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Respected Sh. Sunil Nair ji,

 

Very nice reply. I appreciate your wisdom.

 

Regards

 

 

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

Re: Anti-Social and criminal behaviour and

Astrological perspective,. Dr.S.C.Kursija

 

Saturday, May 30, 2009, 11:49 PM

 

 

 

dear chiranjiv ji

 

  sure

 

Those who tried reading charts will find that every chart is unique and all

this  points can b used as  aiding tool only

 

and even depending on desa kala patra values changes and villions and heros also

changes

 

In Old medival kerala if some one in disagreemnt with some person he can ask him

to come for a fight called " ANGAM " when all other methods fails ( here u can

even hire persons too for this purpose )  ,and such persons/hired persons  are

hailed as heros , where as now such person s are termed as criminals and

contract killers ,so is it not showing values and systems changes with time .

 

so all jyothish dictoms are eternal but we shud use it intelligently and

logicaly .

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

 

, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv wrote:

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> Dear Kusrijaji & Nairji,

>  

> In the points 1 to 19 - they are crisp I must say - there are many that some

or most of us have.

> Surely they are not the only criteria required to be a criminal ????

> For eg : Jupiters aspect is supposed to make things shubh, Or Karaka /

yogakaraka will help ??? etc

>

> Chiranjiv Mehta

>

>

> --- On Sat, 30/5/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:

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> sunil nair astro_tellerkerala

> Anti-Social and criminal behaviour and

Astrological perspective,. Dr.S.C.Kursija

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> Saturday, 30 May, 2009, 11:15 AM

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> Anti-Social and criminal behaviour and Astrological perspective

>  

> .. Dr.S.C.Kursija

>  

>  

> The anti-social behaviour and criminal acts have increased now a day. The deep

study has been conducted by many researchers in detail for the cause and nature

of ant-social acts or criminal behavior or murder or murderer, particularly by

Western Universities. Caitlin M. Jones from Rochester Institute of Technology,

the Winner of 2005 RIT Kearse Award for Writing, came to the conclusion that the

criminal behavior develops due to heredity and environment. This evidence has

been generated from a number of twin, family, and adoption studies as well as

laboratory experiments. Furthermore, the researches have stated that it is more

often an interaction between genes and the environment that predicts criminal

behavior. Having a genetic predisposition for criminal behavior does not

determine the actions of an individual, but if they are exposed to the right

environment, then their chances are greater for engaging in criminal or

anti-social behavior.

>  

> In Indian astrology it has been accepted by our rishis and savants that the

behaviour of the native depends on:

> a) Desh, in present day terminology means environment i.e. under which the

native has been nurtured or has grown such as the environment in family,

schooling, friends, culture and the

> societies at large. Desh has a powerful Influence on the development of the

native's mind, and the native's environment nurtures what is inherent in the

natal horoscope. The horoscope is examined with reference to Desh, that is,

prediction depends on an understanding of the Desh under which a particular

native develops. Astrological interpretation and prediction will vary according

to cultural customs and expectations.

>  

>  b) Kala: the kala is the time of occurring of the event. In astrology we

calculate the timing of the event by dasha and antar dash and transit of the

planets. One with aggressive and impulsive tendencies will not act on these at

all times. His super-ego developed under Desh will assert some control over his

actions. In other words, his free will and the influences around him will

prevent his mind from going astray at most times. But under the influences of

Dasha and transit, one will lose his control over the senses and under the

influence of genetic tendencies he will behave in anti-social manner.

>  

> c) Patra: is the native himself. " The self "   " individual " We can say lagna

which has tendencies i.e. genetic tendencies. Though the native has genetic

tendencies to anti-social behaviour, but it is the Desh which develops and

flourishes these tendencies. Human beings since prehistoric times have relied on

the primitive instinct of aggression for survival. Some natives who have

developed super-conscious minds are less aggressive, whereas others with only

the slightest provocation become aggressive and impulsive and commit anti-social

acts.

> Our savants have come to the conclusion after deep observation and experience

that the jeeva do four type of Purshartha (purpose of life)

>  

>  a) Dharma, duties i.e. our duties towards our parents, our family, our

society, our country etc.

>  

> b) Artha: " purpose to serve " means earning money to serve the life..

>  

> c) Kama : " Sex " " what motivates our Karma " enjoyments and enjoy comfort of

life to fulfill his desires.

>  

> d) Moksha: " freedom " " overcoming Kama " in present day terms peace of mind and

contentment. When one s not disturbed if one's desire is not fulfilled.

>  

> But in resent days it is said that the anti-social behavior is due to a) Jada 

i.e.. material and money, b) Joru i.e. sex and comforts of life. Desires. c)

Jameen i.e. protection and safety of one's life. One wants to survive and

protect himself and his family from all calamities of nature and circumstances.

There is similar proverb in English too. It says that the criminal acts are done

for " W cube " i.e. wealth, woman, and wine. It indicates that the most people are

interested only in Artha and Kama. They are not interested in Dharma and Moksha.

The Dharma and Moksha are two banks of a river of Artha and Kama . These bank do

not allow the river to go errant. Earn as much as possible and enjoy as much as

you can. But take care of Dharma and Moksha as balancing factor. When you go

into Artha and Kama without balancing effect of Dharma and Moksha, you will ha,

full of tention, anger, remorse, and regret. When a person is full of passion

and anger he

> commits anti-social acts and crime. So the conclusion of present researches

and the thinking of our savants and rishis are the same. When a native is

mentally troubled, full of tension, insecurity, and anger he commits anti-social

acts and crime. When there are genetic tendencies for aggressions, impulses and

anger and environment supports the same, makes the native anti-social and

criminal. So an individual's antisocial or criminal behavior can be the result

of both, their genetic background and the environment in which they were

nurtured.

>  

> The researchers also looked into Astrology but failed. How accurate is

astrology? To find out, a member of the Kansas City Committee for Skeptical

Inquiry (KCCSI) went to five astrologers posing as a man interested in working

with young people. He gave each astrologer the birth date, birth time and place

of John Gacy instead of his own, plus a computerized natal chart from a company

internationally recognized for accuracy (Neil F.Michelsen) , and asked them for

their advice. The astrologers unanimously encouraged him to pursue youth work

and none could see any problem with this. Gacy was selected for the test because

his chart should portray a clear picture of a sadistic sexually motivated

killer. If astrologers are able to spot personality traits and destinies in any

chart, then this is one they should have no trouble with.

> (John Gacy was born in Chicago on 17 March 1942 at 00:49 CST, or 05:49 GMT,

CST being the time required by Illinois for birth registration even though War

Time was then in effect. Some hospitals did not follow this rule, so the actual

birth time might have been an hour later at 06:49 GMT. Both times give a

Sagittarius ascendant.) The astrologers declared him as guy boy. (I think that

the horoscope was prepared on calculations based on Sayana system not on

Nirayana system which mislead and prediction failed.)

> According to Nirayana system the ascendant should be Scorpio where you include

war time or not and apply the rules of astrology. You will find him anti-social

or having criminal behavior. We will analyse the chart in the article. One must

remember that such persons are always aggressive and impulsive and are not able

to keep attention focused on one subject.

> A more elaborate test was carried out in the 1960s by Michel Gauquelin. In his

book Astrology and Science (Mayflower 1972), which is an English translation of

his book l'Astrologie devant la science (Planete 1966).

>  

> In his 1972 book, Gauquelin concluded " Confronted with science, modern and

traditional astrology are seen to be imaginary doctrines. To predict the future

by consulting the stars is to delude the world, or at least to delude oneself. "

(p.138)

>  

> The recent studies between self control and criminal activities,  published in

Science Alert, Sydney by Mel Wililams, suggests that " the low self-control to be

the strongest risk factor for crime. "   It is what the astrology suggests. The

sudden flare up of anger, and irritability and low self-control is the main

cause of criminal activities. It also points out toward prevention and cure of

the criminals. It point outs that the Prayanam and Yoga can prevents and cures

criminals because they increases self control.

>  

> But according to me the astrology is capable of pin pointing the behavior of

the native. The Astrology can indicate aggressiveness, impulsiveness, his

passion and full of anger behaviour of the native. According to astrology, a

native is aggressive, impulsive, full of anger and passion, if there are

following yoga present in his chart.

>  

> (1)       The 4th house indicates mental make up and manners of thought. Rahu

in 4th, if aspected by Mars in lagna and Saturn in 7th, it indicates the

revengeful behavior of the native.

> (2)       Gulika in 3rd point to impulsiveness and thoughtful action.

> (4)       If Lagna lord is weak and afflicted.

> (5)       The combination of Sun and Mars in any sign makes the native

murderer.(Saravali,  Ch       15, sh 2)

> (6)       If there are malefic in kendra, Sarpa yoga is formed. The native

with Sarpa yoga becomes murderer. (Saravali, ch:21, sh 42)

> Even if there are malefic planets in three kendra i.e.4th, 7th and 10th and

lagna is afflicted, there is Sarpa yoga.

> (7)               if Sun and Mars are posited in Lagna, one becomes murderer.

(Saravali, Ch:31, Sh:6)

> (8)               When Gulika is in 9th house, the person will be murderer of

his parents and preceptors. (Jataka Parijat, IX, sh:5)

> (9)               If a person is born in Atiganda yoga, the native will be

murderer. (Jataka Parijat, IX, sh:97)

> (10)          If a person is born in Dwadashamsha own by Scorpio, the native

will be murderer, master of rogue and robbers. (Jataka Parijat, IX, Sh:121)

> (11)          If Jupiter is debilitated and aspected by a debilitated planet,

the native will commit crime. (Jatak Parijat VI, shloka 6)

> (12)          When debilitated Jupiter or Sun occupy kendra, conjunction with

malefic,

> (13)          When malefic planet be in kendra without benefic aspect and

Jupiter in 8th house, the native will be slaughterer of animals. (Jataka Parijat

Ch: VI, Shloka 14)

> (14)          If Jupiter is in Lagna and Mars in 7th or vice versa, the native

e become aggressive and impulsive.(Jataka Tattva, Chapter lagna, shloka 145 to

154)

> (15)          If Saturn is posited in lagna and Mars in 5th, 7th or 9th.

> (16)          If 3rd lord is debilitated in 6th and aspected by malefic

planet, the native become aggressive and impulsive after drinking or taking some

drug.

> (17)          The native become impulsive and aggressive after the punishment

from government officials, if 2nd lord, Sun and Saturn conjoin.

> (18)          If 2nd lord, Mars and Saturn are conjoined.

> (19)          If Sun and Moon are posited in Trine or lagna, Jupiter in

Kendra, and there is kala hora of Saturn or Mars at birth.

> (20)          If Sun and Moon are in lagna and conjuncted with Mercury, the

native becomes aggressive and impulsive..

>  

> It is clear from above that the nature of the native is indicated by the

lagna. But lagna has 30 degrees. So our savages have described the nature of the

native with reference to Dreshkona of the lagna. (Saravali) Others savants have

also described the nature of the native from Navamsha of the lagna.. The Moon is

controller of impulsiveness of mind. If Moon is afflicted or posited in malefic

sign in malefic house, the native becomes impulsive. If Moon is influenced by

Mars, the native is impulsive and aggressive. Therefore Moon is also treated as

Lagna in Indian astrology. The lagna, 3rd, 11th and 10th house are indicator of

self. Mercury is another planet which controls our nervous system. Though

Mercury is not lagna in Indian astrology, but its affliction weakens the nervous

system of the native and native becomes aggressive, revengeful and impulsive.

One should also note the malefic Argala i.e. malefic planet in 2nd, 4th and 11th

house from lagna

and

> Moon. One becomes impulsive, aggressive, ant-social, criminal or murderer only

when its Lagna, lagna lord, Moon or its dispositor or Self, or navamshesh or

kendra are occupied by malefic planets without the influence of benefic planet.

For micro analysis one should examine D/3, cyclic Dreshkon and cyclic

Trimshamsha. D/30 varga of the chart.

>  

> It will be clear from the following charts.

>  

> Case 1

> John Gacy was born in Chicago on 17 March 1942 at 00:49 CST, or 05:49 GMT, CST

being the time required by Illinois for birth registration even though War Time

was then in effect. Some hospitals did not follow this rule, so the actual birth

time might have been an hour later at 06:49 GMT

>

>

>  

> If we examine the chart, we will find that the malefic planets are posited in

three kendra 4th, 7th and 10th and lagna lord is afflicted in 7th, (rule 6)

Jupiter is afflicted by Saturn, maraka and is dispositor of Sun and Moon, the

two lagna. There is exchange of houses between 3rd lord Saturn and 7th lord

Venus. Venus is maraka and 12th lord also. Moon is combust. The lagna, Moon,

10th, 3rd and 11th are the houses of self. So the impulsive, revengeful and

aggressive behavior are indicated. The astrologer in Chicago predicted him a guy

boy and Sagittarius lagna, because calculations were not based on Nirayana

system.

>  

> More over if we see the Navamsha chart of the native, we would find that lagna

is occupied by Rahu and aspected by Mars, (rule 1st). The 10th house is occupied

by Jupiter, Sun, Venus and Gulika and aspected by Saturn. Again the same

aggressive and impulsive behavior is indicated.

>  

> Case 2

> The chart is of a female. She was born on July 1, 1961 , at 11:25 hrs at Delhi

.. She got married at the age of 21st. with a boy whom she does not love.. She

was attached to another boy physically and mentally. She murdered her husband.

>  

>

>

>  

> The lagna lord is retrograde and combust and posited with 12th lord Sun in

10th house, the house of action and Sun is karaka of the lagna also. The 3rd

lord Mars is posited in 12th in the sign of Sun with Rahu, the Mars is 8thth

lord Moon is posited with retrograde, debilitated and 7th lord Jupiter and

retrograde Saturn, the dispositor of Ketu and 6th lord. The 11th house is

occupied by Gulika. The 7th lord Jupiter is retrograde, debilitate, posited in

the 5th indicates love marriage. The conjunction of 7th lord and 11th lord

indicates two marriages. The 7th house is aspected by Mars from 12th and Saturn

from 3rd, no benefic aspect on 7th. All the houses of self are afflicted. The

7th lord, 7th house and karaka Jupiter for females are afflicted.  lord

also.the11

>  

> In navamsha chart, Mercury the lagna and 10th lord, is posited in lagna with

Venus, the 10th and 5th lord, Mars the 3rd lord, is posited in 6th, Moon the

11th lord, is posited in 8th aspected by Saturn and Sun. Jupiter is posited in

4th in the sign of Mars. The houses of Self and action are afflicted. So she

committed the murder of her husband with the help of her lover..

>  

> Case 3

>  

> She was born on 8th March, 1924 , at 3:35 Delhi . She killed her three

children and hanged herself.

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>

>  

> The lagna is occupied by Mars, the 12th and 5th lord, and Gulika. The lagna

lord is posited in 12th in the sign of Mars and aspected by 3rd and 2nd lord,

retrograde Saturn from 10th. Saturn aspects Moon from 10th and 7th house as 10th

aspect. 6th lord Venus is posited 5th in Mars's sign, 10th lord is posited in

3rd and combust, conjoined with Sun and Ketu.11th house is occupied by Saturn.

So all the houses of self are occupied by malefic planets. Therefore the native

is impulsive and aggressive. The 5th house of children is occupied by 6th lord

and aspected by Rahu. The 5th lord Mars is posited in lagna with Gulika. The

karaka of children Jupiter is posited in 12th in Mars's sign. So the killing of

children is indicated. The 8th lord Moon is posited in dual sign in kendra and

dispositor is posited in 12th.and aspected by Saturn from 10th. (See article

Suicide)

>  

> In Navamsha chart Mars, the lagna lord of navamsha chart and Rahu are

conjoined in 8th house in the sign of Mercury, aspected by Saturn. The lagna is

Mars's sign and aspected by Sun, Gulika and Venus, the 12th lord. The 3rd house

is aspected by Mars with Rahu from 8th house indicating suicide. There is no

improvement in the chart.

>  

> Case 4

>  

> The native is a Muslim boy. He was born on 5th July, 1962 , at 16:52 at Delhi

.. He has premarital relation with a Brahmin girl. The brother of girl took

objection to the affairs.  The Muslim boy killed the brother of the girl with

the help of his friend.

>  

>

>

>  

> The lagna is a malefic sign, the lagna lord Mars and 8th lord Mercury and Rahu

from 9th with 7th lord and karaka Venus aspect the lagna. So he loved a Brahmin

girl. Lagna lord Mars is posited in 7th in enemy sign with enemy Mercury. The

Moon is posited in 10th with Gulika in fiery sign. The dispositor is posited in

8th. The 3rd house is occupied by its lord Saturn and Ketu.. 11th lord Mercury

is posited with Mars, enemy and aspecting lagna. So Lagna, lagna lord, Sun, Moon

and houses of self are afflicted. So the native is aggressive, revengeful and

impulsive. Jupiter is retrograde posited in 4th in the sign of Saturn and

aspected by Moon and Gulika. If we consider the 7th house as the lagna of

spouse, 5th and 9th are her brothers and both are afflicted.

>  

> If we look at the Navamsha chart, we will find again malefic sign in lagna,

occupied by Rahu and aspected by Saturn, retrograde. Mars occupy the 4th and

aspected by Saturn. So the native is first grade aggressive and impulsive.

>  

> Case 5

>  

> The native was born on 2nd April, 1959 , at 10:12 , at Kanpur India . The

native was uncontrolled child since childhood. He got enmity with co-student

during an election. The native lost election and had nurtured enmity toward the

said student. After a couple of years, both got posted in the same city and in

the same office. The native's revengeful feeling woke up. He killed the

co-student in Sat/Sun dasha.

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>  

> The lagna is occupied by 6th and 11th lord Mars and aspected by 8th and 9th

lord Saturn. The Mars aspects Rahu and Saturn. The Saturn aspects Rahu. Rahu is

aspected by Sun and Mercury. The Mercury is lagna lord, retrograde and combust.

All the kendra are occupied by the malefic planets forming Sarpa yoga indicating

impulsive, revengeful and aggressive behavior. The Jupiter is also retrograde

and posited in Mars's sign in 6th. Jupiter is 10th lord.. There is no benefic

influence on lagna.

>  

> If we examine Navamsha chart, we would find that the lagna lord is posited in

2nd house in the sign of Mars with Mars. The Sun is posited in 4th with Gulika

in enemy sign. The 10th lord Moon is posited in 6th, the dispositor, the

Jupiter  is posited in 12th with Mercury, the dispositor of Rahu. The Self is

occupied by malefic planets and there is Sun in kendra. Moon has Argala of Rahu

and Sun. Therefore there is no relief in Navamsha chart also..

>  

> Case 6

>  

> The native was born on 1-901970, at 23:35 hrs at Ajmer , Rajasthan. He had

love affairs with a girl. The brother of the girl took objection to it. He

killed her brother with the help of his friend.

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>  

> The lagna is Vargottama. The lagna lord is posited in 6th. The malefic planets

are posited in Kendra with out benefic aspects and no benefic planet in kendra.

Moon, 3rd lord is combust in 4th. The 4th house is occupied by Sun, Mars and

Ketu also. The Jupiter, the 11th lord is posited in 6th.  11th house is also

occupied by Gulika. The Saturn 10th lord is posited in 12th and aspecting 2nd,

6th and 9th house. So all the factors indicating Self are afflicted.

>  

> If we examine the Navamsha chart, we find that lagna is occupied by Mars and

aspected by Moon and Gulika. The 4th house is occupied by Sun and aspected by

Mars. The Jupiter, Saturn and Rahu are in 8th house. Therefore the native is

aggressive and impulsive and committed crime.

> More cases can be given to prove our thinking that the astrology can indicates

the traits of an individual and it is the duty of social thinkers to convert

these individual in the benefit of the society. I am unable to understand that

why the general masses at large and scientists particularly, desire to hear

anti-social or criminal word from the mouth of an astrologer. The astrology is

the science of Time (Kala) based on the science of astronomy and indicates only

the traits of the personality of an individual and time, when the even will take

place. If there is malefic influence on the Self, lagna, 3rd, 11th and 10th

house of the chart, influence of Mars, Sun, Rahu, Ketu and Saturn, the native

will be aggressive and impulsive. In his impulsion and aggressiveness he commits

crime. It is the society or say environment which converts these traits of

impulsiveness, aggressiveness, and revengefulness into an anti-social or

criminal behaviour or can turn

> these traits into service of society i.e. give employment in the department of

police or army where these traits are required. They have low self-control. The

Prayanam and Yoga creates self-control and can prevent and cure criminals. The

recent researches of the various universities also support the same. 

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requested to make charts and study the article --moderator s )

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