Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Very clear explanation. You know, thinking over the correspondence that has been going on regarding this topic, I wonder what is the significance and purpose of matching horoscopes at the time of settling the marriage if this were to be the case? their horoscopes were matched before marriage. Infact, in my own family, I find where horoscopes matched 26 -27 points or more, the marriages have ended in divorces or the houses are like our parliament house. Some of us who never matched our horoscopes before marriages and some of us including an uncle of mine who is no more , the horoscopes match only 11 - 13 out of 36. NO one went deeper into matching than a very cursory glance with guna milan, over lapping of dasha sandhis, kuja dosha etc but they have survived. Where there is a good score of matching, the marriages are on fire. That being the case, why the system of mathcing horoscopes on the basis of points at all? Our family astrologer for once says, to keep aside the number system and match the horoscopes on quality basis and the placement of planets. I think that is more logical ......what do our learned members think? renuji???????? Regards, Anita --- On Tue, 30/6/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Simple but practcal astrology Tuesday, 30 June, 2009, 5:56 AM Dear Anita ji , // BUt I beg to differ. They are at logger heads 24X7X365// Ha Ha. That was a good one, but though I wanted to say it, I could not since as a astrologer I have to be somewhat positive, and leave some space for same. If You notice actually I have given only one day in a month of peace to that couple, for I purposely left the transit of Moon in the 2nd house and the 6th house in my explanation, or else it would have looked too negative a scenario. In that case 2 1/2 + 2 1/2 days would be taken up more for discord and disagreements between the couple and would make the total come up to 29 days. Too many planets in the dusthanas would mean nore name, fame for the native in his circles and good money too if more planets in the 6th. But this would also create marital discord and lot of hard work and struggle in the natives Life, mor enemies and more of Big Mans Bad habits due to according Life style. The native will be even inimical to himself at times, careless about his health, may at times not behave responsibly too. He will be ready to confront and fight when he is disagreeable or when the opposite person does not meet in conformity with his views. Satisfaction from Life may be a elusive factor for this native. He may have a dynamite type of behaviour at times. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@.. .> wrote: > > > dear Bhaskar ji, > Thanks for your detailed response. I do appreciate that very much. BUt I beg to differ. They are at logger heads 24X7X365. The lady has 5 planets in dusthanas in her navamsha. The husband has 4 exalted planets in the rashi chart , 3 of which are debilitated in the navamsha. I think they make a pretty pair. The husband is a cousin of mine and is rather epicurean in tastes.. " When eating I want to eat only chicken, when drinking I want to drink only beer " type. She used to behave in a very bitter way with us all until one day I asked her why? I told her what ever problems she has with her husband, we are not responsible for it, in fact we admire her for putting up with her husband who is a very difficult person to say the least, and by behaving bitterly and offensively with us, she is losing our sympathies, I told her. She is better behaved with us now. > while we are on the topic what do you think will be the general temperament of a person who has more planets in dusthanas. I have a horoscope which has 6 planets in a dusthana but the person is well off, doing well in career etc. I am asking about mental set up. > Regs, > Anita > > --- On Mon, 29/6/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Simple but practcal astrology > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 29 June, 2009, 10:19 AM > > > Dear Anita ji, > > One should try not to marry a person who has many planets placed in the > 2nd, because these same planets which look good for wealth in the > partner, may prove to be cause of destruction for the native in time to > come, being 8th house for the spouse. Additionally a strong malefic in > the 6th also brings out only sad tunes in the marriage for the 6th is > the house opposed to the house of marriage being 12th from it, and in > this case you mentioned ,the Moon specifically becomes a > badhaksthanadhipati for the native. > > At least 12 days of every month the Moon is going to create great > problem in relationships for the native because of 4 planets placed in > the 2nd house, and whenever the Moon transits te constellations of these > planets 3 x 4 and also whenever these 4 planets transit in the > constellation of the Moon which again is 4 x 3, its going to create > problem. So for 24 days totally every month they will be at swords and > daggers with each other. > > But this is Life. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ ..> > wrote: > > > > DEar Bhaskarji, > > Well, new ways of looking at charts is something I find fascinating. > Look at this chart which belongs to a lady. She has scorpio lagna with > guru, shukra, mandi in lagna and kuja, budha, shani and ravi in the 2nd > house which is dhanu and chandra in aries in 6ht house. Ketu is in 5th > and rahu in 11th. This case is exactly as you said. Husband is nowhere > financially. Her brothers , a couple of whom are bachelors ( prolonged > bachelors at that) are totally supporting her financially. She claims > her husband is so difficult and uncaring , even if one searched , they > willnot find a man like her husband. Exageration obviously but that is > the extent of her husband's contribution to her house hold finances. > > Regards, > > Anita > > > > --- On Sun, 28/6/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Simple but practcal astrology > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 6:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > These are general dictums and not to applied to every such combination > > in every horoscope. > > > > The 7th Lord in the 8th whether it is good or bad, would also be > > dependent on which other house the 7th Lord owns. In any case it is > > good for the spouse of the native. Because this shows wealth to the > > spouse. What a paradox because many planets in the 2nd in the natives > > chart, shows that many times obstructions arriving in Life of spouse. > > Wealth to the native, but poison to the partner. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@ > ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > I am appending below, a para from the mail posted by Manoj ji a few > > days back which I was trying to learn with respect to some of the > > horoscopes I have. > > > > > > Yes. The 7th lord in the 6th is ominous not only because it is the > 6th > > house but also because the lord has gone 12 houses away. 6th house is > a > > house of divorce because it facilitates the annulment of marriage. Of > > course there are always exceptions but 6th lord and 7th lord combo is > > never a pleasant one. If you are able to get your hands on the > > Dr.Charak's Astrology magazine archives (they are bound volumes) I > > remember reading articles on the 7th house and he discusses this 7th > and > > 6th combo in detail. Many times Dasha/Antar of 7th/6th can lead to > > separation. 2 of my friends got divoced (in India) in their 7th > lord/6th > > antar period. > > > > > > > > > In general if any lord is gone " dusthana number of houses away " into > > another " dusthana " house, it is " double trouble " . > > > > > > I feel it is not always true or it might manifest in ways which are > > difficult to predict. Example while 7th lord in 6th can be bad, how > can > > 7th lord in 8th when it will be in the 2nd house be bad? > > > Similarly, if 5th in 10th, i.e 6 houses away how can it be bad? > > > Can someone please explain the logic behind this? > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 28/6/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Simple but practcal > astrology > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 4:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Thanks for the educativ posts > > > > > > even i was thinking to write abt Badaka concepts and badaka stana s > > what KP krishnamoorthi ,parasara and kerala astrology teaches us > > > > > > may write abt it ,when quality time is availble for me ,(also wants > > to write abt venus and sun conjunctions as it is also common in charts > > but affects livs ,and how can we see it tru astrology in diffrnt > > individual charts ) > > > > > > i thought when once such a mail on badaka happened in grp ,i > > thought the grp would hav taken up this discussions > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, I will just stretch this a bit, but not in details, > > for > > > > lack of time. Aries - The 11th Lord is known as the house of > gains. > > > > But he also kills, in this case Saturn. Venus also acquires maraka > > > > powers in this case Lord of 2 and 7. Note that the 11th is a > > > > badhaksthana for this Sign. Taurus - Jupiter, Moon and Venus can > > kill. > > > > Note that Jupiter is not only the 8th Lord but also the Lord of > the > > > > 11th. Moon is the 3rd Lord and Venus is the Lagna Lord apart from > > owing > > > > the 6th. Gemini - Mars,Jupiter and the Sun are evil. Mars is again > > the > > > > 11th lord and the 6th lord. Jupiter is the natural maraka Lord of > > the > > > > 7th. Sun is the Lord of the 3rd. Cancer - Venus and Mercury are > > evil. > > > > Venus is again the 11th Lord. Mercury is the 3rd Lord. Leo - > Mercury > > > > can kill. Note that mercury is both the 2nd and the 11th lord. > Virgo > > - > > > > Venus, Moon and Jupiter can kill. Moon is again the 11th Lord. > > Jupiter > > > > is the 7th Lord. Venus is the 2nd Lord. Libra - Jupiter , Venus > and > > > > Mars can kill. Jupiter is the 3rd Lord. venus the 8th lord. Mars > the > > > > Lord of the 2nd and the 7th. Note - I have taken only 7 signs for > > > > study as not into research work, and not getting paid for this. > The > > > > points which I wish to stress home is this - In above study > observe > > > > that what we call the 11th house of " Labhasthana " is mostly also > > very > > > > instrumental as the " Killer Planet or House " The Labha would be > > > > available only in the youth age of the native whenever dashas of > the > > > > 11th Lord are activated, but when this same planet comes in the > > figues > > > > at his later stage when he should die, this planet would be > > instrumental > > > > as the killer planet. Also note that the 2nd and the 7th lord also > > > > figure in the above study. The 2nd is for family happiness, or > > wealth > > > > creations - Dhan sthana, while the 7th allows marriage to the > native > > in > > > > his youth again, but these same planets will be the cause of his > > death > > > > when he should die in old age. Notice that the 8th lord seldom > > occurs > > > > above, whomw e calll as the House of Death - the poor owner of the > > Death > > > > house seldom figures actively, but acts passively when given > powers > > by > > > > those same planets which give us wealth, happiness, marriage and > > gains > > > > throughout our Life. Otherwise too - Simple astrology says - > Whenver > > > > the Lagna is activated strongly - It affects the second house and > > its > > > > significations, Problems related to family and wealth creation may > > occur > > > > to the native. The family cannot expand. Problems in earning money > > would > > > > be there. Why ? Because the Lagna is 12th to the 2nd house, and > > causes > > > > expenditure of the 2nd house, or Moksha - Death - Passing away of > > the > > > > significations of the 2nd (Not of the native please) . Whenever > the > > > > 2nd is activated strongly -, will cause problems in short > journeys, > > to > > > > the native. Whenever the 3rd is activated strongly - Breaks ine > > > > ducation, Loosing rights of Land or property, Changing of > residence > > or > > > > shifting, loss of happiness of/from mother. Whenevr the 4th is > > > > activated strongly - Abortions, loss of happiness from children, > > break > > > > in Love affairs, Loss in speculations. Whenever the 5th is > activated > > > > strongly - Loss oj job, employment. Loss of money, Business > Partner > > > > stabbing in bock etc. Whenever the 6th is activated strongly - > Loss > > of > > > > happienss in marriage, Loss in partnerships. Breaking of > > partnerships, > > > > marriages, The tenant leaving the house etc. Whever the 7th is > > > > activated strongly - Problems in receipt of Insurance money, > > Gratuity, > > > > legacy, Bonus etc. Whenever the 8th is activatd strongly - Higher > > > > education brought to a stop, Problems in long journeys undertaken, > > Loss > > > > of prestige, opposite of spiritualism etc. Whenever the 9th is > > > > activated strongly - Change in employment or business, > Obstructions > > in > > > > promotion etc. Whenever the 10th is activated strongly - Negation > of > > > > the positives of the 1tth. Whenever the 11th is activated strongly > - > > > > Accidents to mother. Health of married partner. Whenever the 12th > is > > > > activated strongly . Obstructions to gains, weakness in body and > > > > strength to fight disease and ill health, loss of duty and > > > > responsibilities, Laziness, selfishness. This List can be expanded > > to > > > > one sheet for each house - for instance though the 9th when > activatd > > > > will give one higher education , Religious terrth yatra, Long > > voyages > > > > including overseas, Success in court cases, etc. but apart from > the > > > > negatives mentioned in the above List, what else it will show ? It > > will > > > > aslo show about the marriage of the younger brother or sister of > the > > > > native. It will show ill health to the natives mother. It wil show > > about > > > > the health of the first child. It will show about short journeys > > made by > > > > the partner in marriage. It will show about fathers health. It > will > > show > > > > about profits or gains available to the elder brother or friends. > It > > > > will also show repairs needed to the roof of the house. (When the > > 7th > > > > is activated strongly , though it will bring in marriage to the > > native, > > > > it will also show the bad condition of the bathroom ,Toilet and > > > > drainage pipes which may start leaking). Thus there is nothing > like > > a > > > > good or bad Planet or a Dasha Malefic or Benefic. We use these > terms > > > > just to lay emphasis on what the Dasha may reveal in a nutshell, > but > > the > > > > actual results which one may face can be unpredictable and may > touch > > > > hundreds of areas in his Life. I have spent an hour writing the > > above > > > > mail. hope it is educative and makes sense to few. regards, > bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear chakraborty ji > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for ur mail > > > > > > > > > > abt maraka and dhana yogas sure dhana itself maraka at times > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but sure in astrology like bhaskar ji explained planets has > > diffrnt > > > > > traits and missions at diffrnt periods in life and they giv all > > > > results > > > > > depending on situations . > > > > > > > > > > so 2nd house ,Lords ,assosiated planets are marakas in dasa and > > can b > > > > > dangerous depends on time ( sure i dont know ur dasa pattern ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > CHAKRABORTYP2@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil-ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know whether Dhana yoga is operative..except that > > > > > > if I consider my background, I could be rated as slightly > above > > > > > > average as far as earning part goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > But 2nd house Maraka aspect goes, it is operative. 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