Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Many of these nadi places use Astrology just like Tarot reading. I dont know if you have any exposure to Tarots but basically these are Cards that carry as specific meaning and Tarot readers are usually mediums or phychics and by turning the Cards, they predict the future. However the problem is that Time is Maya, an illusion. It does not exist. So from the Astral world it is not possible to " time " events. Here is what happens during a Nadi reading in one of those centers. When they collect your thumb print and particulars, one of the experienced Nadi readers is already trying to invoke the Astral Being through Mantras and trying to coax him/her to reveal your future. Problem is that since there is " time " in the Astral world, the best they can come up with is " what will happen " and not " when it will happen " . So now what the " human reader " (who has honed his mediumistic abilities through years and years of practising this Mantra passed to him by his father/uncle etc) does is, take the " event " , and tries to time it using a basic knowledge of Jyotish, but primarily using Jupiter/Saturn transits to fuctify these events. There are two types of such readers. One type where the Astral entity whispers in to the ears and another type which is a true automatic writing, where the writings appears on the Nadi leaves. I have seen one such " automatic writing " nadi reader who visited Arizona and he clearly demonstrated this to us. The interesting thing was even my birth chart appeared in the south Indian fashion in the Nadi Leaf out of nowhere. However the big questions are 1.Is this astrology? I think the answer is NO. However they are forced to guise it as astrology since most Indian public will not accept Psychic readings and will be spooked by it. 2. Is it accurate? Here is the big question. I think the accuracy depends on several factors including the attunement that the " nadi reader " has with the " entity " . The entity could very well be one of his forefathers, not necessarily an " evil entity " . But the problem is nobody knows who the entity is. In my experience there have been readings where the accuracy is absolutely stunning. No jyotish can match the stunning accuracy of a Nadi reading when it hits the mark But most of these events are pretty negative. In one of my friends readings he was told his father will loose one of his limbs within 3 years and infact 2 years later his father had an accident and DID need to amputate on of his arms !!! That is my experience with Nadi astrology in these centers. I dont really mind them making money using psychic means as long as they say that is what they are doing. If you go on Ebay you will find hundreds of psychic readers. But when they call it astrology that is where it gets sticky. Also there is one gentlemen from Kerala who practices in Chennai (I forget his name) who openly calls himself " Psychic Vedic Astrologer " . His claim is that he communicates with this dead father (who was also an astrologer) to give predictive readings. In this case I applaud him for atleast coming out in the open and saying it. Maybe some day Nadi readers will come out on the open and call it psychic readings and then people can still go to them and not be confused between astrology and nadi reading. However I should also mention that authors like BV Raman and KN Rao have hammered these readers (in some ways rightly so). But in many books there are claims that some how these " entities " attack people who go to these readers. I sincerely doubt that claim.. Thousands and thousands in " Vaitheeswaran Koil " have got readings and if they are being " attacked' we would know by now through the news media. Plus this is their profession. Whey would they endanger that with these " alleged " psychic attacks? Just my 2 cents on this issue .... -Manoj ________________________________ Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:33:06 AM Re:Sign_Planet_Direction Dear Shri Sunil ji, Well said. Sure even I support the ancient Nadies but not those Nadi centres blooming everywhere in all cities offering various Kandams for various categories of amount slabs. I visited one of them twice on two diferent occasions in a span of two years. The name was 'Vashistha nadi " . At the counter they have a women who takes your thumb impression. They ask you your date of birth, Phone number and note on a slip which goes inside their rooms behind the counter. Next begins the casual questioning by the lady at the counter, who has come with You ? Where you stay ? How is this lady sitting next to you related to You ? Is she your wife. All this would look like innocent questions to a normal client. But not to a well trained person like me (who has spent 30 years doing business in Indias Commercial capital and Electrical markets and knows the ways of the world). After 10-15 minutes you are called inside. Perhaps by that time all the info. which the sweet lady has asked at the counter is already submitted inside. Then the Pundit doing the reading asks you to bow before their Diety, and they bring in Palms and start reading . What a read. They say you must be in business, by looking at my clothes etc. I confirm yes. then he says, Cloth ? Paper ? I say No. Its Metal. Thus they continue giving me many options from which I have to choose, but they cant tell me themselves which must be the right one. This continues for 15 minutes after which I get fed up and tell them politely that I am an astrologer and what you are doing is not Astrology. The person reading the palm leave then goes out of the chamber and comes back with a message from his senior that " We could not find your Palm leaf, so you may please leave. " I do Namaste and leave. I will talk on other more such experiences some other time. Love and regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Dear respected Bhaskar ji > > Sure ,I am not against any of those Nadi methods ,which is givn to us > by rishies .Even i know there is answer for all my questions givn by > them in those nadies or supplementary nadies . > > But waht i am against is this so called writers ,or revealer's to the > world in the name of Nadies ( i mean all those printed materials > available in market ) > > we hav Ravan Samhita,Aruna Samhita ,Brigu Samhita and so many other nadi > books available in print and also sold at v high rates in book stall s. > > but i must say none of them is or has any thing to do with originals > ,some r even simple vedic astrology re cycled ,some has some methods > which is at very basic levels and then all the rest of book is just > jugglery of words . > > i hav so many wonderfull exprnce with many secret Holders of astrology > and nadi astrology . > > even i had one Siva Sookhsma Nadi Method Astrologer in Banglore ,who > also does Hand Reading mainly but advtise as spl technic Siva Sookshma > Nadi Method s Specialist ( since it is Lord Siva and the Nadi Methods r > Sookshma means More Finer.More precise More accurate ) in banglore who > strted running away frm me ,who used to put big advtmnt in Newpapers ..( > it was almost 7 yrs back he charges those days rs 500 per consultancy > may b max he giv u 30 minits ) > > i had only one tele talk and i introduced my self as Resercher in Nadies > and Nadi Litterrature ,And i asked to do a reading and agreed to pay per > Hour what ever he demands ( it is not leaf methods /or palm leaf reading > ) on my chart with his methods ,Then aftr few hrs of tele talk ( i > discussed what r methods i know ,or what methods i had idea of ,but he > said his method Very very diffrnt and spl one and no one has this > secrets ( Which he boasted that i will b shocked by his accuracy in > prediction ) except he and his guru and told me also some name of his > guru ,) he agreed for an apptmnt for very next day and on trying to re > confirm frm him next day he is already in mumbai at 9 o clock AM ( i > talked with him in last nite 10 PM as i first called him and said i will > call him later as i wanted to discuss some thing when ever he is free > ,so he asked me to call at 10 PM when he close his business and > comfortble at home ) and then for another 15 days he is mumbai or he is > rajastan or he is in agra inside taj mahal .or doing pitru tarpan in > haridwar till i leav Banglore ,still i used to call him ,but he switch > off or ignore my call s > > Rgrds Sunil Nair > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > // do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth > of > > a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) // > > > > Smart observation. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear guru Naga JI > > > > > > sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna methods > > > > > > But what i am asking is the logic of application > > > > > > i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is max > 2 > > > hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in a > sign > > > of 2 1/4 days > > > > > > means all the millions born in this world will hav same planetary > > > position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign transit > > period > > > -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the > > > proportion is higher ) . > > > > > > also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and sani > > > like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability theorys ) > > > > > > This is the one i am asking u to explain > > > > > > sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the > logic > > > once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can > > seperate > > > ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo and > > > none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even the > age > > > is same . > > > > > > also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same > > family > > > and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits max > > > > > > do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth > of > > a > > > crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) > > > > > > i am asking explanations for such intricacies > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Guru.nagarajan " > > > guru_naga_astrologe r@ wrote: > > > > > > > > dear mr.sunil nair ji, > > > > in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to predict > a > > > chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. combine > the > > > two chart and give the result for their running matters. > > > > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female venus > > is > > > lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for > example > > > now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict, > > first > > > we take the planets from aquarious,gemini, and libra also any planet > > > aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the > matter > > > can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign. > > > > the anathor book of R.G.RAO is " KASHYAPA HORA " Based on nadi > system. > > > > i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version. > > > > i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing > in > > > tamil version. > > > > that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one. > > > > but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran > > > temple astrologers used) > > > > with regards > > > > guru.naga > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, These are all separate ways of prognosis and cannot be mixed as the practitioners are different, except for few like me, who at times make use of separate techniques to confirm some important event. I am mentioning only those which you spoke of in Your mail. 1) Tarot cards reading. 2) Automatic writing. 3) Nadi Astrology through Horoscope reading. 4) Nadi astrology through Palm leaves reading. 5) Karna Pisachini (Astral entity speaking in ears) 6) Psychic readings Tarot cards are just like Prashna Kundlis meant for specific Queries. Automatic writing is done through Dead spirits and dangerous for the uninitiated. Nadi astrology is use of karakas and transits. Nadi through palm leaves is predicting through Thumb Prints. Karna Pisachini is dangerous and successful only for predicting past events. Psychic readings is attuning telepathically with entities of astral levels. Is this astrology? No, except Nadi astrology all else is not astrology. Is it accurate ? It depends on who is doing this. Is it dangerous to the Querent ? No. Do they talk negative most of the time? Yes mostly they give fearful predictions of impending disasters. Is it dangerous to the practitioner? Automatic writing, Karna Pisachini and Psychic readings may prove dangerous at some point of time to the person who practices this. But not always. Real Experience Since you have mentioned about Your experience let me mention mines too. Theres a lady in Calcutta who charges Rs.5000-25000 per consultation locally, and she has visited my place 2-3 times as my mother believes in the powers of the Devi and likes to entertain her when she is visiting Bombay. This lady is a Devi upaasak and whenever she comes to my place she carries her palm leaves and asks us to pick one from those. She then starts reading from the leaf and her predictions are startling. She also shows the images what are mentioned in the leaf and describes about them. She can give the time frame to an event within 15days to 30 days and also tell what would happen. And we have seen whatever she tells happens in most of the cases. Her only problem is that she is into Tamasic type of worships which we do not adhere to, and once she puts the fear in You, and you ask her the remedy, she will talk of Pooja to be done, which may cost a good amount of thousands of rupees. She knows me and of course does not suggest me her remedial measures which could produce horror even in the day time, for a person not acquainted with the rites and rituals she performs. I also visited a relatives place in Chennai who had consulted some Naadi palm leaves and was given a cassette in Tamil language which translated also told them that they would have a robbery of all silver utensils in their house in a particular time frame, and also the death of the lady of the house, and both incidents happened within the year the audio cassette mentioned. Regards, Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > Many of these nadi places use Astrology just like Tarot reading. I dont know if you have any exposure to Tarots but basically these are Cards that carry as specific meaning and Tarot readers are usually mediums or phychics and by turning the Cards, they predict the future. However the problem is that Time is Maya, an illusion. It does not exist. So from the Astral world it is not possible to "time" events.> > Here is what happens during a Nadi reading in one of those centers. When they collect your thumb print and particulars, one of the experienced Nadi readers is already trying to invoke the Astral Being through Mantras and trying to coax him/her to reveal your future. Problem is that since there is "time" in the Astral world, the best they can come up with is "what will happen" and not "when it will happen". So now what the "human reader" (who has honed his mediumistic abilities through years and years of practising this Mantra passed to him by his father/uncle etc) does is, take the "event", and tries to time it using a basic knowledge of Jyotish, but primarily using Jupiter/Saturn transits to fuctify these events.> > There are two types of such readers. One type where the Astral entity whispers in to the ears and another type which is a true automatic writing, where the writings appears on the Nadi leaves. I have seen one such "automatic writing" nadi reader who visited Arizona and he clearly demonstrated this to us. The interesting thing was even my birth chart appeared in the south Indian fashion in the Nadi Leaf out of nowhere.> > However the big questions are> > 1.Is this astrology?> I think the answer is NO. However they are forced to guise it as astrology since most Indian public will not accept Psychic readings and will be spooked by it.> > 2. Is it accurate?> Here is the big question. I think the accuracy depends on several factors including the attunement that the "nadi reader" has with the "entity". The entity could very well be one of his forefathers, not necessarily an "evil entity". But the problem is nobody knows who the entity is.> > In my experience there have been readings where the accuracy is absolutely stunning. No jyotish can match the stunning accuracy of a Nadi reading when it hits the mark But most of these events are pretty negative. In one of my friends readings he was told his father will loose one of his limbs within 3 years and infact 2 years later his father had an accident and DID need to amputate on of his arms !!!> > That is my experience with Nadi astrology in these centers. I dont really mind them making money using psychic means as long as they say that is what they are doing. If you go on Ebay you will find hundreds of psychic readers. But when they call it astrology that is where it gets sticky.> > Also there is one gentlemen from Kerala who practices in Chennai (I forget his name) who openly calls himself "Psychic Vedic Astrologer". His claim is that he communicates with this dead father (who was also an astrologer) to give predictive readings. In this case I applaud him for atleast coming out in the open and saying it.> > Maybe some day Nadi readers will come out on the open and call it psychic readings and then people can still go to them and not be confused between astrology and nadi reading. However I should also mention that authors like BV Raman and KN Rao have hammered these readers (in some ways rightly so). But in many books there are claims that some how these "entities" attack people who go to these readers. I sincerely doubt that claim.. Thousands and thousands in "Vaitheeswaran Koil" have got readings and if they are being "attacked' we would know by now through the news media. Plus this is their profession. Whey would they endanger that with these "alleged" psychic attacks?> > Just my 2 cents on this issue ....> > -Manoj> > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:33:06 AM> Re:Sign_Planet_Direction> > > Dear Shri Sunil ji,> > Well said. Sure even I support the ancient Nadies but not those Nadi> centres blooming everywhere in all cities offering various Kandams for> various categories of amount slabs. I visited one of them twice on two> diferent occasions in a span of two years. The name was 'Vashistha> nadi". At the counter they have a women who takes your thumb impression.> They ask you your date of birth, Phone number and note on a slip which> goes inside their rooms behind the counter. Next begins the casual> questioning by the lady at the counter, who has come with You ? Where> you stay ? How is this lady sitting next to you related to You ? Is she> your wife. All this would look like innocent questions to a normal> client. But not to a well trained person like me (who has spent 30 years> doing business in Indias Commercial capital and Electrical markets and> knows the ways of the world). After 10-15 minutes you are called inside.> Perhaps by that time all the info. which the sweet lady has asked at the> counter is already submitted inside. Then the Pundit doing the reading> asks you to bow before their Diety, and they bring in Palms and start> reading . What a read. They say you must be in business, by looking at> my clothes etc. I confirm yes. then he says, Cloth ? Paper ? I say No.> Its Metal. Thus they continue giving me many options from which I have> to choose, but they cant tell me themselves which must be the right one.> This continues for 15 minutes after which I get fed up and tell them> politely that I am an astrologer and what you are doing is not> Astrology. The person reading the palm leave then goes out of the> chamber and comes back with a message from his senior that "We could not> find your Palm leaf, so you may please leave." I do Namaste and leave.> > I will talk on other more such experiences some other time.> > Love and regards,> > Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair"> <astro_tellerkerala wrote:> >> >> > Dear respected Bhaskar ji> >> > Sure ,I am not against any of those Nadi methods ,which is givn to us> > by rishies .Even i know there is answer for all my questions givn by> > them in those nadies or supplementary nadies .> >> > But waht i am against is this so called writers ,or revealer's to the> > world in the name of Nadies ( i mean all those printed materials> > available in market )> >> > we hav Ravan Samhita,Aruna Samhita ,Brigu Samhita and so many other> nadi> > books available in print and also sold at v high rates in book stall> s.> >> > but i must say none of them is or has any thing to do with originals> > ,some r even simple vedic astrology re cycled ,some has some methods> > which is at very basic levels and then all the rest of book is just> > jugglery of words .> >> > i hav so many wonderfull exprnce with many secret Holders of astrology> > and nadi astrology .> >> > even i had one Siva Sookhsma Nadi Method Astrologer in Banglore ,who> > also does Hand Reading mainly but advtise as spl technic Siva Sookshma> > Nadi Method s Specialist ( since it is Lord Siva and the Nadi Methods> r> > Sookshma means More Finer.More precise More accurate ) in banglore who> > strted running away frm me ,who used to put big advtmnt in Newpapers> .(> > it was almost 7 yrs back he charges those days rs 500 per consultancy> > may b max he giv u 30 minits )> >> > i had only one tele talk and i introduced my self as Resercher in> Nadies> > and Nadi Litterrature ,And i asked to do a reading and agreed to pay> per> > Hour what ever he demands ( it is not leaf methods /or palm leaf> reading> > ) on my chart with his methods ,Then aftr few hrs of tele talk ( i> > discussed what r methods i know ,or what methods i had idea of ,but he> > said his method Very very diffrnt and spl one and no one has this> > secrets ( Which he boasted that i will b shocked by his accuracy in> > prediction ) except he and his guru and told me also some name of his> > guru ,) he agreed for an apptmnt for very next day and on trying to re> > confirm frm him next day he is already in mumbai at 9 o clock AM ( i> > talked with him in last nite 10 PM as i first called him and said i> will> > call him later as i wanted to discuss some thing when ever he is free> > ,so he asked me to call at 10 PM when he close his business and> > comfortble at home ) and then for another 15 days he is mumbai or he> is> > rajastan or he is in agra inside taj mahal .or doing pitru tarpan in> > haridwar till i leav Banglore ,still i used to call him ,but he switch> > off or ignore my call s> >> > Rgrds Sunil Nair> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > // do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of> birth> > of> > > a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) //> > >> > > Smart observation.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > dear guru Naga JI> > > >> > > > sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna methods> > > >> > > > But what i am asking is the logic of application> > > >> > > > i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is> max> > 2> > > > hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in a> > sign> > > > of 2 1/4 days> > > >> > > > means all the millions born in this world will hav same planetary> > > > position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign transit> > > period> > > > -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the> > > > proportion is higher ) .> > > >> > > > also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and> sani> > > > like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability theorys> )> > > >> > > > This is the one i am asking u to explain> > > >> > > > sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the> > logic> > > > once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can> > > seperate> > > > ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo> and> > > > none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even the> > age> > > > is same .> > > >> > > > also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same> > > family> > > > and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits> max> > > >> > > > do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth> > of> > > a> > > > crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast )> > > >> > > > i am asking explanations for such intricacies> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Guru.nagarajan"> > > > guru_naga_astrologe r@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear mr.sunil nair ji,> > > > > in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to> predict> > a> > > > chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. combine> > the> > > > two chart and give the result for their running matters.> > > > > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female> venus> > > is> > > > lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for> > example> > > > now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict,> > > first> > > > we take the planets from aquarious,gemini, and libra also any> planet> > > > aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the> > matter> > > > can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign.> > > > > the anathor book of R.G.RAO is "KASHYAPA HORA" Based on nadi> > system.> > > > > i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version.> > > > > i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing> > in> > > > tamil version.> > > > > that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one.> > > > > but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran> > > > temple astrologers used)> > > > > with regards> > > > > guru.naga> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Wrong people do exist. But right people have something that stands them in market for long time. Same goes for Nadi , I am talking here only about Nadi through palm leaves. If it has existed for so many years, it has something in it. Touts may exist even in this line. My experience with two Nadi readers (not astrologers, as they call themslves reader only) is equally divided , one good and one below average. Good one could predict certain events in my life, preamble of which is almost same. He could even describe my would be wife before my marriage and I can say this Nadi reading so far was good enough for 80-90% of events. Second one was not good enough, not even 25% and I was ever satisfied with this nadi reader right from the first day, the way he chose leaf and then predicted, I suspected him. Nadi is supposed to be a reading whih can takes care of birth that differ by even 1 minute. Personally, I think this is an intersting area to research but if nadi readers open themselves bit more. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > These are all separate ways of prognosis and cannot be mixed as the > practitioners are different, except for few like me, who at times make > use of separate techniques to confirm some important event. I am > mentioning only those which you spoke of in Your mail. > > > > 1) Tarot cards reading. > > 2) Automatic writing. > > 3) Nadi Astrology through Horoscope reading. > > 4) Nadi astrology through Palm leaves reading. > > 5) Karna Pisachini (Astral entity speaking in ears) > > 6) Psychic readings > > > > Tarot cards are just like Prashna Kundlis meant for specific Queries. > > Automatic writing is done through Dead spirits and dangerous for the > uninitiated. > > Nadi astrology is use of karakas and transits. > > Nadi through palm leaves is predicting through Thumb Prints. > > Karna Pisachini is dangerous and successful only for predicting past > events. > > Psychic readings is attuning telepathically with entities of astral > levels. > > > > Is this astrology? > > No, except Nadi astrology all else is not astrology. > > > > Is it accurate ? > > It depends on who is doing this. > > > > Is it dangerous to the Querent ? > > No. > > > > Do they talk negative most of the time? > > Yes mostly they give fearful predictions of impending disasters. > > > > Is it dangerous to the practitioner? > > Automatic writing, Karna Pisachini and Psychic readings may prove > dangerous at some point of time to the person who practices this. But > not always. > > > > Real Experience > > > > Since you have mentioned about Your experience let me mention mines too. > Theres a lady in Calcutta who charges Rs.5000-25000 per consultation > locally, and she has visited my place 2-3 times as my mother believes in > the powers of the Devi and likes to entertain her when she is visiting > Bombay. This lady is a Devi upaasak and whenever she comes to my place > she carries her palm leaves and asks us to pick one from those. She then > starts reading from the leaf and her predictions are startling. She also > shows the images what are mentioned in the leaf and describes about > them. She can give the time frame to an event within 15days to 30 days > and also tell what would happen. And we have seen whatever she tells > happens in most of the cases. Her only problem is that she is into > Tamasic type of worships which we do not adhere to, and once she puts > the fear in You, and you ask her the remedy, she will talk of Pooja to > be done, which may cost a good amount of thousands of rupees. She knows > me and of course does not suggest me her remedial measures which could > produce horror even in the day time, for a person not acquainted with > the rites and rituals she performs. > > > > I also visited a relatives place in Chennai who had consulted some Naadi > palm leaves and was given a cassette in Tamil language which translated > also told them that they would have a robbery of all silver utensils in > their house in a particular time frame, and also the death of the lady > of the house, and both incidents happened within the year the audio > cassette mentioned. > > > > Regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Many of these nadi places use Astrology just like Tarot reading. I > dont know if you have any exposure to Tarots but basically these are > Cards that carry as specific meaning and Tarot readers are usually > mediums or phychics and by turning the Cards, they predict the future. > However the problem is that Time is Maya, an illusion. It does not > exist. So from the Astral world it is not possible to " time " events. > > > > Here is what happens during a Nadi reading in one of those centers. > When they collect your thumb print and particulars, one of the > experienced Nadi readers is already trying to invoke the Astral Being > through Mantras and trying to coax him/her to reveal your future. > Problem is that since there is " time " in the Astral world, the best they > can come up with is " what will happen " and not " when it will happen " . So > now what the " human reader " (who has honed his mediumistic abilities > through years and years of practising this Mantra passed to him by his > father/uncle etc) does is, take the " event " , and tries to time it using > a basic knowledge of Jyotish, but primarily using Jupiter/Saturn > transits to fuctify these events. > > > > There are two types of such readers. One type where the Astral entity > whispers in to the ears and another type which is a true automatic > writing, where the writings appears on the Nadi leaves. I have seen one > such " automatic writing " nadi reader who visited Arizona and he clearly > demonstrated this to us. The interesting thing was even my birth chart > appeared in the south Indian fashion in the Nadi Leaf out of nowhere. > > > > However the big questions are > > > > 1.Is this astrology? > > I think the answer is NO. However they are forced to guise it as > astrology since most Indian public will not accept Psychic readings and > will be spooked by it. > > > > 2. Is it accurate? > > Here is the big question. I think the accuracy depends on several > factors including the attunement that the " nadi reader " has with the > " entity " . The entity could very well be one of his forefathers, not > necessarily an " evil entity " . But the problem is nobody knows who the > entity is. > > > > In my experience there have been readings where the accuracy is > absolutely stunning. No jyotish can match the stunning accuracy of a > Nadi reading when it hits the mark But most of these events are pretty > negative. In one of my friends readings he was told his father will > loose one of his limbs within 3 years and infact 2 years later his > father had an accident and DID need to amputate on of his arms !!! > > > > That is my experience with Nadi astrology in these centers. I dont > really mind them making money using psychic means as long as they say > that is what they are doing. If you go on Ebay you will find hundreds of > psychic readers. But when they call it astrology that is where it gets > sticky. > > > > Also there is one gentlemen from Kerala who practices in Chennai (I > forget his name) who openly calls himself " Psychic Vedic Astrologer " . > His claim is that he communicates with this dead father (who was also an > astrologer) to give predictive readings. In this case I applaud him for > atleast coming out in the open and saying it. > > > > Maybe some day Nadi readers will come out on the open and call it > psychic readings and then people can still go to them and not be > confused between astrology and nadi reading. However I should also > mention that authors like BV Raman and KN Rao have hammered these > readers (in some ways rightly so). But in many books there are claims > that some how these " entities " attack people who go to these readers. I > sincerely doubt that claim.. Thousands and thousands in " Vaitheeswaran > Koil " have got readings and if they are being " attacked' we would know > by now through the news media. Plus this is their profession. Whey would > they endanger that with these " alleged " psychic attacks? > > > > Just my 2 cents on this issue .... > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:33:06 AM > > Re:Sign_Planet_Direction > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil ji, > > > > Well said. Sure even I support the ancient Nadies but not those Nadi > > centres blooming everywhere in all cities offering various Kandams for > > various categories of amount slabs. I visited one of them twice on two > > diferent occasions in a span of two years. The name was 'Vashistha > > nadi " . At the counter they have a women who takes your thumb > impression. > > They ask you your date of birth, Phone number and note on a slip which > > goes inside their rooms behind the counter. Next begins the casual > > questioning by the lady at the counter, who has come with You ? Where > > you stay ? How is this lady sitting next to you related to You ? Is > she > > your wife. All this would look like innocent questions to a normal > > client. But not to a well trained person like me (who has spent 30 > years > > doing business in Indias Commercial capital and Electrical markets and > > knows the ways of the world). After 10-15 minutes you are called > inside. > > Perhaps by that time all the info. which the sweet lady has asked at > the > > counter is already submitted inside. Then the Pundit doing the reading > > asks you to bow before their Diety, and they bring in Palms and start > > reading . What a read. They say you must be in business, by looking at > > my clothes etc. I confirm yes. then he says, Cloth ? Paper ? I say No. > > Its Metal. Thus they continue giving me many options from which I have > > to choose, but they cant tell me themselves which must be the right > one. > > This continues for 15 minutes after which I get fed up and tell them > > politely that I am an astrologer and what you are doing is not > > Astrology. The person reading the palm leave then goes out of the > > chamber and comes back with a message from his senior that " We could > not > > find your Palm leaf, so you may please leave. " I do Namaste and leave. > > > > I will talk on other more such experiences some other time. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear respected Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Sure ,I am not against any of those Nadi methods ,which is givn to > us > > > by rishies .Even i know there is answer for all my questions givn by > > > them in those nadies or supplementary nadies . > > > > > > But waht i am against is this so called writers ,or revealer's to > the > > > world in the name of Nadies ( i mean all those printed materials > > > available in market ) > > > > > > we hav Ravan Samhita,Aruna Samhita ,Brigu Samhita and so many other > > nadi > > > books available in print and also sold at v high rates in book stall > > s. > > > > > > but i must say none of them is or has any thing to do with originals > > > ,some r even simple vedic astrology re cycled ,some has some methods > > > which is at very basic levels and then all the rest of book is just > > > jugglery of words . > > > > > > i hav so many wonderfull exprnce with many secret Holders of > astrology > > > and nadi astrology . > > > > > > even i had one Siva Sookhsma Nadi Method Astrologer in Banglore ,who > > > also does Hand Reading mainly but advtise as spl technic Siva > Sookshma > > > Nadi Method s Specialist ( since it is Lord Siva and the Nadi > Methods > > r > > > Sookshma means More Finer.More precise More accurate ) in banglore > who > > > strted running away frm me ,who used to put big advtmnt in Newpapers > > .( > > > it was almost 7 yrs back he charges those days rs 500 per > consultancy > > > may b max he giv u 30 minits ) > > > > > > i had only one tele talk and i introduced my self as Resercher in > > Nadies > > > and Nadi Litterrature ,And i asked to do a reading and agreed to pay > > per > > > Hour what ever he demands ( it is not leaf methods /or palm leaf > > reading > > > ) on my chart with his methods ,Then aftr few hrs of tele talk ( i > > > discussed what r methods i know ,or what methods i had idea of ,but > he > > > said his method Very very diffrnt and spl one and no one has this > > > secrets ( Which he boasted that i will b shocked by his accuracy in > > > prediction ) except he and his guru and told me also some name of > his > > > guru ,) he agreed for an apptmnt for very next day and on trying to > re > > > confirm frm him next day he is already in mumbai at 9 o clock AM ( i > > > talked with him in last nite 10 PM as i first called him and said i > > will > > > call him later as i wanted to discuss some thing when ever he is > free > > > ,so he asked me to call at 10 PM when he close his business and > > > comfortble at home ) and then for another 15 days he is mumbai or he > > is > > > rajastan or he is in agra inside taj mahal .or doing pitru tarpan in > > > haridwar till i leav Banglore ,still i used to call him ,but he > switch > > > off or ignore my call s > > > > > > Rgrds Sunil Nair > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > // do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of > > birth > > > of > > > > a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) // > > > > > > > > Smart observation. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear guru Naga JI > > > > > > > > > > sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna > methods > > > > > > > > > > But what i am asking is the logic of application > > > > > > > > > > i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is > > max > > > 2 > > > > > hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in > a > > > sign > > > > > of 2 1/4 days > > > > > > > > > > means all the millions born in this world will hav same > planetary > > > > > position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign > transit > > > > period > > > > > -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the > > > > > proportion is higher ) . > > > > > > > > > > also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and > > sani > > > > > like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability > theorys > > ) > > > > > > > > > > This is the one i am asking u to explain > > > > > > > > > > sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the > > > logic > > > > > once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can > > > > seperate > > > > > ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo > > and > > > > > none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even > the > > > age > > > > > is same . > > > > > > > > > > also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same > > > > family > > > > > and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits > > max > > > > > > > > > > do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of > birth > > > of > > > > a > > > > > crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) > > > > > > > > > > i am asking explanations for such intricacies > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " Guru.nagarajan " > > > > > guru_naga_astrologe r@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear mr.sunil nair ji, > > > > > > in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to > > predict > > > a > > > > > chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart. > combine > > > the > > > > > two chart and give the result for their running matters. > > > > > > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female > > venus > > > > is > > > > > lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for > > > example > > > > > now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to > predict, > > > > first > > > > > we take the planets from aquarious,gemini, and libra also any > > planet > > > > > aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the > > > matter > > > > > can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign. > > > > > > the anathor book of R.G.RAO is " KASHYAPA HORA " Based on nadi > > > system. > > > > > > i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version. > > > > > > i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every > thing > > > in > > > > > tamil version. > > > > > > that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional > one. > > > > > > but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the > vaitheeswaran > > > > > temple astrologers used) > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > guru.naga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji and Sunil Ji, Thank you for sharing both of your thoughts on the subject. Now that Sunil Ji mentioned it I remembered the name " jeeva nadi " . This person had " Kagabujandar Jeeva Nadi " . This is a very pious person and he is actually quite afraid of " Kagabujandar " . He does not ask for money but only takes donation. When I walked in to the room he asked me why I wanted to see him. I told him about my son and his health problems. He told me the following : " If I consult the nadi, I will have to tell you EXACTLY what the Nadi says, EVEN if it is very bad news. If I dont tell you the truth, Kagabujandar will punish me severely. Do you still want to go ahead " . At this point I got spooked and decided NOT to ask about my son and instead asked about my job and career and he went on to make some predictions which subsequently came true (about one lay off and a subsequent job offer and promotion). This is when I saw my Kundali in his palm leaf. So that is one more negative about this prediction that even when it is accurate, even when the person predicting is a good hearted pious person, they may not be able to tell the truth in an uplifting way that a good jyotishi would do. After all as Jyotishis, shouldn't we always attempt to show a light at the end of the tunnel? Much Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:26:38 PM Re:Nadi Astrology Psychics? Dear Manoj ji, These are all separate ways of prognosis and cannot be mixed as the practitioners are different, except for few like me, who at times make use of separate techniques to confirm some important event. I am mentioning only those which you spoke of in Your mail. 1) Tarot cards reading. 2) Automatic writing. 3) Nadi Astrology through Horoscope reading. 4) Nadi astrology through Palm leaves reading. 5) Karna Pisachini (Astral entity speaking in ears) 6) Psychic readings Tarot cards are just like Prashna Kundlis meant for specific Queries. Automatic writing is done through Dead spirits and dangerous for the uninitiated. Nadi astrology is use of karakas and transits. Nadi through palm leaves is predicting through Thumb Prints. Karna Pisachini is dangerous and successful only for predicting past events. Psychic readings is attuning telepathically with entities of astral levels. Is this astrology? No, except Nadi astrology all else is not astrology. Is it accurate ? It depends on who is doing this. Is it dangerous to the Querent ? No. Do they talk negative most of the time? Yes mostly they give fearful predictions of impending disasters. Is it dangerous to the practitioner? Automatic writing, Karna Pisachini and Psychic readings may prove dangerous at some point of time to the person who practices this. But not always. Real Experience Since you have mentioned about Your experience let me mention mines too. Theres a lady in Calcutta who charges Rs.5000-25000 per consultation locally, and she has visited my place 2-3 times as my mother believes in the powers of the Devi and likes to entertain her when she is visiting Bombay. This lady is a Devi upaasak and whenever she comes to my place she carries her palm leaves and asks us to pick one from those. She then starts reading from the leaf and her predictions are startling. She also shows the images what are mentioned in the leaf and describes about them. She can give the time frame to an event within 15days to 30 days and also tell what would happen. And we have seen whatever she tells happens in most of the cases. Her only problem is that she is into Tamasic type of worships which we do not adhere to, and once she puts the fear in You, and you ask her the remedy, she will talk of Pooja to be done, which may cost a good amount of thousands of rupees. She knows me and of course does not suggest me her remedial measures which could produce horror even in the day time, for a person not acquainted with the rites and rituals she performs. I also visited a relatives place in Chennai who had consulted some Naadi palm leaves and was given a cassette in Tamil language which translated also told them that they would have a robbery of all silver utensils in their house in a particular time frame, and also the death of the lady of the house, and both incidents happened within the year the audio cassette mentioned. Regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > Many of these nadi places use Astrology just like Tarot reading. I dont know if you have any exposure to Tarots but basically these are Cards that carry as specific meaning and Tarot readers are usually mediums or phychics and by turning the Cards, they predict the future. However the problem is that Time is Maya, an illusion. It does not exist. So from the Astral world it is not possible to " time " events.. > > Here is what happens during a Nadi reading in one of those centers. When they collect your thumb print and particulars, one of the experienced Nadi readers is already trying to invoke the Astral Being through Mantras and trying to coax him/her to reveal your future. Problem is that since there is " time " in the Astral world, the best they can come up with is " what will happen " and not " when it will happen " . So now what the " human reader " (who has honed his mediumistic abilities through years and years of practising this Mantra passed to him by his father/uncle etc) does is, take the " event " , and tries to time it using a basic knowledge of Jyotish, but primarily using Jupiter/Saturn transits to fuctify these events. > > There are two types of such readers. One type where the Astral entity whispers in to the ears and another type which is a true automatic writing, where the writings appears on the Nadi leaves. I have seen one such " automatic writing " nadi reader who visited Arizona and he clearly demonstrated this to us.. The interesting thing was even my birth chart appeared in the south Indian fashion in the Nadi Leaf out of nowhere. > > However the big questions are > > 1.Is this astrology? > I think the answer is NO. However they are forced to guise it as astrology since most Indian public will not accept Psychic readings and will be spooked by it. > > 2. Is it accurate? > Here is the big question. I think the accuracy depends on several factors including the attunement that the " nadi reader " has with the " entity " . The entity could very well be one of his forefathers, not necessarily an " evil entity " . But the problem is nobody knows who the entity is. > > In my experience there have been readings where the accuracy is absolutely stunning. No jyotish can match the stunning accuracy of a Nadi reading when it hits the mark But most of these events are pretty negative. In one of my friends readings he was told his father will loose one of his limbs within 3 years and infact 2 years later his father had an accident and DID need to amputate on of his arms !!! > > That is my experience with Nadi astrology in these centers. I dont really mind them making money using psychic means as long as they say that is what they are doing. If you go on Ebay you will find hundreds of psychic readers. But when they call it astrology that is where it gets sticky. > > Also there is one gentlemen from Kerala who practices in Chennai (I forget his name) who openly calls himself " Psychic Vedic Astrologer " . His claim is that he communicates with this dead father (who was also an astrologer) to give predictive readings. In this case I applaud him for atleast coming out in the open and saying it. > > Maybe some day Nadi readers will come out on the open and call it psychic readings and then people can still go to them and not be confused between astrology and nadi reading. However I should also mention that authors like BV Raman and KN Rao have hammered these readers (in some ways rightly so). But in many books there are claims that some how these " entities " attack people who go to these readers. I sincerely doubt that claim.. Thousands and thousands in " Vaitheeswaran Koil " have got readings and if they are being " attacked' we would know by now through the news media. Plus this is their profession. Whey would they endanger that with these " alleged " psychic attacks? > > Just my 2 cents on this issue .... > > -Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:33:06 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Sign_Planet_ Direction > > > Dear Shri Sunil ji, > > Well said. Sure even I support the ancient Nadies but not those Nadi > centres blooming everywhere in all cities offering various Kandams for > various categories of amount slabs. I visited one of them twice on two > diferent occasions in a span of two years. The name was 'Vashistha > nadi " . At the counter they have a women who takes your thumb impression. > They ask you your date of birth, Phone number and note on a slip which > goes inside their rooms behind the counter. Next begins the casual > questioning by the lady at the counter, who has come with You ? Where > you stay ? How is this lady sitting next to you related to You ? Is she > your wife. All this would look like innocent questions to a normal > client. But not to a well trained person like me (who has spent 30 years > doing business in Indias Commercial capital and Electrical markets and > knows the ways of the world). After 10-15 minutes you are called inside. > Perhaps by that time all the info. which the sweet lady has asked at the > counter is already submitted inside. Then the Pundit doing the reading > asks you to bow before their Diety, and they bring in Palms and start > reading . What a read. They say you must be in business, by looking at > my clothes etc. I confirm yes. then he says, Cloth ? Paper ? I say No. > Its Metal. Thus they continue giving me many options from which I have > to choose, but they cant tell me themselves which must be the right one. > This continues for 15 minutes after which I get fed up and tell them > politely that I am an astrologer and what you are doing is not > Astrology. The person reading the palm leave then goes out of the > chamber and comes back with a message from his senior that " We could not > find your Palm leaf, so you may please leave. " I do Namaste and leave. > > I will talk on other more such experiences some other time. > > Love and regards, > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > Dear respected Bhaskar ji > > > > Sure ,I am not against any of those Nadi methods ,which is givn to us > > by rishies .Even i know there is answer for all my questions givn by > > them in those nadies or supplementary nadies . > > > > But waht i am against is this so called writers ,or revealer's to the > > world in the name of Nadies ( i mean all those printed materials > > available in market ) > > > > we hav Ravan Samhita,Aruna Samhita ,Brigu Samhita and so many other > nadi > > books available in print and also sold at v high rates in book stall > s. > > > > but i must say none of them is or has any thing to do with originals > > ,some r even simple vedic astrology re cycled ,some has some methods > > which is at very basic levels and then all the rest of book is just > > jugglery of words . > > > > i hav so many wonderfull exprnce with many secret Holders of astrology > > and nadi astrology . > > > > even i had one Siva Sookhsma Nadi Method Astrologer in Banglore ,who > > also does Hand Reading mainly but advtise as spl technic Siva Sookshma > > Nadi Method s Specialist ( since it is Lord Siva and the Nadi Methods > r > > Sookshma means More Finer.More precise More accurate ) in banglore who > > strted running away frm me ,who used to put big advtmnt in Newpapers > .( > > it was almost 7 yrs back he charges those days rs 500 per consultancy > > may b max he giv u 30 minits ) > > > > i had only one tele talk and i introduced my self as Resercher in > Nadies > > and Nadi Litterrature ,And i asked to do a reading and agreed to pay > per > > Hour what ever he demands ( it is not leaf methods /or palm leaf > reading > > ) on my chart with his methods ,Then aftr few hrs of tele talk ( i > > discussed what r methods i know ,or what methods i had idea of ,but he > > said his method Very very diffrnt and spl one and no one has this > > secrets ( Which he boasted that i will b shocked by his accuracy in > > prediction ) except he and his guru and told me also some name of his > > guru ,) he agreed for an apptmnt for very next day and on trying to re > > confirm frm him next day he is already in mumbai at 9 o clock AM ( i > > talked with him in last nite 10 PM as i first called him and said i > will > > call him later as i wanted to discuss some thing when ever he is free > > ,so he asked me to call at 10 PM when he close his business and > > comfortble at home ) and then for another 15 days he is mumbai or he > is > > rajastan or he is in agra inside taj mahal .or doing pitru tarpan in > > haridwar till i leav Banglore ,still i used to call him ,but he switch > > off or ignore my call s > > > > Rgrds Sunil Nair > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > // do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of > birth > > of > > > a crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) // > > > > > > Smart observation. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear guru Naga JI > > > > > > > > sure ,I am aware of Nadi technics ,kasyapa Hora is prashna methods > > > > > > > > But what i am asking is the logic of application > > > > > > > > i mean may b if u consider not lagna frame in a chart ( which is > max > > 2 > > > > hrs window time period esp in south india ) ,the moon will b in a > > sign > > > > of 2 1/4 days > > > > > > > > means all the millions born in this world will hav same planetary > > > > position for that many days ( i mean within one moon sign transit > > > period > > > > -forget abt males or females -sure it is counted here still the > > > > proportion is higher ) . > > > > > > > > also other planets will b in a rasi for min 25 days atleast and > sani > > > > like planet will b 2.5 yrs too .( pls use all probability theorys > ) > > > > > > > > This is the one i am asking u to explain > > > > > > > > sure when some one approaches a astrologer may b we can find the > > logic > > > > once we know the problem s,but what abt millions ( sure we can > > > seperate > > > > ladies and gents ) Living happily out side world with same combo > and > > > > none has similar problems to those who has similar chart ,even the > > age > > > > is same . > > > > > > > > also what is ur logic for twins .triplets or more births in same > > > family > > > > and same mother whose time intervals may b 2 minits to 24 minits > max > > > > > > > > do u think there is no Birth in a kingdom during the time of birth > > of > > > a > > > > crown prince ( i mean within that HR atleast ) > > > > > > > > i am asking explanations for such intricacies > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Guru.nagarajan " > > > > guru_naga_astrologe r@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear mr.sunil nair ji, > > > > > in brugu nandhi nadi mr.R.G.Rao give lot of techniques to > predict > > a > > > > chart. he taking only the natal chart with transit chart.. combine > > the > > > > two chart and give the result for their running matters. > > > > > for male chart the jupitor is consider the lagna. for female > venus > > > is > > > > lagna.. ie., the planet where is situated at their chart. for > > example > > > > now the jupitor is in aquarious if any chart consider to predict, > > > first > > > > we take the planets from aquarious,gemini, and libra also any > planet > > > > aspects aquarious. now combine the planet karagas thats is the > > matter > > > > can run their life upto the jupitor micrate from that sign. > > > > > the anathor book of R.G.RAO is " KASHYAPA HORA " Based on nadi > > system. > > > > > i had some book of r.g.rao which translated in tamil version. > > > > > i had also saptarishi nadi, sugar nadi, chandra nadi every thing > > in > > > > tamil version. > > > > > that nadi systems are as same as or as equal as traditional one. > > > > > but agathiar nadi is different from that.(ie., the vaitheeswaran > > > > temple astrologers used) > > > > > with regards > > > > > guru.naga > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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