Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Respected members: The following could be from a science fiction but it is possible it may happen in the next 50-100 years. A pregnant woman gets on a space ship and goes to the moon and delivers the baby there. After some time, when it is safe for the baby to travel both the mother and baby come back to the earth. Now here is the question; how will the chart for the baby look like? At the first blush, it seems to me that the moon’s position will become the Ascendant and everything else will remain the same (?). The baby will be growing and living like everybody else in this world but will have the essential moon, which effects our mind among other things, missing in the chart. Possible solution can be- treat the Asc as the moon and make all predictions from it. It will be like a chart where the Asc and the moon are exactly in the same degree- to the micro second. Any comments? Regards Anantha Krishnan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Dear Anantha Krishnan ji, Thanks for bringing in a new point for discussion. Actually this point was introduced in this group by Vernalagnia ji earlier, and a good amount of discussion took place. You can find the same in the achieves. Now coming to your mail - I would say that - you are wrong. If the boy took birth in a space ship, then the following points will have to be considered - 1) While the birth is in earth the Asc indicate the angle of rotation of earth (based on horizon-equator intersection), while in space since there is no horizon-equator intersection the concept of Asc will have to be dropped. But Earth as a planet would be very important and will have to be assigned most importance in the chart (more than Moon), since the native's life is associated with earth itself. Possibly most of the significance we assign to Asc will have to be transfered to planet Earth for this reason. 2) Horoscope is concerned with the study of the rhythm destiny (of time and future) as INDICATED by the planetary movements around the place of birth or movements around any significant moment related to that native. This means that - * The planetary movements around the place of birth (space location) can be considered to cast the natal chart (if we want to cast a natal chart), and predict based on the same. Also note that in this case we will have to modify the astrological rules of interpretation as well to an extend, since the rhythm around that space-point itself is different from as experienced from earth. * As an alternative, we can take any significant moment of life (like moment of landing on earth, marriage etc) of that native in earth and cast a chart and predict his future based on the same, using our current astrological principals itself. (I will prefer this second option, since that is easy to apply). So the point that came to light is that - astrology is universal, but you will have to adapt yourself and your rules to suit the situation. As of now we are like frogs in a well called earth, and our astrological rules localized versions to suit the earth situation as of now. If you want to solar systemaized (birth in space ship within solar system) or universalized (birth in space ship beyond solar system), then you will have to solar systamize, or universalize the rules or to prepare the localized versions to suit the locations under consideration. The whole point that comes light is NOT the limitation of astrology, but of our own. Hope this clarifies. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote: > > Respected members: > > The following could be from a science fiction but it is > possible it may happen in the next 50-100 years. A pregnant woman gets on a space > ship and goes to the moon and delivers the baby there. After some time, when it > is safe for the baby to travel both the mother and baby come back to the earth. > Now here is the question; how will the chart for the baby look like?  > >  > > At the first blush, it seems to me that the moon’s position > will become the Ascendant and everything else will remain the same (?). > >  > > The baby will be growing and living like everybody else in > this world but will have the essential moon, which effects our mind among other > things, missing in the chart. Possible solution can be- treat the Asc as the > moon and make all predictions from it. It will be like a chart where the Asc and the moon are exactly in the same degree- to the micro second. > > >  > > Any comments? > > Regards > > Anantha  Krishnan > > > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji:Thanks for your input. I will go into the archives and get more information with regards to this.Regards,anantha krishnan--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Futuristic problem Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 1:54 AM Dear Anantha Krishnan ji, Thanks for bringing in a new point for discussion. Actually this point was introduced in this group by Vernalagnia ji earlier, and a good amount of discussion took place. You can find the same in the achieves. Now coming to your mail - I would say that - you are wrong. If the boy took birth in a space ship, then the following points will have to be considered - 1) While the birth is in earth the Asc indicate the angle of rotation of earth (based on horizon-equator intersection) , while in space since there is no horizon-equator intersection the concept of Asc will have to be dropped. But Earth as a planet would be very important and will have to be assigned most importance in the chart (more than Moon), since the native's life is associated with earth itself. Possibly most of the significance we assign to Asc will have to be transfered to planet Earth for this reason. 2) Horoscope is concerned with the study of the rhythm destiny (of time and future) as INDICATED by the planetary movements around the place of birth or movements around any significant moment related to that native. This means that - * The planetary movements around the place of birth (space location) can be considered to cast the natal chart (if we want to cast a natal chart), and predict based on the same. Also note that in this case we will have to modify the astrological rules of interpretation as well to an extend, since the rhythm around that space-point itself is different from as experienced from earth. * As an alternative, we can take any significant moment of life (like moment of landing on earth, marriage etc) of that native in earth and cast a chart and predict his future based on the same, using our current astrological principals itself. (I will prefer this second option, since that is easy to apply). So the point that came to light is that - astrology is universal, but you will have to adapt yourself and your rules to suit the situation. As of now we are like frogs in a well called earth, and our astrological rules localized versions to suit the earth situation as of now. If you want to solar systemaized (birth in space ship within solar system) or universalized (birth in space ship beyond solar system), then you will have to solar systamize, or universalize the rules or to prepare the localized versions to suit the locations under consideration. The whole point that comes light is NOT the limitation of astrology, but of our own. Hope this clarifies. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_ 98 wrote: > > Respected members: > > The following could be from a science fiction but it is > possible it may happen in the next 50-100 years. A pregnant woman gets on a space > ship and goes to the moon and delivers the baby there. After some time, when it > is safe for the baby to travel both the mother and baby come back to the earth. > Now here is the question; how will the chart for the baby look like?  > >  > > At the first blush, it seems to me that the moon’s position > will become the Ascendant and everything else will remain the same (?). > >  > > The baby will be growing and living like everybody else in > this world but will have the essential moon, which effects our mind among other > things, missing in the chart. Possible solution can be- treat the Asc as the > moon and make all predictions from it. It will be like a chart where the Asc and the moon are exactly in the same degree- to the micro second. > > >  > > Any comments? > > Regards > > Anantha  Krishnan > > > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Dear Ananta Krishnan ji, Along with this question another similar question (on retro-lagna) was raised by Vernalagnia ji in this group earlier. A clean record of that conversation you can find at: AIA Website: Retro LagnaLove and regards,Sreenadh , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji:> Thanks for your input. I will go into the archives and get more information with regards to this.> Regards,> anantha krishnan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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