Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Dear Respected Sunil Ji, After giving such wonderful thoughts and suggestions, you wrote: " may b u can reject this suggestion outrightly as i dont hav any texts to support my views except my exprnce " Who will reject whom? Have you ever seen water flow from a lower elevation to a higher elevation? It can never happen. Similarly knowledge also goes in one direction and can only be assimilated by the student sitting on the ground and teacher on the pedestal. Not the other way around. I consider all in this group as my teachers and myself a humble student. You gave some excellent points and I will incorporate them in my analysis and will share with the group when I get some free time. I am behind a project at work so I might be less active for a few weeks. Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Monday, June 22, 2009 9:54:01 AM Re: No Mangal Dosha - 4 exalted planets. Dear Manoj ji sure ,as being part of kerala tradition i find generaly the gulika ( gulika and mandi we take as same and many times it givs diffrnt position than J HOra ,but i got manual calculation methods tho due to busy shedule i cud not work on it ) is working realy great in all charts .so kerala tradition has 10 planets including gulika only assossiation or aspect of jupiter can mellow it s effect on rasi or Lord generaly . but chasticity matters i request u to see 4th House in a ladies chart than 5th H pls u do ur own reserch and u can inform me and grp as 4th house rules real mind ,mentality ,how it can affect in this birth ( i think that is why malefics in this place givs always givs disturbance in life generaly unless they r exalted or benefics frm lagna or natural benefics ) affliction to venus also governs morality generaly ( double or more afflictions r worst and see is ther is any jupiterian dristi which can purify venusian aspects in life ) but moksha karaka ketu can deny or delay only ,so i assume this lady can b more spiritual than utilised this given opportunity ( sure desa ,kala ,patra ,paristithi and ideals of a society alwys rules in this matters ) also since u concentrate in 5th H ,which also merits frm past life ,i request u to take 5th House in a diffrnt way take 5th H as lagna and see the planets in 8th H ( this is just to see the past life sins or merits ) u can see 7th L afflicted in 4th H ( frm 5th H ) ,means her past life which she cheated on her hubby or spouce is haunting her in this birth ,u can arrive at many reading this way ,using or treating 5th H as lagna ( now even u know why we treat good kids is part of merits of past life ) may b u can reject this suggestion outrightly as i dont hav any texts to support my views except my exprnce with charts and my guru's advise ( again i am basing my memory and some notes as i hardly has any texts in custody ) rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Suni Ji, > > Yes you are correct. There is quite a bit of affliction to 5th house matters. I was focussing more on 5th house as house of morality for infidelity purposes. It is interesting how things mingle together. Also I have so far never taken Upagrahas into account for my readings. Do you find all upagrahas useful or just Mandi? > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, June 22, 2009 7:41:38 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: No Mangal Dosha - 4 exalted planets. dear Manoj chandran ji > > due to my busy shedule in office which is non astrological i cannot participate in quality discussion .also here my computer dont hav my other 4 softwares too .Also my malayalam software which givs Gulika position according to kerala astrology is not in handy now > > Jhora is giving gulika in 5th H ,5th L sun has aspect of mars tho lagna Lord but also 8th L > > jupiter the karaka for kids also afflicted > > 5th H frm jupiter also afflicted by mars and double afflicted rahu is influencing the jup (mean s he can carry the sani effect too ) > 5th H frm lagna has aspect of 2 malefics ,luckily Lord has drishti of one malefic only who happened to b lagna lord too other wise results wud hav been severe . > > that is why i asked is there is any mishapps or abortions etc happened to this lady > > rgrds sunil nair > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Chiranjiv Ji, > > > > Pardon my typo. The 5th Lord is not that afflicted but 5th house is afflcited by both Sa and Ma. > > > > Regards, > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, June 22, 2009 7:08:44 AM > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: No Mangal Dosha - 4 exalted planets. > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv Ji, > > > > Sunil Ji and Anantha Krishnan Ji have already commented from the native's perspective. So I tried some thing a little different by rotating the chart. As Sunil Ji has already mentioned there are pointers from the Native's perspective as well that marriage will not be very cordial. I also have to state that from the Native's perspective also there could have been opportunities for other relationships, but the strength of the 9th lord and Jupiter makes me pause before giving a wrong judgement (because 9th lord is lord of dharma). Although the 5th lord of morality is afflicted in the native's chart, which is probably why Sunil Ji correctly questioned about the native's children's status. Here again the strength of the Karaka Jupiter may have trumped the 5th lords afflictions. > > > > I agree that the husband's chart will be most intruiging to analyze. > > > > Regards, > > > > -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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