] Test of tropical versus sidere al zodiac

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Dear chakraborty ji I think u miss read the whole topic here there is no question of western astrology or vedic astrology which is correct where as what is happening is some one who says he is vedic astrologer and wanted to adopt tropical zodiac for applying vedic astrology principles and he dont hav any valid textual ,sastraic or own exprnce support to claim such arguemnt other than some misunderstanding of texts so i was pointing out the flaws in this approach Hope u got the point rgrds sunil nair , CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Boaz and other friends,> > I have seen the debate about sidereal and tropical astrology crops up from> time to time.> > The debate generally revolves about different stance taken by the followers.> These are generally :> > Sidereal is correct vs Tropical is correct. > Sidereal is more accurate vs Tropical is more accurate.> > To decide in favor of any side (sidereal or tropical), the judge must be > supremely knowledgeable and skilled in both the sidereal and tropical> astrology. Alas, it is difficult to find such Judges who would really> bother> to spend his precious time on this topic.> > Let us accept that both system follows the planetary movement and draws> inference from that. The frame of reference is different. It is like having> two> different observatories... both are seeing from their own vantage point and> arriving at some conclusions. > > I have noticed that both Sidereal and Tropical Astrologers give stunning > predictions... both systems have large following... SO how can be any one> of them be wrong ? And any verification of any system would need some > thousands of charts .... few hundreds of charts will not be enough.> > regards> > Chakraborty> > > > > zaobnali [zaob16]> Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:19 AM> > Re: Test of tropical versus sidereal> zodiac> > > > > > Hello, > > I think it is important to understand conceptually what the rasis mean. The> rasis, for example, have certain qualities, mobile, fixed and mutable, as> well as the four elements. These qualities 3x4 = 12 rasis. The Sun sets> these qualities in motion and the tropical zodiac is Sun based. The moveable> signs Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn coincide with the solstices and> equinoxes. In addition it turns out that the ancient scripts actually seem> to suggest that the rishis used the tropical zodiac (see Ernst's article on> Ayanamsha). It may be that the sidereal zodiac will eventually be proven> correct but we can not ignore the tropical zodiac and the reasoning behind,> which is why such studies are important. > > Thanks> Boaz > > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya@> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > The positions of all the nine grahas in the Tropical Zodiac are> ayanamsha-corrected in the Sidereal Zodiac. So this means the a reoriented> Tropical Ziodiac fits in the Sidereal Zodiac and the interaction between the> grahas based on the angles relative to each other are the same in both the> Zodiacs. On top of it the Sidereal Zodiac takes into account the additional> effects of the Nakshatras. So in my opinion the Sidereal predictions are> bound to be more precise.> > > > Regards,> > > > Sunl K. Bhattacharjya> > > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, zaobnali zaob16@ wrote:> > > > > > zaobnali zaob16@> > Test of tropical versus sidereal> zodiac> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology > > Friday, May 15, 2009, 4:27 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Glad to join this forum.> > > > Vedic astrologer Ersnt Wilhelm is conducting a statistical query to> determine which of the zodiacs - tropical or sidereal - works better. Those> of you who are interested and have an accurate time of birth are encouraged> to fill out the test. Ernst reports that test 2 is showing some quite> rewarding results. So far more than 378 people have taken the test and> results are consistently aligning with the same calculations on all three> questions, which is quite exciting. Hopefully a few hundred more people will> take the test over the weekend and then he can reveal the results to you> all. > > > > http://www.isjyotis <http://www.isjyotis> h.com/> > > > Thanks,> > Boaz> >> > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.>