References of Rashis in the Vedaas and the Vedanga Jyotisha?

June 11, 2009

hinducivilization , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved

wrote:

Dear Raviji,

Namaskar!

< Avatarji, are you claiming that all astrologers both " vedic " and (?) non vedic

were not Brahmins???>

My maternal grandfather was a predictive astrologer, and he made predictions

from janmpatris prepared from Grahalaghava/Makaranda based panchangas. Thus

those panchangs/horoscopes were anything but correct! In spite of the same,

most of his predictions proved correct.

He had cleared Shastri examination in Jyotisha from BHU in 19th century, and for

him also the Surya Sidhanta was a divine work!

He was a Saraswat Brahmin! But he never claimed that making predictions was

" Vedic astrology " nor did he ever claim that there were Mesha etc. Rashis in the

Vedas.

The term " Vedic astrology " has come into vogue over the last about fifty years

or so only because overseas Vamadevas could market their wares in overseas

coutnries in a more profitable manner if the term " Vedic " was attached to

astrology! Earlier it was known as " Hindu astrology " or sidereal astrology.

KNR has admitted his mistake in calling predictive gimmicks as Vedic astrology!

I also learn that even the overseas Vamadeva has repudiated " Vedic astrology "

and pput the blame for predictive gimmicks being called " Vedic astrology " on his

mentor of the twentieth century!

As such, " Vedic astrology " was/is actually " money spinning " astrology!

We are living in a democracy, and if " Vedic astrologers " are able to make a fool

of a common man and the common man is willing to become a fool, by dint of

non-existent Mesha, Vrisha etc. rashis of an imaginary belt known as zodiac, I

have no intention to come between the " master " and his " subjects " !

There is, however, a direct conflict between streamlining the Vedic calendar and

" Vedic astrology " . The latter cannot survive without Mesha, Vrisha etc. Rashis

and that also the so called Nirayana rashis and the former i.e. the Vedic

calendar spins on its head if we superimpose Mesha etc. Rashis on the same!

Unfortunately, it is only these very " Vedic astrologers " who decide the gamut of

our calendars by presiding over " panchanga standardization committees " . And

they are always back to square one by proposing " Lahiri Ayanamsha " in one or the

other garb!

We have, therefore, to choose either of the two i.e. either Mesha, Vrisha etc.

Rashis --including the so called Sayana rashis---or the Madhu, Madhava based

calendar. A thorough investigation regarding the Junction Stars vis-a-vis the

nakshatra divisions also has to be done since we cannot make the present

junction stars fit into nakshatra division, however hard we may try!

" Vedic astrologers " cannot loosen their clutches on the non-existent Rashis,

since if there is no so called Makar Sankranti on January 14/15, but on December

21 (even if we take Uttarayana a sort of Makar Sankranti as per the Puranas!),

nobody will believe their predictions, and that is why they are linking the

Vedic calendar and the " Vdic panchanga " in an inseparable manner.

That is the crux of the matter. It is only a " paapi pet ka saval " for them.

With regards,

Avtar

hinducivilization , " Ravi " <ravi7640@> wrote:

>

> " The most glaring case is the deleterious consequences of every " Vedic

astrologer " having the cunning to interpret (actually misinterpret!) the mantras

anyway he/she wants to just to prove that the real Vamadevas were

> astro-buffs who would make predictions by dint of inanimate objects like "

>

> Avatarji, are you claiming that all astrologers both " vedic " and (?) non vedic

were not Brahmins???