Fw: PROOFS THAT nks were of unequal space.....

June 27, 2009

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> --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ ...> wrote:

>

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ ...>

> Fw: PROOFS THAT nks were of unequal space.....

> To:

> Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:14 PM

>

< Not only Krittika, many other nakshatras contain more than one star. But the

numbers vary.???Shatapatha Brahmana 2/1/2/1-4??? does not say nakshatras occupy

varying spaces. In space, some regions contain more stars than others. If some

nakshatra contains more stars, it does not prove that it contains more degrees

in space too.

>

> Atharva Veda and Vedanga Jyotisha give complete list of nakshatras, without

mentiong the enequal division of zodiac. on what ground these fellows are

supposing unequal divisiomn? >

> ?

> Ok then read the attachement with 6 proofs......

> ?

> DEAR PUBLIC PLEASE READ THIS DOCUMENT WHICH IS ABOUT the unequal divisions of

NKS....

> ?

> IF AFTER READING THOSE PROOFS JHAAA CAN NOT CONVINCED THEN I CAN NOT DO ANY

OTHER THING, BUT I KNOW WHOLE PUBLIC WILL GET CONVINCED ATLEAST,, JHAAA CAN NOT

AS IF HE WILL ACCEPT THEN HE WILL LOOSE ALL THE TALKS

>

> ?

> PS:- i AM FORWARDING THIS MAIL TO SOME IDS IF ANYBODY WANTS THEN HE MAY

FORWARD TO VA AS NARAYAN IYER AND PVR HAS DELETED THE ID AS I WAS WINNING THE

DISCUSSION SO BECAUSE OF JEALOUSY THEY DELETED MY ID.......... ...AND ALL OF YOU

WOUD HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT I DIDNT ABUSE ANYBODY BUT JEALOUS GUTTER NARAYAN IYER

AND PVR DELETED MY ID

> ?

>

> ?

> vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

> <<< I HAVE GIVEN PROOF FROM VEDAS BUT JHAA IS MAKING MOCKERY OF VEDAS.IT IS

VERY SAID. >>>

>

> Do not make false statements in my name. I never mocked Vedas in my life. You

are lying. you never gave any proof at all, only made some unsupported claims.

>

> Not only Krittika, many other nakshatras contain more than one star. But the

numbers vary.???Shatapatha Brahmana 2/1/2/1-4??? does not say nakshatras occupy

varying spaces. In space, some regions contain more stars than others. If some

nakshatra contains more stars, it does not prove that it contains more degrees

in space too.

>

> Atharva Veda and Vedanga Jyotisha give complete list of nakshatras, without

mentiong the enequal division of zodiac. on what ground these fellows are

supposing unequal divisiomn?

>

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June 27, 2009

Dear Vinay,

If I remember correctly I saw a mail recently where you clarified that the

divisions have been made equal (ie.with a 13 degrees and 20 minute longitudinal

spread for each of the nakshtras) and this equal division is used in

astrology. It is undestandable that it is so irrespective of the fact

that astronomically the inter-nakshatra distances do vary among different pairs

of adjacent Nakshatras.

Best wishes,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

--- On Sat, 6/27/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

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space.....

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Saturday, June 27, 2009 3:48:49 AM

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<thakurjagmohansing h wrote:

>

> --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ ...> wrote:

>

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ ...>

> Fw: PROOFS THAT nks were of unequal space.....

> To:

> Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:14 PM

>

< Not only Krittika, many other nakshatras contain more than one star. But the

numbers vary.???Shatapatha Brahmana 2/1/2/1-4??? does not say nakshatras occupy

varying spaces. In space, some regions contain more stars than others. If some

nakshatra contains more stars, it does not prove that it contains more degrees

in space too.

>

> Atharva Veda and Vedanga Jyotisha give complete list of nakshatras, without

mentiong the enequal division of zodiac. on what ground these fellows are

supposing unequal divisiomn? >

> ?

> Ok then read the attachement with 6 proofs......

> ?

> DEAR PUBLIC PLEASE READ THIS DOCUMENT WHICH IS ABOUT the unequal divisions of

NKS....

> ?

> IF AFTER READING THOSE PROOFS JHAAA CAN NOT CONVINCED THEN I CAN NOT DO ANY

OTHER THING, BUT I KNOW WHOLE PUBLIC WILL GET CONVINCED ATLEAST,, JHAAA CAN NOT

AS IF HE WILL ACCEPT THEN HE WILL LOOSE ALL THE TALKS

>

> ?

> PS:- i AM FORWARDING THIS MAIL TO SOME IDS IF ANYBODY WANTS THEN HE MAY

FORWARD TO VA AS NARAYAN IYER AND PVR HAS DELETED THE ID AS I WAS WINNING THE

DISCUSSION SO BECAUSE OF JEALOUSY THEY DELETED MY ID.......... ...AND ALL OF YOU

WOUD HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT I DIDNT ABUSE ANYBODY BUT JEALOUS GUTTER NARAYAN IYER

AND PVR DELETED MY ID

> ?

>

> ?

> vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

> <<< I HAVE GIVEN PROOF FROM VEDAS BUT JHAA IS MAKING MOCKERY OF VEDAS.IT IS

VERY SAID. >>>

>

> Do not make false statements in my name. I never mocked Vedas in my life. You

are lying. you never gave any proof at all, only made some unsupported claims.

>

> Not only Krittika, many other nakshatras contain more than one star. But the

numbers vary.???Shatapatha Brahmana 2/1/2/1-4??? does not say nakshatras occupy

varying spaces. In space, some regions contain more stars than others. If some

nakshatra contains more stars, it does not prove that it contains more degrees

in space too.

>

> Atharva Veda and Vedanga Jyotisha give complete list of nakshatras, without

mentiong the enequal division of zodiac. on what ground these fellows are

supposing unequal divisiomn?

>

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June 27, 2009

Sunil Da,

Nakshatra has nothing to do with stars. Identifying Nakshatras with stars is a

modern myth created by materialists who wanted to reduce everything to physical

level.

Nakshatra is merely a geometrical division of the zodiac. It is a coincidence

that there are stars in those divisions. Those stars do not produce astrological

effects at all. Had it been so, Nakshatras containing two stars would have been

50 times feebler than Nakshatras like Shatabhisha which contain 100 stars.

But some stars are astrologically significant, like Brahma, Agastya, Saptarshis,

etc, which are away from the zodiac. They are not physical stars, but stars of

Bhuvaloka and are emancipated rishis. But they are not called Nakshatras.

Etymologically, Nakshatra means " one which reaches/approaches " or

" one which causes to approach " . Nakshatras cause us to come to this

world, as well as to go out of it.

-VJ

========================== ===

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Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya

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Saturday, June 27, 2009 5:23:23 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Fw: PROOFS THAT nks were of unequal

space.....

Dear Vinay,

If I remember correctly I saw a mail recently where you clarified that the

divisions have been made equal (ie.with a 13 degrees and 20 minute longitudinal

spread for each of the nakshtras) and this equal division is used in astrology.

It is undestandable that it is so irrespective of the fact that astronomically

the inter-nakshatra distances do vary among different pairs of adjacent

Nakshatras.

Best wishes,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

--- On Sat, 6/27/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Fw: PROOFS THAT nks were of unequal

space.....

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Saturday, June 27, 2009 3:48:49 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Fw: PROOFS THAT nks were of unequal space.....

File is uploaded in file section named as below:-

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<thakurjagmohansing h wrote:

>

> --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ ...> wrote:

>

> Anup Khanna <khannaanup32@ ...>

> Fw: PROOFS THAT nks were of unequal space.....

> To:

> Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:14 PM

>

< Not only Krittika, many other nakshatras contain more than one star. But the

numbers vary.???Shatapatha Brahmana 2/1/2/1-4??? does not say nakshatras occupy

varying spaces. In space, some regions contain more stars than others. If some

nakshatra contains more stars, it does not prove that it contains more degrees

in space too.

>

> Atharva Veda and Vedanga Jyotisha give complete list of nakshatras, without

mentiong the enequal division of zodiac. on what ground these fellows are

supposing unequal divisiomn? >

> ?

> Ok then read the attachement with 6 proofs......

> ?

> DEAR PUBLIC PLEASE READ THIS DOCUMENT WHICH IS ABOUT the unequal divisions of

NKS....

> ?

> IF AFTER READING THOSE PROOFS JHAAA CAN NOT CONVINCED THEN I CAN NOT DO ANY

OTHER THING, BUT I KNOW WHOLE PUBLIC WILL GET CONVINCED ATLEAST,, JHAAA CAN NOT

AS IF HE WILL ACCEPT THEN HE WILL LOOSE ALL THE TALKS

>

> ?

> PS:- i AM FORWARDING THIS MAIL TO SOME IDS IF ANYBODY WANTS THEN HE MAY

FORWARD TO VA AS NARAYAN IYER AND PVR HAS DELETED THE ID AS I WAS WINNING THE

DISCUSSION SO BECAUSE OF JEALOUSY THEY DELETED MY ID.......... ...AND ALL OF YOU

WOUD HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT I DIDNT ABUSE ANYBODY BUT JEALOUS GUTTER NARAYAN IYER

AND PVR DELETED MY ID

> ?

>

> ?

> vedic astrology, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

>

> <<< I HAVE GIVEN PROOF FROM VEDAS BUT JHAA IS MAKING MOCKERY OF VEDAS.IT IS

VERY SAID. >>>

>

> Do not make false statements in my name. I never mocked Vedas in my life. You

are lying. you never gave any proof at all, only made some unsupported claims.

>

> Not only Krittika, many other nakshatras contain more than one star. But the

numbers vary.???Shatapatha Brahmana 2/1/2/1-4??? does not say nakshatras occupy

varying spaces. In space, some regions contain more stars than others. If some

nakshatra contains more stars, it does not prove that it contains more degrees

in space too.

>

> Atharva Veda and Vedanga Jyotisha give complete list of nakshatras, without

mentiong the enequal division of zodiac. on what ground these fellows are

supposing unequal divisiomn?

>

Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click

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June 27, 2009

Dear Vinay,

Yes, truly speaking the twenty seven Nakshatra divisions (ie. the twenty seven

man-made divisions) of the ecliptic were made by the earlist Hindu astronomers

for monitoring the movement of the planets. Otherwise how could they have

identified the location of the grahas at any time? This is also the reason for

choosing the constellations in the ecliptic in preference to the constellations

outside the ecliptic. The Rashi divisions were also made by the ancient Hindu

astronomers with the fixed Nakshatras (these are however the physical entities

in the Drikpaksha astronomy) within them as the markers monitoring the movement

of the grahas. I shall keep any discussion on the the difference between the

Drikpaksha and Saurapaksha systems presently outside the scope of the present

topic as I really do not have the required knowledge of the Saurapaksha view.

The ancient Hindu astronomers took the Geocentric view (or the Pratyaksha view

ie. what meets the

eye), when they took the Sun as the graha moving round the Earth though they

also had the Heliocentric idea (the Paroksha knowledge), that in reality the

Earth moves round the Sun. In the case of the movement of the Moon the

Pratyaksha view was okay.

I came across another definition of Nakshatra. Na is for the Moon and Kshetra is

for house. so Naksetra , which later on became Nakshatra, imples the Lunar

house or mansion, where the Moon spends a day. They had to keep the Abhiji out

as it moved away from the ecliptic band (with + / - 9 degree

bandwidth). Further the 27 days of the sidereal Lunar month got well-fitted in

it such that the Moon could be allotted one day in one Nkashatra-division.

However in one synodic month the Moon covers one-twelvth of the ecliptic and

that could be the basis of the twelve divisions of the the ecliptic.The Rig Veda

does say " Chandrah Masakrt " and I am sure you will have the relevant reference.

This means the Moon is the maker of the month (twelve months). We also know how

the intercalary (or embolismic) months have to be accommodated in the five-year

yuga periods (about the nineteen-year cycle you will know better). Further the

Jupiter also moves

one-twelvth of the ecliptic in one Solar year.

Though the Nakshatra and the Rashi are ancient Hindu astronomical concepts the

astrology was developed based on that. Astrology is also a very old concept.

Manu Smriti mentions it and the there is mention of its use during

the Mahabharata war five thousand years ago. I think you prepared a detailed

note on astrology in the Mahabharata and I look forward to seeing that. In the

west also the prophet Moses mentioned in the Genesis (Pentateuch) in 1500 BCE

about the signs of the heaven. Hindu astrology used the rashis and the

Nakshatras so much that now most people think that the Nakshatra-divisions and

the rashi-divisions were made by the Hindu astrologers. What an irony? You know

that the western astrology does not involve the nakshatras and that is why many

lovers of western system of astrology want us to get rid of the Nakshatras so we

abandon the Hindu astrology.

The mail has already become too long and I should close it now.

Best wishes,

Sunil K. Bhattacharjyya

--- On Sat, 6/27/09, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

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