How to decide whether it is true enlightenment or untrue ?

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There is a possibility of an untrue enlightenment. The ego can play

the last trick: the ego can start pretending 'I am enlightened. ' And

it is so subtle that it is almost impossible for others to detect it,

because you can talk like enlightened people very easily. Scriptures

are available, you can cram them; you can repeat the Upanishads, the

Bible, the Koran. You can analyse in such a subtle way, with such

philosophical acumen, that it can be easily proved to others that you

have attained. You can live a life according to people's expectations

of how an enlightened person should live. If they expect that you

should live naked, you can live naked. If they expect that you should

kiss lepers, you can kiss lepers. If they expect that you should serve

the poor and the ill, you can serve the poor and the ill. It is easy

to manage.

That is the last trick that the ego can play upon oneself. One has to

be very very aware at that moment, otherwise one slips back to the

original place, one again falls to the same ground from where one was

trying and trying hard to rise.

How to decide whether it is true enlightenment or untrue? The only

decisive factor is: the absence of I. In true enlightenment, the idea

of I simply disappears, it is not found. There is nobody to claim 'I

am enlightened' , there is simply nobody to claim anything. It is a

pure nothingness, full of light, full of joy -- very spacious, it can

contain the whole sky, but the 'I' is found nowhere, not even a trace

of it. Then it is satbodhi, then it is true enlightenment.

Osho

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NO CHANCE TO DECIDE SUNIL JI, INCLUDING OSHO.

gopi. , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > There is a possibility of an untrue enlightenment. The ego can play> the last trick: the ego can start pretending 'I am enlightened. ' And> it is so subtle that it is almost impossible for others to detect it,> because you can talk like enlightened people very easily. Scriptures> are available, you can cram them; you can repeat the Upanishads, the> Bible, the Koran. You can analyse in such a subtle way, with such> philosophical acumen, that it can be easily proved to others that you> have attained. You can live a life according to people's expectations> of how an enlightened person should live. If they expect that you> should live naked, you can live naked. If they expect that you should> kiss lepers, you can kiss lepers. If they expect that you should serve> the poor and the ill, you can serve the poor and the ill. It is easy> to manage.> > That is the last trick that the ego can play upon oneself. One has to> be very very aware at that moment, otherwise one slips back to the> original place, one again falls to the same ground from where one was> trying and trying hard to rise.> > How to decide whether it is true enlightenment or untrue? The only> decisive factor is: the absence of I. In true enlightenment, the idea> of I simply disappears, it is not found. There is nobody to claim 'I> am enlightened' , there is simply nobody to claim anything. It is a> pure nothingness, full of light, full of joy -- very spacious, it can> contain the whole sky, but the 'I' is found nowhere, not even a trace> of it. Then it is satbodhi, then it is true enlightenment.> > Osho>