> bhagavathi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Bhagavati ji and group,With due respect to Sh R. Santhanam and Vaughn Paul, there is more to it than what appears to be. No MD/AD/PD lord is singularly responsible to give results. And it is not always that the lord of a house gives its own results. No single house is responsible for any event in life. If there is one primary house for any happening, as per classics, there are at least 2-3 secondary houses which are also associated with it. Unless we try to understand the dynamics of the houses and planets activated by dasha and their strength to give results, we cannot derive the results. If he has was initiated under some gurus and was learning vedic astrology as per shastras, the 9H has to play its role. In modern times, all areas have expanded as we have a host of options available. This is also the reason why it is also becoming difficult to pin point things like profession, education, income, etc. Astrology was connected with 9H as a guru and higher learning was involved. Now with e-gurus and a study which can hardly be called higher, we may not see 9H playing a role in producing and astrologers. Instead of 2H of Vaani, we may have 3H of typing which is more important to be a successful astrologer? 8H is connected with astrology in being a house of research, metaphysical studies, occult etc. But how the study was initiated and under what circumstances, can only be seen through the interplay of other lords. We can only tell once we know the chart and dasha sequence. We can have more opinions on this.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Bhagavati, I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th house. Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything seriously. Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear all, > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came across the > following: > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. Santhanam, the > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat Parashara Hora > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, " I see you began studying > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened to me > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord. " It's very > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of astrologers. > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with either the > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon (mind, > emotions), or the Sun (personality). // > > The complete article can be read on > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm > > Regards, > bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Vijayji, Yes, this is interesting info. I have been associated with astro since childhood because of parampara but actually started learning only in the dasha/antara of my 8L. Thanks and Regards, bhagavathi , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Bhagavati, > > I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th house. > Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything seriously. > > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > , > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came across the > > following: > > > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. Santhanam, the > > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat Parashara Hora > > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, " I see you began studying > > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened to me > > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord. " It's very > > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of astrologers. > > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with either the > > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon (mind, > > emotions), or the Sun (personality). // > > > > The complete article can be read on > > > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm > > > > Regards, > > bhagavathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Bhagwathiji and Goelji, Can I have your birth details please, to check this ? regards, Bhaskar. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Vijayji, > > Yes, this is interesting info. I have been associated with astro > since childhood because of parampara but actually started learning > only in the dasha/antara of my 8L. > > Thanks and Regards, > bhagavathi > > , " Vijay Goel " > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhagavati, > > > > I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th > house. > > Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything > seriously. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came across > the > > > following: > > > > > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. Santhanam, > the > > > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat Parashara > Hora > > > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, " I see you began > studying > > > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened to > me > > > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord. " It's > very > > > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of astrologers. > > > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with either > the > > > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon > (mind, > > > emotions), or the Sun (personality). // > > > > > > The complete article can be read on > > > > > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm > > > > > > Regards, > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Neelamji, I agreee here, Success in Higher studies like astrology can only come through the 9th house. Interest in astro studies can come through the 8th House of Occult. Just like the 8th house is showing extra marital sexual unions, but the marriage is seen only from the 7th house. The inerplay og houses has to be there essentially for any event to take place, otherwise it cannot happen . The 6th can only show disputes and incompatibility in marriage for instance, but the 8th or 12th Lords running together as dasha Lords will show actual Divorce. The 5th will show interest in sepculations, but if conjoined with the 11th or the 2nd then only will it show gains, if the 5th is conjoined with the 8th, then only Losses. This is the right way to judge actually. We just cannot blame or give weight to any single lord for events unfolding in ones Life. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhagavati ji and group, > > With due respect to Sh R. Santhanam and Vaughn Paul, there is more to it > than what appears to be. No MD/AD/PD lord is singularly responsible to give > results. And it is not always that the lord of a house gives its own > results. No single house is responsible for any event in life. If there is > one primary house for any happening, as per classics, there are at least 2-3 > secondary houses which are also associated with it. Unless we try to > understand the dynamics of the houses and planets activated by dasha and > their strength to give results, we cannot derive the results. If he has was > initiated under some gurus and was learning vedic astrology as per shastras, > the 9H has to play its role. > > In modern times, all areas have expanded as we have a host of options > available. This is also the reason why it is also becoming difficult to pin > point things like profession, education, income, etc. Astrology was > connected with 9H as a guru and higher learning was involved. Now with > e-gurus and a study which can hardly be called higher, we may not see 9H > playing a role in producing and astrologers. Instead of 2H of Vaani, we may > have 3H of typing which is more important to be a successful astrologer? > > 8H is connected with astrology in being a house of research, metaphysical > studies, occult etc. But how the study was initiated and under what > circumstances, can only be seen through the interplay of other lords. We can > only tell once we know the chart and dasha sequence. > > We can have more opinions on this. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhagavathiji, I started learning astrology seriously from my Me Dasa-Jup Bhukti. Me is the lord of 4/7H while Jup is LL/10L. Both aspect each other, added to that aspects of 2L/9L Mars & 3L/8L Venus. Me in Cancer, with Mars & Venus, while Jup is retro in Capricorn. AK Saturn with Ketu in 8th house from Lagna. What does it indicate? Thank you, . , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Vijayji, > > Yes, this is interesting info. I have been associated with astro > since childhood because of parampara but actually started learning > only in the dasha/antara of my 8L. > > Thanks and Regards, > bhagavathi > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhagavati, > > > > I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th > house. > > Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything > seriously. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came across > the > > > following: > > > > > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. Santhanam, > the > > > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat Parashara > Hora > > > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, " I see you began > studying > > > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened to > me > > > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord. " It's > very > > > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of astrologers. > > > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with either > the > > > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon > (mind, > > > emotions), or the Sun (personality). // > > > > > > The complete article can be read on > > > > > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm > > > > > > Regards, > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Neelamji, I started studying Astrology in the Dasha of the Atmakaraka Venus, in 1982-1983 , who is seated in the 9th House in my Chart. I passed out from Bhartiya Vidya Bhuvan, Bombay for one of their astro courses, during the Dasha of the 9th Lord Mars. regards/Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Neelamji, > > I agreee here, > > Success in Higher studies like astrology can only come through the 9th > house. > > Interest in astro studies can come through the 8th House of Occult. > > Just like the 8th house is showing extra marital sexual unions, but the > marriage is seen only from the 7th house. > > The inerplay og houses has to be there essentially for any event to take > place, otherwise it cannot happen . > > The 6th can only show disputes and incompatibility in marriage for > instance, but the 8th or 12th Lords running together as dasha Lords > will show actual Divorce. > > The 5th will show interest in sepculations, but if conjoined with the > 11th or the 2nd then only will it show gains, if the 5th is conjoined > with the 8th, then only Losses. > > This is the right way to judge actually. > > We just cannot blame or give weight to any single lord for events > unfolding in ones Life. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > , neelam gupta > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhagavati ji and group, > > > > With due respect to Sh R. Santhanam and Vaughn Paul, there is more to > it > > than what appears to be. No MD/AD/PD lord is singularly responsible to > give > > results. And it is not always that the lord of a house gives its own > > results. No single house is responsible for any event in life. If > there is > > one primary house for any happening, as per classics, there are at > least 2-3 > > secondary houses which are also associated with it. Unless we try to > > understand the dynamics of the houses and planets activated by dasha > and > > their strength to give results, we cannot derive the results. If he > has was > > initiated under some gurus and was learning vedic astrology as per > shastras, > > the 9H has to play its role. > > > > In modern times, all areas have expanded as we have a host of options > > available. This is also the reason why it is also becoming difficult > to pin > > point things like profession, education, income, etc. Astrology was > > connected with 9H as a guru and higher learning was involved. Now with > > e-gurus and a study which can hardly be called higher, we may not see > 9H > > playing a role in producing and astrologers. Instead of 2H of Vaani, > we may > > have 3H of typing which is more important to be a successful > astrologer? > > > > 8H is connected with astrology in being a house of research, > metaphysical > > studies, occult etc. But how the study was initiated and under what > > circumstances, can only be seen through the interplay of other lords. > We can > > only tell once we know the chart and dasha sequence. > > > > We can have more opinions on this. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Neelamji, Of course this fulfills the condition. Which is what i menat in my previous mail, that if the other benefic houses are conjoined , like 2 or 11, then only success is guaranteed, otherwise not. A single planet can do nothing much on its own, if not conjoined with benefic houses or malefic houses. regards, Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > //Lords of 2,9,11 forming good aspects mutually among themselves and the > great benefic Jupiter will offer the most desirable results to the > astrologer and to the consultant. // > This is a statement from the KP Reader II. > > I know someone who has 2,9,11 lords conjoined in lagna in jupiter's sign, > and Jupiter in 11th in parivartan with 11L. Do you think this connection > fulfils the condition given in the reader? He started studying astrology in > the antar of 9L. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Namaste Ms Bhagavathi ji, I started learning / focussing on Astrology during my LL & 4HL Dasha conjoined with 8HL. In between I did learn / spend time in learning - palmistry & numerology through my father's numerous temple contacts, for he headed Archaeology-Conservation deptt. in India and he was well known for knowledge on temple architecture and many temples received grants or repairs or got listed in current ancient_monuments / temples register..etc. Primarily, my association with Hindu scriptures / spirituality was present from childhood {3-4 yrs } days onwards with visits to various Swamiji's and listening to their direct discourses and by age 18-19 yrs, " finished " reading books of many well-known spiritual giants of Hindu_India {as available in their respective libraries / ashrams} before taking or joining with Yogoda Satsanga Society {YSS} of Ranchi i.e. founded by author of Autobiography of a Yogi. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Sreeramji, This 8H/L seems to be really interesting to initiate learning of astrology. Thanks and Regards, bhagavathi , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Ms Bhagavathi ji, > > I started learning / focussing on Astrology during my LL & 4HL Dasha > conjoined with 8HL. > > In between I did learn / spend time in learning - palmistry & numerology > through my father's numerous temple contacts, for he headed > Archaeology-Conservation deptt. in India and he was well known for > knowledge on temple architecture and many temples received grants or > repairs or got listed in current ancient_monuments / temples > register..etc. > > Primarily, my association with Hindu scriptures / spirituality was > present from childhood {3-4 yrs } days onwards with visits to various > Swamiji's and listening to their direct discourses and by age 18-19 yrs, > " finished " reading books of many well-known spiritual giants of > Hindu_India {as available in their respective libraries / ashrams} > before taking or joining with Yogoda Satsanga Society {YSS} of Ranchi > i.e. founded by author of Autobiography of a Yogi. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, I have posted my Birth details already in the forum Even i have posted personally to you also. For ready reference here i am posting again. February 6, 1974 Time: 17:29:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 76 E 56' 00 " , 26 N 58' 00 " Paota, (near Jaipur)India Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhagwathiji and Goelji, > > Can I have your birth details please, to check this ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vijayji, > > > > Yes, this is interesting info. I have been associated with astro > > since childhood because of parampara but actually started learning > > only in the dasha/antara of my 8L. > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > bhagavathi > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhagavati, > > > > > > I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th > > house. > > > Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything > > seriously. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > , > > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came across > > the > > > > following: > > > > > > > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. Santhanam, > > the > > > > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat Parashara > > Hora > > > > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, " I see you began > > studying > > > > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened to > > me > > > > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord. " It's > > very > > > > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of astrologers. > > > > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with either > > the > > > > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon > > (mind, > > > > emotions), or the Sun (personality). // > > > > > > > > The complete article can be read on > > > > > > > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Hi,I started learning astrology during shani mahadasa (exalted) and venus antardasa, venus being my 2nd and 7th lord placed in the 8th house.Regs,Anita--- On Sun, 1/3/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Some info of interest Date: Sunday, 1 March, 2009, 6:21 PM Dear Bhaskar ji,//Lords of 2,9,11 forming good aspects mutually among themselves and the great benefic Jupiter will offer the most desirable results to the astrologer and to the consultant. // This is a statement from the KP Reader II. I know someone who has 2,9,11 lords conjoined in lagna in jupiter’s sign, and Jupiter in 11th in parivartan with 11L. Do you think this connection fulfils the condition given in the reader? He started studying astrology in the antar of 9L. RegardsNeelam Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Vijay ji, You said - // I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th house. Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything seriously. // You have Budh in the 8th House, but Budh in Your Horoscope represents the 9th house strongly, and will give you effects of only the 9th House. I leave it to you, to figure out how it represents the 9th house. What astrology you people are into, is not real astrology, but all paper-talk. In case you cannot figure out how Budh represents the 9th house, let me know. I willl provide some spoon feeding. But try at least before reverting back to me. Bhaskar. , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> > I have posted my Birth details already in the forum Even i have posted> personally to you also.> > For ready reference here i am posting again.> > February 6, 1974> Time: 17:29:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 76 E 56' 00", 26 N 58' 00"> Paota, (near Jaipur)India> > Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > , "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Bhagwathiji and Goelji,> > > > Can I have your birth details please, to check this ?> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , "bhagavathi_hariharan"> > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijayji,> > >> > > Yes, this is interesting info. I have been associated with astro> > > since childhood because of parampara but actually started learning> > > only in the dasha/antara of my 8L.> > >> > > Thanks and Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >> > > , "Vijay Goel"> > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhagavati,> > > >> > > > I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th> > > house.> > > > Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything> > > seriously.> > > >> > > > Best Wishes,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > >> > > > ,> > > > "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > >> > > > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came across> > > the> > > > > following:> > > > >> > > > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. Santhanam,> > > the> > > > > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat Parashara> > > Hora> > > > > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, "I see you began> > > studying> > > > > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened to> > > me> > > > > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord." It's> > > very> > > > > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of astrologers.> > > > > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with either> > > the> > > > > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon> > > (mind,> > > > > emotions), or the Sun (personality). //> > > > >> > > > > The complete article can be read on> > > > >> > > > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > bhagavathi> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 what about 12th ? it is supposed to be the house of intution.--- On Sun, 1/3/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Some info of interest Date: Sunday, 1 March, 2009, 10:59 PM Dear Bhagavati ji and group,With due respect to Sh R. Santhanam and Vaughn Paul, there is more to it than what appears to be. No MD/AD/PD lord is singularly responsible to give results. And it is not always that the lord of a house gives its own results. No single house is responsible for any event in life. If there is one primary house for any happening, as per classics, there are at least 2-3 secondary houses which are also associated with it. Unless we try to understand the dynamics of the houses and planets activated by dasha and their strength to give results, we cannot derive the results. If he has was initiated under some gurus and was learning vedic astrology as per shastras, the 9H has to play its role. In modern times, all areas have expanded as we have a host of options available. This is also the reason why it is also becoming difficult to pin point things like profession, education, income, etc. Astrology was connected with 9H as a guru and higher learning was involved. Now with e-gurus and a study which can hardly be called higher, we may not see 9H playing a role in producing and astrologers. Instead of 2H of Vaani, we may have 3H of typing which is more important to be a successful astrologer? 8H is connected with astrology in being a house of research, metaphysical studies, occult etc. But how the study was initiated and under what circumstances, can only be seen through the interplay of other lords. We can only tell once we know the chart and dasha sequence.We can have more opinions on this.RegardsNeelam Connect with friends all over the world.. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear members, As per my observation 12th lord is capable of giving astrological knowledge, because it is in Trina to 8th house privided it should have some links with Mercury and Jupiter.--- On Mon, 3/2/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjivRe: Re: Some info of interest Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 12:29 PM what about 12th ? it is supposed to be the house of intution.--- On Sun, 1/3/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Some info of interest Date: Sunday, 1 March, 2009, 10:59 PM Dear Bhagavati ji and group,With due respect to Sh R. Santhanam and Vaughn Paul, there is more to it than what appears to be. No MD/AD/PD lord is singularly responsible to give results. And it is not always that the lord of a house gives its own results. No single house is responsible for any event in life. If there is one primary house for any happening, as per classics, there are at least 2-3 secondary houses which are also associated with it. Unless we try to understand the dynamics of the houses and planets activated by dasha and their strength to give results, we cannot derive the results. If he has was initiated under some gurus and was learning vedic astrology as per shastras, the 9H has to play its role. In modern times, all areas have expanded as we have a host of options available. This is also the reason why it is also becoming difficult to pin point things like profession, education, income, etc. Astrology was connected with 9H as a guru and higher learning was involved. Now with e-gurus and a study which can hardly be called higher, we may not see 9H playing a role in producing and astrologers. Instead of 2H of Vaani, we may have 3H of typing which is more important to be a successful astrologer? 8H is connected with astrology in being a house of research, metaphysical studies, occult etc. But how the study was initiated and under what circumstances, can only be seen through the interplay of other lords. We can only tell once we know the chart and dasha sequence.We can have more opinions on this.RegardsNeelam Connect with friends all over the world.. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,Thank you for your confirmation. I find the principles of KP quite useful when logically applied with traditional.Various houses have to get involved as the houses only will indicate where the purushartha for a particular karma is being applied or is likely to be applied. I would like to quote from Sh. KN Rao here, who gives the following points to understand the link between karma and astrology (these can be applied to any area of life and suitable inferences can be drawn):1. All houses represent four purusharthas or efforts viz. dharma (religious conduct), artha (earnings), kama (desires) and moksha (salvation). 2. The lords of these houses, planets in them and planets aspecting them excite into action those purusharthas.3. It happens in the dasha concerned.When the above is applied to study/practice of astrology, it will indicate where the purushartha of the native directed wrt astrology. Thanks and RegardsNeelam2009/3/1 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Neelamji, Of course this fulfills the condition. Which is what i menat in my previous mail, that if the other benefic houses are conjoined , like 2 or 11, then only success is guaranteed, otherwise not. A single planet can do nothing much on its own, if not conjoined with benefic houses or malefic houses. regards, Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > //Lords of 2,9,11 forming good aspects mutually among themselves and the > great benefic Jupiter will offer the most desirable results to the > astrologer and to the consultant. // > This is a statement from the KP Reader II. > > I know someone who has 2,9,11 lords conjoined in lagna in jupiter's sign, > and Jupiter in 11th in parivartan with 11L. Do you think this connection > fulfils the condition given in the reader? He started studying astrology in > the antar of 9L. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Respected Bhaskerji, In this antar dasa of mercury i started learning astrology from direct Gurus. I joined ICAS. I have direst Jyotish Gurus of international repute and very sound knowledge of Jyotish to spoon feed me. I also had few direct classed from Sri K N Rao, from there i made my mind to learn jyotish and followed him. Here many eminent scholers jyotishis has blessing on me. You may be intelligent but your previous post indicate you rahu+mars in lagna, and i will be not comfortable with you. Thankyou, Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > You said - > > // I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th > house. Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything > seriously. // > > You have Budh in the 8th House, but Budh in Your Horoscope represents > the 9th house strongly, and will give you effects of only the 9th House. > > I leave it to you, to figure out how it represents the 9th house. What > astrology you people are into, is not real astrology, but all > paper-talk. > > In case you cannot figure out how Budh represents the 9th house, let me > know. I willl provide some spoon feeding. But try at least before > reverting back to me. > > Bhaskar. > > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > I have posted my Birth details already in the forum Even i have posted > > personally to you also. > > > > For ready reference here i am posting again. > > > > February 6, 1974 > > Time: 17:29:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 76 E 56' 00 " , 26 N 58' 00 " > > Paota, (near Jaipur)India > > > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhagwathiji and Goelji, > > > > > > Can I have your birth details please, to check this ? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , > " bhagavathi_hariharan " > > > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vijayji, > > > > > > > > Yes, this is interesting info. I have been associated with astro > > > > since childhood because of parampara but actually started learning > > > > only in the dasha/antara of my 8L. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhagavati, > > > > > > > > > > I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th > > > > house. > > > > > Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything > > > > seriously. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came > across > > > > the > > > > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. > Santhanam, > > > > the > > > > > > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat > Parashara > > > > Hora > > > > > > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, " I see you began > > > > studying > > > > > > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened > to > > > > me > > > > > > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord. " > It's > > > > very > > > > > > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of > astrologers. > > > > > > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with > either > > > > the > > > > > > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon > > > > (mind, > > > > > > emotions), or the Sun (personality). // > > > > > > > > > > > > The complete article can be read on > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Agree, in my chart 8L is also the 9L. The question here is only initiation to learn astrology. I actually started it when I was having 8H effects, which I could feel that time. The 9H will be for success and long term achievement. You have my chart now, all through my Rahu dasha I have only been studying, except my rahu/venus antara, when I only worked but that was also a research job. I have started studying again. I wish to clarify that this 8H/astro theory is not propounded by me. It is by someone who is highly recognized in astrology and deserves respect. It cannot be just shunned Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Vijay Goelji // You may be intelligent but your previous post indicate you rahu+mars > in lagna, and i will be not comfortable with you.// Wise decesion. Please keep to it. No comments on your other comments. regards/Bhaskar. > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > In this antar dasa of mercury i started learning astrology from direct > Gurus. I joined ICAS. > > I have direst Jyotish Gurus of international repute and very sound > knowledge of Jyotish to spoon feed me. I also had few direct classed > from Sri K N Rao, from there i made my mind to learn jyotish and > followed him. > > Here many eminent scholers jyotishis has blessing on me. > > You may be intelligent but your previous post indicate you rahu+mars > in lagna, and i will be not comfortable with you. > > Thankyou, > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > You said - > > > > // I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th > > house. Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything > > seriously. // > > > > You have Budh in the 8th House, but Budh in Your Horoscope represents > > the 9th house strongly, and will give you effects of only the 9th House. > > > > I leave it to you, to figure out how it represents the 9th house. What > > astrology you people are into, is not real astrology, but all > > paper-talk. > > > > In case you cannot figure out how Budh represents the 9th house, let me > > know. I willl provide some spoon feeding. But try at least before > > reverting back to me. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > I have posted my Birth details already in the forum Even i have posted > > > personally to you also. > > > > > > For ready reference here i am posting again. > > > > > > February 6, 1974 > > > Time: 17:29:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 76 E 56' 00 " , 26 N 58' 00 " > > > Paota, (near Jaipur)India > > > > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhagwathiji and Goelji, > > > > > > > > Can I have your birth details please, to check this ? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " > > > > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijayji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is interesting info. I have been associated with astro > > > > > since childhood because of parampara but actually started learning > > > > > only in the dasha/antara of my 8L. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhagavati, > > > > > > > > > > > > I started learning astrology in the antar dasa of planet in 8th > > > > > house. > > > > > > Before that i was having only interest but not studies anything > > > > > seriously. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading an article by Vaughn Paul on the web. I came > > across > > > > > the > > > > > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //When I first went to India in 1992 I studied with R. > > Santhanam, > > > > > the > > > > > > > translator of the classical Sanskrit text, the Brihat > > Parashara > > > > > Hora > > > > > > > Shastra. After studying my chart he said, " I see you began > > > > > studying > > > > > > > astrology during the sub dasha of your 8th lord. This happened > > to > > > > > me > > > > > > > too. I also took up astrology in the dasha of my 8th lord. " > > It's > > > > > very > > > > > > > common to see 8th house connections in the charts of > > astrologers. > > > > > > > Usually the 8th house or 8th lord will be connected with > > either > > > > > the > > > > > > > 10th house (career), the 1st house (self, identity), the Moon > > > > > (mind, > > > > > > > emotions), or the Sun (personality). // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The complete article can be read on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-gifts.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Bhagwathi ji, I know the 8th House is important in the Occult sciences and I know its not propounded by You . I know the 8th houses's importance is very much there for certain matters in Occult. But those who have studied Horary strology, also know that when their Moon lands in the 8th house of their Chart, they must cease to predict on those 2 1/2 days. This must connect to something... which I will not elaborate presently. // all through my Rahu > dasha I have only been studying // Madam, Look at your chart again. Your Rahu is in the 9th house . regards/Bhaskar. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Agree, in my chart 8L is also the 9L. The question here is only > initiation to learn astrology. I actually started it when I was having > 8H effects, which I could feel that time. The 9H will be for success > and long term achievement. You have my chart now, all through my Rahu > dasha I have only been studying, except my rahu/venus antara, when I > only worked but that was also a research job. I have started studying > again. > > I wish to clarify that this 8H/astro theory is not propounded by me. It > is by someone who is highly recognized in astrology and deserves > respect. It cannot be just shunned > > Regards, > bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Respected Bhagavatiji, 2,5,8,11th house is the houses of future. 2nd house indicate storage for future. 5th house provides future planning. 8th house. since 7th house is the house of highest knowledge therefore 8th house indicate knowledge through future can be depicted. death is the process for future birth. 11th house is final earnings again future of 10th house. So your research is at the right path. Any connection to these house and other factors will indicate Jyotish. Thankyou, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Agree, in my chart 8L is also the 9L. The question here is only > initiation to learn astrology. I actually started it when I was having > 8H effects, which I could feel that time. The 9H will be for success > and long term achievement. You have my chart now, all through my Rahu > dasha I have only been studying, except my rahu/venus antara, when I > only worked but that was also a research job. I have started studying > again. > > I wish to clarify that this 8H/astro theory is not propounded by me. It > is by someone who is highly recognized in astrology and deserves > respect. It cannot be just shunned > > Regards, > bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Vijayji, Thank you. Makes lot of sense to me. bhagavathi , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Bhagavatiji, > > 2,5,8,11th house is the houses of future. > > 2nd house indicate storage for future. > 5th house provides future planning. > 8th house. since 7th house is the house of highest knowledge therefore > 8th house indicate knowledge through future can be depicted. death is > the process for future birth. > 11th house is final earnings again future of 10th house. > > So your research is at the right path. > Any connection to these house and other factors will indicate Jyotish. > > Thankyou, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > > , > " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Agree, in my chart 8L is also the 9L. The question here is only > > initiation to learn astrology. I actually started it when I was having > > 8H effects, which I could feel that time. The 9H will be for success > > and long term achievement. You have my chart now, all through my Rahu > > dasha I have only been studying, except my rahu/venus antara, when I > > only worked but that was also a research job. I have started studying > > again. > > > > I wish to clarify that this 8H/astro theory is not propounded by me. It > > is by someone who is highly recognized in astrology and deserves > > respect. It cannot be just shunned > > > > Regards, > > bhagavathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Dear Bhagavathi ji, I agree with you on the study of astrology being an 8th house gift as said by KN Rao ji. I too started reading up on astrology in my moon dasa. My moon is in 2nd house (aspecting 8th) along with mercury, my 8th lord. So my moon is deeply influenced by mercury the 8th lord, and moon dasa saw many combined influences of 8th house and 9th house. With regards, smitha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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