Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Manoj Chandran ji, That is all very interesting. //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.// Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma. Why? You might have used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0 deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th! No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much. Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB? I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in another mail. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However, every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here since> then.> > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from serious trouble.> > -Manoj Chandran> > > > > ________________________________> Sreenadh sreesog > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM> Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL)> > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not, here it is -> * "Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame" [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death of first wife]> This means that either your first wife will die, and with the second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss of first love and relation heart burn is certain. > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results, not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya). Hope you have heared the dictum - "Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa budhastaiyutaH" [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will have more bad results to deliver than good results. > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17 years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you alone. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife) argument support the above indications. > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong combinations.. > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we can proceed. > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested, in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord. I have Scorpio Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the ages of (4 -17 years).> > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold my thoughts for later.> > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think this should be a good test case.> > > > -Manoj Chandran> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Sreenadh Ji, Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than Lahiri. Here are the details: June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34, 12 N 30) -Manoj Sreenadh <sreesog Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Manoj Chandran ji, That is all very interesting. //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.// Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma. Why? You might have used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0 deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th! No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much. Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB? I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in another mail.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However, every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here since> then.> > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from serious trouble.> > -Manoj Chandran> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sreenadh sreesog ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL)> > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not, here it is -> * "Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame" [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death of first wife]> This means that either your first wife will die, and with the second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss of first love and relation heart burn is certain. > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results, not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya). Hope you have heared the dictum - "Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa budhastaiyutaH" [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will have more bad results to deliver than good results. > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17 years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you alone. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife) argument support the above indications. > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong combinations.. . > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we can proceed. > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested, in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord. I have Scorpio Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the ages of (4 -17 years).> > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold my thoughts for later.> > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think this should be a good test case.> > > > -Manoj Chandran> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mail of yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clear this, that Saturn is good for you . 1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new house during the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a good period, if you remember ? 2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ? About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later, after you reply above question. regards/Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than Lahiri. Here are the details: > > June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34, 12 N 30) > > -Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Sreenadh sreesog > > Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM > Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > That is all very interesting. > //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.// > Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma.. Why? You might have used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0 deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th! No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much. > Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB? I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in another mail. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However, every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here > since > > then. > > > > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from serious trouble. > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL) > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not, here it is - > > * " Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame " [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death of first wife] > > This means that either your first wife will die, and with the second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss of first love and relation heart burn is certain. > > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results, not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hope you have heared the dictum - " Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa budhastaiyutaH " [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will have more bad results to deliver than good results. > > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17 years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you alone. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife) argument support the above indications. > > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong combinations. . > > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we can proceed. > > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested, in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have Scorpio Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the ages of (4 -17 years). > > > > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold my thoughts for later. > > > > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think this should be a good test case. > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Mr. Manoj Chandran, With the birth data provided by you, I get Scorpio Lagna and Cancer Rashi. You were born in the dasha of Saturn. Please answer the following questions to establish the correctness of your chart as it is at 2 degrees and could be the last navamsha of Libra too. i. Are you three brothers and sisters or more? Your mother could have had in all 5 pregnancies. ii. Elder one than you could be born between 1966-68? iii. Your education could be in science stream with a break or change in education. iv. you could have started earning early in life. v. you could have later entered into management kind of education vi. I see you working or earning something of your own around or after 1991. vii. I see you relocating to a different place, (could be a foreign land too) in or after 1998. viii. I see your marriage too after 1998, though marriage a difficult area in the life of the person having this horoscope. ix. your earnings improved much better than before after 1998. x. health of your father could be a cause of worry during the same period. xi. one of younger co-borns could be undergoing a tough period now and that could be a major cause of worry of you presently. xii. there could have been some health problem at the time of your birth and your mother could have also faced some health problem during your birth or during the pregnancy when you were in her womb. Kindly answer the questions. regards, Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Here are the answers: 1) 91-92 I took a break in education. So essentially a stagnant period, but, prepared to come for higher studies. Normally I should have left for my MS in 91, however, circumstances forced me to delay by one year. I also got no financial assistance and had to complete my MS (92-94) through 100% student loans which I paid back by 1996. 2) 2003 I did not move to a new house but I refinanced my house (which was actually new and recent because we had bought the house in End of 2000). 2003 eventually turned out to be auspicious because finally after much struggle and prayers and much heart ache, finally my wife was pregnant with our lovely child, who was subsequently born Jan 2004. Eager to find out why Saturn is good for me -Manoj Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:49:21 AM Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Manoj ji,Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mailof yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clearthis, that Saturn is good for you .1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new houseduring the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a goodperiod, if you remember ?2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ?About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later,after you reply above question.regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh Ji,>> Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other thanLahiri. Here are the details:>> June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34,12 N 30)>> -Manoj>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Sreenadh sreesog ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya>>>>>> Dear Manoj Chandran ji,> That is all very interesting.> //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I wasinterested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in aweak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.//> Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based onthe combination your provided. Now I am dilemma.. Why? You might haveused Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandrahari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as perchandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th!No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much.> Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB?I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope inanother mail.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh>> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> >> > The results that you have just described is consistent with what Ilearnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primaryreason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested inromance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avasthawill reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results duringthis dasha, education was very successful after many struggles andimmense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was endingand managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However,every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. Idedicated every second of my time to intense study and with singlepointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break inEducation between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke).. In1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here> since> > then.> >> > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in mylife. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So yourstatic analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early andgrowing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me fromserious trouble.> >> > -Manoj Chandran> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Sreenadh sreesog@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL)> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Manoj Chandran ji,> > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th forScorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Doyou really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not,here it is -> > * "Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame"[Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the deathof first wife]> > This means that either your first wife will die, and with thesecond wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have avery strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but willnever reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way lossof first love and relation heart burn is certain.> > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results,not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lordand as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence ofSun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hopeyou have heared the dictum - "Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papabudhastaiyutaH" [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed alongwith any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury inyour chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it isplaced along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury willhave more bad results to deliver than good results.> > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to youalone. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to therelatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife)argument support the above indications.> > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOTsuited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11thlord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strongcombinations. .> > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, byquoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then wecan proceed.> > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirmor negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > >> > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested,in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have ScorpioLagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th houseis Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between theages of (4 -17 years).> > >> > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysismight still bring up interesting points regarding that particulardictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking atseveral charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will holdmy thoughts for later.> > >> > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me isotherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but doesnot get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separatedand hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I thinkthis should be a good test case.> > >> > > -Manoj Chandran> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Mr Manoj Kumar, Scorpio Lagna, Moon in Cancer in the 9th and Saturn Exalted in D-9 matches my chart with Lahiri Ayanamsha. My grand father was himself an astrologer so I am very confident of the accuracy of my birth time. Here are the answers: 1) We are two brothers, (one younger) and I had a much younger sister whom I lost within a few days. I am only aware of 3 pregnancies for my mom. 2) I am the eldest. 3) Yes, I am an Engineer with one year break in education. 4) I started earning in my 24th year, which is probably just average and not very early. 5) No I have no management education. 6) I have never owned a business on my own, have always worked for companies. 7) I had already relocated to the US in fall of 1992 and have been here since. 8) My marriage was in July 1997 and yes I am painfully aware of the marriage karma in this lifetime. 9) I dont remember health of my father causing any worry for me during this period. He was doing fine healthwise but had some money problems. 10) Actually my coborn is doing very well for himself now. He just had a beautiful baby but because of all the problems in my life, unfortunately we are not as close as I would like it to be. 11) Not exactly at the time of Birth by when I was 1 year old my father was inolved in a head-on collision with a Lorry at high speeds. I was in the car as well. Miraculously I was unhurt. My father suffered serious injury to his abdomen and a large portion of his large intestine had to be removed. But miraculously he survived the surgery and remains active and healthy to this day by the grace of God. Hope that helps. -Manoj Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 1:40:35 AMRe: Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Mr. Manoj Chandran, With the birth data provided by you, I get Scorpio Lagna and Cancer Rashi. You were born in the dasha of Saturn. Please answer the following questions to establish the correctness of your chart as it is at 2 degrees and could be the last navamsha of Libra too. i. Are you three brothers and sisters or more? Your mother could have had in all 5 pregnancies. ii. Elder one than you could be born between 1966-68? iii. Your education could be in science stream with a break or change in education. iv. you could have started earning early in life. v. you could have later entered into management kind of education vi. I see you working or earning something of your own around or after 1991. vii. I see you relocating to a different place, (could be a foreign land too) in or after 1998. viii. I see your marriage too after 1998, though marriage a difficult area in the life of the person having this horoscope. ix. your earnings improved much better than before after 1998. x. health of your father could be a cause of worry during the same period. xi. one of younger co-borns could be undergoing a tough period now and that could be a major cause of worry of you presently. xii. there could have been some health problem at the time of your birth and your mother could have also faced some health problem during your birth or during the pregnancy when you were in her womb. Kindly answer the questions. regards, Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, Sorry for the delay in replying you. I was waiting for night to fall and a calm atmosphere to write to you. Now read my mail properly because this is Real astrology and if one can understand this, then he has understood astrology. Rest, tonnes of theories are not going to work in actual but can only be done to make an impression, but actual astrology in simple language is this - I did not tell you the reasons previously why Saturn was good for you and not be blamed or made the culprit, because I wanted you to be commital in your words and now after your reply has come, I am assured and happy to relate what I was talking of since you have yourself now proved that Saturn is good for you. How ? First Scenario You have a friend who is a noble man and his driver knocks on your Home main gate saying "Boss has sent some gifts to You". You can expect some happiness from his gifts. Second Scenario You know somebody who is a Mafia and not a good man to deal with, and his Driver comes and knocks on your Gate, and says "Boss has sent some gifts to you " You can now sense the incoming trouble due to the receipts of his gifts. You have accepted now that 91-92 was a bad period for You . You were running Ketu antardasha in this period. But Ketu is not bad. The problem comes from Shukra. Here Ketu was the driver and Shukra is the mafia Don. You have accepted that 2003 was good for You. You were running the antardasha of Chandra then. But Chandra does not bring in the good. Shani brings it. Here Chandra is the Driver and Shani is the Noble man. What is the connection between Ketu-Shukra, and Chandra-Shani in Your Horoscope ? Ketu is in Nakshatra of Shukra, and Chandra is in Nakshatra of Shani. We cannot blame the Driver for who his Boss is, and since the Driver is in the conrol of the Boss, you could either blame the Boss if he is a bad man, or bless him if he is a good man. But the Driver cannot be blamed. In Your Horoscope Saturn is good but he is under the control of the Boss who is the Mafia Don Shukra, so whenever you have antardasha of saturn you will face troubles and trials and tribulations. This can be proved very well in Your own words when you said that the period of Chandra antardasha was good. Why ? because it was in the control of Saturn who is its Nakshatra Lord. Now some Irony in Your horoscope . Shukra or Venus who is the Mafia Don in Your chart as discussed above, when he himself takes the role of the driver (When you are under the influence of venus antardasha), will give you the best results you will ever have in Your Life. because its Boss is the Most Noblest man Jupiter, who represents the houses 11,2 and 5 in Your Chart. So here the same Mafia Don becomes your benefactor by wearing the clothes of a Driver. And what about Jupiter himself ? When it dons the role of the Driver, it would give you worst results with regards to health. Why ? because it is owned by the Boss, Mars who represents the 6th and the 8th in Your Chart. And here the same Jupiter in above example which gives you health and wealth and love, and fulfillment of desires, when it gets the power to Control, becomes the Mafia Don now. This is Maya. The same planets in the same Horoscope interchange their roles and for once become good, and for once become evil by virtue of changing places. Taking above as clues, you can work out every antardasha of Your Life in 5 minutes, what they will give you. Once you become adept in this form of prognosis, it will just take you few seconds and not even minutes to know what period what results one will have in his Life. Conclusion - No Planet is entirely good or entirely evil. What me may see and percive as benefic or malefic may not be the truth unless the curtain of ignorance is removed from the eyes when one becomes a good astrologer. I have uptil now not even taken the different ages in Your Life in account when these same planets would again change places, and those who may be acting like Yogkarakas in youth may now suddenly change into deadly killers in older age. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > Here are the answers:> > 1) 91-92 I took a break in education. So essentially a stagnant period, but, prepared to come for higher studies. Normally I should have left for my MS in 91, however, circumstances forced me to delay by one year. I also got no financial assistance and had to complete my MS (92-94) through 100% student loans which I paid back by 1996.> > 2) 2003 I did not move to a new house but I refinanced my house (which was actually new and recent because we had bought the house in End of 2000). 2003 eventually turned out to be auspicious because finally after much struggle and prayers and much heart ache, finally my wife was pregnant with our lovely child, who was subsequently born Jan 2004.> > Eager to find out why Saturn is good for me > > > -Manoj> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:49:21 AM> Re: Tri-shad-aya> > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mail> of yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clear> this, that Saturn is good for you .> > 1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new house> during the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a good> period, if you remember ?> > 2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ?> > About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later,> after you reply above question.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> >> > Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than> Lahiri. Here are the details:> >> > June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34,> 12 N 30)> >> > -Manoj> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Sreenadh sreesog@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Manoj Chandran ji,> > That is all very interesting.> > //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was> interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a> weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.//> > Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on> the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma.. Why? You might have> used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0> deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra> hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per> chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! > So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th!> No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much.> > Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB?> I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in> another mail.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > >> > > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I> learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary> reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in> romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at> 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha> will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during> this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and> immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending> and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However,> every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I> dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single> pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in> Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In> 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here> > since> > > then.> > >> > > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my> life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your> static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and> growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from> serious trouble.> > >> > > -Manoj Chandran> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL)> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji,> > > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for> Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do> you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not,> here it is -> > > * "Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame"> [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death> of first wife]> > > This means that either your first wife will die, and with the> second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a> very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will> never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss> of first love and relation heart burn is certain.> > > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results,> not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord> and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of> Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hope> you have heared the dictum - "Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa> budhastaiyutaH" [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along> with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in> your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is> placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will> have more bad results to deliver than good results.> > > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17> years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you> alone.. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the> relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife)> argument support the above indications.> > > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT> suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th> lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong> combinations. .> > > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by> quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we> can proceed.> > > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm> or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > > >> > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested,> in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have Scorpio> Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house> is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the> ages of (4 -17 years).> > > >> > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis> might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular> dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at> several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold> my thoughts for later.> > > >> > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is> otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does> not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated> and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think> this should be a good test case.> > > >> > > > -Manoj Chandran> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Thank you for the beautiful lesson in Nakshatras based Astrology. As you rightly say, truth is very simple and uncomplicated. However I have one question. I understand that Jupiter is a Noble man due to his auspicious house ownership and benific status. How come the Noble status for Saturn? I understand how he influences my chart from your explanation. But I am still confused on why he is giving Noble results despite being Neecha in the 6th house and owning 3rd and 4th houses? I am grateful for your knowledge sharing. Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Tuesday, June 2, 2009 11:17:52 AM Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Manoj ji, Sorry for the delay in replying you. I was waiting for night to fall and a calm atmosphere to write to you. Now read my mail properly because this is Real astrology and if one can understand this, then he has understood astrology. Rest, tonnes of theories are not going to work in actual but can only be done to make an impression, but actual astrology in simple language is this - I did not tell you the reasons previously why Saturn was good for you and not be blamed or made the culprit, because I wanted you to be commital in your words and now after your reply has come, I am assured and happy to relate what I was talking of since you have yourself now proved that Saturn is good for you. How ? First Scenario You have a friend who is a noble man and his driver knocks on your Home main gate saying " Boss has sent some gifts to You " . You can expect some happiness from his gifts. Second Scenario You know somebody who is a Mafia and not a good man to deal with, and his Driver comes and knocks on your Gate, and says " Boss has sent some gifts to you " You can now sense the incoming trouble due to the receipts of his gifts. You have accepted now that 91-92 was a bad period for You .. You were running Ketu antardasha in this period. But Ketu is not bad. The problem comes from Shukra. Here Ketu was the driver and Shukra is the mafia Don. You have accepted that 2003 was good for You. You were running the antardasha of Chandra then. But Chandra does not bring in the good.. Shani brings it. Here Chandra is the Driver and Shani is the Noble man. What is the connection between Ketu-Shukra, and Chandra-Shani in Your Horoscope ? Ketu is in Nakshatra of Shukra, and Chandra is in Nakshatra of Shani. We cannot blame the Driver for who his Boss is, and since the Driver is in the conrol of the Boss, you could either blame the Boss if he is a bad man, or bless him if he is a good man. But the Driver cannot be blamed. In Your Horoscope Saturn is good but he is under the control of the Boss who is the Mafia Don Shukra, so whenever you have antardasha of saturn you will face troubles and trials and tribulations. This can be proved very well in Your own words when you said that the period of Chandra antardasha was good. Why ? because it was in the control of Saturn who is its Nakshatra Lord. Now some Irony in Your horoscope . Shukra or Venus who is the Mafia Don in Your chart as discussed above, when he himself takes the role of the driver (When you are under the influence of venus antardasha), will give you the best results you will ever have in Your Life. because its Boss is the Most Noblest man Jupiter, who represents the houses 11,2 and 5 in Your Chart. So here the same Mafia Don becomes your benefactor by wearing the clothes of a Driver. And what about Jupiter himself ? When it dons the role of the Driver, it would give you worst results with regards to health. Why ? because it is owned by the Boss, Mars who represents the 6th and the 8th in Your Chart. And here the same Jupiter in above example which gives you health and wealth and love, and fulfillment of desires, when it gets the power to Control, becomes the Mafia Don now. This is Maya. The same planets in the same Horoscope interchange their roles and for once become good, and for once become evil by virtue of changing places. Taking above as clues, you can work out every antardasha of Your Life in 5 minutes, what they will give you. Once you become adept in this form of prognosis, it will just take you few seconds and not even minutes to know what period what results one will have in his Life. Conclusion - No Planet is entirely good or entirely evil. What me may see and percive as benefic or malefic may not be the truth unless the curtain of ignorance is removed from the eyes when one becomes a good astrologer. I have uptil now not even taken the different ages in Your Life in account when these same planets would again change places, and those who may be acting like Yogkarakas in youth may now suddenly change into deadly killers in older age. best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Here are the answers: > > 1) 91-92 I took a break in education. So essentially a stagnant period, but, prepared to come for higher studies. Normally I should have left for my MS in 91, however, circumstances forced me to delay by one year. I also got no financial assistance and had to complete my MS (92-94) through 100% student loans which I paid back by 1996. > > 2) 2003 I did not move to a new house but I refinanced my house (which was actually new and recent because we had bought the house in End of 2000). 2003 eventually turned out to be auspicious because finally after much struggle and prayers and much heart ache, finally my wife was pregnant with our lovely child, who was subsequently born Jan 2004. > > Eager to find out why Saturn is good for me > > > -Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:49:21 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Manoj ji, > > Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mail > of yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clear > this, that Saturn is good for you . > > 1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new house > during the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a good > period, if you remember ? > > 2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ? > > About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later, > after you reply above question. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than > Lahiri. Here are the details: > > > > June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34, > 12 N 30) > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > That is all very interesting. > > //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was > interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a > weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.// > > Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on > the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma... Why? You might have > used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0 > deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra > hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per > chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! > So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th! > No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much. > > Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB? > I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in > another mail. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I > learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary > reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in > romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at > 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha > will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during > this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and > immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending > and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However, > every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I > dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single > pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in > Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In > 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here > > since > > > then. > > > > > > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my > life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your > static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and > growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from > serious trouble. > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for > Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do > you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not, > here it is - > > > * " Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame " > [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death > of first wife] > > > This means that either your first wife will die, and with the > second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a > very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will > never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss > of first love and relation heart burn is certain. > > > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results, > not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord > and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of > Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hope > you have heared the dictum - " Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa > budhastaiyutaH " [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along > with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in > your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is > placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will > have more bad results to deliver than good results. > > > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17 > years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you > alone.. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the > relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife) > argument support the above indications. > > > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT > suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th > lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong > combinations. . > > > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by > quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we > can proceed. > > > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm > or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested, > in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have Scorpio > Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house > is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the > ages of (4 -17 years). > > > > > > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis > might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular > dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at > several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold > my thoughts for later. > > > > > > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is > otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does > not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated > and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think > this should be a good test case. > > > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Respected Bhaskar Ji, Superb! Excellent description. You score sixer's once in every 6 months or 1 year with your post, which makes it so easy for a person to understand what is predictive astrology. Keep it up. Warm Regards Amit Nakai Bhaskar Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:47 PM Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Manoj ji, Sorry for the delay in replying you. I was waiting for night to fall and a calm atmosphere to write to you. Now read my mail properly because this is Real astrology and if one can understand this, then he has understood astrology. Rest, tonnes of theories are not going to work in actual but can only be done to make an impression, but actual astrology in simple language is this - I did not tell you the reasons previously why Saturn was good for you and not be blamed or made the culprit, because I wanted you to be commital in your words and now after your reply has come, I am assured and happy to relate what I was talking of since you have yourself now proved that Saturn is good for you. How ? First Scenario You have a friend who is a noble man and his driver knocks on your Home main gate saying "Boss has sent some gifts to You". You can expect some happiness from his gifts. Second Scenario You know somebody who is a Mafia and not a good man to deal with, and his Driver comes and knocks on your Gate, and says "Boss has sent some gifts to you " You can now sense the incoming trouble due to the receipts of his gifts. You have accepted now that 91-92 was a bad period for You . You were running Ketu antardasha in this period. But Ketu is not bad. The problem comes from Shukra. Here Ketu was the driver and Shukra is the mafia Don. You have accepted that 2003 was good for You. You were running the antardasha of Chandra then. But Chandra does not bring in the good. Shani brings it. Here Chandra is the Driver and Shani is the Noble man. What is the connection between Ketu-Shukra, and Chandra-Shani in Your Horoscope ? Ketu is in Nakshatra of Shukra, and Chandra is in Nakshatra of Shani. We cannot blame the Driver for who his Boss is, and since the Driver is in the conrol of the Boss, you could either blame the Boss if he is a bad man, or bless him if he is a good man. But the Driver cannot be blamed. In Your Horoscope Saturn is good but he is under the control of the Boss who is the Mafia Don Shukra, so whenever you have antardasha of saturn you will face troubles and trials and tribulations. This can be proved very well in Your own words when you said that the period of Chandra antardasha was good. Why ? because it was in the control of Saturn who is its Nakshatra Lord. Now some Irony in Your horoscope . Shukra or Venus who is the Mafia Don in Your chart as discussed above, when he himself takes the role of the driver (When you are under the influence of venus antardasha), will give you the best results you will ever have in Your Life. because its Boss is the Most Noblest man Jupiter, who represents the houses 11,2 and 5 in Your Chart. So here the same Mafia Don becomes your benefactor by wearing the clothes of a Driver. And what about Jupiter himself ? When it dons the role of the Driver, it would give you worst results with regards to health. Why ? because it is owned by the Boss, Mars who represents the 6th and the 8th in Your Chart. And here the same Jupiter in above example which gives you health and wealth and love, and fulfillment of desires, when it gets the power to Control, becomes the Mafia Don now. This is Maya. The same planets in the same Horoscope interchange their roles and for once become good, and for once become evil by virtue of changing places. Taking above as clues, you can work out every antardasha of Your Life in 5 minutes, what they will give you. Once you become adept in this form of prognosis, it will just take you few seconds and not even minutes to know what period what results one will have in his Life. Conclusion - No Planet is entirely good or entirely evil. What me may see and percive as benefic or malefic may not be the truth unless the curtain of ignorance is removed from the eyes when one becomes a good astrologer. I have uptil now not even taken the different ages in Your Life in account when these same planets would again change places, and those who may be acting like Yogkarakas in youth may now suddenly change into deadly killers in older age. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > Here are the answers:> > 1) 91-92 I took a break in education. So essentially a stagnant period, but, prepared to come for higher studies. Normally I should have left for my MS in 91, however, circumstances forced me to delay by one year. I also got no financial assistance and had to complete my MS (92-94) through 100% student loans which I paid back by 1996.> > 2) 2003 I did not move to a new house but I refinanced my house (which was actually new and recent because we had bought the house in End of 2000). 2003 eventually turned out to be auspicious because finally after much struggle and prayers and much heart ache, finally my wife was pregnant with our lovely child, who was subsequently born Jan 2004.> > Eager to find out why Saturn is good for me > > > -Manoj> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:49:21 AM> Re: Tri-shad-aya> > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mail> of yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clear> this, that Saturn is good for you .> > 1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new house> during the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a good> period, if you remember ?> > 2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ?> > About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later,> after you reply above question.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> >> > Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than> Lahiri. Here are the details:> >> > June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34,> 12 N 30)> >> > -Manoj> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Sreenadh sreesog@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Manoj Chandran ji,> > That is all very interesting.> > //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was> interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a> weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.//> > Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on> the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma.. Why? You might have> used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0> deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra> hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per> chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! > So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th!> No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much.> > Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB?> I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in> another mail.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > >> > > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I> learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary> reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in> romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at> 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha> will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during> this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and> immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending> and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However,> every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I> dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single> pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in> Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In> 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here> > since> > > then.> > >> > > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my> life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your> static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and> growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from> serious trouble.> > >> > > -Manoj Chandran> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL)> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji,> > > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for> Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do> you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not,> here it is -> > > * "Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame"> [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death> of first wife]> > > This means that either your first wife will die, and with the> second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a> very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will> never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss> of first love and relation heart burn is certain.> > > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results,> not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord> and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of> Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hope> you have heared the dictum - "Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa> budhastaiyutaH" [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along> with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in> your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is> placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will> have more bad results to deliver than good results.> > > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17> years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you> alone.. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the> relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife)> argument support the above indications.> > > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT> suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th> lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong> combinations. .> > > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by> quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we> can proceed.> > > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm> or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji,> > > >> > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested,> in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have Scorpio> Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house> is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the> ages of (4 -17 years).> > > >> > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis> might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular> dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at> several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold> my thoughts for later.> > > >> > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is> otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does> not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated> and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think> this should be a good test case.> > > >> > > > -Manoj Chandran> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dear Friend, Thanks for the answers. regards, Manoj Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 4:40:49 PMRe: Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Mr Manoj Kumar, Scorpio Lagna, Moon in Cancer in the 9th and Saturn Exalted in D-9 matches my chart with Lahiri Ayanamsha. My grand father was himself an astrologer so I am very confident of the accuracy of my birth time. Here are the answers: 1) We are two brothers, (one younger) and I had a much younger sister whom I lost within a few days. I am only aware of 3 pregnancies for my mom. 2) I am the eldest. 3) Yes, I am an Engineer with one year break in education. 4) I started earning in my 24th year, which is probably just average and not very early. 5) No I have no management education. 6) I have never owned a business on my own, have always worked for companies. 7) I had already relocated to the US in fall of 1992 and have been here since. 8) My marriage was in July 1997 and yes I am painfully aware of the marriage karma in this lifetime. 9) I dont remember health of my father causing any worry for me during this period. He was doing fine healthwise but had some money problems. 10) Actually my coborn is doing very well for himself now. He just had a beautiful baby but because of all the problems in my life, unfortunately we are not as close as I would like it to be. 11) Not exactly at the time of Birth by when I was 1 year old my father was inolved in a head-on collision with a Lorry at high speeds. I was in the car as well. Miraculously I was unhurt. My father suffered serious injury to his abdomen and a large portion of his large intestine had to be removed. But miraculously he survived the surgery and remains active and healthy to this day by the grace of God. Hope that helps. -Manoj Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, June 2, 2009 1:40:35 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Mr. Manoj Chandran, With the birth data provided by you, I get Scorpio Lagna and Cancer Rashi. You were born in the dasha of Saturn. Please answer the following questions to establish the correctness of your chart as it is at 2 degrees and could be the last navamsha of Libra too. i. Are you three brothers and sisters or more? Your mother could have had in all 5 pregnancies. ii. Elder one than you could be born between 1966-68? iii. Your education could be in science stream with a break or change in education. iv. you could have started earning early in life. v. you could have later entered into management kind of education vi. I see you working or earning something of your own around or after 1991. vii. I see you relocating to a different place, (could be a foreign land too) in or after 1998. viii. I see your marriage too after 1998, though marriage a difficult area in the life of the person having this horoscope. ix. your earnings improved much better than before after 1998. x. health of your father could be a cause of worry during the same period. xi. one of younger co-borns could be undergoing a tough period now and that could be a major cause of worry of you presently. xii. there could have been some health problem at the time of your birth and your mother could have also faced some health problem during your birth or during the pregnancy when you were in her womb. Kindly answer the questions. regards, Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, The 3rd and the 4th house as well as the 6th house are good for material gains. The bottle of Gulab Jal even if placed in a cupboard not befitting it, yet when opened only Gulab Jal will come out and nothing else. Just like the Sandalwood agarbatti, wherever you may keep it, but once you burn it, only fragrance will pervade the air. Saturn in your chart gets the Exalted position in the Navamsha, which is what results you will get when you have antardasha of Chandra in any Mahadasha period. regards/Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Thank you for the beautiful lesson in Nakshatras based Astrology. As you rightly say, truth is very simple and uncomplicated. > > However I have one question. I understand that Jupiter is a Noble man due to his auspicious house ownership and benific status. How come the Noble status for Saturn? I understand how he influences my chart from your explanation. But I am still confused on why he is giving Noble results despite being Neecha in the 6th house and owning 3rd and 4th houses? > > I am grateful for your knowledge sharing. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 11:17:52 AM > Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > Sorry for the delay in replying you. I was waiting for night to fall and a calm atmosphere to write to you. > Now read my mail properly because this is Real astrology and if one can understand this, then he has understood astrology. Rest, tonnes of theories are not going to work in actual but can only be done to make an impression, but actual astrology in simple language is this - > > I did not tell you the reasons previously why Saturn was good for you and not be blamed or made the culprit, because I wanted you to be commital in your words and now after your reply has come, I am assured and happy to relate what I was talking of since you have yourself now proved that Saturn is good for you. How ? > > First Scenario > You have a friend who is a noble man and his driver knocks on your Home main gate saying " Boss has sent some gifts to You " . You can expect some happiness from his gifts. > > Second Scenario > You know somebody who is a Mafia and not a good man to deal with, and his Driver comes and knocks on your Gate, and says " Boss has sent some gifts to you " You can now sense the incoming trouble due to the receipts of his gifts. > > You have accepted now that 91-92 was a bad period for You .. You were running Ketu antardasha in this period. But Ketu is not bad. The problem comes from Shukra. > Here Ketu was the driver and Shukra is the mafia Don. > > You have accepted that 2003 was good for You. You were running the antardasha of Chandra then. But Chandra does not bring in the good.. Shani brings it. Here Chandra is the Driver and Shani is the Noble man. > > What is the connection between Ketu-Shukra, and Chandra-Shani in Your Horoscope ? > > Ketu is in Nakshatra of Shukra, and Chandra is in Nakshatra of Shani. > > We cannot blame the Driver for who his Boss is, and since the Driver is in the conrol of the Boss, you could either blame the Boss if he is a bad man, or bless him if he is a good man. But the Driver cannot be blamed. > > In Your Horoscope Saturn is good but he is under the control of the Boss who is the Mafia Don Shukra, so whenever you have antardasha of saturn you will face troubles and trials and tribulations. > > This can be proved very well in Your own words when you said that the period of Chandra antardasha was good. Why ? because it was in the control of Saturn who is its Nakshatra Lord. > > Now some Irony in Your horoscope . > > Shukra or Venus who is the Mafia Don in Your chart as discussed above, when he himself takes the role of the driver (When you are under the influence of venus antardasha), will give you the best results you will ever have in Your Life. because its Boss is the Most Noblest man Jupiter, who represents the houses 11,2 and 5 in Your Chart. So here the same Mafia Don becomes your benefactor by wearing the clothes of a Driver. > > And what about Jupiter himself ? > When it dons the role of the Driver, it would give you worst results with regards to health. Why ? because it is owned by the Boss, Mars who represents the 6th and the 8th in Your Chart. And here the same Jupiter in above example which gives you health and wealth and love, and fulfillment of desires, when it gets the power to Control, becomes the Mafia Don now. > > This is Maya. The same planets in the same Horoscope interchange their roles and for once become good, and for once become evil by virtue of changing places. > > Taking above as clues, you can work out every antardasha of Your Life in 5 minutes, what they will give you. Once you become adept in this form of prognosis, it will just take you few seconds and not even minutes to know what period what results one will have in his Life. > > Conclusion - No Planet is entirely good or entirely evil. What me may see and percive as benefic or malefic may not be the truth unless the curtain of ignorance is removed from the eyes when one becomes a good astrologer. I have uptil now not even taken the different ages in Your Life in account when these same planets would again change places, and those who may be acting like Yogkarakas in youth may now suddenly change into deadly killers in older age. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Here are the answers: > > > > 1) 91-92 I took a break in education. So essentially a stagnant period, but, prepared to come for higher studies. Normally I should have left for my MS in 91, however, circumstances forced me to delay by one year. I also got no financial assistance and had to complete my MS (92-94) through 100% student loans which I paid back by 1996. > > > > 2) 2003 I did not move to a new house but I refinanced my house (which was actually new and recent because we had bought the house in End of 2000). 2003 eventually turned out to be auspicious because finally after much struggle and prayers and much heart ache, finally my wife was pregnant with our lovely child, who was subsequently born Jan 2004. > > > > Eager to find out why Saturn is good for me > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:49:21 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mail > > of yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clear > > this, that Saturn is good for you . > > > > 1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new house > > during the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a good > > period, if you remember ? > > > > 2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ? > > > > About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later, > > after you reply above question. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than > > Lahiri. Here are the details: > > > > > > June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34, > > 12 N 30) > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > > That is all very interesting. > > > //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was > > interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a > > weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.// > > > Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on > > the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma... Why? You might have > > used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0 > > deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra > > hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per > > chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! > > So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th! > > No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much. > > > Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB? > > I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in > > another mail. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > > > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I > > learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary > > reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in > > romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at > > 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha > > will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during > > this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and > > immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending > > and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However, > > every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I > > dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single > > pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in > > Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In > > 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here > > > since > > > > then. > > > > > > > > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my > > life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your > > static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and > > growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from > > serious trouble. > > > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > > > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for > > Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do > > you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not, > > here it is - > > > > * " Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame " > > [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death > > of first wife] > > > > This means that either your first wife will die, and with the > > second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a > > very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will > > never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss > > of first love and relation heart burn is certain. > > > > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results, > > not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord > > and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of > > Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hope > > you have heared the dictum - " Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa > > budhastaiyutaH " [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along > > with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in > > your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is > > placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will > > have more bad results to deliver than good results. > > > > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17 > > years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you > > alone.. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the > > relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife) > > argument support the above indications. > > > > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT > > suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th > > lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong > > combinations. . > > > > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by > > quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we > > can proceed. > > > > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm > > or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > > > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested, > > in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have Scorpio > > Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house > > is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the > > ages of (4 -17 years). > > > > > > > > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis > > might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular > > dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at > > several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold > > my thoughts for later. > > > > > > > > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is > > otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does > > not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated > > and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think > > this should be a good test case. > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dear Amitji, Thanks. I wish so much that there were many astrologers who would be interested in the 1)What will happen 2)When will happen and 3) How it will happen, rather than pages and pages of theoretical descriptions which bear no predictive stuff. Because ultimately that is what one wants from astrology,to know what good will happen or what bad will happen in future, so that one can put in more efforts or guard himself respectively in both cases. No one visits astrologers for Esoterics. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Amit Nakai " <amit.nakai wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > Superb! Excellent description. > > You score sixer's once in every 6 months or 1 year with your post, which makes it so easy for a person to understand what is predictive astrology. > Keep it up. > > Warm Regards > Amit Nakai > > > Bhaskar > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:47 PM > > Re: Tri-shad-aya Dear Manoj ji, > > Sorry for the delay in replying you. I was waiting for night to fall and a calm atmosphere to write to you. > > Now read my mail properly because this is Real astrology and if one can understand this, then he has understood astrology. Rest, tonnes of theories are not going to work in actual but can only be done to make an impression, but actual astrology in simple language is this - > > I did not tell you the reasons previously why Saturn was good for you and not be blamed or made the culprit, because I wanted you to be commital in your words and now after your reply has come, I am assured and happy to relate what I was talking of since you have yourself now proved that Saturn is good for you. How ? > > First Scenario > You have a friend who is a noble man and his driver knocks on your Home main gate saying " Boss has sent some gifts to You " . You can expect some happiness from his gifts. > > Second Scenario > You know somebody who is a Mafia and not a good man to deal with, and his Driver comes and knocks on your Gate, and says " Boss has sent some gifts to you " You can now sense the incoming trouble due to the receipts of his gifts. > > You have accepted now that 91-92 was a bad period for You . You were running Ketu antardasha in this period. But Ketu is not bad. The problem comes from Shukra. > Here Ketu was the driver and Shukra is the mafia Don. > > You have accepted that 2003 was good for You. You were running the antardasha of Chandra then. But Chandra does not bring in the good. Shani brings it. Here Chandra is the Driver and Shani is the Noble man. > > What is the connection between Ketu-Shukra, and Chandra-Shani in Your Horoscope ? > > Ketu is in Nakshatra of Shukra, and Chandra is in Nakshatra of Shani. > > We cannot blame the Driver for who his Boss is, and since the Driver is in the conrol of the Boss, you could either blame the Boss if he is a bad man, or bless him if he is a good man. But the Driver cannot be blamed. > > In Your Horoscope Saturn is good but he is under the control of the Boss who is the Mafia Don Shukra, so whenever you have antardasha of saturn you will face troubles and trials and tribulations. > > This can be proved very well in Your own words when you said that the period of Chandra antardasha was good. Why ? because it was in the control of Saturn who is its Nakshatra Lord. > > Now some Irony in Your horoscope . > > Shukra or Venus who is the Mafia Don in Your chart as discussed above, when he himself takes the role of the driver (When you are under the influence of venus antardasha), will give you the best results you will ever have in Your Life. because its Boss is the Most Noblest man Jupiter, who represents the houses 11,2 and 5 in Your Chart. So here the same Mafia Don becomes your benefactor by wearing the clothes of a Driver. > > And what about Jupiter himself ? > When it dons the role of the Driver, it would give you worst results with regards to health. Why ? because it is owned by the Boss, Mars who represents the 6th and the 8th in Your Chart. And here the same Jupiter in above example which gives you health and wealth and love, and fulfillment of desires, when it gets the power to Control, becomes the Mafia Don now. > > This is Maya. The same planets in the same Horoscope interchange their roles and for once become good, and for once become evil by virtue of changing places. > > Taking above as clues, you can work out every antardasha of Your Life in 5 minutes, what they will give you. Once you become adept in this form of prognosis, it will just take you few seconds and not even minutes to know what period what results one will have in his Life. > > Conclusion - No Planet is entirely good or entirely evil. What me may see and percive as benefic or malefic may not be the truth unless the curtain of ignorance is removed from the eyes when one becomes a good astrologer. I have uptil now not even taken the different ages in Your Life in account when these same planets would again change places, and those who may be acting like Yogkarakas in youth may now suddenly change into deadly killers in older age. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Here are the answers: > > > > 1) 91-92 I took a break in education. So essentially a stagnant period, but, prepared to come for higher studies. Normally I should have left for my MS in 91, however, circumstances forced me to delay by one year. I also got no financial assistance and had to complete my MS (92-94) through 100% student loans which I paid back by 1996. > > > > 2) 2003 I did not move to a new house but I refinanced my house (which was actually new and recent because we had bought the house in End of 2000). 2003 eventually turned out to be auspicious because finally after much struggle and prayers and much heart ache, finally my wife was pregnant with our lovely child, who was subsequently born Jan 2004. > > > > Eager to find out why Saturn is good for me > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:49:21 AM > > Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mail > > of yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clear > > this, that Saturn is good for you . > > > > 1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new house > > during the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a good > > period, if you remember ? > > > > 2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ? > > > > About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later, > > after you reply above question. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than > > Lahiri. Here are the details: > > > > > > June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34, > > 12 N 30) > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > > That is all very interesting. > > > //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was > > interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a > > weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.// > > > Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on > > the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma.. Why? You might have > > used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0 > > deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra > > hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per > > chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! > > So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th! > > No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much. > > > Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB? > > I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in > > another mail. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > > > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I > > learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary > > reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in > > romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at > > 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha > > will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during > > this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and > > immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending > > and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However, > > every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I > > dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single > > pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in > > Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In > > 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here > > > since > > > > then. > > > > > > > > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my > > life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your > > static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and > > growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from > > serious trouble. > > > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > > > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for > > Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do > > you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not, > > here it is - > > > > * " Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame " > > [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death > > of first wife] > > > > This means that either your first wife will die, and with the > > second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a > > very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will > > never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss > > of first love and relation heart burn is certain. > > > > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results, > > not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord > > and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of > > Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hope > > you have heared the dictum - " Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa > > budhastaiyutaH " [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along > > with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in > > your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is > > placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will > > have more bad results to deliver than good results. > > > > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17 > > years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you > > alone.. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the > > relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife) > > argument support the above indications. > > > > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT > > suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th > > lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong > > combinations. . > > > > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by > > quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we > > can proceed. > > > > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm > > or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > > > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested, > > in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have Scorpio > > Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house > > is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the > > ages of (4 -17 years). > > > > > > > > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis > > might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular > > dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at > > several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold > > my thoughts for later. > > > > > > > > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is > > otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does > > not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated > > and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think > > this should be a good test case. > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dear Manojji, I have to write this reply again from memory as had not copied it when I posted it last , and it did got lost in the myriad of messages not appearing due to various technical reasons unfathomable by us. The 3d house is not an evil house. And neither is the 4th house. The 3rd is courage, consciousness, Intelligence, wour communications to others etc. The 3rd house is most important for a pregnant lady to be activated for child birth. The 3rd house is the house which will lead one to the 4th house -to buy a new house or flat whenever he wants to. The 4th house is not an evil house again . House, garden, mother, agriculture, education, Vehicles, the Milk and Sharbat you drink, Land etc. What is bad about the above houses if one checks positively. The 6th House - Employment, Job,Service, Loans, Money received from clients, business transactions, services given or offered, or remunerations, Brokerages and commissions recieved. Loans, Profits. Overdraft, pets. What is so bad about above ? And you are saying that Saturn is Neecha. Please check the position of this saturn in Your Navamsha Chart. It gets Exalted there (In the 4th House if I remember well). Now do you believe Saturn is good for You ? Though it appears neecha ? regards, Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Thank you for the beautiful lesson in Nakshatras based Astrology. As you rightly say, truth is very simple and uncomplicated. > > However I have one question. I understand that Jupiter is a Noble man due to his auspicious house ownership and benific status. How come the Noble status for Saturn? I understand how he influences my chart from your explanation. But I am still confused on why he is giving Noble results despite being Neecha in the 6th house and owning 3rd and 4th houses? > > I am grateful for your knowledge sharing. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 11:17:52 AM > Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > Sorry for the delay in replying you. I was waiting for night to fall and a calm atmosphere to write to you. > Now read my mail properly because this is Real astrology and if one can understand this, then he has understood astrology. Rest, tonnes of theories are not going to work in actual but can only be done to make an impression, but actual astrology in simple language is this - > > I did not tell you the reasons previously why Saturn was good for you and not be blamed or made the culprit, because I wanted you to be commital in your words and now after your reply has come, I am assured and happy to relate what I was talking of since you have yourself now proved that Saturn is good for you. How ? > > First Scenario > You have a friend who is a noble man and his driver knocks on your Home main gate saying " Boss has sent some gifts to You " . You can expect some happiness from his gifts. > > Second Scenario > You know somebody who is a Mafia and not a good man to deal with, and his Driver comes and knocks on your Gate, and says " Boss has sent some gifts to you " You can now sense the incoming trouble due to the receipts of his gifts. > > You have accepted now that 91-92 was a bad period for You .. You were running Ketu antardasha in this period. But Ketu is not bad. The problem comes from Shukra. > Here Ketu was the driver and Shukra is the mafia Don. > > You have accepted that 2003 was good for You. You were running the antardasha of Chandra then. But Chandra does not bring in the good.. Shani brings it. Here Chandra is the Driver and Shani is the Noble man. > > What is the connection between Ketu-Shukra, and Chandra-Shani in Your Horoscope ? > > Ketu is in Nakshatra of Shukra, and Chandra is in Nakshatra of Shani. > > We cannot blame the Driver for who his Boss is, and since the Driver is in the conrol of the Boss, you could either blame the Boss if he is a bad man, or bless him if he is a good man. But the Driver cannot be blamed. > > In Your Horoscope Saturn is good but he is under the control of the Boss who is the Mafia Don Shukra, so whenever you have antardasha of saturn you will face troubles and trials and tribulations. > > This can be proved very well in Your own words when you said that the period of Chandra antardasha was good. Why ? because it was in the control of Saturn who is its Nakshatra Lord. > > Now some Irony in Your horoscope . > > Shukra or Venus who is the Mafia Don in Your chart as discussed above, when he himself takes the role of the driver (When you are under the influence of venus antardasha), will give you the best results you will ever have in Your Life. because its Boss is the Most Noblest man Jupiter, who represents the houses 11,2 and 5 in Your Chart. So here the same Mafia Don becomes your benefactor by wearing the clothes of a Driver. > > And what about Jupiter himself ? > When it dons the role of the Driver, it would give you worst results with regards to health. Why ? because it is owned by the Boss, Mars who represents the 6th and the 8th in Your Chart. And here the same Jupiter in above example which gives you health and wealth and love, and fulfillment of desires, when it gets the power to Control, becomes the Mafia Don now. > > This is Maya. The same planets in the same Horoscope interchange their roles and for once become good, and for once become evil by virtue of changing places. > > Taking above as clues, you can work out every antardasha of Your Life in 5 minutes, what they will give you. Once you become adept in this form of prognosis, it will just take you few seconds and not even minutes to know what period what results one will have in his Life. > > Conclusion - No Planet is entirely good or entirely evil. What me may see and percive as benefic or malefic may not be the truth unless the curtain of ignorance is removed from the eyes when one becomes a good astrologer. I have uptil now not even taken the different ages in Your Life in account when these same planets would again change places, and those who may be acting like Yogkarakas in youth may now suddenly change into deadly killers in older age. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Here are the answers: > > > > 1) 91-92 I took a break in education. So essentially a stagnant period, but, prepared to come for higher studies. Normally I should have left for my MS in 91, however, circumstances forced me to delay by one year. I also got no financial assistance and had to complete my MS (92-94) through 100% student loans which I paid back by 1996. > > > > 2) 2003 I did not move to a new house but I refinanced my house (which was actually new and recent because we had bought the house in End of 2000). 2003 eventually turned out to be auspicious because finally after much struggle and prayers and much heart ache, finally my wife was pregnant with our lovely child, who was subsequently born Jan 2004. > > > > Eager to find out why Saturn is good for me > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Tuesday, June 2, 2009 12:49:21 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > Sorry for butting in. I have not read your whole thread except one mail > > of yours where you mentioned that Saturn is bad for you. Let me clear > > this, that Saturn is good for you . > > > > 1)Can You tell me if you made a shift, to a new location/new house > > during the year 2003, and how was that period for you ? Was it a good > > period, if you remember ? > > > > 2) Can You tell me whether 91-92 was a bad period for you ? > > > > About details on why Saturn is good for you, I will provide you later, > > after you reply above question. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > Interesting. I have so far never tried any other Ayanamsha other than > > Lahiri. Here are the details: > > > > > > June 8 1970, 5:02 PM (17:02), Tiruppatur, Tamil Nadu, India (78 E 34, > > 12 N 30) > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, June 1, 2009 11:47:04 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Tri-shad-aya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > > That is all very interesting. > > > //Primary reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was > > interested in romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a > > weak avastha at 0 deg 8 min.// > > > Actually I never casted your chart, but stated the results based on > > the combination your provided. Now I am dilemma... Why? You might have > > used Lahari ayanamsa to caste the chart - and the Mercury logitude is 0 > > deg 8 min in Taurus as per that. I use Surya siddhanta based chandra > > hari Ayanamsa, which is 44 min more than lahari. This means that, as per > > chandrahari ayanamsa, your mercury would be in Aries and NOT in Taurus! > > So now, for me, you got 8th and 11th lord Mercury in 6th and not in 7th! > > No wonder that the results, I stated eariler did not apply to you much. > > > Can you provide the full details of your horoscope - DOB, POB, TOB? > > I will try to give a reading for Mercury in 6th for your horoscope in > > another mail. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > > > The results that you have just described is consistent with what I > > learnt through my Jyotish study, but did not occur as stated.. Primary > > reason probably being that Me dasha was over before I was interested in > > romance. Another reason could be that Me itself is in a weak avastha at > > 0 deg 8 min. According to what I was taught 8th lord weakened by avastha > > will reduce its destructive capacity. Regarding exact results during > > this dasha, education was very successful after many struggles and > > immense hard work. I graduated with my BE in 1991 just as Me was ending > > and managed to be ranked within top 10 in University of Madras. However, > > every semester was difficult and I was having fear of failure. I > > dedicated every second of my time to intense study and with single > > pointed devotion cleared the exams. Still ultimately there was break in > > Education between 1991 to 1992 (Dasha transition between Me and Ke). In > > 1992 I started my MS in Arizona and have been here > > > since > > > > then. > > > > > > > > However, the vasana of 8th lord in the 7th remains intact in my > > life. Sun in the 7th is also not very conducive to married life. So your > > static analysis remains accurate. Me dasha coming a little early and > > growing up in a conservative culture/family is what saved me from > > serious trouble. > > > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Monday, June 1, 2009 10:12:52 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu_ 1H (11HL) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj Chandran ji, > > > > Your chart is not only interesting as 11th lord placed in 7th for > > Scorpio lagna, but also as 8th lord placed in 7th for Scorpio lagna. Do > > you really know the major result attributed to this combination? If not, > > here it is - > > > > * " Hanti pradhamam vadhum vrisha gata chandrajmaja saptame " > > [Mercuy in 7th, in Taurus sign (for Scorpio lagna), will cause the death > > of first wife] > > > > This means that either your first wife will die, and with the > > second wife you will have a happy married life. OR that you will have a > > very strong love relation which was expected to reach marriage, but will > > never reach it and the relation will break in the middle. Any way loss > > of first love and relation heart burn is certain. > > > > Noe of us will expect that Mercury to give much benefic results, > > not because it is 11th lord, but because of the fact that it is 8th lord > > and as such a confirmed malefic. This is re-stated by the presence of > > Sun in Taurus. why? (Also in the 7th house is Lord of 10th Surya).. Hope > > you have heared the dictum - " Ksheenentvarka maheepatarka tanaya papa > > budhastaiyutaH " [Weak Moon, Sun, Mars, Saturn and Mercury placed along > > with any of these malefics is a malefic]. This means that Mercury in > > your chart (8th lord placed in 7th), becomes a malefic since it is > > placed along with another malefic Sun. So certainly that mercury will > > have more bad results to deliver than good results. > > > > Anyway, for you the mercury dasa is over between the ages of 4 -17 > > years. So the above total story may not be completly applicable to you > > alone.. Since that mercury is with Sun you can ascribe it to the > > relatives signified by Sun as well. Actually the 11th lord (2nd wife) > > argument support the above indications. > > > > Anyway, your chart is one with a unique yoga and generally is NOT > > suited to discuss the general results that should be ascribed to 11th > > lord or 11th lords dasa, due to the strong presence of such strong > > combinations. . > > > > Anyway, if you want to discuss this total placement further, by > > quoting other results as well (I have mentioned only one above), then we > > can proceed. > > > > I am much interest to know the real story. Can you please confirm > > or negate the above result? That would be a real learning experience. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh Ji, > > > > > > > > > > I can offer my own chart's example for the group, if interested, > > in testing Parashar's dictum on Vim Dasha of 11th Lord.. I have Scorpio > > Lagna with Mercury (11th Lord) in the 7th house. Also in the 7th house > > is Lord of 10th Surya. I have already completed Me dasha between the > > ages of (4 -17 years). > > > > > > > > > > Although Me is also the 8th lord for Scorpio Lagna, this analysis > > might still bring up interesting points regarding that particular > > dictum. I have my own observations through experience of looking at > > several charts regarding this specific dictum from BPHS, but I will hold > > my thoughts for later. > > > > > > > > > > For the purpose of analysis, I will also state that Me is > > otherwise unafflicted in the chart (no other malefic aspect), but does > > not get any benific aspect either. Further Su and Me are well separated > > and hence the Budha-Aditya yoga is not sullied by combustion. I think > > this should be a good test case. > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj Chandran > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, Thank you for the explanation and especially taking the effort to type it twice. Yes, now I understand why Saturn is actually good for me. Your reply is much appreciated. Best Regards, -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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