Saturn 3rd house Neecha in 6th for Scorpio Lagna

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Neelam Ji,

 

Very nice analysis. I would also add one other point. Since 6th house is 12th

from the 7th and due to Saturns aspect on the 12th from the Lagna (as correctly

pointed out by you), it also possible for married people to be physically (or

otherwise) separated fom their spouse. This is a very difficult position for

conjugal harmony, unless some exceptional alleviating factors are present.

 

As you accurately elucidated, Vipreet Raj Yog  Lite (which is what I would call

this) indicates a Vipreet should happen first. In most cases the Raj Yog (if any

assuming other planets dont interfere) that follows the Vipreet is more like a

prosthetic leg after the leg has been severed. I have seen that in many cases

this can come in the form of a sudden source of money (due to Divorce) due to

the involvement of 6th, 8th, 12th houses.

 

One other interesting factor about 3rd house in the 6th that I have noticed is

that in some cases this is indicative of healing therapy (3rd house -hands, 6th

house disease). This is especially true if the 11th house lord is strong and

well placed (since 11th shows our ability to heal from the 6th house diseases).

I have also seen in a few cases that a NeechaBhanga of the 3rd in the 6th

(especially the rather unorthodox NeechaBanga of Sa being Neecha in Rashi but

Exalted in the Navamsha) results in subjects who fall very sick (due to an

" incurable " illness from an allopathic point of view) and hence are " forced " to

take up " alternative healing therapies " (like Reiki, Pranic Healing, Ayurveda,

Massage Therapies, Accupuncture etc) and some of them become very powerful and

successful in their path. In those cases the NeechaBanga seems to deliver its

goods later in lives through the apt quote you had made " Trouble shooting 6th

house problems through 3rd

house means " .

 

I just started paying attention to this group couple of days ago and it has

already been a pleasure. Great work !!!

 

-Manoj Chandran

 

 

 

 

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neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

 

Monday, June 1, 2009 7:10:30 AM

Re: Re:Rahu_ 1H

 

 

Dear Sunil ji,

 

//3rd house is Saturn and is neecha in the 6th house of Makara then what will be

its effect? Will the Saturn then be beneficial?/ /

 

Well, difficult to say much for an isolated placement. One has to check how this

Saturn is interacting with other placements and vargas and dashas. Anyhow, let

me try..

 

This will be for Scorpio lagna and saturn is a functional malefic for this lagna

as well as inimical to LL. Although a neecha 3L in 6H is said to be good (a kind

of vipreet rajyoga), I've always seen neecha planets giving deficiencies and

problems, specially the neecha malefics, though in houses like 3/6 they also

give the power and courage to withstand adversities, provided lagna is strong.

They seem to take their toll from the native. Apparently everything might look

good but it is never smooth sailing with neecha planets, even in trishadaya or

upchay.

 

Malefics always harm the jeev, so it might deprive him happiness through/of

siblings, even though it will not deny siblings as it also aspects own 3H. 

 

Saturn as lord of effort in house of strife could create work-related/ labour

problems or long working hours which could affect health/lagna. He could face

problems related to his servants, subordinates, etc, which he will also overcome

as malefic would also suppress the enemies. It could produce some chronic

health disorder as saturn also aspects 3H/8H and 12H. As 4L in 6H, it can

result in property disputes, disputes with maternal uncles, etc, problem with

mother.

 

Basically I would say that native would always appear to be making efforts,

running around, doing a lot of work, but most of it would be troubleshooting. 

6H problems being tackled with 3H efforts. If the native gets saturn’s dasha,

he would not be able to come out of this vicious circle.

 

If 10/11 houses are good and lagna is strong, he would also prosper and rise in

career, otherwise his life can be difficult.

Is it any special case which you’re referring to or general results?

 

Regards

Neelam

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Dear Manoj ji,

Dear Manoj ji,Glad that your attention

drifted and it’s a pleasure to share this platform with the learned and knowledgeable.

We welcome you on board, please share freely whether we agree or disagree, its

learning both ways.

//Since 6th house is

12th from the 7th and due to Saturns aspect on the 12th from the Lagna (as

correctly pointed out by you), it also possible for married people to be

physically (or otherwise) separated fom their spouse. This is a very difficult position

for conjugal harmony, unless some exceptional alleviating factors are present.//

Just an extended thought

on this, if you don’t mind. Venus governs both 7H and 12H, Saturn being

friendly to these houses for scorpio lagna, may act a little differently I feel.

What is not good for lagna, is good for 7H, isn’t it? Saturn would be like a foolish

friend! Misguiding the partner may be! When Saturn is neecha in 6H, it could even suppress the 6H results of actual separation and by its aspect on its

exalted sign of libra, it could, in a way support the 12H. Some harder lessons

there for the Venusian spouses?

Thanks for sharing, I agree with you.

RegardsNeelam

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Dear Manoj ji, Neelam ji, You two really confused me with the following statement -Quote//Since 6th house is

12th from the 7th and due to Saturns aspect on the 12th from the Lagna (as

correctly pointed out by you), it also possible for married people to be

physically (or otherwise) separated fom their spouse. This is a very difficult position

for conjugal harmony, unless some exceptional alleviating factors are present.//

Just

an extended thought

on this, if you don't mind. Venus governs both 7H and 12H, Saturn being

friendly to these houses for scorpio lagna, may act a little

differently I feel.

What is not good for lagna, is good for 7H, isn't it? Saturn would be

like a foolish

friend! Misguiding the partner may be! When Saturn is neecha in 6H, it

could even suppress the 6H results of actual separation and by its

aspect on its

exalted sign of libra, it could, in a way support the 12H. Some harder

lessons

there for the Venusian spouses?Unquote * Manoj ji: Saturn in 6th (i.e. 12th from 7th) is supposed to cause harm to 7th - but is it that as separation from husband? * Neelam ji: A planet in debilitation will have to certainly aspect its house of exaltation: But does that mean that it will give benefic results related to the house of exaltation? Satun in 6th in debilitation aspecting 12th from lagna (saturn's house of exaltation) is supposed to suppresss actual seperation (between husband and wife)? I am not convinced by both these arguments, and does not feel like agreeing with both the above points. Dear all, Can any one come with a real chart and explain the reality to me based on his actual experience? Love and regards,Sreenadh , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Manoj ji,> > Dear Manoj ji,> > Glad that your attention drifted and it's a pleasure to share this platform> with the learned and knowledgeable. We welcome you on board, please share> freely whether we agree or disagree, its learning both ways.> > //Since 6th house is 12th from the 7th and due to Saturns aspect on the 12th> from the Lagna (as correctly pointed out by you), it also possible for> married people to be physically (or otherwise) separated fom their spouse.> This is a very difficult position for conjugal harmony, unless some> exceptional alleviating factors are present.//> > Just an extended thought on this, if you don't mind. Venus governs both 7H> and 12H, Saturn being friendly to these houses for scorpio lagna, may act a> little differently I feel. What is not good for lagna, is good for 7H, isn't> it? Saturn would be like a foolish friend! Misguiding the partner may be!> When Saturn is neecha in 6H, it could even suppress the 6H results of actual> separation and by its aspect on its exalted sign of libra, it could, in a> way support the 12H. Some harder lessons there for the Venusian spouses?> > Thanks for sharing, I agree with you.> > Regards> Neelam>

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Dear friends of the Forum,

 

As the discussion is going on for Scorpio langa, and debilitated Saturn, I have

both My

 

DOB 21 April 1941, 23O7 hrs, Karachi Pakistan, My lagna is Scorpio, Moon

vagottam in 12th, Jupiter in own sign in 10th and Saturn in exaltation in 8th in

navamsha.

(1) my father died when I was on breast feeding, Partition of India, stared

earning at the age of 6th or 7th, My uncles brought me up, We settled in Delhi

in 1952, Complete education up to higher Secondary by tuition's, Joined RBI in

April 1961 with the help of my friend, I complete my BA, MA, education in

Homeopathy while I was in service. I sought voluntary retirement in April 1991,

Leanred Astrology in 1991 from Bhartya Vidya Bhawan and cleared Jyotish Visharad

in 1993 and stared teaching in 1993 in Bhartya Vidya Bhavan, Since then I am

teaching Astrology and earning through practice of Homeopathy. I have written a

few books also. I have two sons and a daughter, One son and the daughter is

married. this is my brief history. I am ready to give ant other inquiry if

needed.

 

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

Sreenadh <sreesog

Re: Saturn 3rd house Neecha in 6th for

Scorpio Lagna

 

Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 11:55 AM

 

 

 

Dear Manoj ji, Neelam ji,

   You two really confused me with the following statement -

 

Quote

//Since 6th house is 12th from the 7th and due to Saturns aspect on the 12th

from the Lagna (as correctly pointed out by you), it also possible for married

people to be physically (or otherwise) separated fom their spouse. This is a

very difficult position for conjugal harmony, unless some exceptional

alleviating factors are present.//

Just an extended thought on this, if you don't mind. Venus governs both 7H and

12H, Saturn being friendly to these houses for scorpio lagna, may act a little

differently I feel. What is not good for lagna, is good for 7H, isn't it?

Saturn would be like a foolish friend! Misguiding the partner may be! When

Saturn is neecha in 6H, it could even suppress the 6H results of actual

separation and by its aspect on its exalted sign of libra, it could, in a way

support the 12H. Some harder lessons there for the Venusian spouses?

Unquote

  * Manoj ji: Saturn in 6th (i.e. 12th from 7th) is supposed to cause harm to

7th - but is it that as separation from husband?

   * Neelam ji: A planet in debilitation will have to certainly aspect its house

of exaltation: But does that mean that it will give benefic results related to

the house of exaltation? Satun in 6th in debilitation aspecting 12th from lagna

(saturn's house of exaltation) is supposed to suppresss actual seperation

(between husband and wife)?

  I am not convinced by both these arguments, and does not feel like agreeing

with both the above points.  Dear all, Can any one come with a real chart and

explain the reality to me based on his actual experience?

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> Glad that your attention drifted and it's a pleasure to share this platform

> with the learned and knowledgeable. We welcome you on board, please share

> freely whether we agree or disagree, its learning both ways.

>

> //Since 6th house is 12th from the 7th and due to Saturns aspect on the 12th

> from the Lagna (as correctly pointed out by you), it also possible for

> married people to be physically (or otherwise) separated fom their spouse.

> This is a very difficult position for conjugal harmony, unless some

> exceptional alleviating factors are present.//

>

> Just an extended thought on this, if you don't mind. Venus governs both 7H

> and 12H, Saturn being friendly to these houses for scorpio lagna, may act a

> little differently I feel. What is not good for lagna, is good for 7H, isn't

> it? Saturn would be like a foolish friend! Misguiding the partner may be!

> When Saturn is neecha in 6H, it could even suppress the 6H results of actual

> separation and by its aspect on its exalted sign of libra, it could, in a

> way support the 12H. Some harder lessons there for the Venusian spouses?

>

> Thanks for sharing, I agree with you.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>