Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Those foolish who talk about " Tantra " in a derogatory manner and think it as a " one for all solution " should go and study for 10 years before they come to talk about this. Tantra actually is only for those who are " detached " and who want to attain " Vairagya " . Its not for the materialistic. Has anyone heard of this ? " Krishna ko pakad lo, to Lakshmiji apne aap chali aayengi " . " Radhe Radhe japo chale aayenge Bihari " " Radhe Radhe shyam milade, subah nahin toh shyam milade " . (Formally Radhe as " Radhe " . Latter " Shyam as " evening " .) In same way " Tantra " is for those who are really wanting to meet God faster than usual. Thats a different matter that those who walk on the edges of sharp swords and succesfully walk it through, for them the materialistic desires are attained just like a morning cup of tea or evening coffee. But for those idiots who dont know much about Tantra and treat it as a source to fulfill stupid materialistic desires, for them, Tantra is dangerous like a ghost, like a spirit, like a Pisacha,. Like a pisachini. like a Dakini, like a ghoul who will possess their bodies and suck their blood out till they bloody fall dead. Tantra is only for the fearless, those who fear nothing, and those who do not fear death,. those who do not fear loosing anything, for those who have only one desire - " To meet their Creator " . Tantra must not be indulged into, by the weak hearted, must not be talked about by the less knowledged, must not be discussed about the half knowledged idiots. This is a sacred knowledge of the Ancient Indians, of those Aghoris, of those Vedic Prakhand Pandits, whom we may be very less fortunate enought to meet one, in a single Life time. Tantra in the hands of good peop[le is a " blessing " in the hands of the evil is " Black Magic " , and for those who take resort of this, must be evry much sure and focused of their intentions , which must be honourable, or else they have had it. " Brahma rakhsasa Vidya " is another form of the Blak Tantra wherein one takes hold of the dead spirits , wh perform actions as desired by their masters, but those who indulge in this, and those who take resort of this, have to pay for this at the end of their lives, when they will meet a very deadly death, and after their deaths will have to remain slaves of those same spirits who worked for them ,when they were living. And after their deaths, how many years woudl tehy hav tow ork for them ? Not 10, 10 or 50, but between 1000 to 1500 to 2000 years. Therefore those idiots who think " Tantra " as a " one for all solution " must think twice, nay thrice before they indulge in this. I hope, that any further discussions on this would only take place with those who really know about " Tantra " . best wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 dear respected Bhaskar ji Thanks for this informativ and thought provoking post rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Those foolish who talk about "Tantra" in a derogatory manner and think> it as a "one for all solution" should go and study for 10 years before> they come to talk about this.> > Tantra actually is only for those who are "detached" and who want to> attain "Vairagya". Its not for the materialistic.> > Has anyone heard of this ? "Krishna ko pakad lo, to Lakshmiji apne aap> chali aayengi".> > "Radhe Radhe japo chale aayenge Bihari "> > "Radhe Radhe shyam milade, subah nahin toh shyam milade". (Formally> Radhe as "Radhe". Latter "Shyam as "evening".)> > In same way "Tantra " is for those who are really wanting to meet God> faster than usual. Thats a different matter that those who walk on the> edges of sharp swords and succesfully walk it through, for them the> materialistic desires are attained just like a morning cup of tea or> evening coffee.> > But for those idiots who dont know much about Tantra and treat it as a> source to fulfill stupid materialistic desires, for them, Tantra is> dangerous like a ghost, like a spirit, like a Pisacha,. Like a> pisachini. like a Dakini, like a ghoul who will possess their bodies and> suck their blood out till they bloody fall dead.> > Tantra is only for the fearless, those who fear nothing, and those who> do not fear death,. those who do not fear loosing anything, for those> who have only one desire - "To meet their Creator".> > Tantra must not be indulged into, by the weak hearted, must not be> talked about by the less knowledged, must not be discussed about the> half knowledged idiots.> > This is a sacred knowledge of the Ancient Indians, of those Aghoris, of> those Vedic Prakhand Pandits, whom we may be very less fortunate enought> to meet one, in a single Life time.> > Tantra in the hands of good peop[le is a "blessing" in the hands of the> evil is "Black Magic", and for those who take resort of this, must be> evry much sure and focused of their intentions , which must be> honourable, or else they have had it.> > "Brahma rakhsasa Vidya" is another form of the Blak Tantra wherein one> takes hold of the dead spirits , wh perform actions as desired by their> masters, but those who indulge in this, and those who take resort of> this, have to pay for this at the end of their lives, when they will> meet a very deadly death, and after their deaths will have to remain> slaves of those same spirits who worked for them ,when they were living.> And after their deaths, how many years woudl tehy hav tow ork for them ?> Not 10, 10 or 50, but between 1000 to 1500 to 2000 years.> > Therefore those idiots who think "Tantra" as a "one for all solution" > must think twice, nay thrice before they indulge in this.> > I hope, that any further discussions on this would only take place with> those who really know about "Tantra".> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Hello Bhaskarji, Thanks for your thoughts and views about tantra. So you agree tantra is powerful. But you have mentioned certain points (meet a very deadly death, and after their deaths will have to remain slaves of those same spirits who worked for them ,when they were living.And after their deaths, how many years woudl tehy hav tow ork for them ?Not 10, 10 or 50, but between 1000 to 1500 to 2000 years.) I would like to know from which scriptures you have got proof of this or its just your own opinion Regards, Pragathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Dear Pragathi ji, There is nothing to agree upon this. Everyone knows that Tantra is powerful. Over a period of 30 years experience one meets many people and reads many books. Whatever one mentions it is not possible to waste time in searching for relevant scriptures and give proof for ones statements to one and everybody, especially on the Net where it will not seve any tangible purpose or gains of any kind, except wastage of time. That was not my opnion. You may read a small pocket book available from Gita Press costing Rs.2- which will give you the scriptures names in details about what I have mentioned. But I dont have the energy to go back and search for this pocket books name, if you ask me. How this knowledge anyway going to serve in our day to day living ? Then, if its not going to serve any purpose in day to day living, then you may ask, why I have mentioend all this ? I have mentioned all this only so that the untrained may keep away from Tantra and not dabble with it, which is my only purpose for these small write-ups. I am not avilable any more to write on this subject. best wishes, Bhaskar. an_astrology , "pragathi" <jinaspice wrote:>> Hello Bhaskarji,> > Thanks for your thoughts and views about tantra.> > So you agree tantra is powerful.> > But you have mentioned certain points> > (meet a very deadly death, and after their deaths will have to remain> slaves of those same spirits who worked for them ,when they were living.And after their deaths, how many years woudl tehy hav tow ork for them ?Not 10, 10 or 50, but between 1000 to 1500 to 2000 years.)> > I would like to know from which scriptures you have got proof of this or its just your own opinion> > Regards,> Pragathi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Hi friends, Taranam iti Tantram(Which will help you to come out of troubles, In Hindu religion it will give the way to Moksham). There are many tantras are there in HINDU and BUDDHA religions. In Hindu we have "Rudrayamala Purva Tantram" , which said to be first and ancient to Vedas also. Which gives Pasupathastram and many mantras. We have more than thousands(only in Hindu religion). But for anything about tantras you need GURU. Please note dnt follow books. If it is the case you can have many publishers like caukhamba, Varanasi, motilal bansi das mumbai. Deepti publications Agra. etc.. Thank you Narasimha --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Tantra Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 1:13 AM Dear Pragathi ji, There is nothing to agree upon this. Everyone knows that Tantra is powerful. Over a period of 30 years experience one meets many people and reads many books. Whatever one mentions it is not possible to waste time in searching for relevant scriptures and give proof for ones statements to one and everybody, especially on the Net where it will not seve any tangible purpose or gains of any kind, except wastage of time. That was not my opnion. You may read a small pocket book available from Gita Press costing Rs.2- which will give you the scriptures names in details about what I have mentioned. But I dont have the energy to go back and search for this pocket books name, if you ask me. How this knowledge anyway going to serve in our day to day living ? Then, if its not going to serve any purpose in day to day living, then you may ask, why I have mentioend all this ? I have mentioned all this only so that the untrained may keep away from Tantra and not dabble with it, which is my only purpose for these small write-ups. I am not avilable any more to write on this subject. best wishes, Bhaskar. an_astrology, "pragathi" <jinaspice@.. .> wrote:>> Hello Bhaskarji,> > Thanks for your thoughts and views about tantra.> > So you agree tantra is powerful.> > But you have mentioned certain points> > (meet a very deadly death, and after their deaths will have to remain> slaves of those same spirits who worked for them ,when they were living.And after their deaths, how many years woudl tehy hav tow ork for them ?Not 10, 10 or 50, but between 1000 to 1500 to 2000 years.)> > I would like to know from which scriptures you have got proof of this or its just your own opinion> > Regards,> Pragathi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Hello Bhaskarji, Thank you for your valuable time again. You mentioned that discussing this topic is waste of time. But sir this issue as caused a wreck in my career. Being a tarot card reader i have 99% clients coming up and asking me whether someone as done black magic on them, whether the things are happening bcos of tantra. I know things happen bcos of bad dasha or own doings but cannot confidently say this bcos i dont know whether there is influence of black magic. A lady came to me who as not concieved from last 10 years. There is pitru dosh in horoscope i have told her the remedy but she says that someone did black magic on her father and he did not concieve a child for 5 yrs after the black magic removed he concieved a child immediately. what answer should i give these people??? i am tongue tied..... so i want to know whether tantra interferes with the destiny and can really it create such blockages or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Hello Pragathi ji, Yes, Tantra in the hands of wrong person can create blockages. How you can help your clients and how to know whether black magic has been done on them, is for you to ask your Teacher who taught you Tarot Card readings. I have not done this course, though I wish to do so, but do not find enough spare time. So I cannot answer. Why dont you join some Tarot Groups. There are hundreds of them on . I am a member of at least 5-7 of them, though I dont write there. You too can join and put this query there- " How to know through Tantra whether black Magic has been done on somebody ? " regards, Bhaskar. , " pragathi " <jinaspice wrote: > > Hello Bhaskarji, > > Thank you for your valuable time again. > > You mentioned that discussing this topic is waste of time. But sir this issue as caused a wreck in my career. > > Being a tarot card reader i have 99% clients coming up and asking me whether someone as done black magic on them, whether the things are happening bcos of tantra. > > I know things happen bcos of bad dasha or own doings but cannot confidently say this bcos i dont know whether there is influence of black magic. > > A lady came to me who as not concieved from last 10 years. There is pitru dosh in horoscope i have told her the remedy but she says that someone did black magic on her father and he did not concieve a child for 5 yrs after the black magic removed he concieved a child immediately. > > what answer should i give these people??? i am tongue tied..... > > so i want to know whether tantra interferes with the destiny and can really it create such blockages or not > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Sorry, re-read this as - "How to know through Tarot whether black Magic has been done on somebody ?" regards/Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Hello Pragathi ji,> > Yes, Tantra in the hands of wrong person can create blockages.> > How you can help your clients and how to know whether black magic has> been done on them, is for you to ask your Teacher who taught you Tarot> Card readings. I have not done this course, though I wish to do so, but> do not find enough spare time. So I cannot answer.> > Why dont you join some Tarot Groups. There are hundreds of them on> . I am a member of at least 5-7 of them, though I dont write there.> You too can join and put this query there- "How to know through Tantra> whether black Magic has been done on somebody ?"> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "pragathi"> jinaspice@ wrote:> >> > Hello Bhaskarji,> >> > Thank you for your valuable time again.> >> > You mentioned that discussing this topic is waste of time. But sir> this issue as caused a wreck in my career.> >> > Being a tarot card reader i have 99% clients coming up and asking me> whether someone as done black magic on them, whether the things are> happening bcos of tantra.> >> > I know things happen bcos of bad dasha or own doings but cannot> confidently say this bcos i dont know whether there is influence of> black magic.> >> > A lady came to me who as not concieved from last 10 years. There is> pitru dosh in horoscope i have told her the remedy but she says that> someone did black magic on her father and he did not concieve a child> for 5 yrs after the black magic removed he concieved a child> immediately.> >> > what answer should i give these people??? i am tongue tied.....> >> > so i want to know whether tantra interferes with the destiny and can> really it create such blockages or not> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Thank you for answering my query. But unfortunately i have not found the answer. , " J.B.S.L. Narasimha Rao " <narsimha6 wrote: > > Hi friends, > Taranam iti Tantram(Which will help you to come out of troubles, In Hindu religion it will give the way to Moksham). > There are many tantras are there in HINDU and BUDDHA religions. > In Hindu we have " Rudrayamala Purva Tantram " , which said to be first and ancient to Vedas also. Which gives Pasupathastram and many mantras. We have more than thousands(only in Hindu religion). But for anything about tantras you need GURU. > Please note dnt follow books. If it is the case you can have many publishers like caukhamba, Varanasi, motilal bansi das mumbai. Deepti publications Agra. etc.. > Thank you > Narasimha > > > --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Tantra > > Monday, May 4, 2009, 1:13 AM > > > Dear Pragathi ji, > There is nothing to agree upon this. Everyone knows that Tantra is powerful. > Over a period of 30 years experience one meets many people and reads many books. Whatever one mentions it is not possible to waste time in searching for relevant scriptures and give proof for ones statements to one and everybody, especially on the Net where it will not seve any tangible purpose or gains of any kind, except wastage of time. > That was not my opnion. You may read a small pocket book available from Gita Press costing Rs.2- which will give you the scriptures names in details about what I have mentioned. But I dont have the energy to go back and search for this pocket books name, if you ask me. > How this knowledge anyway going to serve in our day to day living ? > Then, if its not going to serve any purpose in day to day living, then you may ask, why I have mentioend all this ? I have mentioned all this only so that the untrained may keep away from Tantra and not dabble with it, which is my only purpose for these small write-ups. > I am not avilable any more to write on this subject. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > an_astrology, " pragathi " <jinaspice@ .> wrote: > > > > Hello Bhaskarji, > > > > Thanks for your thoughts and views about tantra. > > > > So you agree tantra is powerful. > > > > But you have mentioned certain points > > > > (meet a very deadly death, and after their deaths will have to remain > > slaves of those same spirits who worked for them ,when they were living.And after their deaths, how many years woudl tehy hav tow ork for them ?Not 10, 10 or 50, but between 1000 to 1500 to 2000 years.) > > > > I would like to know from which scriptures you have got proof of this or its just your own opinion > > > > Regards, > > Pragathi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 In my opinion : Tantra is mechanism. Important to note with what Bhava it is done. Any shade of ego involved will make you indulge in to satisfy some want or the other. Any "hetu" will create problems as discussed by many. If no "hetu" you do not need to indulge in it. Classic catch - 22 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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