Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Dear members, Just putting some clarity Fire Signs = East Earth Signs = South Airy Signs = West Watery Signs = North In Nadi system, the sign in which planets are placed, that sign direction rules i.e. planet's own direction is over-ruled !! or not considered. If there is concentration of planets in a particular direction, the native's " lucky " direction would be accordingly same as the indicated sign. That is why some people going abroad on work, go either extreme West or South East or only Mi ddle East..... through proper study of planet & nakshatra lords, one can say about travel or career direction ....for each country is represented by a planet...sign is showing direction.....i.e. those going to USA may not be working or going to Europe in their life time...other than for tourist activity...and vice versa...etc.. These small things can stun any astro-customer....if properly used. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 dear sreeram, yes u r absolutely correct. regardsguru.naga --- On Thu, 4/6/09, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Re:Sign_Planet_Direction Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 9:39 AM Dear members,Just putting some clarityFire Signs = EastEarth Signs = SouthAiry Signs = WestWatery Signs = NorthIn Nadi system, the sign in which planets are placed, that signdirection rules i.e. planet's own direction is over-ruled !! or notconsidered.If there is concentration of planets in a particular direction, thenative's "lucky" direction would be accordingly same as the indicatedsign.That is why some people going abroad on work, go either extreme West orSouth East or only Mi ddle East...... through proper study of planet & nakshatra lords, one can say about travel or career direction ....foreach country is represented by a planet...sign is showingdirection... ..i.e. those going to USA may not be working or going toEurope in their life time...other than for tourist activity...and viceversa...etc. .These small things can stun any astro-customer. ...if properly used.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivas Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Dear Mr. Sreeram, Thanks for the explanation of directions in Nadi system. Is the nadi system compatible with the Parashari system or is it completely different. Also I am assuming this is the " real " Nadi system and NOT the " so called Nadi " system where dead people in the astral plane are invoked by mantras to do psychic readings through automatic writing. Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Thursday, June 4, 2009 2:39:51 AM Re:Sign_Planet_Direction Dear members, Just putting some clarity Fire Signs = East Earth Signs = South Airy Signs = West Watery Signs = North In Nadi system, the sign in which planets are placed, that sign direction rules i.e. planet's own direction is over-ruled !! or not considered. If there is concentration of planets in a particular direction, the native's " lucky " direction would be accordingly same as the indicated sign. That is why some people going abroad on work, go either extreme West or South East or only Mi ddle East..... through proper study of planet & nakshatra lords, one can say about travel or career direction ....for each country is represented by a planet...sign is showing direction... ..i.e. those going to USA may not be working or going to Europe in their life time...other than for tourist activity...and vice versa...etc. . These small things can stun any astro-customer. ...if properly used. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Dear Mr.Sreeram, I just realized I need to rephrase the question because it may have sounded strange (may be even rude). What I meant to say was that I have stayed away from the " Nadi " system because of " allegations " that modern day Nadi astrologers use Astral entities to do psychic readings in the guise of Nadi. It sounds like the " Nadi " you and guru.nag sir are referring to are different. Is this system completely different from the Parashari system? Are there good books to learn from? Kindly elucidate and please excuse my poorly worded previous email. Much Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Friday, June 5, 2009 7:34:00 AM Re:Sign_Planet_Direction Dear Mr. Sreeram, Thanks for the explanation of directions in Nadi system. Is the nadi system compatible with the Parashari system or is it completely different. Also I am assuming this is the " real " Nadi system and NOT the " so called Nadi " system where dead people in the astral plane are invoked by mantras to do psychic readings through automatic writing. Regards, -Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . .com Thursday, June 4, 2009 2:39:51 AM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction Dear members, Just putting some clarity Fire Signs = East Earth Signs = South Airy Signs = West Watery Signs = North In Nadi system, the sign in which planets are placed, that sign direction rules i.e. planet's own direction is over-ruled !! or not considered. If there is concentration of planets in a particular direction, the native's " lucky " direction would be accordingly same as the indicated sign. That is why some people going abroad on work, go either extreme West or South East or only Mi ddle East..... through proper study of planet & nakshatra lords, one can say about travel or career direction ....for each country is represented by a planet...sign is showing direction... ..i.e. those going to USA may not be working or going to Europe in their life time...other than for tourist activity...and vice versa...etc. . These small things can stun any astro-customer. ...if properly used. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 dear mr.manoj chandran sir, in NADI System is one of easily learn and predict a horoscope without lagna and dasa, pukthi. lot of NADI system is there, some of is chandra kala nadi, bruhu nandhi nadi, sugar nadi, agathiar nadi... etc., my prediction based on bruhu nandhi nadi. it is more related to parasarari method. if u read " brugu nandhi nadi " by R.G.RAO from bangalore it is very easy and more informative book for learning and learned astrologer. it is having maximam of 30 rules - 50 rules only. with regards guru.naga --- On Fri, 5/6/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Re:Sign_Planet_Direction Friday, 5 June, 2009, 4:05 PM Dear Mr.Sreeram, I just realized I need to rephrase the question because it may have sounded strange (may be even rude). What I meant to say was that I have stayed away from the " Nadi " system because of " allegations " that modern day Nadi astrologers use Astral entities to do psychic readings in the guise of Nadi. It sounds like the " Nadi " you and guru.nag sir are referring to are different. Is this system completely different from the Parashari system? Are there good books to learn from? Kindly elucidate and please excuse my poorly worded previous email. Much Regards, -Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, June 5, 2009 7:34:00 AM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction Dear Mr. Sreeram, Thanks for the explanation of directions in Nadi system. Is the nadi system compatible with the Parashari system or is it completely different. Also I am assuming this is the " real " Nadi system and NOT the " so called Nadi " system where dead people in the astral plane are invoked by mantras to do psychic readings through automatic writing. Regards, -Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . .com Thursday, June 4, 2009 2:39:51 AM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction Dear members, Just putting some clarity Fire Signs = East Earth Signs = South Airy Signs = West Watery Signs = North In Nadi system, the sign in which planets are placed, that sign direction rules i.e. planet's own direction is over-ruled !! or not considered. If there is concentration of planets in a particular direction, the native's " lucky " direction would be accordingly same as the indicated sign. That is why some people going abroad on work, go either extreme West or South East or only Mi ddle East..... through proper study of planet & nakshatra lords, one can say about travel or career direction ....for each country is represented by a planet...sign is showing direction... ..i.e. those going to USA may not be working or going to Europe in their life time...other than for tourist activity...and vice versa...etc. . These small things can stun any astro-customer. ...if properly used. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 dear Guru naga ji did u see what is the flaw of brigu nandi nadi technics explained in RG rao s books ??what was ur exprnce ? I mean logical conclusions too .( here i would like to say i am not against the sign planet directions generaly in all nadies i am wasking abt the methods and its efficacy )regrds sunil nair , guru_naga_astrologer wrote:>> > dear mr.manoj chandran sir,> > in NADI System is one of easily learn and predict a horoscope without lagna and dasa, pukthi. lot of NADI system is there, some of is chandra kala nadi, bruhu nandhi nadi, sugar nadi, agathiar nadi... etc., my prediction based on bruhu nandhi nadi. it is more related to parasarari method. if u read "brugu nandhi nadi" by R.G.RAO from bangalore it is very easy and more informative book for learning and learned astrologer. it is having maximam of 30 rules - 50 rules only.> > with regards> guru.naga> > > --- On Fri, 5/6/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj wrote:> > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj Re:Sign_Planet_Direction> > Friday, 5 June, 2009, 4:05 PM> > > Dear Mr.Sreeram,> > I just realized I need to rephrase the question because it may have sounded strange (may be even rude). What I meant to say was that I have stayed away from the "Nadi" system because of "allegations" that modern day Nadi astrologers use Astral entities to do psychic readings in the guise of Nadi.> > It sounds like the "Nadi" you and guru.nag sir are referring to are different. Is this system completely different from the Parashari system? Are there good books to learn from?> > Kindly elucidate and please excuse my poorly worded previous email.> > Much Regards,> > -Manoj> > ____________ _________ _________ __> Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, June 5, 2009 7:34:00 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction> > Dear Mr. Sreeram,> > Thanks for the explanation of directions in Nadi system. Is the nadi system compatible with the Parashari system or is it completely different. Also I am assuming this is the "real" Nadi system and NOT the "so called Nadi" system where dead people in the astral plane are invoked by mantras to do psychic readings through automatic writing.> > Regards,> > -Manoj> > ____________ _________ _________ __> sreeram srinivas sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com>> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . .com> Thursday, June 4, 2009 2:39:51 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction> > Dear members,> > Just putting some clarity> > Fire Signs = East> > Earth Signs = South> > Airy Signs = West> > Watery Signs = North> > In Nadi system, the sign in which planets are placed, that sign> direction rules i.e. planet's own direction is over-ruled !! or not> considered.> > If there is concentration of planets in a particular direction, the> native's "lucky" direction would be accordingly same as the indicated> sign.> > That is why some people going abroad on work, go either extreme West or> South East or only Mi ddle East..... through proper study of planet & > nakshatra lords, one can say about travel or career direction ....for> each country is represented by a planet...sign is showing> direction... ..i.e. those going to USA may not be working or going to> Europe in their life time...other than for tourist activity...and vice> versa...etc. .> > These small things can stun any astro-customer. ...if properly used.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Sunil Nairji, My chart is there in this book suggested, except for the position of Moon which changes in my chart, rest all planets remain same. A few points (5%) match in the analysis, but disappointing. I have got about 5 books on Nadi translations but not one of them gives clear cut rules on how to judge events, except for a few rules, which one has to locate himself, apply and then understand. Many writers of these books who claim to understand Nadi, do not show us how to use the techniques , so what is the sense ? Anyway I am not here to criticise but just present my views on same. I do like Nadi, and have learnt certain rules , but they do not match in every chart, so probably something is missing in what has come down to us, or rather our understanding is limited to grasp the finer nuances. Or we need somebody real good to explain these to us. The transit rules are what is required to be learnt in Nadi, to grasp the essence of predictive Nadi astrology. regards/Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > dear Guru naga ji > > did u see what is the flaw of brigu nandi nadi technics explained in RG > rao s books ?? > > what was ur exprnce ? I mean logical conclusions too . > > ( here i would like to say i am not against the sign planet directions > generaly in all nadies i am wasking abt the methods and its efficacy ) > > regrds sunil nair > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Respected Bhaskar ji Thanks u got the logic i am waiting for shri Guru naga ji s commnts or explainations if he is basing brigu nandi methods on R G rao and his books .i will tell abt my direct personal meeting with shri RG rao later in grp rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sunil Nairji,> > My chart is there in this book suggested, except for the position of> Moon which changes in my chart, rest all planets remain same. A few> points (5%) match in the analysis, but disappointing.> > I have got about 5 books on Nadi translations but not one of them gives> clear cut rules on how to judge events, except for a few rules, which> one has to locate himself, apply and then understand. Many writers of> these books who claim to understand Nadi, do not show us how to use the> techniques , so what is the sense ?> > Anyway I am not here to criticise but just present my views on same.> > I do like Nadi, and have learnt certain rules , but they do not match in> every chart, so probably something is missing in what has come down to> us, or rather our understanding is limited to grasp the finer nuances.> Or we need somebody real good to explain these to us. The transit rules> are what is required to be learnt in Nadi, to grasp the essence of> predictive Nadi astrology.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > dear Guru naga ji> >> > did u see what is the flaw of brigu nandi nadi technics explained in> RG> > rao s books ??> >> > what was ur exprnce ? I mean logical conclusions too .> >> > ( here i would like to say i am not against the sign planet directions> > generaly in all nadies i am wasking abt the methods and its efficacy )> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 dear mr.sunil nair ji, in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to predict a chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. combine the two chart and give the result for their running matters. for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female venus is lagna. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for example now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict, first we take the planets from aquarious,gemini,and libra also any planet aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the matter can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign. the anathor book of R.G.RAO is "KASHYAPA HORA" Based on nadi system. i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version. i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing in tamil version. that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one. but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran temple astrologers used) with regards guru.naga--- On Sat, 6/6/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re:Sign_Planet_Direction Date: Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 6:01 AM dear Guru naga ji did u see what is the flaw of brigu nandi nadi technics explained in RG rao s books ??what was ur exprnce ? I mean logical conclusions too .( here i would like to say i am not against the sign planet directions generaly in all nadies i am wasking abt the methods and its efficacy )regrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, guru_naga_astrologe r wrote:>> > dear mr.manoj chandran sir,> > in NADI System is one of easily learn and predict a horoscope without lagna and dasa, pukthi. lot of NADI system is there, some of is chandra kala nadi, bruhu nandhi nadi, sugar nadi, agathiar nadi... etc., my prediction based on bruhu nandhi nadi.. it is more related to parasarari method. if u read "brugu nandhi nadi" by R.G.RAO from bangalore it is very easy and more informative book for learning and learned astrologer. it is having maximam of 30 rules - 50 rules only.> > with regards> guru.naga> > > --- On Fri, 5/6/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ... wrote:> > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, 5 June, 2009, 4:05 PM> > > Dear Mr.Sreeram,> > I just realized I need to rephrase the question because it may have sounded strange (may be even rude). What I meant to say was that I have stayed away from the "Nadi" system because of "allegations" that modern day Nadi astrologers use Astral entities to do psychic readings in the guise of Nadi.> > It sounds like the "Nadi" you and guru.nag sir are referring to are different. Is this system completely different from the Parashari system? Are there good books to learn from?> > Kindly elucidate and please excuse my poorly worded previous email.> > Much Regards,> > -Manoj> > ____________ _________ _________ __> Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, June 5, 2009 7:34:00 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction> > Dear Mr. Sreeram,> > Thanks for the explanation of directions in Nadi system. Is the nadi system compatible with the Parashari system or is it completely different. Also I am assuming this is the "real" Nadi system and NOT the "so called Nadi" system where dead people in the astral plane are invoked by mantras to do psychic readings through automatic writing.> > Regards,> > -Manoj> > ____________ _________ _________ __> sreeram srinivas sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com>> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . .com> Thursday, June 4, 2009 2:39:51 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction> > Dear members,> > Just putting some clarity> > Fire Signs = East> > Earth Signs = South> > Airy Signs = West> > Watery Signs = North> > In Nadi system, the sign in which planets are placed, that sign> direction rules i.e. planet's own direction is over-ruled !! or not> considered.> > If there is concentration of planets in a particular direction, the> native's "lucky" direction would be accordingly same as the indicated> sign.> > That is why some people going abroad on work, go either extreme West or> South East or only Mi ddle East..... through proper study of planet & > nakshatra lords, one can say about travel or career direction ....for> each country is represented by a planet....sign is showing> direction... ..i.e. those going to USA may not be working or going to> Europe in their life time...other than for tourist activity...and vice> versa...etc. .> > These small things can stun any astro-customer. ...if properly used.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. /> Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 dear mr. Bhaskar ji, yes u r absolutely correct what u r tell " we need somebody real good to explain these to us. The transit rules are what is required to be learnt in Nadi, to grasp the essence of predictive Nadi astrology " . if u want to learn more about that system here we r teaching free of cost at madurai, tamilnadu at our organisation successfully running at last 14 years at every saturday 11-5pm. with regards guru.naga --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:Sign_Planet_Direction Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 6:34 AM Dear Sunil Nairji, My chart is there in this book suggested, except for the position of Moon which changes in my chart, rest all planets remain same. A few points (5%) match in the analysis, but disappointing. I have got about 5 books on Nadi translations but not one of them gives clear cut rules on how to judge events, except for a few rules, which one has to locate himself, apply and then understand. Many writers of these books who claim to understand Nadi, do not show us how to use the techniques , so what is the sense ? Anyway I am not here to criticise but just present my views on same. I do like Nadi, and have learnt certain rules , but they do not match in every chart, so probably something is missing in what has come down to us, or rather our understanding is limited to grasp the finer nuances. Or we need somebody real good to explain these to us. The transit rules are what is required to be learnt in Nadi, to grasp the essence of predictive Nadi astrology. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > dear Guru naga ji > > did u see what is the flaw of brigu nandi nadi technics explained in RG > rao s books ?? > > what was ur exprnce ? I mean logical conclusions too . > > ( here i would like to say i am not against the sign planet directions > generaly in all nadies i am wasking abt the methods and its efficacy ) > > regrds sunil nair > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 dear guru Naga JI sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna methods But what i am asking is the logic of application i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is max 2 hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in a sign of 2 1/4 days means all the millions born in this world will hav same planetary position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign transit period -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the proportion is higher ) .also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and sani like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability theorys ) This is the one i am asking u to explain sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the logic once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can seperate ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo and none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even the age is same .also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same family and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits max do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth of a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) i am asking explanations for such intricacies rgrds sunil nair , "Guru.nagarajan" <guru_naga_astrologer wrote:>> dear mr.sunil nair ji,> in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to predict a chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. combine the two chart and give the result for their running matters. > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female venus is lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for example now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict, first we take the planets from aquarious,gemini,and libra also any planet aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the matter can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign.> the anathor book of R.G.RAO is "KASHYAPA HORA" Based on nadi system.> i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version.> i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing in tamil version.> that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one.> but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran temple astrologers used)> with regards> guru.naga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Guru. Naga ji, Unfortunately for this cause, I am staying at Bombay so cannot attend this course. If You have some course material and could guide same to me, it would be highly appreciated. I do not mind paying for the course material even if You charge for the same. regards/Bhaskar. , " Guru.nagarajan " <guru_naga_astrologer wrote: > > dear mr. Bhaskar ji, > yes u r absolutely correct what u r tell " we need somebody real good to explain these to us. The transit rules are what is required to be learnt in Nadi, to grasp the essence of > predictive Nadi astrology " . if u want to learn more about that system here we r teaching free of cost at madurai, tamilnadu at our organisation successfully running at last 14 years at every saturday 11-5pm. > with regards > guru.naga > > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re:Sign_Planet_Direction > > Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 6:34 AM > > > Dear Sunil Nairji, > > My chart is there in this book suggested, except for the position of > Moon which changes in my chart, rest all planets remain same. A few > points (5%) match in the analysis, but disappointing. > > I have got about 5 books on Nadi translations but not one of them gives > clear cut rules on how to judge events, except for a few rules, which > one has to locate himself, apply and then understand. Many writers of > these books who claim to understand Nadi, do not show us how to use the > techniques , so what is the sense ? > > Anyway I am not here to criticise but just present my views on same. > > I do like Nadi, and have learnt certain rules , but they do not match in > every chart, so probably something is missing in what has come down to > us, or rather our understanding is limited to grasp the finer nuances. > Or we need somebody real good to explain these to us. The transit rules > are what is required to be learnt in Nadi, to grasp the essence of > predictive Nadi astrology. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > dear Guru naga ji > > > > did u see what is the flaw of brigu nandi nadi technics explained in > RG > > rao s books ?? > > > > what was ur exprnce ? I mean logical conclusions too . > > > > ( here i would like to say i am not against the sign planet directions > > generaly in all nadies i am wasking abt the methods and its efficacy ) > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 // do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth of a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) // Smart observation. regards/Bhaskar. , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > dear guru Naga JI> > sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna methods> > But what i am asking is the logic of application> > i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is max 2> hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in a sign> of 2 1/4 days> > means all the millions born in this world will hav same planetary> position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign transit period> -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the> proportion is higher ) .> > also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and sani> like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability theorys )> > This is the one i am asking u to explain> > sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the logic> once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can seperate> ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo and> none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even the age> is same .> > also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same family> and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits max> > do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth of a> crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast )> > i am asking explanations for such intricacies> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "Guru.nagarajan"> guru_naga_astrologer@ wrote:> >> > dear mr.sunil nair ji,> > in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to predict a> chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. combine the> two chart and give the result for their running matters.> > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female venus is> lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for example> now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict, first> we take the planets from aquarious,gemini,and libra also any planet> aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the matter> can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign.> > the anathor book of R.G.RAO is "KASHYAPA HORA" Based on nadi system.> > i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version.> > i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing in> tamil version.> > that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one.> > but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran> temple astrologers used)> > with regards> > guru.naga> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear respected Bhaskar ji Sure ,I am not against any of those Nadi methods ,which is givn to us by rishies .Even i know there is answer for all my questions givn by them in those nadies or supplementary nadies .But waht i am against is this so called writers ,or revealer's to the world in the name of Nadies ( i mean all those printed materials available in market ) we hav Ravan Samhita,Aruna Samhita ,Brigu Samhita and so many other nadi books available in print and also sold at v high rates in book stall s.but i must say none of them is or has any thing to do with originals ,some r even simple vedic astrology re cycled ,some has some methods which is at very basic levels and then all the rest of book is just jugglery of words .i hav so many wonderfull exprnce with many secret Holders of astrology and nadi astrology .even i had one Siva Sookhsma Nadi Method Astrologer in Banglore ,who also does Hand Reading mainly but advtise as spl technic Siva Sookshma Nadi Method s Specialist ( since it is Lord Siva and the Nadi Methods r Sookshma means More Finer.More precise More accurate ) in banglore who strted running away frm me ,who used to put big advtmnt in Newpapers .( it was almost 7 yrs back he charges those days rs 500 per consultancy may b max he giv u 30 minits ) i had only one tele talk and i introduced my self as Resercher in Nadies and Nadi Litterrature ,And i asked to do a reading and agreed to pay per Hour what ever he demands ( it is not leaf methods /or palm leaf reading ) on my chart with his methods ,Then aftr few hrs of tele talk ( i discussed what r methods i know ,or what methods i had idea of ,but he said his method Very very diffrnt and spl one and no one has this secrets ( Which he boasted that i will b shocked by his accuracy in prediction ) except he and his guru and told me also some name of his guru ,) he agreed for an apptmnt for very next day and on trying to re confirm frm him next day he is already in mumbai at 9 o clock AM ( i talked with him in last nite 10 PM as i first called him and said i will call him later as i wanted to discuss some thing when ever he is free ,so he asked me to call at 10 PM when he close his business and comfortble at home ) and then for another 15 days he is mumbai or he is rajastan or he is in agra inside taj mahal .or doing pitru tarpan in haridwar till i leav Banglore ,still i used to call him ,but he switch off or ignore my call s Rgrds Sunil Nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > // do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth of> a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) //> > Smart observation.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > dear guru Naga JI> >> > sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna methods> >> > But what i am asking is the logic of application> >> > i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is max 2> > hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in a sign> > of 2 1/4 days> >> > means all the millions born in this world will hav same planetary> > position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign transit> period> > -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the> > proportion is higher ) .> >> > also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and sani> > like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability theorys )> >> > This is the one i am asking u to explain> >> > sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the logic> > once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can> seperate> > ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo and> > none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even the age> > is same .> >> > also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same> family> > and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits max> >> > do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth of> a> > crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast )> >> > i am asking explanations for such intricacies> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> > , "Guru.nagarajan"> > guru_naga_astrologer@ wrote:> > >> > > dear mr.sunil nair ji,> > > in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to predict a> > chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. combine the> > two chart and give the result for their running matters.> > > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female venus> is> > lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for example> > now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict,> first> > we take the planets from aquarious,gemini,and libra also any planet> > aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the matter> > can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign.> > > the anathor book of R.G.RAO is "KASHYAPA HORA" Based on nadi system.> > > i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version.> > > i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing in> > tamil version.> > > that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one.> > > but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran> > temple astrologers used)> > > with regards> > > guru.naga> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil ji, Well said. Sure even I support the ancient Nadies but not those Nadi centres blooming everywhere in all cities offering various Kandams for various categories of amount slabs. I visited one of them twice on two diferent occasions in a span of two years. The name was 'Vashistha nadi " . At the counter they have a women who takes your thumb impression. They ask you your date of birth, Phone number and note on a slip which goes inside their rooms behind the counter. Next begins the casual questioning by the lady at the counter, who has come with You ? Where you stay ? How is this lady sitting next to you related to You ? Is she your wife. All this would look like innocent questions to a normal client. But not to a well trained person like me (who has spent 30 years doing business in Indias Commercial capital and Electrical markets and knows the ways of the world). After 10-15 minutes you are called inside. Perhaps by that time all the info. which the sweet lady has asked at the counter is already submitted inside. Then the Pundit doing the reading asks you to bow before their Diety, and they bring in Palms and start reading . What a read. They say you must be in business, by looking at my clothes etc. I confirm yes. then he says, Cloth ? Paper ? I say No. Its Metal. Thus they continue giving me many options from which I have to choose, but they cant tell me themselves which must be the right one. This continues for 15 minutes after which I get fed up and tell them politely that I am an astrologer and what you are doing is not Astrology. The person reading the palm leave then goes out of the chamber and comes back with a message from his senior that " We could not find your Palm leaf, so you may please leave. " I do Namaste and leave. I will talk on other more such experiences some other time. Love and regards, Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Dear respected Bhaskar ji > > Sure ,I am not against any of those Nadi methods ,which is givn to us > by rishies .Even i know there is answer for all my questions givn by > them in those nadies or supplementary nadies . > > But waht i am against is this so called writers ,or revealer's to the > world in the name of Nadies ( i mean all those printed materials > available in market ) > > we hav Ravan Samhita,Aruna Samhita ,Brigu Samhita and so many other nadi > books available in print and also sold at v high rates in book stall s. > > but i must say none of them is or has any thing to do with originals > ,some r even simple vedic astrology re cycled ,some has some methods > which is at very basic levels and then all the rest of book is just > jugglery of words . > > i hav so many wonderfull exprnce with many secret Holders of astrology > and nadi astrology . > > even i had one Siva Sookhsma Nadi Method Astrologer in Banglore ,who > also does Hand Reading mainly but advtise as spl technic Siva Sookshma > Nadi Method s Specialist ( since it is Lord Siva and the Nadi Methods r > Sookshma means More Finer.More precise More accurate ) in banglore who > strted running away frm me ,who used to put big advtmnt in Newpapers ..( > it was almost 7 yrs back he charges those days rs 500 per consultancy > may b max he giv u 30 minits ) > > i had only one tele talk and i introduced my self as Resercher in Nadies > and Nadi Litterrature ,And i asked to do a reading and agreed to pay per > Hour what ever he demands ( it is not leaf methods /or palm leaf reading > ) on my chart with his methods ,Then aftr few hrs of tele talk ( i > discussed what r methods i know ,or what methods i had idea of ,but he > said his method Very very diffrnt and spl one and no one has this > secrets ( Which he boasted that i will b shocked by his accuracy in > prediction ) except he and his guru and told me also some name of his > guru ,) he agreed for an apptmnt for very next day and on trying to re > confirm frm him next day he is already in mumbai at 9 o clock AM ( i > talked with him in last nite 10 PM as i first called him and said i will > call him later as i wanted to discuss some thing when ever he is free > ,so he asked me to call at 10 PM when he close his business and > comfortble at home ) and then for another 15 days he is mumbai or he is > rajastan or he is in agra inside taj mahal .or doing pitru tarpan in > haridwar till i leav Banglore ,still i used to call him ,but he switch > off or ignore my call s > > Rgrds Sunil Nair > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > // do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth > of > > a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) // > > > > Smart observation. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear guru Naga JI > > > > > > sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna methods > > > > > > But what i am asking is the logic of application > > > > > > i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is max > 2 > > > hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in a > sign > > > of 2 1/4 days > > > > > > means all the millions born in this world will hav same planetary > > > position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign transit > > period > > > -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the > > > proportion is higher ) . > > > > > > also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and sani > > > like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability theorys ) > > > > > > This is the one i am asking u to explain > > > > > > sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the > logic > > > once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can > > seperate > > > ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo and > > > none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even the > age > > > is same . > > > > > > also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same > > family > > > and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits max > > > > > > do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth > of > > a > > > crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) > > > > > > i am asking explanations for such intricacies > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > , " Guru.nagarajan " > > > guru_naga_astrologer@ wrote: > > > > > > > > dear mr.sunil nair ji, > > > > in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to predict > a > > > chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. combine > the > > > two chart and give the result for their running matters. > > > > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female venus > > is > > > lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for > example > > > now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict, > > first > > > we take the planets from aquarious,gemini,and libra also any planet > > > aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the > matter > > > can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign. > > > > the anathor book of R.G.RAO is " KASHYAPA HORA " Based on nadi > system. > > > > i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version. > > > > i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing > in > > > tamil version. > > > > that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one. > > > > but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran > > > temple astrologers used) > > > > with regards > > > > guru.naga > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Respected Bhaskar ji Most of this Palm leaf readers are either extracting informations frm clients or using some inferior deities/spirits Like Manoj chandran ji said . So when using such tactics it has nothing to do with palm leaf 's called nadi leaves which is written down by some rishies or their Gurukulas or even sisyas ( it was a practise in ancient india many students use their kulapathi Gurus name when ever they write any texts with knowledge paased down tru some main gurukula sage ( for example we know vedanga Jyothisha ,we all says it is written by lagadha rishi as a general practise where as it is written by some other muni ( i forget now his name ) who may b some Nth generation in Line of Lagadha rishi 's ashram parampara ) I know changing leaves what Manoj ji mentions and one of my frnd also told me this tho i never had a chance to see it . I heard such nadies are jeeva nadies ,and ascribe it is gifted to them by some sages and asked them to worship some deities like hanuman or sage agastya like that ( also heard who ever misuse it the sidhies vanish ) i dont think some one uses inferior sidhies can do it unless he is using some majiks to fool others and says this is ur chart in South style ( to customers who dont know even astrology ) ,and may b showing some unreadable Tamil letters .i heard the lauguage appears is readble to all ppl which ever nationality and language they speaks ,if he is a japanese ,the leaf will hav answer in their language means in japanese .Here the reader is only a medium .it is some thing like a question and answer in Ola ( leaf ) .Rgrds Sunil Nair I had a wonderful exprnce when a leaf reader fed up with his questions( in the pretext of checking My leafs ) with me ,asked me what r u doing ( to invoke a diety is also not possible as i am practising my guru initiated mantra's ) ,and when i said i know astrology ,he giv me datas and got a reading frm me ( i alwys carry a laptop and enough datas with me along with a diffrnt set of finger prints of Known person s ) he also advertises has some 3 diffrt nadies he has in his possession . , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil ji,> > Well said. Sure even I support the ancient Nadies but not those Nadi> centres blooming everywhere in all cities offering various Kandams for> various categories of amount slabs. I visited one of them twice on two> diferent occasions in a span of two years. The name was 'Vashistha> nadi". At the counter they have a women who takes your thumb impression.> They ask you your date of birth, Phone number and note on a slip which> goes inside their rooms behind the counter. Next begins the casual> questioning by the lady at the counter, who has come with You ? Where> you stay ? How is this lady sitting next to you related to You ? Is she> your wife. All this would look like innocent questions to a normal> client. But not to a well trained person like me (who has spent 30 years> doing business in Indias Commercial capital and Electrical markets and> knows the ways of the world). After 10-15 minutes you are called inside.> Perhaps by that time all the info. which the sweet lady has asked at the> counter is already submitted inside. Then the Pundit doing the reading> asks you to bow before their Diety, and they bring in Palms and start> reading . What a read. They say you must be in business, by looking at> my clothes etc. I confirm yes. then he says, Cloth ? Paper ? I say No.> Its Metal. Thus they continue giving me many options from which I have> to choose, but they cant tell me themselves which must be the right one.> This continues for 15 minutes after which I get fed up and tell them> politely that I am an astrologer and what you are doing is not> Astrology. The person reading the palm leave then goes out of the> chamber and comes back with a message from his senior that "We could not> find your Palm leaf, so you may please leave." I do Namaste and leave.> > I will talk on other more such experiences some other time.> > Love and regards,> > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I totally agree with the experience of Shri Bhaskerji, this is really a very bad scene from nadi readers ( or say fake nadi readers). Even few fake nadi or bhrigu readers makes false sheets also. Thankyou, Vijay Goel Jaipur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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