your comments on parivartan (exchange of houses)

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Justcoolout,

 

I have not been active until recently so I am not sure what the suggested

procedure is, but, in my humble opinion, you always have to look at the complete

chart. So please give your birth info instead of planet locations. Dashas are

what unleash your karma. Static analysis does not always help to make sense.

 

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

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justcoolout <justcoolout

 

Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:18:54 AM

your comments on parivartan (exchange of

houses)

 

 

 

 

 

learned members

i seek your comments on a sun,mars exchange happening in my chart

 

details i am having mesha lagna .

mangal,rahu, guru in 5th house

sun in 8th house

thus a parivartan is happening in between my 5th and 8th house

what will be the effects of this parivartana on my life

 

one more intersting thing both sun,mars are in debility in navmansha.

 

and also there's one more parivartan yoga happening in navmansha between mercury

and venus.mercury in 10th house in vrishabh and venus in 11th house in gemini..

i am really confused with regards to the analysis of this exchange happening in

my chart.

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dear manoj chandran ji and cool out ji Only discussions are allowed here and no chart reading sso discuss abt the exchange yogas and the nativs may find it helpfull,also it will help all .This forum is formed to discuss astrology only .for more detailed personal analysis always better to consult professionals in this field and avail their services so u all r welcome to strt ur discussion,also refer archives ,as there is lot of such discussions happened many times b4 too .rgrds sunil nair , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Justcoolout,> > I have not been active until recently so I am not sure what the suggested procedure is, but, in my humble opinion, you always have to look at the complete chart. So please give your birth info instead of planet locations. Dashas are what unleash your karma. Static analysis does not always help to make sense.> > -Manoj> > > > > ________________________________> justcoolout justcoolout > Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:18:54 AM> your comments on parivartan (exchange of houses)> > > > > > learned members> i seek your comments on a sun,mars exchange happening in my chart> > details i am having mesha lagna .> mangal,rahu, guru in 5th house> sun in 8th house> thus a parivartan is happening in between my 5th and 8th house> what will be the effects of this parivartana on my life> > one more intersting thing both sun,mars are in debility in navmansha.> > and also there's one more parivartan yoga happening in navmansha between mercury and venus.mercury in 10th house in vrishabh and venus in 11th house in gemini..> i am really confused with regards to the analysis of this exchange happening in my chart.>

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Dear Cool Out ji, Sunil Ji,

 

My only point was to have a detailed discussion we need to have all the facts. I am also not interested in chart reading, only discussion, but, some times it is difficult without having all the facts. I understand the rules now.

 

Cool Out ji,

 

In this case obviously the parivartan is a difficult one. Whenever there is an exchange with a dusthana, the result is always mixed. In my experience what usually happens is that the dusthana lord gives the negative experiences to the positive house and lord and in turn it "grabs" the "positives" of the other house. In this case Mars brings the Eight house themes to the 5th house and in turn receives the positive 5th house themes and brings them to the Eighth house. So in general it can be expected that Eighth house themes of Sudden interruptions, dramatic endings (and beginnings), long term chronic conditions etc to the 5th house domain of Children, Creativivity, Education, Romance etc. In return the 5th lord Sun brings the more positive 5th house themes and help the 8th house issues like interest in Astrology, Psychic matters, Partners Wealth, Longevity etc.

 

One interesting effect of this parivartan is that while Sun is in the difficult 8th house, its parivartan helps it to connect with Guru who is in the 5th house. So even though there is not this direct aspect from Guru, Sun is still helped in some way which is helpful. So it is a mixed bag. Hope that helps.

 

Debility in Navamsha unfortunately hurts both planets since it weakens them. Especially Mars the 8th lord deb in Navamsha has potential to do significant harm. Conjuction with Guru is a saving grace, especially a Guru placed in the 5th house. However, Guru being the 12th lord is not completely benevolent although the 9th lordship should dominate due to the Mulatrikon ownership of Sagittarius over Pisces, so you have that going on as well. Sun debilitated in Navamsha can affect the health of the father adversly in its period, especially if the dasha/antar of Mars is involved. Being the 5th lord, ofcourse it could affect 5th matters as well.

 

-Manoj

 

 

 

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:49:23 AM Re: your comments on parivartan (exchange of houses)

 

dear manoj chandran ji and cool out ji Only discussions are allowed here and no chart reading sso discuss abt the exchange yogas and the nativs may find it helpfull,also it will help all .This forum is formed to discuss astrology only .for more detailed personal analysis always better to consult professionals in this field and avail their services so u all r welcome to strt ur discussion,also refer archives ,as there is lot of such discussions happened many times b4 too .rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Justcoolout,> > I have not been active until recently so I am not sure what the suggested procedure is, but, in my humble opinion, you always have to look at

the complete chart. So please give your birth info instead of planet locations. Dashas are what unleash your karma. Static analysis does not always help to make sense.> > -Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> justcoolout justcoolout@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology> Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:18:54 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] your comments on parivartan (exchange of houses)> > > > > > learned members> i seek your comments on a sun,mars exchange happening in my chart> > details i am having mesha lagna .> mangal,rahu, guru in 5th house> sun in 8th house> thus a parivartan is happening in between my 5th and 8th house> what will be the effects of this parivartana on my life> > one more intersting thing both sun,mars are

in debility in navmansha.> > and also there's one more parivartan yoga happening in navmansha between mercury and venus.mercury in 10th house in vrishabh and venus in 11th house in gemini..> i am really confused with regards to the analysis of this exchange happening in my chart.>

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, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Cool Out ji, Sunil Ji,

>

> My only point was to have a detailed discussion we need to have all the facts.

I am also not interested in chart reading, only discussion, but, some times it

is difficult without having all the facts. I understand the rules now.

>

> Cool Out ji,

>

> In this case obviously the parivartan is a difficult one. Whenever there is an

exchange with a dusthana, the result is always mixed. In my experience what

usually happens is that the dusthana lord gives the negative experiences to the

positive house and lord and in turn it " grabs " the " positives " of the other

house. In this case Mars brings the Eight house themes to the 5th house and in

turn receives the positive 5th house themes and brings them to the Eighth house.

So in general it can be expected that Eighth house themes of Sudden

interruptions, dramatic endings (and beginnings), long term chronic conditions

etc to the 5th house domain of Children, Creativivity, Education, Romance etc.

In return the 5th lord Sun brings the more positive 5th house themes and help

the 8th house issues like interest in Astrology, Psychic matters, Partners

Wealth,  Longevity etc.

>

> One interesting effect of this parivartan is that while Sun is in the

difficult 8th house, its parivartan helps it to connect with Guru who is in the

5th house. So even though there is not this direct aspect from Guru, Sun is

still helped in some way which is helpful. So it is a mixed bag. Hope that

helps.

>

> Debility in Navamsha unfortunately hurts both planets since it weakens them.

Especially Mars the 8th lord deb in Navamsha has potential to do significant

harm. Conjuction with Guru is a saving grace, especially a Guru placed in the

5th house. However, Guru being the 12th lord is not completely benevolent

although the 9th lordship should dominate due to the Mulatrikon ownership of

Sagittarius over Pisces, so you have that going on as well. Sun debilitated in

Navamsha can affect the health of the father adversly in its period, especially

if the dasha/antar of Mars is involved. Being the 5th lord, ofcourse it could

affect 5th matters as well.

>

> -Manoj

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

>

> Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:49:23 AM

> Re: your comments on parivartan (exchange

of houses)

dear manoj chandran ji and cool out ji

>

>   Only discussions are allowed here and no chart reading s

>

> so discuss abt the exchange yogas and the nativs may find it helpfull,also it

will help all .This forum is formed to discuss astrology only .

>

> for more detailed personal analysis always better to consult professionals in

this field and avail their services

>

> so u  all r  welcome to strt ur discussion,also refer archives ,as there is

lot of  such discussions happened many times b4 too .

>

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Justcoolout,

> >

> > I have not been active until recently so I am not sure what the suggested

procedure is, but, in my humble opinion, you always have to look at the complete

chart. So please give your birth info instead of planet locations. Dashas are

what unleash your karma. Static analysis does not always help to make sense.

> >

> > -Manoj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > justcoolout justcoolout@ ...

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:18:54 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] your comments on parivartan (exchange

of houses)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > learned members

> > i seek your comments on a sun,mars exchange happening in my chart

> >

> > details i am having mesha lagna .

> > mangal,rahu, guru in 5th house

> > sun in 8th house

> > thus a parivartan is happening in between my 5th and 8th house

> > what will be the effects of this parivartana on my life

> >

> > one more intersting thing both sun,mars are in debility in navmansha.

> >

> > and also there's one more parivartan yoga happening in navmansha between

mercury and venus.mercury in 10th house in vrishabh and venus in 11th house in

gemini..

> > i am really confused with regards to the analysis of this exchange happening

in my chart.

> >

>

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thanks manoj ji for ur inputs,as sunil nairji has told that this group is for

analysing fine prints of this wonderful ocean named 'jyotisha',i have sent my

details to u on msngr.

Yep Manojji you are bang on target i have lots of regrets in the fields relating

to 5th house especially studies and romance...

since 5th and 8th are involved there is some also sort of some intutitional

streak within me.

i have ths feel that exchange between 5th and 8th can lead to some unexpected

windfall gains,especially from stock mkts or inheritance or any other way.please

correct me if i am wrong,also your opinion that guru in 5th house has the

potential of being qa saviour in otherwise not a good exchange between a trikona

and a dusthana..to add to that guru is vargottam in navmannsha and also placed

in the lagna sthan in navmansha

regards

Deepen Thakkar