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Dear Punkajj Dhar ji,Please do not over react. We are only asking you to be clearer in what you're trying to say.Last things first.

//The postings are not to throw one's weight but to share knwoldge...let us behave proeprly and respect each other...//

Who is POMPOMING or TOMTOMING is for all to see. If I have said that I don't understand what you've written, I am not behaving properly?//Kindly donot spoil the taste by making negative comments..crtsicize constructively..so that we can move ahead..together..//

There is no taste at the moment and comments will be negative and positive only when one understands, we move together only when we agree.//Once again the space is less to put here now..I had detailed discussion

with one of the most well knwon astrologer's(VA), who had turned dead

against astrology, used to work with one of the leading scientists(

nominated for Nobel prize)...

I defnded and made him aplogize fro the sake of astrology( I could share some of his confessions 1-O-1 mail, if desired..)//This is POM POM again. I have nothing to say. We do not know the facts. We do not know what you're talking about.

//Also a word of caution to people..who tend to discount matters..rather

than humbly submitting together to unravel this sceibnce..If you really

think in astrology LOGIC has no role to play..then please use your

INTUTION only...you neither need astrology or any other intermediate

tool..you shoudl read the akshaic records...//Why are you cautioning people. I thought you were trying to reveal some model?//Also I am sorry- I am not trying to come up to anyone's expecattions..just sharing....knowldge...I have no compulsions to..OK.//

We have expectations only from ourselves. We have no compulsions also to accept everything thrown at us.//But if any one re-reads,thinks , mediates and connects with his or her own life expereince.. I am sure you will be able to connect..//

What is there to read and reread and then meditated upon?? Who is the authority saying this?//if 3 astrologers make 3 different predictions varying in content..they

could still be correct...why? the reasons of it are explained..-

astrology is subjective in nature, a) more the knwoldge b) Clearer the

fundamentals c) Better mind functioning- better or more accurate or

vivid is the preiction...- also like qunatum physics - astrology is

more chance driven..that YE or NO...I might get this artciel fro the

readers..)//I don't understand this. If we are trying to predict the time of marriage for a person, how can 3 different predictions be right. Hope you are not talking about describing traits and behaviour which we do not call predictions.

Please be kind enough to post your articles and references you're talking about.RegardsNeelam2009/3/10 pom pom <pankajdhar

 

 

 

 

 

HI Neelam,

I agree with you.It would be confusing..

 

But if any one re-reads,thinks , mediates and connects with his or her

own life expereince.. I am sure you will be able to connect..

( I donot have an article handly with me, which I had written fro a magazine, which would have been helpful here- the heart of it is, that if 3 astrologers make 3 different predictions varying in content..they could still be correct...why? the reasons of it are explained..- astrology is subjective in nature, a) more the knwoldge b) Clearer the fundamentals c) Better mind functioning- better or more accurate or vivid is the preiction...- also like qunatum physics - astrology is more chance driven..that YE or NO...I might get this artciel fro the readers..)

 

Also I am sorry- I am not trying to come up to anyone's expecattions..just sharing....knowldge...I have no compulsions to..OK.

 

Also a word of caution to people..who tend to discount matters..rather than humbly submitting together to unravel this sceibnce..If you really think in astrology LOGIC has no role to play..then please use your INTUTION only...you neither need astrology or any other intermediate tool..you shoudl read the akshaic records...

 

Once again the space is less to put here now..I had detailed discussion with one of the most well knwon astrologer's(VA), who had turned dead against astrology, used to work with one of the leading scientists( nominated for Nobel prize)...

 

I defnded and made him aplogize fro the sake of astrology( I could share some of his confessions 1-O-1 mail, if desired..)

 

Kindly donot spoil the taste by making negative comments..crtsicize constructively..so that we can move ahead..together..

 

The postings are not to throw one's weight but to share knwoldge...let us behave proeprly and respect each other...

 

Thanks,

 

Regards,

Punkajj

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Punkajj C Dhar,

>

> I regret to say that whatever you've written is absolutely not clear,

> neither in content and concept, nor in language.

> I could not understand and derive the meaning of a single sentence, except

> for some familiar words and figures.

>

> I don't know about others, but they also appear to be tongue-tied... sorry

> finger-tied.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

>

> 2009/3/9 pom pom <pankajdhar

>

> > Dear ALL,

> > You all are blessed and so is the moderator- the reason is allowing freedom

> > to express oneself.

> >

> > I will try to address your queries:

> >

> > a) It would take me one line to write what is the model, but I personally

> > feel it might work against the basic tenets of intent behind astrology.

> >

> > Some one mentioend Numerology connected to me , yes that is true. There

> > is omething known as CABALAH in numerology- and ancient hebrew system...in

> > whcih random outcome .. and sub ject to MULTIPLE INTERPRETETIONS..(whill

> > explin this..and how it connects to astrlogy)is goven based on number and

> > names..

> >

> > b) How it connects to VA?

> > I used to think it is not correct...but based on study of VA and complexity

> > of life- I think such systems which tend to predict life..

> > have to be subject to MULTIPLE INTERPRETETIONS..

> >

> > How?

> >

> > 9th hsoue = dharma,father...etec..you can see many interpretetions..

> >

> > also as 9th = 5th from 5th so all parameters attacehd to 5th hsoeu apply to

> > 9th...

> >

> > also SUN = power , repstige blood....

> >

> > So how could multiple interpretetions be correct for VA....I think we know

> > the answer...

> >

> > c) So the key in VA or cabalah is to give the BASICS, 1st hsoue = self..

> > 2nd hsoue =.. & then you develoep your own method....

> >

> > I say for example: I see this " 6 " as number.

> >

> > but tilt it left 90 degrees it becomes siggma.

> >

> > Two signams toeghter from an astrologcial sign geuss waht

> >

> > Now 6 could looked as 9 as (Nine as wel..)...

> >

> > So genetlemen and ladies..the same intent is behiond the CLASSICS....

> >

> > They are ISPIRED IN NATURE...

> >

> > There are two kind of c\people who harm it...

> >

> > a) One who are pro astrology- but more pro their ego..

> > b) People who have a " sceintfic " mind and have not come out of liner

> > systems like I work hard in office I get results..

> >

> > But say a anon linera system like a market system...you never kow why and

> > hwo it would come up..

> >

> > So such people lack..the basic knowldge..of what our seers had thought of

> > hence crticsze... more later

> >

> > My regards and love to you all,

> > Punkajj C Dhar

> >

> > pankajdhar <pankajdhar%40>

> >

> > <%40>,

> > " pom pom " <pankajdhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > DEar All,

> > > namskar!

> > >

> > > I am Pankaj, essentailly a sofwtare specialist and done my post

> > graduation from IIT, but had to work as a professional astrologer to sharpen

> > my skills- I had a few very importnat learnings to share with you.

> > (moderator- kinldy do pass this mail to all others)

> > >

> > > Being from sceintfic background- I did come up with amodel to analyze

> > charts and whic in tunr does help in giving fairly accurate predictions.

> > >

> > > I realized:

> > > 1) The kind of value/quality/range that you can deliver by using model

> > based " sceintfic approach " as I used is much higher if one refers to the

> > classics as well.

> > >

> > > The reason is these classics have been written by people in dwpara/treta

> > yuga generally and by very inspired people- wihich people liek us who have

> > sound grounding in mathes etc, but still cannot match.

> > >

> > > As the kind of concentration levsl it takes to do these sceinecs is

> > missing with most of us

> > >

> > > 2) Many cheats, who for themselves have learnt astrology through

> > classics. Now have come up with their so called " sceintfic " ..like model

> > based approach- but mostly of it is hoax.

> > >

> > > Also they try to convince people that this the approach and make people

> > SLAVES fof their system, though they themselves offer advice based on

> > classics- which is far from what CLASSICS HAVE TO OFFER.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > CLASSICS = GUR (jaggerey) which is much healtheir than the SUGAR=

> > Model based approach.

> > >

> > > Though we need a balance of both.

> > >

> > > My regards and respect to all- Just wanted to share this piece of

> > information with all of you.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Punkajj C dhar

> > > pankajdhar@

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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