Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 The constitution of India was prepared from 1945 and completed in 1949 and finally adopted on the26th of January 1950. Lagna rising is Pisces with Rähu in it indicating that the constitution is basicallycomposed of ideas borrowed from various foreign (Rähu) sources and is principally composed in aforeign language (Rähu). The lagna lord Jupiter and dispositor of Rähu in debility indicates a maleficJupiter that causes unbridled expansion. No doubt that the constitution is the lengthiest and written andcannot be easily understood (weak Jupiter) or even read by the average Indian. The tenth lord in debilityconjoins the Sun showing that the head of the state (President) is a rubber stamp and is ultimatelycompelled to approve whatever is recommended by the Council of Ministers. This compulsion isenforced by the ninth lord Mars (PM) in a sign of Mercury (Council) and aspecting Mercury which is inthe tenth house in Sagittarius (ruled by Jupiter). However, the President does get some powers as JupiterÇré Jagannath Center ◊ http://.org© Sanjay Rath, August 2005. This material is meant for private circulation and cannot be reproduced in any publication without the explicit priorpermission of the copyright holder. This paper can be quoted and referenced. All rights reserved.7gets nécabhaëga räjayoga due to the presence of Mars (planet exalted in the sign of its debility) in aquadrant from lagna.The exchange between the 6th and 11th lords Sun and Saturn is considered dainya3 parivartana4 yogaand brings losses due to enemies of the Republic. In fact the placement of these planets is, individuallyvery good as Saturn in the 6th house is said to have aà åta5 dåñöi where its special aspects are on thedusthäna – Saturn aspects the 8th, 12th and 3rd houses when placed in 6th house and damages the dusthänahouses thereby promoting the chart. Similarly, the Sun in the 11th house in exalted navämça promisesgains and realization of hopes. Thus this is a double edge sword and will swing either way depending onother planets.here is the extract from an article of shri rathji regarding shani's placement in 6th house Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.* Click here!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Dear Neelamji, Look at Krishna's life this way. His uncle was out to kill him even before he was born ,He was separated from his parents at birth, a number of rakshsas were sent to kill him duringhis child hood, he was grazing cows, he was maligned by a lot of people, a lot of accusations were hurled at him, he had the misfortune of seeing his whole clan perish before his eyes, he was to live as a child with the knowledge of his parents suffering at the hands of kamsa, that his grand father had also been imprisoned by kamsa- I am talking only the agonies he went through- In comparison, ramachandra was brought up in the palace and was the eye of the apple of his mothers and every thing was hunky - dory up to his pattabhisheka. He might have gone to the forest for 14 years but he was troubled only at the fag end of his vanavas when ravan kidnapped sita, If he had to give up sita it was his choice to do so. But in krishna's case, it was not by his choice. Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 6/6/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: shani 6th house,good or bad? Date: Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 3:54 PM If that is so Manoj ji, Lord Krishna also had 5 exalted planets but his life didn't have the kind of hardships that Rama's life had.Just a thought! 2009/6/6 Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Dear Neelam Ji, Bhaskar Ji, You are so correct. How can we who are under the influence of Maya of space and time judge the chart of the Lord who is beyond such dualities? But I did learn an interesting astrological lesson from Lord Rama's chart. If I remember correctly I think all of his planets were exalted. But we all know he had a pretty tough life (atleast on the material terms). So that is a lesson that "exalted" does not always been "pleasant". Regards, -Manoj Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, June 6, 2009 8:24:40 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: shani 6th house,good or bad? Dear Neelam ji,// But I am sorry, I have never tried to analyse Shri Krishna's orShri Rama's horoscopes. Who they were and what they did is beyondour comprehension and does not fall under the astrology that we areplaying with. //Neither have I ever tried to analyse, study or put these to anyinspection or any kind of srcutiny, observations or dissection, for thesame reasons you give.regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ....> wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,>> What we discussed was the general behaviour of a neecha Saturn in 6H.> Saturn's results can be affected by its sign, conjunctions andaspects on> it. Saturn becomes the dispositor and venus and moon get coloured bySaturn..> If planets exist in 3H, results of 3H and not of Saturn, would bemoderated> by the planets posited in this house. Venus and moon will come underthe> influence of this Saturn who also aspects them. Moon is 9L and venusis> 7/12L, and depending on the dashas in operation we can judge theirresults.> In makar these planets will get the star lordship of sun, moon andmars> which will also bring their own area of influence. A careful synthesishas> to be done. A typical condition would be, if dasha permits (may not betrue> in this case), the native will be interested in marrying a> neighbour/relative and Saturn will create obstacles and make things> difficult, even scandalous if 8L/mars/ketu get involved, and successwould> depend on the strength of moon.>> Lord Krishna's horoscope by Surdas is said to have 5 exaltedplanets, with> Saturn and Venus in libra in 6H. But I am sorry, I have never tried to> analyse Shri Krishna's or Shri Rama's horoscopes. Who theywere and what> they did is beyond our comprehension and does not fall under theastrology> that we are playing with.>> Other learned members may share their views on this.>> Regards> Neelam> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Dear Neelamji, Thank you for very good explanation. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Sat, 6/6/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: shani 6th house,good or bad? Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 8:12 AM Dear Sunil ji,What we discussed was the general behaviour of a neecha Saturn in 6H. Saturn’s results can be affected by its sign, conjunctions and aspects on it. Saturn becomes the dispositor and venus and moon get coloured by Saturn. If planets exist in 3H, results of 3H and not of Saturn, would be moderated by the planets posited in this house. Venus and moon will come under the influence of this Saturn who also aspects them. Moon is 9L and venus is 7/12L, and depending on the dashas in operation we can judge their results. In makar these planets will get the star lordship of sun, moon and mars which will also bring their own area of influence. A careful synthesis has to be done. A typical condition would be, if dasha permits (may not be true in this case), the native will be interested in marrying a neighbour/relative and Saturn will create obstacles and make things difficult, even scandalous if 8L/mars/ketu get involved, and success would depend on the strength of moon.Lord Krishna’s horoscope by Surdas is said to have 5 exalted planets, with Saturn and Venus in libra in 6H. But I am sorry, I have never tried to analyse Shri Krishna’s or Shri Rama’s horoscopes. Who they were and what they did is beyond our comprehension and does not fall under the astrology that we are playing with.Other learned members may share their views on this.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Dear Anita ji and all, Both Rama and Krishna were two sides of the same coin and supplementing each other. Rama had a younger brother who was Krodhi and Krishna had a elder one as same. Rama had a birth in the palace while Krishna in the prison. Rama had to stay content with Sita while Krishna had many to give him company. Rama had to take permission to enter the Panchavati as per his character and nature of Maryada Purshottam while Krishna did not need any. Rama left for his abode - the Heavens in his own form, while Krishna left his human form like an ordinary human being with an arrow in his foot. But they had many matters alike too, in their lives. They both went for attack only after sending emissaries for peace giving the opposition party enough space to take refuge and seek pardon. Both these avatars were loved by their mothers. Both had super human powers, just one displayed it, and the other did not. Both were Kings. Rama blessed Ahalya while Krishna blessed Kubja. Rama ate with Nishadraaj while Krishna ate at Viduras house. There are thousands of such instances in their lives which complement and supplement each other. We ordinary mortals cannot say that one avatar was better while the other was not so much. regards/Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Dear Neelamji, > Look at Krishna's life this way. His uncle was out to kill him even before he was born ,He was separated from his parents at birth, a number of rakshsas were sent to kill him duringhis child hood, he was grazing cows, he was maligned by a lot of people, a lot of accusations were hurled at him, he had the misfortune of seeing his whole clan perish before his eyes, he was to live as a child with the knowledge of his parents suffering at the hands of kamsa, that his grand father had also been imprisoned by kamsa- I am talking only the agonies he went through- In comparison, ramachandra was brought up in the palace and was the eye of the apple of his mothers and every thing was hunky - dory up to his pattabhisheka. He might have gone to the forest for 14 years but he was troubled only at the fag end of his vanavas when ravan kidnapped sita, If he had to give up sita it was his choice to do so. But in krishna's case, it was not by his choice. > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote: > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > Re: Re: shani 6th house,good or bad? > > Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 3:54 PM > > If that is so Manoj ji, Lord Krishna also had 5 exalted planets but his life didn't have the kind of hardships that Rama's life had. > Just a thought! > > > > 2009/6/6 Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > > > > Dear Neelam Ji, Bhaskar Ji, > > You are so correct. How can we who are under the influence of Maya of space and time judge the chart of the Lord who is beyond such dualities? But I did learn an interesting astrological lesson from Lord Rama's chart. If I remember correctly I think all of his planets were exalted. But we all know he had a pretty tough life (atleast on the material terms). So that is a lesson that " exalted " does not always been " pleasant " . > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Saturday, June 6, 2009 8:24:40 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: shani 6th house,good or bad? > Dear Neelam ji, > > // But I am sorry, I have never tried to analyse Shri Krishna's or > Shri Rama's horoscopes. Who they were and what they did is beyond > our comprehension and does not fall under the astrology that we are > playing with. // > > Neither have I ever tried to analyse, study or put these to any > inspection or any kind of srcutiny, observations or dissection, for the > same reasons you give. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > What we discussed was the general behaviour of a neecha Saturn in 6H. > > Saturn's results can be affected by its sign, conjunctions and > aspects on > > it. Saturn becomes the dispositor and venus and moon get coloured by > Saturn. > > If planets exist in 3H, results of 3H and not of Saturn, would be > moderated > > by the planets posited in this house. Venus and moon will come under > the > > influence of this Saturn who also aspects them. Moon is 9L and venus > is > > 7/12L, and depending on the dashas in operation we can judge their > results. > > In makar these planets will get the star lordship of sun, moon and > mars > > which will also bring their own area of influence. A careful synthesis > has > > to be done. A typical condition would be, if dasha permits (may not be > true > > in this case), the native will be interested in marrying a > > neighbour/relative and Saturn will create obstacles and make things > > difficult, even scandalous if 8L/mars/ketu get involved, and success > would > > depend on the strength of moon. > > > > Lord Krishna's horoscope by Surdas is said to have 5 exalted > planets, with > > Saturn and Venus in libra in 6H. But I am sorry, I have never tried to > > analyse Shri Krishna's or Shri Rama's horoscopes. Who they > were and what > > they did is beyond our comprehension and does not fall under the > astrology > > that we are playing with. > > > > Other learned members may share their views on this. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, You have given a very nice view of krishna and sri ram. There are so many ways you can look at them, it amazes me. Regards, Anita --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: shani 6th house,good or bad? Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 10:5 Dear Anita ji and all, Both Rama and Krishna were two sides of the same coin and supplementing each other. Rama had a younger brother who was Krodhi and Krishna had a elder one as same. Rama had a birth in the palace while Krishna in the prison. Rama had to stay content with Sita while Krishna had many to give him company. Rama had to take permission to enter the Panchavati as per his character and nature of Maryada Purshottam while Krishna did not need any. Rama left for his abode - the Heavens in his own form, while Krishna left his human form like an ordinary human being with an arrow in his foot. But they had many matters alike too, in their lives. They both went for attack only after sending emissaries for peace giving the opposition party enough space to take refuge and seek pardon. Both these avatars were loved by their mothers. Both had super human powers, just one displayed it, and the other did not. Both were Kings. Rama blessed Ahalya while Krishna blessed Kubja. Rama ate with Nishadraaj while Krishna ate at Viduras house. There are thousands of such instances in their lives which complement and supplement each other. We ordinary mortals cannot say that one avatar was better while the other was not so much. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Neelamji, > Look at Krishna's life this way. His uncle was out to kill him even before he was born ,He was separated from his parents at birth, a number of rakshsas were sent to kill him duringhis child hood, he was grazing cows, he was maligned by a lot of people, a lot of accusations were hurled at him, he had the misfortune of seeing his whole clan perish before his eyes, he was to live as a child with the knowledge of his parents suffering at the hands of kamsa, that his grand father had also been imprisoned by kamsa- I am talking only the agonies he went through- In comparison, ramachandra was brought up in the palace and was the eye of the apple of his mothers and every thing was hunky - dory up to his pattabhisheka. He might have gone to the forest for 14 years but he was troubled only at the fag end of his vanavas when ravan kidnapped sita, If he had to give up sita it was his choice to do so. But in krishna's case, it was not by his choice. > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... wrote: > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: shani 6th house,good or bad? > ancient_indian_ astrology > Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 3:54 PM > > If that is so Manoj ji, Lord Krishna also had 5 exalted planets but his life didn't have the kind of hardships that Rama's life had. > Just a thought! > > 2009/6/6 Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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