Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 thanks sunil ji for your nice inputs.. by CSW i mean Commercil Sex Worker The prime reason visitng CSW it seems is the frustration of not getting a spouse..As he is good and talented ,doing well in his job...He is working with his father in his family business setup...he was very good in studies but couldnt do post graduation due to some other problems...Also is quite good in stock mkts and his judgement in stocks is quite good. yep you are ture life has been a roller coaster ride,with health problems leading to many other failures in his life..but yet i think jupiter in 5th house,vargottam in navmansa also taking the lagna position has possibly saved him and also made him a good person...--- On Sat, 27/6/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House Date: Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 2:04 AM Dear deepen ji Thanks for this chart I dont understand 2 things s in ur mail 1 ) who has recently started visiting to CSW , 2) ut what for someone who hasnt got married or lost his spouse....Even for that person that act classifies into an Adharma...what is this CSW and r u asking me question on what is dharma or adharma I am not capable to giv answer for it ,and based on Kala ,desa ,patra it may vary this much only i can say ,more u can ask to dharma acharyas ,i may try to giv answers based on chart and tru astrology .Here 7th Bhava papakarthari and 7th L also papakarthari ( venus between sun and mandi ( gulika ) 7th Has merc ,so the environmnt to change in nature of preferences already can b seen .why merc is treated as nampumsaka it is considered as a boy ( means who is not mature ,or who dont hav beeja bala ,or even not attained maturity ,so cannot perfeorm sex in proper way ( dont take literal sense ) means some changes in habbits can happen if it is sani ( here the other things like exaltations shud considered sani is vridha and hence has no nervous power and hence nampuska ,mean too old to perform he has sani in 7th House ,also sani may giv attractions towards old ,unclean ,low status relation ships 8th House afflicted and 8th and 8th Lords r affcted ,sani is also aspecting to 8th House unless properly matched marriage may break or can hav some problems in marriage life ,here u can see sun is debilated and giv his amsa to saptamamsa ( 7th House in Tula ) also 8th L mars is also weak in navamsa ,also he is lagna Lord again along with dushta parivarthan between sun and mars ,the 5th H and Lord (sun) and 9th House and Lord ( jup) ,all r afflicted venus tho aspected by jupiter who himself is doubly afflicted jup also 9th L of dharma also the the universal atma karaka sun has sani drishi ( it is frm sun where all atma s born ,simple logic i can giv u ,frm food every thing happens ( even body ,beeja --i dont want to explain all process ,it is in ayurvedic texts ) and without sun no food ,so annam is produced with sun energy hence sun controls souls ) i am not a expert in jaimini system ,AK means atma karaka ,he is not welcome in 7th House ,as 7th is always sort of astamaya ( setting sign ) ,that is why generaly lagna lord in 7th is unwelcomed also natural atmakaraka Sun also gone to 8th House and in parivarthanaalso he is debilated in Navamsa ,a varga which we see matters related to marriage so such incidents and later such habbits r possible he shud hav to remdy the jupiterian affliction also irrational irratic behaviour also possible ( means a sort of guru changala yoga is there here jup is doubly afflicted and hence worst --it will reduce godly help or devine help ,they may abuse also gurus and such ppl ) what is his profession ??they may do well in scientic or technical related professions rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. com, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear sunil ji and grp members,> > i am giving you details ,who has recently started visiting to CSW ,> Date :28/11/1979> Time:4:15 pm> Place: Mumbai> > The logic of mercury that you explained can be the reason as that person is having mercury in Libra(7thh house) ,hemmed between Saturn in VIrgo ( 6th house), Sun in scorpio(8th house)..Also Mercury is the AK of this chart..what can be its implications. ..> He possibly has an inclination towards older woman (by that i mean older than him) can be inferrd by saturn in virgo???> Also staying faithful to one's spouse is a Dharma and if one who wavers from it can be classified into Adharma...> but what for someone who hasnt got married or lost his spouse...Even for that person that act classifies into an Adharma...> > > > --- On Fri, 26/6/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, 26 June, 2009, 12:42 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear neelam Ji ,renu ji and sathesh ji> > sathesh ji s chart let me add some thing on neelam ji s valid obsevations> > Venus is close to dharma karaka sun ,even tho technicaly it is in 8th H ( out of 2 houses ruled by mars the aries H deals also dharma and better than scorpio House as it is more positiv house by mars ) here we must think natural 5th L of kalapurusha chart is exalted here and venus is also 9th L of dharma of this chart> > again we can see jupiterian aspect ( he will discipline such tendencies too ) on all dharma trikona s> > also see 5th L and 9th H is connected by saturnian stithi ,also sat in 9th H can giv a sort of sanyasa yoga ( tho not literaly but one of the combination of parivarjya yoga ) also venus combust here ( Jhora is not giving venus combust i dont know why )> Untitled> > sathessh ji s Chart> > April 15, 1973> Time: 19:28:00> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 0 W 22' 00", 51 N 29' 00"> Hounslow, United Kingdom> > Tithi: Sukla Chaturdasi (Ve) (75.28% left)> Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> Nakshatra: Hastha (Mo) (91.55% left)> > Sunrise: 6:11:55> Sunset: 19:52:16> > > > > > Now on to charts posted by renu ji> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> 1. Natal Chart> > June 16, 1957> Time: 17:54:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> Colombo, Sri Lanka.> > > Married to a rich lady .> ------------ --------- --------- ------> > How this happened ?? is it because 7th L in 8th House with 8th L in 7th House ( so a parivarthana but a dushta parivarhtna yoga which cannot sustain the good effects of this yoga ) and 8th House controls windfall gains ,also 7th L exalted in navamsa ,also dipositer is welplaced and again givn amsa to 2nd House of chart in own House dhanu rasi ??> > also 2nd L JUP and 7th L venus aspecting also his 2nd House> > I think we need to study more of this kind of married to rich combos more frm practical charts> > he is fond of even servant girls> ------------ --------- --------- -> > Sani is placed in lagna with mercurian aspect on lagan and lagna Lord debilated in 9th House ( this influence on Lagna is not good generaly as Lagna is person himself and Lagna karaka sun also gone to 8th House> > Lagna also Natural 8th House ,also some sort of female tendencies more in chart ( i dont know going to many ladies can b considered as realy manliness) ,Lagna is a femlae sign ,noon in a female sign ,mars the Lagna lord is again in a female sign> > rahu has givn 7th H in rishabaamsa and sani in lagna and merc in 7th House ( all this r planets can mutate effects as all this r Nampusaka planets ,( sat and rahu is purusha napumsaka grahas and merc is being a young student it is considered not mature one hence stree nampoomsaka ,so i think he has a phychological problem than he is realy realy after sex ,i think it is some confidence problem tho he is father of 2 boys> > also merc alone in 7th House ,as a planet of immaturity ,and holds 2 signs in KP chart ( kalapurusha ) mithuna ( in rasi swaroopa-streelola surothopachara ,means more fond of Ladies and expert in upachara ( means a sort of play or foreplay --i cannot exactly translate this word in english ) also natural virgo a House of virginity ( kanya or kanyakatwa )so again shows some sort of immaturity .So such person generaly realy seen as failure in married life ( tho medicaly they r fit or found to b fit --i hav many cases in reality those persons has no problem s but they r not mentaly prepared to hav own wife( even their wifes told me they dont hav any problems but this persons found even avoiding them and negeting them this by not coming in house or avoid by saying some excuses ) and they may b seen with other ladies in doubtful situations ) but shows adventrue with other ladies who is old ( old means older than them than realy old ladies ),or even Low> kind ladies like this ,they like disparity than real status( legaly married and allowed by society ) ladies> > i dont know i realy conveyed what i wanted to tell due to some words in sanskrit and malayalam i cannot get right words for it and i dont hav much time also to spend for searching for right words> > 2. Natal Chart> > February 26, 1962> Time: 15:45:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > Again u can see some similarity repeats in this chart too ( i dont hav time to write everything again )> > i request group to take up this kind of charts and further do discussions> > there is so many things i know i omitted in charts due to non availability of quality time> > rgrds sunil nair> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> >> > Thanks for sharing the interesting data. Often seen that dharma lords> > (1/5/9) are always weak, afflicted and in inimical signs in such cases.> > Awasthas also are important pointers, alongwith lordships.> >> > Sun-Ven in 8H like in Sateesh ji's case, an exalted, vargottam 12Lsun in 8H,> > whose dispositor mars exalts in 5H of poorv merits which can give spiritual> > inclinations and practices, and venus is also 9L/2L encouraging him to> > maintain discipline and code of conduct, which make him rather 'shy away'> > from closed secretive places and women. Jupiter though debilitated, is lord> > of kendras in kona and a rajyogkarak. So will uphold dharma, yet may mislead> > his wisdom at times, like not being able to use discretionary power, or over> > influenced by some cult, etc. In navamsha, venus is in own house with jup in> > 9H are good. But I feel 8L debilitated in navamsha does show some weakness> > due to which he's likely to suffer his 8H actions, even though they be> > spiritual.> >> > Hope members are able to take up discussion on the two cases provided by> > you.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> > 2009/6/25 renunw renunw@> >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sunil ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the explanations.> > >> > > //*so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or even dont> > > mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows the> > > willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and hidden frm> > > public view )*//> > >> > > After reading this.....I should at least post two charts, since both these> > > married men, would go to the extent of sleeping with the maid servants in> > > their houses...> > >> > > 1. Natal Chart> > >> > > June 16, 1957> > > Time: 17:54:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > Colombo, Sri Lanka.> > >> > > This person married a rich girl, love marriage, have two sons from the> > > marriage, but goes out with any woman. He would say he was flying to> > > Singapore on a business trip...but end up in a 5 star hotel in the local> > > town with a woman. In fact he had sold and wasted all his wife's vast> > > property.... even the last coconut tree that belonged to her. Never would he> > > hesitate to creep into servant's room in the nights.> > >> > >> > >> > > 2. Natal Chart> > >> > > February 26, 1962> > > Time: 15:45:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > >> > > This man..... married, divorced.... .did not spare the servants of his> > > mother's house even,....and now married again and settled...hopefully . Don't> > > know much about him now....heard the couple is happy. As a matter of fact> > > this second wife also has Su, Ve combo in her 8th house...may be they get on> > > well for this reason.> > >> > > Hope this would show some light and warning to prospective brides...and of> > > course to prospective grooms too...> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > dear renu ji> > > >> > > > Thanks for ur good words> > > >> > > > sure 8th H is House of secrecy and 5th is house of romance too ,7th H> > > > decides how we approach other opposite sex even> > > >> > > > so it can show some secrecy ,hidden things ,environmnts etc in matters> > > > related to 5th and 7th H indications> > > >> > > > natural 8th H also deals with gutters ( means cellars ,underground rooms> > > > ,even where waiste water runns etc ) and scorpion,worms etc as it is> > > > keeta rasi ,so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or> > > > even dont mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows> > > > the willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and> > > > hidden frm public view )> > > >> > > > even i find such persons marriages first happened in secret ( like after> > > > a run away ,elopements etc ) then may b family announced it public and> > > > done another public function as marriage> > > >> > > > also frm 7th house to 12th H the 6 Houses rules viscible part of zodiac> > > > and hence the tendencies are more pronounced too> > > >> > > > so venus ,7th L ,5th L etc will show that qualities if it is in viscible> > > > part> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > PS -pls post the charts and let grp discuss abt various tendencies> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil ji & Neelam ji and the group,> > > > >> > > > > Sure, I do understand your busy schedule.> > > > >> > > > > I just noticed this combo, common in a few charts and wondered whether> > > > it had anything to do with their loose characters, since Sun is the 5HL> > > > and Venus is the 7HL of the Kalapurusha chart, and 8th is the house of> > > > secrecy.> > > > >> > > > > Neelam ji or if anyone else, if interested in this, I will surely post> > > > a few charts.> > > > >> > > > > //so i pray vishnu to giv her more directions and guidance to guide> > > > us//> > > > >> > > > > I too pray for nothing less on good wishes bestowed on Neelam ji by> > > > Sunil ji....> > > > >> > > > > blessings,> > > > >> > > > > Renu> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! 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Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 dear Deepen Ji Thanks for ur feedbacks on chart what is the nature of his family business he is good in sharemarket and good in judgements of stock ,thanks for this His 5th and 8th ( also lagna Lord ) and 11th H has connections and jup as 9th L aspecting 2nd L too frm 5th House of speculation ,this may b reason what is his nature of investmnt in shares -is it intraday or some long term ?He is good person but some actions may make him to do against so many established norms of society and will back fire on him ,unless he remedy this 5th house afflictions and jup even it may affct marriage ( even getting married and later in married life too ) rgrds sunil nair , deepen thakkar <justcoolout wrote:>> thanks sunil ji > for your nice inputs..> > by CSW i mean Commercil Sex Worker> > The prime reason visitng CSW it seems is the frustration of not getting a spouse..As he is good and talented ,doing well in his job...He is working with his father in his family business setup...he was very good in studies but couldnt do post graduation due to some other problems...Also is quite good in stock mkts and his judgement in stocks is quite good.> yep you are ture life has been a roller coaster ride,with health problems leading to many other failures in his life..but yet i think jupiter in 5th house,vargottam in navmansa also taking the lagna position has possibly saved him and also made him a good person...> > --- On Sat, 27/6/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House> > Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 2:04 AM> > > > > > > > > > Dear deepen ji > > Thanks for this chart > > I dont understand 2 things s in ur mail 1 ) who has recently started visiting to CSW , 2) ut what for someone who hasnt got married or lost his spouse...Even for that person that act classifies into an Adharma...> > what is this CSW > > and r u asking me question on what is dharma or adharma > > I am not capable to giv answer for it ,and based on Kala ,desa ,patra it may vary this much only i can say ,more u can ask to dharma acharyas ,i may try to giv answers based on chart and tru astrology .> > Here 7th Bhava papakarthari and 7th L also papakarthari ( venus between sun and mandi ( gulika ) 7th Has merc ,so the environmnt to change in nature of preferences already can b seen .> > why merc is treated as nampumsaka > > it is considered as a boy ( means who is not mature ,or who dont hav beeja bala ,or even not attained maturity ,so cannot perfeorm sex in proper way ( dont take literal sense ) means some changes in habbits can happen > > if it is sani ( here the other things like exaltations shud considered > > sani is vridha and hence has no nervous power and hence nampuska ,mean too old to perform > > he has sani in 7th House ,also sani may giv attractions towards old ,unclean ,low status relation ships > > 8th House afflicted and 8th and 8th Lords r affcted ,sani is also aspecting to 8th House > > unless properly matched marriage may break or can hav some problems in marriage life ,here u can see sun is debilated and giv his amsa to saptamamsa ( 7th House in Tula ) > > also 8th L mars is also weak in navamsa ,also he is lagna Lord > > again along with dushta parivarthan between sun and mars ,the 5th H and Lord (sun) and 9th House and Lord ( jup) ,all r afflicted > > venus tho aspected by jupiter who himself is doubly afflicted > > jup also 9th L of dharma > > also the the universal atma karaka sun has sani drishi ( it is frm sun where all atma s born ,simple logic i can giv u ,frm food every thing happens ( even body ,beeja --i dont want to explain all process ,it is in ayurvedic texts ) and without sun no food ,so annam is produced with sun energy hence sun controls souls ) > > i am not a expert in jaimini system ,AK means atma karaka ,he is not welcome in 7th House ,as 7th is always sort of astamaya ( setting sign ) ,that is why generaly lagna lord in 7th is unwelcomed > > also natural atmakaraka Sun also gone to 8th House and in parivarthana> > also he is debilated in Navamsa ,a varga which we see matters related to marriage > > so such incidents and later such habbits r possible > > he shud hav to remdy the jupiterian affliction also irrational irratic behaviour also possible ( means a sort of guru changala yoga is there here jup is doubly afflicted and hence worst --it will reduce godly help or devine help ,they may abuse also gurus and such ppl ) > > what is his profession ??they may do well in scientic or technical related professions > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear sunil ji and grp members,> > > > i am giving you details ,who has recently started visiting to CSW ,> > Date :28/11/1979> > Time:4:15 pm> > Place: Mumbai> > > > The logic of mercury that you explained can be the reason as that person is having mercury in Libra(7thh house) ,hemmed between Saturn in VIrgo ( 6th house), Sun in scorpio(8th house)..Also Mercury is the AK of this chart..what can be its implications. ..> > He possibly has an inclination towards older woman (by that i mean older than him) can be inferrd by saturn in virgo???> > Also staying faithful to one's spouse is a Dharma and if one who wavers from it can be classified into Adharma...> > but what for someone who hasnt got married or lost his spouse...Even for that person that act classifies into an Adharma...> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 26/6/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 26 June, 2009, 12:42 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear neelam Ji ,renu ji and sathesh ji> > > > sathesh ji s chart let me add some thing on neelam ji s valid obsevations> > > > Venus is close to dharma karaka sun ,even tho technicaly it is in 8th H ( out of 2 houses ruled by mars the aries H deals also dharma and better than scorpio House as it is more positiv house by mars ) here we must think natural 5th L of kalapurusha chart is exalted here and venus is also 9th L of dharma of this chart> > > > again we can see jupiterian aspect ( he will discipline such tendencies too ) on all dharma trikona s> > > > also see 5th L and 9th H is connected by saturnian stithi ,also sat in 9th H can giv a sort of sanyasa yoga ( tho not literaly but one of the combination of parivarjya yoga ) also venus combust here ( Jhora is not giving venus combust i dont know why )> > Untitled> > > > sathessh ji s Chart> > > > April 15, 1973> > Time: 19:28:00> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 0 W 22' 00", 51 N 29' 00"> > Hounslow, United Kingdom> > > > Tithi: Sukla Chaturdasi (Ve) (75.28% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > Nakshatra: Hastha (Mo) (91.55% left)> > > > Sunrise: 6:11:55> > Sunset: 19:52:16> > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to charts posted by renu ji> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> > 1. Natal Chart> > > > June 16, 1957> > Time: 17:54:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > Colombo, Sri Lanka.> > > > > > Married to a rich lady .> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > How this happened ?? is it because 7th L in 8th House with 8th L in 7th House ( so a parivarthana but a dushta parivarhtna yoga which cannot sustain the good effects of this yoga ) and 8th House controls windfall gains ,also 7th L exalted in navamsa ,also dipositer is welplaced and again givn amsa to 2nd House of chart in own House dhanu rasi ??> > > > also 2nd L JUP and 7th L venus aspecting also his 2nd House> > > > I think we need to study more of this kind of married to rich combos more frm practical charts> > > > he is fond of even servant girls> > ------------ --------- --------- -> > > > Sani is placed in lagna with mercurian aspect on lagan and lagna Lord debilated in 9th House ( this influence on Lagna is not good generaly as Lagna is person himself and Lagna karaka sun also gone to 8th House> > > > Lagna also Natural 8th House ,also some sort of female tendencies more in chart ( i dont know going to many ladies can b considered as realy manliness) ,Lagna is a femlae sign ,noon in a female sign ,mars the Lagna lord is again in a female sign> > > > rahu has givn 7th H in rishabaamsa and sani in lagna and merc in 7th House ( all this r planets can mutate effects as all this r Nampusaka planets ,( sat and rahu is purusha napumsaka grahas and merc is being a young student it is considered not mature one hence stree nampoomsaka ,so i think he has a phychological problem than he is realy realy after sex ,i think it is some confidence problem tho he is father of 2 boys> > > > also merc alone in 7th House ,as a planet of immaturity ,and holds 2 signs in KP chart ( kalapurusha ) mithuna ( in rasi swaroopa-streelola surothopachara ,means more fond of Ladies and expert in upachara ( means a sort of play or foreplay --i cannot exactly translate this word in english ) also natural virgo a House of virginity ( kanya or kanyakatwa )so again shows some sort of immaturity .So such person generaly realy seen as failure in married life ( tho medicaly they r fit or found to b fit --i hav many cases in reality those persons has no problem s but they r not mentaly prepared to hav own wife( even their wifes told me they dont hav any problems but this persons found even avoiding them and negeting them this by not coming in house or avoid by saying some excuses ) and they may b seen with other ladies in doubtful situations ) but shows adventrue with other ladies who is old ( old means older than them than realy old ladies ),or even Low> > kind ladies like this ,they like disparity than real status( legaly married and allowed by society ) ladies> > > > i dont know i realy conveyed what i wanted to tell due to some words in sanskrit and malayalam i cannot get right words for it and i dont hav much time also to spend for searching for right words> > > > 2. Natal Chart> > > > February 26, 1962> > Time: 15:45:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > > > Again u can see some similarity repeats in this chart too ( i dont hav time to write everything again )> > > > i request group to take up this kind of charts and further do discussions> > > > there is so many things i know i omitted in charts due to non availability of quality time> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu ji,> > >> > > Thanks for sharing the interesting data. Often seen that dharma lords> > > (1/5/9) are always weak, afflicted and in inimical signs in such cases.> > > Awasthas also are important pointers, alongwith lordships.> > >> > > Sun-Ven in 8H like in Sateesh ji's case, an exalted, vargottam 12Lsun in 8H,> > > whose dispositor mars exalts in 5H of poorv merits which can give spiritual> > > inclinations and practices, and venus is also 9L/2L encouraging him to> > > maintain discipline and code of conduct, which make him rather 'shy away'> > > from closed secretive places and women. Jupiter though debilitated, is lord> > > of kendras in kona and a rajyogkarak. So will uphold dharma, yet may mislead> > > his wisdom at times, like not being able to use discretionary power, or over> > > influenced by some cult, etc. In navamsha, venus is in own house with jup in> > > 9H are good. But I feel 8L debilitated in navamsha does show some weakness> > > due to which he's likely to suffer his 8H actions, even though they be> > > spiritual.> > >> > > Hope members are able to take up discussion on the two cases provided by> > > you.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/6/25 renunw renunw@> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > >> > > > Thanks for the explanations.> > > >> > > > //*so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or even dont> > > > mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows the> > > > willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and hidden frm> > > > public view )*//> > > >> > > > After reading this.....I should at least post two charts, since both these> > > > married men, would go to the extent of sleeping with the maid servants in> > > > their houses...> > > >> > > > 1. Natal Chart> > > >> > > > June 16, 1957> > > > Time: 17:54:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > > Colombo, Sri Lanka.> > > >> > > > This person married a rich girl, love marriage, have two sons from the> > > > marriage, but goes out with any woman. He would say he was flying to> > > > Singapore on a business trip...but end up in a 5 star hotel in the local> > > > town with a woman. In fact he had sold and wasted all his wife's vast> > > > property.... even the last coconut tree that belonged to her. Never would he> > > > hesitate to creep into servant's room in the nights.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2. Natal Chart> > > >> > > > February 26, 1962> > > > Time: 15:45:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > >> > > > This man..... married, divorced.... .did not spare the servants of his> > > > mother's house even,....and now married again and settled...hopefully . Don't> > > > know much about him now....heard the couple is happy. As a matter of fact> > > > this second wife also has Su, Ve combo in her 8th house...may be they get on> > > > well for this reason.> > > >> > > > Hope this would show some light and warning to prospective brides...and of> > > > course to prospective grooms too...> > > >> > > > blessings,> > > >> > > > Renu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > dear renu ji> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for ur good words> > > > >> > > > > sure 8th H is House of secrecy and 5th is house of romance too ,7th H> > > > > decides how we approach other opposite sex even> > > > >> > > > > so it can show some secrecy ,hidden things ,environmnts etc in matters> > > > > related to 5th and 7th H indications> > > > >> > > > > natural 8th H also deals with gutters ( means cellars ,underground rooms> > > > > ,even where waiste water runns etc ) and scorpion,worms etc as it is> > > > > keeta rasi ,so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or> > > > > even dont mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows> > > > > the willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and> > > > > hidden frm public view )> > > > >> > > > > even i find such persons marriages first happened in secret ( like after> > > > > a run away ,elopements etc ) then may b family announced it public and> > > > > done another public function as marriage> > > > >> > > > > also frm 7th house to 12th H the 6 Houses rules viscible part of zodiac> > > > > and hence the tendencies are more pronounced too> > > > >> > > > > so venus ,7th L ,5th L etc will show that qualities if it is in viscible> > > > > part> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > PS -pls post the charts and let grp discuss abt various tendencies> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunil ji & Neelam ji and the group,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sure, I do understand your busy schedule.> > > > > >> > > > > > I just noticed this combo, common in a few charts and wondered whether> > > > > it had anything to do with their loose characters, since Sun is the 5HL> > > > > and Venus is the 7HL of the Kalapurusha chart, and 8th is the house of> > > > > secrecy.> > > > > >> > > > > > Neelam ji or if anyone else, if interested in this, I will surely post> > > > > a few charts.> > > > > >> > > > > > //so i pray vishnu to giv her more directions and guidance to guide> > > > > us//> > > > > >> > > > > > I too pray for nothing less on good wishes bestowed on Neelam ji by> > > > > Sunil ji....> > > > > >> > > > > > blessings,> > > > > >> > > > > > Renu> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! 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Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Respected Renu ji, After going through your charts, I observe that (1) Venus is first wife, Mercury is 2nd wife (2) Venus is in Rahu /Ketu axis (3) Mercury is with Ketu or Moon (4) !, 5, 9 house are occupied by Rahu or Ketu (5) Jupiter is afflicted. Regards --- On Thu, 6/25/09, renunw <renunw wrote: renunw <renunw Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:36 PM Dear Sunil ji,Thanks for the explanations.//so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or even dont mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows the willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and hidden frm public view )//After reading this.....I should at least post two charts, since both these married men, would go to the extent of sleeping with the maid servants in their houses...1. Natal Chart June 16, 1957Time: 17:54:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00" Colombo, Sri Lanka.This person married a rich girl, love marriage, have two sons from the marriage, but goes out with any woman. He would say he was flying to Singapore on a business trip...but end up in a 5 star hotel in the local town with a woman. In fact he had sold and wasted all his wife's vast property....even the last coconut tree that belonged to her. Never would he hesitate to creep into servant's room in the nights.2. Natal Chart February 26, 1962Time: 15:45:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00" Colombo, Sri LankaThis man..... married, divorced.....did not spare the servants of his mother's house even,....and now married again and settled...hopefully. Don't know much about him now....heard the couple is happy. As a matter of fact this second wife also has Su, Ve combo in her 8th house...may be they get on well for this reason.Hope this would show some light and warning to prospective brides...and of course to prospective grooms too...blessings,Renu , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > dear renu ji> > Thanks for ur good words> > sure 8th H is House of secrecy and 5th is house of romance too ,7th H> decides how we approach other opposite sex even> > so it can show some secrecy ,hidden things ,environmnts etc in matters> related to 5th and 7th H indications> > natural 8th H also deals with gutters ( means cellars ,underground rooms> ,even where waiste water runns etc ) and scorpion,worms etc as it is> keeta rasi ,so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or> even dont mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows> the willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and> hidden frm public view )> > even i find such persons marriages first happened in secret ( like after> a run away ,elopements etc ) then may b family announced it public and> done another public function as marriage> > also frm 7th house to 12th H the 6 Houses rules viscible part of zodiac> and hence the tendencies are more pronounced too> > so venus ,7th L ,5th L etc will show that qualities if it is in viscible> part> > rgrds sunil nair> > PS -pls post the charts and let grp discuss abt various tendencies> > > --- In , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji & Neelam ji and the group,> >> > Sure, I do understand your busy schedule.> >> > I just noticed this combo, common in a few charts and wondered whether> it had anything to do with their loose characters, since Sun is the 5HL> and Venus is the 7HL of the Kalapurusha chart, and 8th is the house of> secrecy.> >> > Neelam ji or if anyone else, if interested in this, I will surely post> a few charts.> >> > //so i pray vishnu to giv her more directions and guidance to guide> us//> >> > I too pray for nothing less on good wishes bestowed on Neelam ji by> Sunil ji....> >> > blessings,> >> > Renu> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Dear Kursija ji, Are you referring to 1962 chart or 1957 chart or both? Why do you say Venus is 1st wife and Mercury the 2nd wife? I don't see Venus in Rahu/Ketu axis in either of the charts.. Am I missing something? Please explain...thanks. blessings, Renu , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Respected Renu ji, > After going through your charts, I observe that > (1) Venus is first wife, Mercury is 2nd wife > (2) Venus is in Rahu /Ketu axis > (3) Mercury is with Ketu or Moon > (4) !, 5, 9 house are occupied by Rahu or Ketu > (5) Jupiter is afflicted. > Regards > > > --- On Thu, 6/25/09, renunw <renunw wrote: > > > renunw <renunw > Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House > > Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:36 PM > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > Thanks for the explanations. > > //so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or even dont mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows the willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and hidden frm public view )// > > After reading this.....I should at least post two charts, since both these married men, would go to the extent of sleeping with the maid servants in their houses... > > 1. Natal Chart > > Date: June 16, 1957 > Time: 17:54:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 " > Colombo, Sri Lanka. > > This person married a rich girl, love marriage, have two sons from the marriage, but goes out with any woman. He would say he was flying to Singapore on a business trip...but end up in a 5 star hotel in the local town with a woman. In fact he had sold and wasted all his wife's vast property....even the last coconut tree that belonged to her. Never would he hesitate to creep into servant's room in the nights. > > > > 2. Natal Chart > > Date: February 26, 1962 > Time: 15:45:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 " > Colombo, Sri Lanka > > This man..... married, divorced.....did not spare the servants of his mother's house even,....and now married again and settled...hopefully. Don't know much about him now....heard the couple is happy. As a matter of fact this second wife also has Su, Ve combo in her 8th house...may be they get on well for this reason. > > Hope this would show some light and warning to prospective brides...and of course to prospective grooms too... > > blessings, > > Renu , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > dear renu ji > > > > Thanks for ur good words > > > > sure 8th H is House of secrecy and 5th is house of romance too ,7th H > > decides how we approach other opposite sex even > > > > so it can show some secrecy ,hidden things ,environmnts etc in matters > > related to 5th and 7th H indications > > > > natural 8th H also deals with gutters ( means cellars ,underground rooms > > ,even where waiste water runns etc ) and scorpion,worms etc as it is > > keeta rasi ,so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or > > even dont mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows > > the willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and > > hidden frm public view ) > > > > even i find such persons marriages first happened in secret ( like after > > a run away ,elopements etc ) then may b family announced it public and > > done another public function as marriage > > > > also frm 7th house to 12th H the 6 Houses rules viscible part of zodiac > > and hence the tendencies are more pronounced too > > > > so venus ,7th L ,5th L etc will show that qualities if it is in viscible > > part > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > PS -pls post the charts and let grp discuss abt various tendencies > > > > > > , " renunw " renunw@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji & Neelam ji and the group, > > > > > > Sure, I do understand your busy schedule. > > > > > > I just noticed this combo, common in a few charts and wondered whether > > it had anything to do with their loose characters, since Sun is the 5HL > > and Venus is the 7HL of the Kalapurusha chart, and 8th is the house of > > secrecy. > > > > > > Neelam ji or if anyone else, if interested in this, I will surely post > > a few charts. > > > > > > //so i pray vishnu to giv her more directions and guidance to guide > > us// > > > > > > I too pray for nothing less on good wishes bestowed on Neelam ji by > > Sunil ji.... > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Dear Sunilji, He has very conservative approach to stock mkts.... No day -trading ,swng trading,futures and options,he never indulge in this... He is probably an ardent follower of Warren Buffett and his style and philosophy.. As far as 5th H,Jupiter affliciton is concerned what type of remedy does one do.. I shall try to pass it when we have a chat (sukh -dukh bhara chats),or else he doesnt heed to advices.. --- On Sun, 28/6/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 9:22 AM dear Deepen Ji Thanks for ur feedbacks on chart what is the nature of his family business he is good in sharemarket and good in judgements of stock ,thanks for this His 5th and 8th ( also lagna Lord ) and 11th H has connections and jup as 9th L aspecting 2nd L too frm 5th House of speculation ,this may b reason what is his nature of investmnt in shares -is it intraday or some long term ?He is good person but some actions may make him to do against so many established norms of society and will back fire on him ,unless he remedy this 5th house afflictions and jup even it may affct marriage ( even getting married and later in married life too ) rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> thanks sunil ji > for your nice inputs..> > by CSW i mean Commercil Sex Worker> > The prime reason visitng CSW it seems is the frustration of not getting a spouse..As he is good and talented ,doing well in his job...He is working with his father in his family business setup...he was very good in studies but couldnt do post graduation due to some other problems...Also is quite good in stock mkts and his judgement in stocks is quite good.> yep you are ture life has been a roller coaster ride,with health problems leading to many other failures in his life..but yet i think jupiter in 5th house,vargottam in navmansa also taking the lagna position has possibly saved him and also made him a good person...> > --- On Sat, 27/6/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House> ancient_indian_ astrology> Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 2:04 AM> > > > > > > > > > Dear deepen ji > > Thanks for this chart > > I dont understand 2 things s in ur mail 1 ) who has recently started visiting to CSW , 2) ut what for someone who hasnt got married or lost his spouse...Even for that person that act classifies into an Adharma...> > what is this CSW > > and r u asking me question on what is dharma or adharma > > I am not capable to giv answer for it ,and based on Kala ,desa ,patra it may vary this much only i can say ,more u can ask to dharma acharyas ,i may try to giv answers based on chart and tru astrology .> > Here 7th Bhava papakarthari and 7th L also papakarthari ( venus between sun and mandi ( gulika ) 7th Has merc ,so the environmnt to change in nature of preferences already can b seen .> > why merc is treated as nampumsaka > > it is considered as a boy ( means who is not mature ,or who dont hav beeja bala ,or even not attained maturity ,so cannot perfeorm sex in proper way ( dont take literal sense ) means some changes in habbits can happen > > if it is sani ( here the other things like exaltations shud considered > > sani is vridha and hence has no nervous power and hence nampuska ,mean too old to perform > > he has sani in 7th House ,also sani may giv attractions towards old ,unclean ,low status relation ships > > 8th House afflicted and 8th and 8th Lords r affcted ,sani is also aspecting to 8th House > > unless properly matched marriage may break or can hav some problems in marriage life ,here u can see sun is debilated and giv his amsa to saptamamsa ( 7th House in Tula ) > > also 8th L mars is also weak in navamsa ,also he is lagna Lord > > again along with dushta parivarthan between sun and mars ,the 5th H and Lord (sun) and 9th House and Lord ( jup) ,all r afflicted > > venus tho aspected by jupiter who himself is doubly afflicted > > jup also 9th L of dharma > > also the the universal atma karaka sun has sani drishi ( it is frm sun where all atma s born ,simple logic i can giv u ,frm food every thing happens ( even body ,beeja --i dont want to explain all process ,it is in ayurvedic texts ) and without sun no food ,so annam is produced with sun energy hence sun controls souls ) > > i am not a expert in jaimini system ,AK means atma karaka ,he is not welcome in 7th House ,as 7th is always sort of astamaya ( setting sign ) ,that is why generaly lagna lord in 7th is unwelcomed > > also natural atmakaraka Sun also gone to 8th House and in parivarthana> > also he is debilated in Navamsa ,a varga which we see matters related to marriage > > so such incidents and later such habbits r possible > > he shud hav to remdy the jupiterian affliction also irrational irratic behaviour also possible ( means a sort of guru changala yoga is there here jup is doubly afflicted and hence worst --it will reduce godly help or devine help ,they may abuse also gurus and such ppl ) > > what is his profession ??they may do well in scientic or technical related professions > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear sunil ji and grp members,> > > > i am giving you details ,who has recently started visiting to CSW ,> > Date :28/11/1979> > Time:4:15 pm> > Place: Mumbai> > > > The logic of mercury that you explained can be the reason as that person is having mercury in Libra(7thh house) ,hemmed between Saturn in VIrgo ( 6th house), Sun in scorpio(8th house)..Also Mercury is the AK of this chart..what can be its implications. ..> > He possibly has an inclination towards older woman (by that i mean older than him) can be inferrd by saturn in virgo???> > Also staying faithful to one's spouse is a Dharma and if one who wavers from it can be classified into Adharma...> > but what for someone who hasnt got married or lost his spouse...Even for that person that act classifies into an Adharma...> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 26/6/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus + Sun in the 8th House> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 26 June, 2009, 12:42 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear neelam Ji ,renu ji and sathesh ji> > > > sathesh ji s chart let me add some thing on neelam ji s valid obsevations> > > > Venus is close to dharma karaka sun ,even tho technicaly it is in 8th H ( out of 2 houses ruled by mars the aries H deals also dharma and better than scorpio House as it is more positiv house by mars ) here we must think natural 5th L of kalapurusha chart is exalted here and venus is also 9th L of dharma of this chart> > > > again we can see jupiterian aspect ( he will discipline such tendencies too ) on all dharma trikona s> > > > also see 5th L and 9th H is connected by saturnian stithi ,also sat in 9th H can giv a sort of sanyasa yoga ( tho not literaly but one of the combination of parivarjya yoga ) also venus combust here ( Jhora is not giving venus combust i dont know why )> > Untitled> > > > sathessh ji s Chart> > > > April 15, 1973> > Time: 19:28:00> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 0 W 22' 00", 51 N 29' 00"> > Hounslow, United Kingdom> > > > Tithi: Sukla Chaturdasi (Ve) (75.28% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > Nakshatra: Hastha (Mo) (91.55% left)> > > > Sunrise: 6:11:55> > Sunset: 19:52:16> > > > > > > > > > > > Now on to charts posted by renu ji> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---> > 1. Natal Chart> > > > June 16, 1957> > Time: 17:54:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > Colombo, Sri Lanka.> > > > > > Married to a rich lady .> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > How this happened ?? is it because 7th L in 8th House with 8th L in 7th House ( so a parivarthana but a dushta parivarhtna yoga which cannot sustain the good effects of this yoga ) and 8th House controls windfall gains ,also 7th L exalted in navamsa ,also dipositer is welplaced and again givn amsa to 2nd House of chart in own House dhanu rasi ??> > > > also 2nd L JUP and 7th L venus aspecting also his 2nd House> > > > I think we need to study more of this kind of married to rich combos more frm practical charts> > > > he is fond of even servant girls> > ------------ --------- --------- -> > > > Sani is placed in lagna with mercurian aspect on lagan and lagna Lord debilated in 9th House ( this influence on Lagna is not good generaly as Lagna is person himself and Lagna karaka sun also gone to 8th House> > > > Lagna also Natural 8th House ,also some sort of female tendencies more in chart ( i dont know going to many ladies can b considered as realy manliness) ,Lagna is a femlae sign ,noon in a female sign ,mars the Lagna lord is again in a female sign> > > > rahu has givn 7th H in rishabaamsa and sani in lagna and merc in 7th House ( all this r planets can mutate effects as all this r Nampusaka planets ,( sat and rahu is purusha napumsaka grahas and merc is being a young student it is considered not mature one hence stree nampoomsaka ,so i think he has a phychological problem than he is realy realy after sex ,i think it is some confidence problem tho he is father of 2 boys> > > > also merc alone in 7th House ,as a planet of immaturity ,and holds 2 signs in KP chart ( kalapurusha ) mithuna ( in rasi swaroopa-streelola surothopachara ,means more fond of Ladies and expert in upachara ( means a sort of play or foreplay --i cannot exactly translate this word in english ) also natural virgo a House of virginity ( kanya or kanyakatwa )so again shows some sort of immaturity .So such person generaly realy seen as failure in married life ( tho medicaly they r fit or found to b fit --i hav many cases in reality those persons has no problem s but they r not mentaly prepared to hav own wife( even their wifes told me they dont hav any problems but this persons found even avoiding them and negeting them this by not coming in house or avoid by saying some excuses ) and they may b seen with other ladies in doubtful situations ) but shows adventrue with other ladies who is old ( old means older than them than realy old ladies ),or even Low> > kind ladies like this ,they like disparity than real status( legaly married and allowed by society ) ladies> > > > i dont know i realy conveyed what i wanted to tell due to some words in sanskrit and malayalam i cannot get right words for it and i dont hav much time also to spend for searching for right words> > > > 2. Natal Chart> > > > February 26, 1962> > Time: 15:45:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > > > Again u can see some similarity repeats in this chart too ( i dont hav time to write everything again )> > > > i request group to take up this kind of charts and further do discussions> > > > there is so many things i know i omitted in charts due to non availability of quality time> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu ji,> > >> > > Thanks for sharing the interesting data. Often seen that dharma lords> > > (1/5/9) are always weak, afflicted and in inimical signs in such cases.> > > Awasthas also are important pointers, alongwith lordships.> > >> > > Sun-Ven in 8H like in Sateesh ji's case, an exalted, vargottam 12Lsun in 8H,> > > whose dispositor mars exalts in 5H of poorv merits which can give spiritual> > > inclinations and practices, and venus is also 9L/2L encouraging him to> > > maintain discipline and code of conduct, which make him rather 'shy away'> > > from closed secretive places and women. Jupiter though debilitated, is lord> > > of kendras in kona and a rajyogkarak. So will uphold dharma, yet may mislead> > > his wisdom at times, like not being able to use discretionary power, or over> > > influenced by some cult, etc. In navamsha, venus is in own house with jup in> > > 9H are good. But I feel 8L debilitated in navamsha does show some weakness> > > due to which he's likely to suffer his 8H actions, even though they be> > > spiritual.> > >> > > Hope members are able to take up discussion on the two cases provided by> > > you.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > > 2009/6/25 renunw renunw@> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > >> > > > Thanks for the explanations.> > > >> > > > //*so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or even dont> > > > mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows the> > > > willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and hidden frm> > > > public view )*//> > > >> > > > After reading this.....I should at least post two charts, since both these> > > > married men, would go to the extent of sleeping with the maid servants in> > > > their houses...> > > >> > > > 1. Natal Chart> > > >> > > > June 16, 1957> > > > Time: 17:54:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > > Colombo, Sri Lanka.> > > >> > > > This person married a rich girl, love marriage, have two sons from the> > > > marriage, but goes out with any woman. He would say he was flying to> > > > Singapore on a business trip...but end up in a 5 star hotel in the local> > > > town with a woman. In fact he had sold and wasted all his wife's vast> > > > property.... even the last coconut tree that belonged to her. Never would he> > > > hesitate to creep into servant's room in the nights.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2. Natal Chart> > > >> > > > February 26, 1962> > > > Time: 15:45:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > >> > > > This man...... married, divorced.... .did not spare the servants of his> > > > mother's house even,....and now married again and settled...hopefully . Don't> > > > know much about him now....heard the couple is happy. As a matter of fact> > > > this second wife also has Su, Ve combo in her 8th house...may be they get on> > > > well for this reason.> > > >> > > > Hope this would show some light and warning to prospective brides...and of> > > > course to prospective grooms too...> > > >> > > > blessings,> > > >> > > > Renu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > dear renu ji> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for ur good words> > > > >> > > > > sure 8th H is House of secrecy and 5th is house of romance too ,7th H> > > > > decides how we approach other opposite sex even> > > > >> > > > > so it can show some secrecy ,hidden things ,environmnts etc in matters> > > > > related to 5th and 7th H indications> > > > >> > > > > natural 8th H also deals with gutters ( means cellars ,underground rooms> > > > > ,even where waiste water runns etc ) and scorpion,worms etc as it is> > > > > keeta rasi ,so even the meeting place also need not b a good place or> > > > > even dont mind what ever is the place for such actions ( it again shows> > > > > the willingness anywhere and everywhere so long as it is secret and> > > > > hidden frm public view )> > > > >> > > > > even i find such persons marriages first happened in secret ( like after> > > > > a run away ,elopements etc ) then may b family announced it public and> > > > > done another public function as marriage> > > > >> > > > > also frm 7th house to 12th H the 6 Houses rules viscible part of zodiac> > > > > and hence the tendencies are more pronounced too> > > > >> > > > > so venus ,7th L ,5th L etc will show that qualities if it is in viscible> > > > > part> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > PS -pls post the charts and let grp discuss abt various tendencies> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunil ji & Neelam ji and the group,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sure, I do understand your busy schedule.> > > > > >> > > > > > I just noticed this combo, common in a few charts and wondered whether> > > > > it had anything to do with their loose characters, since Sun is the 5HL> > > > > and Venus is the 7HL of the Kalapurusha chart, and 8th is the house of> > > > > secrecy.> > > > > >> > > > > > Neelam ji or if anyone else, if interested in this, I will surely post> > > > > a few charts.> > > > > >> > > > > > //so i pray vishnu to giv her more directions and guidance to guide> > > > > us//> > > > > >> > > > > > I too pray for nothing less on good wishes bestowed on Neelam ji by> > > > > Sunil ji....> > > > > >> > > > > > blessings,> > > > > >> > > > > > Renu> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! 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