vedic astrology - interpretation by West.

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Dear Sreenadh-ji and other senior members,

 

While perusing through the Astrodienst FAQ, I came across the

following comments which I am attaching below.

 

 

Source : http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_gen_vedic_e.htm

 

Comment : "

2. Why do I have a different sun sign in Indian astrology?

The systems of astrology as practised in India and in the West are

quite different. This accounts probably for this difference.Hindu astrology uses a fixed star based zodiac which was taken over

from the Greeks in the Hellenistic times, when Hindu astrology

had its main formative period. Since then, the spring equinoctial point

has moved by nearly a sign, and western astrology, which uses the

tropical coordinate system of modern astronomy, has shifted its

sun-signs accordingly (see also: Precession and Zodiac). Hindu astrology

however sticks to a zodiac of 2000 years back in time. It has developed

different traditions of knowledge, also in many other respects."

 

(the emphasis and underlines were added).

 

 

As the above forum (Astro.com) has a very strong presence, any remark in

that forum have strong effect in people's mind. Could we do something about

this ?

 

I have noticed that the Owner (Alois Trendl) does rectify / change things when

pointed out in a cogent manner - with supporting evidence.

 

regards

 

 

Chakraborty

 

 

Sreenadh [sreesog]Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Dasha Sandhi and Dasa Chidra

 

Dear Chandu ji, ==>> Dasha Sandhi or some call it Dasha-Chidra is very crucial period for any native<== Dasa Sandhi and Dasa Chidra are two different things.1) Dasa Sandhi It is the name given to the Sandhi (Join) of two Dasa periods; Usually the last Antara of the ending Dasa and the first Antara of the starting Dasa - together this period is called Dasa Sandhi for those Dasas, and for that individual. Whenever a Dasa ends and another starts - it is Dasa Sandhi period.2) Dasa Chidra This is just another name for Pratryantara. The Dasa is subdivided into Anatras and Antaras are subdivided into Pratyantaras. Dasa-Antara-Pratyantara; this is a known and popular terminology popularly used even by JHora. There is another less popular terminology used in the same meaning - i.e. Dasa-Apahara-Chidra. i.e. Dasa is subdivided into Apahara and Apaharas are subdivided into Chidras. Or in other words Apahara is just another name for Antara and Chidra is just another name for Pratyantara. Chidra comes into mention by good astrologers just because of the fact that they want to and usually try to decipher exact results upto the Pratyantara (Chidra) level and nothing else. Hope this clarifies. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> > Dear Neospiritualist,> > //Kindly share your knowledge.//> > I can only share my experience as i have very little knwoledge...> > Yes Dasha Sandhi or some call it Dasha-Chidra is very crucial period for any native, again it all depends upon the dashas(Lords) operating and respective benefic/malificness with respect to the Lagna and Moon. So the effects/influences vari accordingly. Hence the good astrologer(s) normally sugggest to AOVID such period for taking any major dicisions..> > Just for your info, i got married in Dasha-Chidra and me and my estranged wife are living 1954Kms (by Air distance)away!!....:-):-(> > Hope this helps and the learned members may add..> > Regards> > Chandu2Chill> > > > , neo spiritualist neospiritualist@ wrote:> > Dear learned Members,> > Recently i was going through some site and there i had come across Dasha Sandhi. When a person is going through dasha sandhi, marriage should not be done. What are the effects of dasha sandhi on a person going through it? Will it be different for different different planets or the effects will be same for all the planets? Where it was first mentioned in classics? Kindly share your knowledge.> > I thank you very much.> > Regards,> Sai krishna> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Dear Chakraborty ji,

Yes, we can intimate/comment about the same in Astro.com.

Even Maxmullar had agreed on the fact that till date everyone is unable

to find a Lunar Zodiac (Nakshatra Chakra, Stellar Zodiac) in any Babylonian

records. Lunar Zodiac is totally indian and NO OTHER ANCIENT COUNTRY has any

every evidence of that much ancient use of Lunar Zodiac as evident from Vedas

itself. This ancient a Lunar Zodiac is unheard of in any part of the

world, except its borrowing by the Arabic people later from India. The

Babylonian and Egyptian Stellar mansions were Solar in nature and not Lunar;

but for us Nakshatra chakra is Lunar in nature and NOT Solar. Similarly coming

to the Solar Fixed Zodiac (Nirayana Rasi Chakra) except the Greek scholar

Hipparchus (who might have borrowed the same from india, similar to the use of polar

longitudes) no other Greek, Babylonian, Egyptian or any other records give any

proof about the use of a Solar Fixed Zodiac (Nirayana Rasi Chakra). This also

points to the fact that Nirayana Rasi Chakra (Sidereal Sign Wheel) is also of

Indian origin (of Agama/Tantric/Non-vedic origin) and not borrowed from

anywhere.

It is just that some Kaulian people who argue without study and base may

be present there as well.

Love and regards,

If the Greek philosophy is not in tune with and does not support

astrological principles; if all the Greeks discarded the application of Sidereal

astrology and polar zodiac thought to them by Hipparchus and ditched him, do

you think that Nirayana astrology can be of Greek origin? Hipparchus

must have learned that system from india! It is Indian philosophy, indian use

of polar longitudes that is in tune with Nirayana astrology.

As Sanjay Rath Puts it (in his new book Brihat Nakshatra - which is a

good book; I appreciate his efforts presented in this book), if the basic

Dharma-Artha-Kama-Moksha division of Signs originates from Nakshatra Padas how

can the origin of Signs be non-indian?! Dharma-Artha-Kama-Moksha is an Indian

concept, Nakshatra Pada division is an indian concept; if so how can a sign

division that depends on these two can be of non-indian origin?!! Naksahtra

pada connection with Dharma-Artha-Kama-Moksha division of Signs is explained

below -

Every nakshatra has got 4 padas - Dharama-Artha-Kama-Moksha; i.e.

the first pada is dharma pada, the second Artha pada and so on. The Aries sign

has got 9 padas in total - 3 Dharma padas, and 2 Artha-Kama-Moksha padas each.

This is the very reason for considering Aries (Mesha Rasi) as Dharma Rasi. The

same is true while considering Vrishabha (Taurus) as Artha Rasi, Gemini as Kama

Rasi etc as well. Thus the point is, the fundamental Rasi divisions itself is

related to Nakshatra padas; It is well proven that the Nakshatras and Nakshatra

padas (Nakshatra Chakra; Lunar Zodiac) is of Indian origin only. If so how can

the Rasi Chakra (Sidereal Solar Zodiac) can be of non-indian origin?! It is

impossible!

Love and regards,

Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh-ji and other senior members,> > While perusing through the Astrodienst FAQ, I came across the > following comments which I am attaching below. > > > Source : http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_gen_vedic_e.htm> <http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_gen_vedic_e.htm> > > Comment : " > > BM_22. Why do I have a different sun sign in Indian astrology?> The systems of astrology as practised in India and in the West are > quite different. This accounts probably for this difference.> Hindu astrology uses a fixed star based zodiac which was taken over > from the Greeks in the Hellenistic times, when Hindu astrology > had its main formative period. Since then, the spring equinoctial point> has moved by nearly a sign, and western astrology, which uses the > tropical coordinate system of modern astronomy, has shifted its > sun-signs accordingly (see also:> <http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_praezession_e.htm> Precession and> Zodiac). Hindu astrology > however sticks to a zodiac of 2000 years back in time. It has developed > different traditions of knowledge, also in many other respects."> > (the emphasis and underlines were added).> > As the above forum (Astro.com) has a very strong presence, any remark in > that forum have strong effect in people's mind. Could we do something about> this ?> > I have noticed that the Owner (Alois Trendl) does rectify / change things> when> pointed out in a cogent manner - with supporting evidence.> > regards> > > Chakraborty

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Dear Mr. Chakraborthy ji,

 

I was reading book on Hinduism by Blackwell publishers.... interesting

to see for every Westerner exploring Hindu culture... to them every

thing is copy & paste from Green or...etc. by Hindus..... when our

existence or civilization is much older than Europe or entire world put

together....

 

Hindu's concept of world - Maya - is too abstract for a western mind to

comphrehend.... for them there is NO concept of MIND.... only brain

{flesh}.. interestingly with every passing day/year.... Westerners are

accepting all those things they kept denying ..... now slowly getting

into understanding and accepting the Hindu way of thinking....

 

Concept of Karma made to Western Dictionary. Otherwise it was thought

by them to have invented by Hindus, after Newtons theory of Cause &

Effect... !!!

 

Christians think other than THEIR religion all other religions are

barbaric...!! When Christianity itself has its origins in Hindustan !!

{Christ & Kashmir + Jesus is born in Jerusalem - ASIA}. Thanks to

Westerners, else, Jerusalem would have been part of UNbroken Europe or

Mary was a European on tourist visit to Jerusalem gave

birth....story.... this is pending for publication at later time....

 

We have Mr. Sunil Bhattacharya to take care of those issues, ofcourse

include Mr. Kishore Patnaik... they are active on this front.....

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas