Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having ashta graha yoga

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dear ash ji ,anup ji and prabha ji Thanks for further discussions and calrifications on the chart I know which part of mail prabha ji was using diffrnt aspects other than KAS principle dear prabha ji how u see southern and northern declination in a chart ?can u explain bit more is it traditional way or did u take sun and decide it or do u hav some rasies say like 1 to 6 rasies is this declination and 6 to 12 is other declination ie like we use in traditional astrology as viscible and inviscible houses or do u hav some diffrnt version ,like in tradition they say frm makaradi rasies it is northern declination and karkadi rasies it is southern declination

can u pls clarify ? for benefit for all memebrs rgrds sunil nair --- On Fri, 19/6/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote:prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having ashta graha yoga Date: Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:01 AM

 

Respected Ashji

Guruji please correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

In another post I will give my reasoning of why all planets are combust in this chart. But why did you say that you think Ma is not combust.

Guruji please correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

Regarding my earlier post I want to make only one correction that in that I had not mentioned Su and Mo to have negative declination. And the corrected version is that

The declination of all planets on that day were:

Su: -16.12; Mo: -15.87; Ma: - 20.6; Me: - 12.40; Ju: - 15.9; Ve: - 16.74; Sa: - 19.66

The declination of the planets are all negative meaning that they are all in the southern Hemisphere ie in Dakshinayana. When they are in Northern Hemisphere or Uttarayana then they are represented by positive sign. Its just to show in which hemisphere the planets lie that the positive/negative sign are shown.

Since Sun is huge and all planets are behind Sun, none of the planets are visible from the earth or in other words none of the planets' rays reach the earth. That is the reason that they cant show their effect and are powerless. Mercury being retrograde is in front of Sun and nearer to the earth so its rays are falling on earth and therefore give its affect. Similarly Moon being close to earth doesnt lose its power.

That is the reason I said that:

SUN, MOON, MERCURY ARE THE ONLY PLANETS THAT CAN GIVE ANY GOOD/BAD RESULTS.

Thanks

Prabha

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha ji, Sunil Ji, Anup ji and list,

>

> CAUTION - THIS PORTION IS NOT TAUGHT BY GURU JI THIS PORTION IS OF VA AS WE

> STUDY IN KAS AND NOT TO DO WITH TIMING OF EVENTS PORTION. THIS CHART IS A

> SPECIAL CHART AND I THANK SUNIL JI FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

>

> Just a slight correction Prabha ji.

>

> In this chart, Karakansha of 11th house is Sun and Sun is in Root Karak

> sthan. Yes, the Karak Me is in 8th house from own house thereby loosing

> status. Next the Karakansha of Root Karak is Mangal and Mangal is in Root

> Karak sthan.

>

> Both these planets i.e. Mars and Mercury are not Ast or Combust. Me being

> retro is in front of Sun and Mars is not combust as well. So this person

> will get satisfaction for 11th house.

>

> Then just as Anup ji has said, that Mars is unccha and Shani is in own house

> and Guru is neecha. So 2 uncha / own sign planet and 1 is neecha so this

> person will maintain the property that is created by the family / father.

> He will have satisfaction for 11th house.

>

> He is 47 years old, still 20 more years and the question asked is for

> "PRESENT FINANCIAL STATUS". So that should be ok as of now, is my opinion.

> In 20 years, things might be different due to reasons given by Anup ji in

> his mail.

>

> These are some further thoughts.

>

> I have highlighted 2 more planets Ma and Sa are added to your list planets

> that are in front of Sun.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Prabha

> Acharya

> Thursday June 18, 2009 5:24 AM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having

> ashta graha yoga

>

>

>

>

>

> Respected Guruji, Sunil Nair ji,

> DOB: 5-Feb-1962; TOB: 6.5 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

> Ashji and Anupji has very nicely explained the many aspects of the chart.

> This is my first attempt on a chart discussing something which has never

> been discussed before,

> so with Guruji's blessings and hoping that he will correct me where I have

> made mistakes -

> Here is my analysis:

> On February 5,1962 all the planets were in Capricorn, with their degrees

> very near to the Sun,

> and therefore were combust.

> There is something called Declination (Kranti) where if the declination of

> planets if is

> nearer to the Sun's declination say within 5 degrees then the planets lose

> their

> power/strength provided they are near to Sun's longitude too.

>

> The Longitude of all planets on that day were:

> Su: 23Cap18; Mo: 23Cap33; Ma: 9Cap57; MeR: 24Cap29; Ju: 26Cap11; Ve:

> 25Cap22; Sa: 11Cap23

> Now all planets are near to the Sun and are therefore combust.

>

> The declination of all planets on that day were:

> Su: 16.12; Mo: 15.87; Ma: - 20.6; Me: - 12.40; Ju: - 15.9; Ve: - 16.74; Sa:

> - 19.66

> The declination of all planets are within 5 degrees of Sun's declination.

> The declination are all negative, meaning they are all behind Sun towards

> south direction and not north

> direction. Sun overshadows all the planets. It works as a Shield.

> The planets therefore cannot give either good or bad effects to the native

> as they are hidden behind Sun.

> Only Moon which is near to the earth will not get affected by this

> declination. Mercury being Retro

> comes in front of Sun so it also wont be affected.

>

> In the chart, Su, Mo, and Me, Ma, Sa can only give any good/bad effects to

> the native.

>

> So accordingly the points in 11th house though is 54 points doesnt have any

> meaning. Those points are

> given by planets which are ineffective and powerless. With 54 points in 11th

> house should mean his income

> is very good. But in this case, the native will be living a very simple

> life.

>

> Thanks

> Prabha

>

 

 

 

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Dear ash ji Thanks for clearing my doubts and may b prabha ji may b kind enough to further some explanations on it sure ,i hav not seen only the old KAS lessons which i was having in my Old computer which is crashed .Thanks ,i know ur difficulties with chart as u cannot even verify the genuineness of Birth time ( all texts says/warns we shud know geneuinity/correctness of querie/queriest first )sure i will post to grp the results what ever i can gather and within disclosable limits allowed to me All this was good exprnce and i took this as an opportunity to familirise with my grp memebrs the real ashtavarga technics gaurded by some traditions in india ( other than which is avilable as calssics and may b has hidden meanings or may b added some thing or even possiblity of interpolations ) . ( also u know we support ,our team without any inhibitions every thing abt indian astrology in it is antiquity and

genuineness ) Also convey my regrds and respect to guru ji and donna ji all of ur works are realy commentable with lot of rgrds sunil nair --- On Fri, 19/6/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote:Ash's Corner <kasRE: Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having ashta graha yoga Date: Friday, 19 June, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji, No, Prabha ji is using everything

that is in KAS and all principles. Now, Guru ji has given us the

portion for TIMING OF EVENTS only in the lessons. Quality and Quantum of result is treated differently and that

portion is TOTALLY different and not covered by Guru ji. Since the chart given by you is a

special chart where all the planets are in 1 house then these additional things

become important. This is the VA

portion or what we call the VA portion which deals with the Quality and Quantum

and not with Timing of Events. It might be difficult to comprehend this as the VA knowledge that

is in Texts does not differentiate these different facets and one tries to TIME

EVENTS using parameters that might be given for judging the quality / quantum. Ashtakavarga along with upchay house are used for TIMING OF

EVENT and that Portion is given clearly by Guru ji in

lessons as the TIMING OF EVENTS portion is the most difficult part and the

least understood. That might be one of the major reasons why people who have

not studied KAS in detail might think that KAS is different from Traditional VA

because things like Combust, Sign placements, and trying to gauge the power of

a planet using those parameters, and then using those for timing of

events. The Knowledge of

Ashtakavarga was lost or kept with some families like Guru ji’s

Guru ji’s family and was safe guarded therefore

corruption of the same the chances of that is very limited. The stuff available in the book today,

if u apply in 100 charts, you will find that all that stuff does not work in so

many charts. You are smart and can

put 2 and 2 together and figure out what happened and how did stuff that does

not work came into the “whats calledâ€

classics today which people quote. In any case, in the chart you have given, all the planets are

in 1 house and therefore what Prabha ji has given or

talked about also becomes important.

Still, if you had given some parameters additional to verify the chart

such as height of the native, death of parents if any, etc etc

then it would become a more comprehensive studies as one could firm up the birth

time and then can use the detailed portion as well. In any case, your mail asked for General

trend of this native using Ashtakavarga.

So, I think you have got 3 good attempts from KAS members, Anup ji, Prabha ji and myself. Atleast I am happy that this portion was talked about, which

is still GENERAL. I am sure, when Guru ji feels that the

time is right, Guru ji will gives us proper guidance

and lessons. Therefore, when you give us the answer in detail for all our

analysis, right or wrong, it will be good learning and good churning of

thought. That way, what is not

correct, we can request Guru ji to explain to us.

Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

[astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Sunil Nair

Thursday June 18, 2009 11:48

PM

To:

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Cc:

ancient_indian_ astrology

Re:

[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having ashta graha

yoga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear ash ji ,anup ji and prabha ji

 

Thanks for further discussions and calrifications on the chart

 

I know which part of mail prabha ji was using diffrnt aspects other than KAS

principle

 

dear prabha ji how u see southern and northern declination in a chart ?

 

can u explain bit more

 

is it traditional way or did u take sun and decide it or do u hav some rasies

say like 1 to 6 rasies is this declination and 6 to 12 is other

declination ie like we use in traditional astrology as viscible and

inviscible houses or do u hav some diffrnt version ,like in tradition they

say frm makaradi rasies it is northern declination and karkadi rasies it is

southern declination

 

can u pls clarify ? for benefit for all memebrs

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 19/6/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ gmail.com>

wrote:

prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ gmail.com>

[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having

ashta graha yoga

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:01 AM

 

Respected Ashji

Guruji please correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

In another post I will give my reasoning of why all planets are combust in

this chart. But why did you say that you think Ma is not combust.

Guruji please correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

Regarding my earlier post I want to make only one correction that in that I

had not mentioned Su and Mo to have negative declination. And the corrected version

is that

The declination of all planets on that day were:

Su: -16.12; Mo: -15.87; Ma: - 20.6; Me: - 12.40; Ju: - 15.9; Ve: - 16.74; Sa:

- 19.66

The declination of the planets are all negative meaning that they are all in

the southern Hemisphere ie in Dakshinayana. When they are in Northern

Hemisphere or Uttarayana then they are represented by positive sign. Its just

to show in which hemisphere the planets lie that the positive/negative sign

are shown.

Since Sun is huge and all planets are behind Sun, none of the planets are

visible from the earth or in other words none of the planets' rays reach the

earth. That is the reason that they cant show their effect and are powerless.

Mercury being retrograde is in front of Sun and nearer to the earth so its

rays are falling on earth and therefore give its affect. Similarly Moon being

close to earth doesnt lose its power.

That is the reason I said that:

SUN, MOON, MERCURY ARE THE ONLY PLANETS THAT CAN GIVE ANY GOOD/BAD RESULTS.

Thanks

Prabha

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's

Corner" <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha ji, Sunil Ji, Anup ji and list,

>

> CAUTION - THIS PORTION IS NOT TAUGHT BY GURU JI THIS PORTION IS OF VA AS

WE

> STUDY IN KAS AND NOT TO DO WITH TIMING OF EVENTS PORTION. THIS CHART IS

A

> SPECIAL CHART AND I THANK SUNIL JI FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

>

> Just a slight correction Prabha ji.

>

> In this chart, Karakansha of 11th house is Sun and Sun is in Root Karak

> sthan. Yes, the Karak Me is in 8th house from own house thereby loosing

> status. Next the Karakansha of Root Karak is Mangal and Mangal is in

Root

> Karak sthan.

>

> Both these planets i.e. Mars and Mercury are not Ast or Combust. Me

being

> retro is in front of Sun and Mars is not combust as well. So this person

> will get satisfaction for 11th house.

>

> Then just as Anup ji has said, that Mars is unccha and Shani is in own

house

> and Guru is neecha. So 2 uncha / own sign planet and 1 is neecha so this

> person will maintain the property that is created by the family /

father.

> He will have satisfaction for 11th house.

>

> He is 47 years old, still 20 more years and the question asked is for

> "PRESENT FINANCIAL STATUS". So that should be ok as of now, is

my opinion.

> In 20 years, things might be different due to reasons given by Anup ji

in

> his mail.

>

> These are some further thoughts.

>

> I have highlighted 2 more planets Ma and Sa are added to your list planets

> that are in front of Sun.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

ca/> http://www.ashtro.

ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of

Prabha

> Acharya

> Thursday June 18, 2009 5:24 AM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having

> ashta graha yoga

>

>

>

>

>

> Respected Guruji, Sunil Nair ji,

> DOB: 5-Feb-1962; TOB: 6.5 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

> Ashji and Anupji has very nicely explained the many aspects of the

chart.

> This is my first attempt on a chart discussing something which has never

> been discussed before,

> so with Guruji's blessings and hoping that he will correct me where I

have

> made mistakes -

> Here is my analysis:

> On February 5,1962 all the planets were in Capricorn, with their degrees

> very near to the Sun,

> and therefore were combust.

> There is something called Declination (Kranti) where if the declination

of

> planets if is

> nearer to the Sun's declination say within 5 degrees then the planets

lose

> their

> power/strength provided they are near to Sun's longitude too.

>

> The Longitude of all planets on that day were:

> Su: 23Cap18; Mo: 23Cap33; Ma: 9Cap57; MeR: 24Cap29; Ju: 26Cap11; Ve:

> 25Cap22; Sa: 11Cap23

> Now all planets are near to the Sun and are therefore combust.

>

> The declination of all planets on that day were:

> Su: 16.12; Mo: 15.87; Ma: - 20.6; Me: - 12.40; Ju: - 15.9; Ve: - 16.74;

Sa:

> - 19.66

> The declination of all planets are within 5 degrees of Sun's

declination.

> The declination are all negative, meaning they are all behind Sun

towards

> south direction and not north

> direction. Sun overshadows all the planets. It works as a Shield.

> The planets therefore cannot give either good or bad effects to the

native

> as they are hidden behind Sun.

> Only Moon which is near to the earth will not get affected by this

> declination. Mercury being Retro

> comes in front of Sun so it also wont be affected.

>

> In the chart, Su, Mo, and Me, Ma, Sa can only give any good/bad effects

to

> the native.

>

> So accordingly the points in 11th house though is 54 points doesnt have

any

> meaning. Those points are

> given by planets which are ineffective and powerless. With 54 points in

11th

> house should mean his income

> is very good. But in this case, the native will be living a very simple

> life.

>

> Thanks

> Prabha

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear ash ji Thanks for this chart ,Also for further explanations and respectiv pointers on how to see the chart with KAS programmay b our grp memebrs also will take up and discuss in grp further with their own

methods ( sure we allow to discuss any methods which ever is convenient so long as it is consistant and reliable has textual or parampara support except some rahu centric type of own creation theories ) sure ,i can understand the importance of verfiying events (before proceeding with predictions and timing events )when guru ji insists always make sure the correctness of birthtime once even shri Kn rao mentioned this as the famous 15 minits sysndrom of indian hospitals and medical staff ( means they see watch only when all the work is over and adjust the birth time with their fancy and always min 15

minits error is possible even after their deductions which can upset all vargas -if some one is effectively using it )even we can see most of the birth time always coming to us for scrutiny is always has some rounded time figure ,say like 8 o clock or 8.15 or 8.30 like this ,we can see the diffrnce of 15 minits plays here Thanks for ur attempts to familirise this concept with lot of rgrds sunil nair --- On Fri, 19/6/09, Ash's Corner <kas

wrote:Ash's Corner <kasRE: Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having ashta graha yoga Date: Friday, 19 June, 2009, 8:23 PM

 

 

 

Dear Sunil ji and Group Members, Thanks for your kind words.

Just to site an example. 24th May 1986 3:37 AM 12N18 76E38. This chart gives

 

 

Planet

 

Degrees

 

 

 

As

 

0 Ar 34

 

 

 

Su

 

9 Ta 42

 

 

 

Mo

 

10 Sc 31

 

 

 

Ma

 

28 Sg 48

 

 

 

Me

 

10 Ta 46

 

 

 

Ju

 

26 Aq 21

 

 

 

Ve

 

10 Ge 3

 

 

 

SaR

 

13 Sc 57

 

 

 

Ra

 

5 Ar 29

 

 

 

Ke

 

5 Li 29

 

 

The Date of Marriage is given as 20th Nov 2008. Now if this date was not given then one would assume that

this time is correct. The Laws of KAS are fixed i.e. how to compute the delay. With this chart, Sa aspects 2nd house, itself is

lord of 11th and Sa aspects Ve who is 7th

lord. This will give delay and there

after Ju aspects Ve who is 2nd and 7th

lord. This will give a lot of

delay. So marriage would not have taken

place. Now, just by changing time by a 2 mins you get Pisces lagna

 

 

Planet

 

Degrees

 

 

 

As

 

29 Pi 59

 

 

 

Su

 

9 Ta 42

 

 

 

Mo

 

10 Sc 30

 

 

 

Ma

 

28 Sg 48

 

 

 

Me

 

10 Ta 46

 

 

 

Ju

 

26 Aq 21

 

 

 

Ve

 

10 Ge 3

 

 

 

SaR

 

13 Sc 57

 

 

 

Ra

 

5 Ar 29

 

 

 

Ke

 

5 Li 29

 

 

With this lagna, there is no delay due to Saturn nor by Guru. So marriage will happen in first possible strong period. Now

a days people finish graduation so 21 / 22 years is ok. So marriage happens in Guru antra. Guru is in 12th house , i.e. House

E and is SD to Ve who is in 4th house i.e.

House D with 5 bindus. So guru is eager

and it gave marriage. Yes, that said, we need more and more events to make sure

that all events are in line with Pisces lagna.

This is just one event, and Guru ji had told

us to put in due diligence and study many events, even before going for timing

of event. First we must make sure of the

birth time. This chart, I just came across in another group and its like Nimita, while I read your mail and next mail I saw was this

so am taking my time to post it with my thoughts. I agree with your mail and also your effort to bring KAS

system to all your group members. Kind Regards,

Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

[astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Sunil Nair

Friday June 19, 2009 2:32 AM

To:

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Cc:

ancient_indian_ astrology

RE: [astrologyandtiming events]

Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having ashta graha yoga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear ash ji

 

Thanks for clearing my doubts and may b prabha ji may b kind enough to

further some explanations on it

 

sure ,i hav not seen only the old KAS lessons which i was

having in my Old computer which is crashed .

 

Thanks ,i know ur difficulties with chart as u cannot even verify the

genuineness of Birth time ( all texts says/warns we shud know

geneuinity/correctn ess of querie/queriest first )

 

sure i will post to grp the

results what ever i can gather and within disclosable limits

allowed to me

 

All this was good exprnce and i took this as an opportunity to

familirise with my grp memebrs the real ashtavarga technics

gaurded by some traditions in india ( other than which is avilable as

calssics and may b has hidden meanings or may b added some thing or even

possiblity of interpolations ) . ( also u know we support ,our team without

any inhibitions every thing abt indian astrology in it is antiquity and

genuineness )

 

Also convey my regrds and respect to guru ji and donna ji

 

 

all of ur works are realy commentable

 

with lot of rgrds sunil nair

 

--- On Fri, 19/6/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca

<kas

wrote:

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas

RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart

having ashta graha yoga

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Friday, 19 June, 2009, 10:02 AM

 

 

Dear Sunil ji, No, Prabha ji is

using everything that is in KAS and all principles. Now, Guru ji has

given us the portion for TIMING OF EVENTS only in the lessons. Quality and Quantum of result is treated

differently and that portion is TOTALLY different and not covered by Guru ji. Since the chart given by you is a special chart

where all the planets are in 1 house then these additional things become

important. This is the VA portion or what we call the VA portion which

deals with the Quality and Quantum and not with Timing of Events. It might be difficult to comprehend this

as the VA knowledge that is in Texts does not differentiate these different

facets and one tries to TIME EVENTS using parameters that might be given for

judging the quality / quantum. Ashtakavarga along with upchay house are

used for TIMING OF EVENT and that Portion is given clearly by Guru ji in lessons as the TIMING OF EVENTS portion is the most

difficult part and the least understood. That might be one of the major reasons why

people who have not studied KAS in detail might think that KAS is different

from Traditional VA because things like Combust, Sign placements, and trying

to gauge the power of a planet using those parameters, and then using those

for timing of events. The Knowledge of Ashtakavarga was lost or

kept with some families like Guru ji’s Guru ji’s family and was safe guarded therefore corruption of

the same the chances of that is very limited. The stuff available in

the book today, if u apply in 100 charts, you will find that all that stuff

does not work in so many charts. You are smart and can put 2 and 2

together and figure out what happened and how did stuff that does not work

came into the “whats called†classics today which

people quote. In any case, in the chart you have given,

all the planets are in 1 house and therefore what Prabha ji

has given or talked about also becomes important. Still, if you had

given some parameters additional to verify the chart such as height of the

native, death of parents if any, etc etc then it

would become a more comprehensive studies as one could firm up the birth time

and then can use the detailed portion as well. In any case, your mail

asked for General trend of this native using Ashtakavarga. So, I think

you have got 3 good attempts from KAS members, Anup

ji, Prabha ji and myself. Atleast I am happy that this portion was

talked about, which is still GENERAL. I am sure, when Guru ji

feels that the time is right, Guru ji will gives us

proper guidance and lessons. Therefore, when you give us the answer in

detail for all our analysis, right or wrong, it will be good learning and

good churning of thought. That way, what is not correct, we can request

Guru ji to explain to us.

Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca

 

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Sunil Nair

Thursday June 18, 2009

11:48 PM

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

Cc: ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [astrologyandtiming

events] Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart having ashta graha yoga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear ash ji ,anup ji and prabha ji

 

Thanks for further discussions and calrifications on the chart

 

I know which part of mail prabha ji was using diffrnt aspects other than

KAS principle

 

dear prabha ji how u see southern and northern declination in a chart

?

 

can u explain bit more

 

is it traditional way or did u take sun and decide it or do u hav some

rasies say like 1 to 6 rasies is this declination and 6 to 12

is other declination ie like we use in traditional astrology as viscible

and inviscible houses or do u hav some diffrnt version ,like in tradition

they say frm makaradi rasies it is northern declination and karkadi rasies

it is southern declination

 

can u pls clarify ? for benefit for all memebrs

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 19/6/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ gmail.com>

wrote:

prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ gmail.com>

[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Ashtakvarga analysis of chart

having ashta graha yoga

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:01 AM

 

Respected

Ashji

Guruji please correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

In another post I will give my reasoning of why all planets are combust in

this chart. But why did you say that you think Ma is not combust.

Guruji please correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

Regarding my earlier post I want to make only one correction that in that I

had not mentioned Su and Mo to have negative declination. And the corrected

version is that

The declination of all planets on that day were:

Su: -16.12; Mo: -15.87; Ma: - 20.6; Me: - 12.40; Ju: - 15.9; Ve: - 16.74;

Sa: - 19.66

The declination of the planets are all negative meaning that they are all

in the southern Hemisphere ie in Dakshinayana. When they are in Northern

Hemisphere or Uttarayana then they are represented by positive sign. Its

just to show in which hemisphere the planets lie that the positive/negative

sign are shown.

Since Sun is huge and all planets are behind Sun, none of the planets are

visible from the earth or in other words none of the planets' rays reach

the earth. That is the reason that they cant show their effect and are

powerless. Mercury being retrograde is in front of Sun and nearer to the

earth so its rays are falling on earth and therefore give its affect.

Similarly Moon being close to earth doesnt lose its power.

That is the reason I said that:

SUN, MOON, MERCURY ARE THE ONLY PLANETS THAT CAN GIVE ANY GOOD/BAD RESULTS.

Thanks

Prabha

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's

Corner" <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha ji, Sunil Ji, Anup ji and list,

>

> CAUTION - THIS PORTION IS NOT TAUGHT BY GURU JI THIS PORTION IS OF VA

AS WE

> STUDY IN KAS AND NOT TO DO WITH TIMING OF EVENTS PORTION. THIS CHART

IS A

> SPECIAL CHART AND I THANK SUNIL JI FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

>

> Just a slight correction Prabha ji.

>

> In this chart, Karakansha of 11th house is Sun and Sun is in Root

Karak

> sthan. Yes, the Karak Me is in 8th house from own house thereby

loosing

> status. Next the Karakansha of Root Karak is Mangal and Mangal is in

Root

> Karak sthan.

>

> Both these planets i.e. Mars and Mercury are not Ast or Combust. Me

being

> retro is in front of Sun and Mars is not combust as well. So this

person

> will get satisfaction for 11th house.

>

> Then just as Anup ji has said, that Mars is unccha and Shani is in own

house

> and Guru is neecha. So 2 uncha / own sign planet and 1 is neecha so

this

> person will maintain the property that is created by the family /

father.

> He will have satisfaction for 11th house.

>

> He is 47 years old, still 20 more years and the question asked is for

> "PRESENT FINANCIAL STATUS". So that should be ok as of now,

is my opinion.

> In 20 years, things might be different due to reasons given by Anup ji

in

> his mail.

>

> These are some further thoughts.

>

> I have highlighted 2 more planets Ma and Sa are added to your list

planets

> that are in front of Sun.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

ca/> http://www.ashtro.

ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyan dtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of

Prabha

> Acharya

> Thursday June 18, 2009 5:24 AM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Ashtakvarga analysis of chart

having

> ashta graha yoga

>

>

>

>

>

> Respected Guruji, Sunil Nair ji,

> DOB: 5-Feb-1962; TOB: 6.5 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

> Ashji and Anupji has very nicely explained the many aspects of the

chart.

> This is my first attempt on a chart discussing something which has

never

> been discussed before,

> so with Guruji's blessings and hoping that he will correct me where I

have

> made mistakes -

> Here is my analysis:

> On February 5,1962 all the planets were in Capricorn, with their

degrees

> very near to the Sun,

> and therefore were combust.

> There is something called Declination (Kranti) where if the

declination of

> planets if is

> nearer to the Sun's declination say within 5 degrees then the planets

lose

> their

> power/strength provided they are near to Sun's longitude too.

>

> The Longitude of all planets on that day were:

> Su: 23Cap18; Mo: 23Cap33; Ma: 9Cap57; MeR: 24Cap29; Ju: 26Cap11; Ve:

> 25Cap22; Sa: 11Cap23

> Now all planets are near to the Sun and are therefore combust.

>

> The declination of all planets on that day were:

> Su: 16.12; Mo: 15.87; Ma: - 20.6; Me: - 12.40; Ju: - 15.9; Ve: -

16.74; Sa:

> - 19.66

> The declination of all planets are within 5 degrees of Sun's

declination.

> The declination are all negative, meaning they are all behind Sun

towards

> south direction and not north

> direction. Sun overshadows all the planets. It works as a Shield.

> The planets therefore cannot give either good or bad effects to the

native

> as they are hidden behind Sun.

> Only Moon which is near to the earth will not get affected by this

> declination. Mercury being Retro

> comes in front of Sun so it also wont be affected.

>

> In the chart, Su, Mo, and Me, Ma, Sa can only give any good/bad

effects to

> the native.

>

> So accordingly the points in 11th house though is 54 points doesnt

have any

> meaning. Those points are

> given by planets which are ineffective and powerless. With 54 points

in 11th

> house should mean his income

> is very good. But in this case, the native will be living a very

simple

> life.

>

> Thanks

> Prabha

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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