Fwd: Sarvatobhadra Chakra

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Dear respected Members of this grp .here is a discussion on sarvathobhadrachakra ###############Sarvatobhadra Chakra should never be used for wrong purposes and with

self interests, otherwise it destroys the user. I avoid using this

Chakra-raaja in individual horoscopy########################I use Sarvatobhadra Chakra ONLY in mundane astrology because in

individual horoscopy it is most dangerous Tantric chakra which often

boomerangs if wrongly used. I apologize for analyzing such a chart

which is not worth discussing in public. But I posted this message for

the use of good intentioned lovers of astrology who may benefit.#####################Can u enlighten us is sarvathobhadra chakra can b used in natal charts .rgrds prashanth Nair vedic astrology , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:To All :Here I am offereing a case study of Sarvatobhadra Chakra for real lovers of Jyotisha.Jignesh Shah and Neha Shah, esp the latter, are unnecessarily harassing and abusing me for my unwillingness to analyze Jignesh's chart. When they launched an abusing campaign for my refusal to predict Jignesh's marriage, I became curious as to why these persons are so impatient and insolent, and sent them an analysis of current MD and AD which are bad, and of D9 in which MD planet is sitting in 8th house. I was answered with abuses by Neha who is not even half my age ! Neha Shah does not know that problems in marriage must be related to bad conditions related to 7th house in D1, D9 and current dashaa, and accused be of lying ! A good response for a free reading ! I had asked Jignesh why he is curious about Sarvatobhadra Chakra for fixing marriage. Being abused again and again by these fellows, I became curious and analyzed the chart of Jignesh. His varsha-pravesh chart has both MD and AD planets Jup and Sat in 12th and 8th respectively. In D1, Mars is in Lagna and is lord of 2nd and 7th houses. Jnaati-kaaraka Sun and Venus are in bad conditions. But most noteworthy fact is lord of 12th house Mercury sitting with Sun in 12th house in raashi chart, together with MD and AD planets Jup and Sat. See BPHS (Brihat Parashara Hora Shaastra, Chowkhamba edition) chapter 24, verse 9 , which says such a yoga leads to Naraka (Hell). Since Mercury is stronger than Sun, being in its own sign, Mercury will prepare the road to Hell. In Sarvatobhadra Chakra, two letters are viddha (pierced) by Mercury : T and N. Hence, Persons whose name begins with either T or N will the road to Hell for Jignesh. Neha Shah thinks a person facing difficulties in marriage should have good7th house in D1 and good D9 ! If these charts were bad, it meansmarriage will be hindered. But she accused me of lying, and called me names ("moron, nervous wreck") for my not telling a good date for marriage. Why Neha (shahnehainc or Neha Shan Inc.) is so impatient for marriage of Jignesh Shah ?This Naraka-yoga will happen in dashaas of Mercury, Sun, Jupiter and Saturn which are all sitting together. Since MD of Jupiter still has 13 years left, Jup-Sat-Merc will continue till the end of his active life. Jup is lord of 7th in D9 and is MD planet. Merc is lord of D9 and is sitting in 3rd house, and is piercing a person of name N who has relation by dint of subject matter of 3rd house (I do not want to be more explicit here).Normally, I neglect such charts. Instead of propitiating their bad planets and repenting before God, these persons abuse me, which is not going to save them form Hell. Jignesh Shah has Venus as lord of 8th house, which suggests some hope.Sarvatobhadra Chakra should never be used for wrong purposes and with self interests, otherwise it destroys the user. I avoid using this Chakra-raaja in individual horoscopy, and was compelled by Neha Shah against my will to analyze this chart. I use Sarvatobhadra Chakra ONLY in mundane astrology because in individual horoscopy it is most dangerous Tantric chakra which often boomerangs if wrongly used. I apologize for analyzing such a chart which is not worth discussing in public. But I posted this message for the use of good intentioned lovers of astrology who may benefit. I pray Jignesh Shah should get the inner strength to propitiate his planets, change his course and get rid of all 'N's and 'T' in his life. Venus in 8th may enable him to lead a pious life if influences of Merc-Sun-Jup-Sat are overcome through a saatvika life. I hope Neha Shah will believe in my word that I never lie, she in unnessarily abusing me. I do not care for her abuses, but it will harm her and not me.Sincerely,-Vinay Jha================= ======________________________________shahnehainc shahnehaincTo: vedic astrology Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:09:55 PM[vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra ChakraVinayji !!!"I enquiredabout only the house of spouse, and did not waste my time over other aspects." Do you call this responsible astrological predictions ? ? ?vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:>> I expected abuses from a person like you. If I stoop to your level, I will be punished by Him and you will escape what you deserve.> > Thanks for your abuses. I fight back only when shaastra is abused. Otherwise praises and abuses have no difference for me.> > You will never know that I sincerely and honestly wrote what I felt to be true. If truth and sincerity is abused, there is no hope for redemption. I enquired about only the house of spouse, and did not waste my time over other aspects. Wwhy should I enquire whether a person is male or female or a hermaphrodite ? > > > -VJ> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ ...>> vedic astrology> Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:22:03 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > > > > > and Yes, marriage at 29 maybe is really important for him. You think just cuz you stayed a bachelor, ppl also should think at your level? what a joke of nature you are!!> > And please take my words in lighter vein and I dont mean any offense > > anyways, I can block morons like you. No need to waste my time on educating nervous wrecks like you.> > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > wrote:> > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ >> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> vedic astrology> Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:46 PM> > Mr. Vinay Jha,> > Now I see why people abuse you! BTW, I am not an 'IT' as you called, I am a female and has nothing to do with astrology. And FYI, if you hadnt noticed, I was actually complimenting you in my reply . But guess you have the very fine capability of misunderstanding people and jumping to wrong conclusions (like in this case) and abusing them or ill-treating them. No wonder people abuse you. First before becoming a guru or something, learn to behave well with people and try to understand what they are saying. Try not to jump and take negative meaning out of everything people say.> > And as far as my mail went, I was trying to clear out the misunderstanding you had about the other person (though its none of my business, still I wanted to help that person out in getting a reading from you since he assumed you are "good" astrologer). . That's the only thing I was doing. Why would I even accuse you or abuse you? I dont even know ur name for Godssake!> > And btw, I dont need to use fake IDs, this is the only ID I use in this group. Please check our my earlier mails if you have any "time".> > Knowledge isnt important. You dont gain respect if you have knowledge or if you think you have knowledge. You gain respect if you act cool and neutral to people without jumping to negative conclusions of whatever they say. Got it?> > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> vedic astrology> Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 6:26 AM> > Fighting without reason !!> > ____________ _________ _________ __> kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >> vedic astrology> Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:32:24 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > Now I find almost ALL the astro groups to be an AKHAADA!!! LOLzzzzzzzzzzz> > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ > wrote:> > shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ >> [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> vedic astrology> Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 2:54 AM> > Vinayji,> > Just chill !! I never told you that I am a girl .. but somehow by my id you were under that impression. And I never harrassed you but instead was quiet well kind to request you ... it was unto you to reply me or not.> > Its not that the only software that is 100% correct is yours as per your site. You claim it to be and I wanted to test it, but alis you just are not ready to even participate in the exam ... > > It was you who replied to my query on Sarvatobhadra Chakra and it was not intended that you only should have replied it. I wasnt even aware that the so renowned Mr Vinay has developed such a masterpiece software dealing with Sarvatobhadra Chakra.> > So Mr. Vinay just understand what has been written and who has wrote it.> > May God Bless you ...> > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:> >> > Kiran ji,> > > > I am amused at the "serenity" of guessworks by this person with fake ID (serenity forever). I do not know whether this member is "he' or "she", hence I guess this member must be "it" (If "it" has a right to make guessworks, cannot I do the same?). "It" assumed me to be a practising astrologer, without trying to read past messages in this thread (or ignored them), one of which said :> > > > <<< I am a software developer, getting little time for other works. If you learn astrology and pose questions about astrological topics, I may try to find time to answer. Otherwise, I check only those horoscopes which belong to persons in serious troubles. >>>> > > > I got following reply : "A situation in anyone's life may not sound too serious to you."> > > > This person Jignesh Patel is only less than 29 years old, yet not being married is "too serious" a problem for him! I meant serious life threatening problems related to diseases or sccidents. Marriage is a normal phenomenon, and 29 is not beyond the limit of marriable age. According to Vedic Jyotisha, 120 is the full age of humans, and its quarter is 30, hence Jignesh Patel should not dream of marrying and should maintain brahmacharya for 16 months more, and attend to studies which is the duty of first Ashrama.> > > > Softwares developers are not harassed for horoscope analyses. These members do not know how much time is needed in constant updating of softwares. Jignesh Patel downloaded my software, but is not interested or proficient in using it, and is interested only in Sarvatobhadra Chakra (perhaps because Mr Shyam Kansal had reported 5 months ago that my free Kundalee software deals with Sarvatobhadramore exhaustively than all other softwares. Why Mr Jigneash Patel is interested in Sarvatobhadra for getting married ? Will he find the name of his would be spouse ?> > > > I hope my response will be taken in a light vein, and not as an offence.> > > > -Vinay JHa> > ============ ====== =====> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ ...>> > vedic astrology> > Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:17:44 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > > > > > > > > > > > Lolzzzzzzzzzzz. ..khoob kahi.......plz don't mind Vinayji...U R as respectable to me as the others but this serenity fellow sure has some gud sense of humor!! take light heartedly ...okayy!!!!> > > > --- On Tue, 5/19/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > wrote:> > > > serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ >> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > vedic astrology> > Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 5:37 PM> > > > I guess that guy is only asking you to "predict" the marriage, not arrange for him. Guess marriage predictions are also part of astrological predictions, if I am not wrong. Maybe he thought you are competent enough and hence approached you for prediction purpose. How wise it would be for a practicing physician who vowed not to marry, to not attend to any of the female patients? Do you see any possible rational explanation behind that? If you offer some services (within the limited time you have), guess you should offer all of what the science has to offer (as far as your knowledge goes).> > > > --- On Tue, 5/19/09, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:> > > > vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >> > [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > vedic astrology> > Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 11:36 AM> > > > You are a strange person ! Is it proper to compel a person who renounced> > worldliness and never married himself to arrange for marriage of others> > ? Do you know the meaning of sanyaasa /> > > > -VJ> > ============ == ==> > vedic astrology, "shahnehainc" <shahnehainc@ ...>> > wrote:> > >> > > Vinayji,> > >> > > Regards ! ! !> > >> > > A situation in anyone's life may not sound too serious to you. It will> > be kind of you to reply my earlier message as your kindness today may I> > reflect to some other in future.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Jignesh Patel> > >> > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Jignesh Patel Ji,> > > >> > > > I am a lifelong brahmachaari, which I do not want to announce but> > persons like you force me proclaim it.> > > >> > > > Besides, I am a software developer, getting little time for other> > works. If you learn astrology and pose questions about astrological> > topics, I may try to find time to answer. Otherwise, I check only those> > horoscopes which belong to persons in serious troubles.> > > >> > > > -VJ> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > shahnehainc shahnehainc@> > > > vedic astrology> > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:39:44 PM> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Vinayji,> > > >> > > > I have successfully installed the 1DevMithila font and the software> > is working fine. Thankyou.> > > >> > > > But, I am a new student of astrology and I am not finding it easy to> > use Sarvatobhadra Chakra.> > > >> > > > Can you please help me in predicting about my marriage. My details> > are as under:> > > > BD: 21/09/1980> > > > BP: Indore, MP> > > > BT: 10:17 AM> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Jignesh Patel> > > >> > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@> > ....> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > shahnehaincji,> > > > >> > > > > The help file on Sarvatobhadra in Kundalee is in Hindi for which> > you will have to install 1DevMithila. ttf font . This file contains> > nothing new, it is a logical presentation of the ancient text> > Narapatijayacharyaa which you can buy from Chowkhamba publishers> > (Sanskrit original with Hindi commentary).> > > > >> > > > > What problem you have in operating Kundalee ? If you specify the> > problems, maybe I could suggest something.> > > > >> > > > > -VJ> > > > >> > > > > ============ == ====> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...>> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:55:34 AM> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Vinayji,> > > > >> > > > > I have downloaded Kundalee software but the help file is not> > working in my PC. I have vista as operating system. Can you please give> > me pdf file for the same.> > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@> > ....> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Kundalee software (Click) has not only detailes Sarvatobhadra> > chakra for birthtime as well as for desired time, but also help files> > for learning it fully.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > shahnehainc <shahnehainc@ ...>> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:16:01 PM> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Sarvatobhadra Chakra> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sirji, will anyone teach me details of Sarvatobhadra Chakra . .> > ..> > > > > > Actually, I am new to learning astrology and want to learn> > Sarvatobhadra Chakra . . .