Secret Mantras-Prasna Marga -Power of Intutitiom

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I am going to provide in the following paragraph vide a translated shloka of

Prasna MArga From B.V.Ramans work

 

It says an astrologer though he is well versed in astrology and antronomy must

also be initaiated into a secret mantra by preceptor,then only he is believed to

know or understand Horoscopy

Same view is shared by Varahamihira where he says intuition should be developed.

 

We cannot quantify intuition power.So when a student astrolger becomes an

astrologer in real and finds that his predictions are becoming more and more

true,what does he think the reason for his success in predictions ---Knowledge

of astrology or Intuition?There is a fine line between both

 

How many of you here have felt an increase in intuition power?if so,how many

years of study or practice is required to develop intuition power?

 

The final important question would be,In Modern yoga,do we find techsavvy

astrologers follow severe austerities or secrete mantra repetition?

 

What are those secret mantras?Gayathri Mantra is one as per my knowledge.But i

dont think it will be feasible to chant gayathri mantra lakh times

 

will mantras like

 

OM NAMAH SHIVAY

OM HARI OM

RAMA JAYAM

RAMA

 

serve the purpose.

 

 

 

THE REFERENCE MATERIAL

 

 

 

 

 

As per prasna Marga,

 

Stanza 18. — He who has acquired a thorough knowledge of the different Horas,

who is

an adept in the five siddhantas, who has inferential ability and who is

initiated into a secret

mantra by a preceptor, can alone know horoscopy.

 

NOTES

Qualifications of an astrologer have been laid down in stanzas 15 to 18. In this

connection, reference may also be made to similar qualifications laid down by

Varaha-Mihira in

his Brihat Samhita. One, who wishes to be a correct predictor, should not only

be an adept in

Astrology, Astronomy, Vedas and Mantra Sastras, but also must be a man of

character, religious,

righteous and must have obtained siddhi of certain secret mantras which would

confer on the

astrologer the uncanny power of correct predictions.

 

Varahamihira goes to the extent of suggesting that the astrologer should be of

noble birth,

and agreeable appearance. Humility must characterise his behaviour. His personal

habits must be

disciplined and above opprobium. He should be well versed in ritual and

expiatory ceremonies.

He should be gifted to resolve independently any tough problems. Disciplined

life, faith in God,

a helpful nature and scrupulous adherence to certain types of austerity would

enable him to develop his power of intuition considerably and this would be a

great asset to anyone who

aspired to be a successful astrologer

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Dear VinothKumar ji In astrology i hav seen so many respectable and kNowledgeble persons ( even was can call them walking encyclopedias in astrology ) But those who devlped some knack of predictions let us call it is intution ,we can see they predict more accurately than this so called who knows more and better knowledge abt books and texts sure too much technicality and too much dependence mathematical aspects wont help in this kind astrological predictions as fate and destiny is also part of free will and karma of nativ which can vary frm time to time .( even that is why we use prashna also ) so our clarity of mind and its receptibility and openness to accept any thing ( i mean like a 4 windows in a house allows more fresh air ) and will see right thing is the clue and key to right prediction All mantras actualy whispered in ear by gurus while intitiating ,so it is secret mantras ,it may b any common mantras or Guru's own inititated mantra or even the one u got frm some Yogi or snayasis or ur kula guru or even any one competent in mantrasastra and gone tru real tapasya Other wise u can even chant gayatri mantra which u got when u were got sacred thread ( uapanayanm ) .Ur blf in guru and mantra will help u ,as" mananath trayete ithi mantra "In kerala it is part of any begining in education in any aspects even if it is ayudha vidhya too ( martial arts ) Once there was a prashna on success of a famous politition ( i was present there ) and suppose let us assume the chart indicates some what good period still ( we dont know the correct chart of opposite parties leader who is contesting against this leader ,so cannot compare ) ,prashna is showing mixed results ,suddenly a lizard fall on wooden plank which we use for cowri prashna ,which indication an astrologer can take ??here is the success/ability /predictiv power of astrologer is realy tested ( u shud think that all persons present there also knows astrology well ) what indication he can take that astrologer took the fall of house lizard which happened which on his head first and then on wooden rasi chakra and said he will fail in elections ,all newpapers ,TV and even poll statistics and even exit polls where in favr of this politition but final result was this politition failed ( but also predicted some elevation also based on the direction of Lizard climbed up and the dasa and prashna was not bad ) so tho he failed he got rajya sabha seat and become an MP and got a birth in central cabinet so what make this astrologer to decide to go for Nimitta ??is it not intuition i know another story -one astrologer was taking a prashna on a kidnapped child a bird entered into room and fan was running in ceiling and bird got hit by ceiling fan and fall on astrologer table here what u think ??which prediction he can go for ,even that astrologer terrorised and was stuck for some time 'he examined chart again and prashna again and declared release of boy and actualy a gun battle between police and kidnappers happened and boy got injured and father got the boy in injured condition and hospitalised so u can guess how this intutions and indications happening and the momentary discsion making happening on the part of astrologer ,it is as if some adrisya sakti is also forcing or asking him to take that discision or predictions --is it not what we call intution ??there is 100s of such real stories with many astrologers and even in history a peice of story frm Tippu sultan who attacked kerala ( they hav palace astrologers too and were blvers in astrology also,BV raman 's some forefathers were also palace astrologers of tippu sultan palace but all others later strted working in army too ) --He approached one very famous kerala astrologer ( Machattu elayathu - I think 4th generation sisya of author of prashna Maarga ) of those days with a parrot tied to a post and asked to predict its future and longitivity ,The astrologer predicted good life for the bird .Tippu sultan suddenly took out his sword and tried to kill the bird .but bird some how manged to escpaed the sword and by mistake the sword cut the silk rope which is tied to its feet and bird flew away .So tippu sultan said sorry to the astrologer and was trying to add some thing ,so the astrologer told him ,i know why u came here .u wanted to know abt ur future and progress in war .and he predicted bad for sultan and declining yrs and it is wat happened in reality too .( tippu was ditched by own ppl who bribed by brit - i dont know /remebr full history ) Even crowning of one baby king in uterus happened in kerala with astrologers advice --as britishers bring a new law to add any kingdoms which has no heirs will b added to their powerhold ( remebr Rani jhansi has to fight aginst it those days ) ,but british queen accepted the letter of astrologer as last word ( which states it is male baby in womb of queen ) on this and allowed travncore royal family to rajyabhisheka of a new king who is still in mothers womb .That king is later known as Garbha shriman shri swathi thirunal maharaja who was a gr8 contributor to carnatic music even .rgrds sunil nair , "vinothkumarmd" <vinothkumarmd wrote:>> I am going to provide in the following paragraph vide a translated shloka of Prasna MArga From B.V.Ramans work> > It says an astrologer though he is well versed in astrology and antronomy must also be initaiated into a secret mantra by preceptor,then only he is believed to know or understand Horoscopy> Same view is shared by Varahamihira where he says intuition should be developed.> > We cannot quantify intuition power.So when a student astrolger becomes an astrologer in real and finds that his predictions are becoming more and more true,what does he think the reason for his success in predictions ---Knowledge of astrology or Intuition?There is a fine line between both> > How many of you here have felt an increase in intuition power?if so,how many years of study or practice is required to develop intuition power?> > The final important question would be,In Modern yoga,do we find techsavvy astrologers follow severe austerities or secrete mantra repetition?> > What are those secret mantras?Gayathri Mantra is one as per my knowledge.But i dont think it will be feasible to chant gayathri mantra lakh times> > will mantras like> > OM NAMAH SHIVAY> OM HARI OM> RAMA JAYAM> RAMA> > serve the purpose.> > > > THE REFERENCE MATERIAL> > > > > > As per prasna Marga,> > Stanza 18. — He who has acquired a thorough knowledge of the different Horas, who is> an adept in the five siddhantas, who has inferential ability and who is initiated into a secret> mantra by a preceptor, can alone know horoscopy.> > NOTES> Qualifications of an astrologer have been laid down in stanzas 15 to 18. In this> connection, reference may also be made to similar qualifications laid down by Varaha-Mihira in> his Brihat Samhita. One, who wishes to be a correct predictor, should not only be an adept in> Astrology, Astronomy, Vedas and Mantra Sastras, but also must be a man of character, religious,> righteous and must have obtained siddhi of certain secret mantras which would confer on the> astrologer the uncanny power of correct predictions.> > Varahamihira goes to the extent of suggesting that the astrologer should be of noble birth,> and agreeable appearance. Humility must characterise his behaviour. His personal habits must be> disciplined and above opprobium. He should be well versed in ritual and expiatory ceremonies.> He should be gifted to resolve independently any tough problems. Disciplined life, faith in God,> a helpful nature and scrupulous adherence to certain types of austerity would enable him to develop his power of intuition considerably and this would be a great asset to anyone who> aspired to be a successful astrologer>

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Dear Vinothkumar Ji,

 

For some people the line between astrology and intuition is not fine but very thick. So it really depends on the person. In my humble opinion in addittion to all the things that have been stated (secret mantra initiation, chanting Gayathri, Guru's and ancestors grace etc), meditation helps a great deal in improving calmness of mind and also helps harness the intuitive capabilities. Many times the intuition is there, but our minds are so full of generated thoughts that it is not STILL enough to listen to intuition. Also ultimately if we are humble and pray to the divine to work through us to give the querent the best answer for their Highest Good, Good will always come from it.

 

Regards,

 

-Manoj

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Dear Mr. Vinoth ji,

 

To me there are NO secret mantras..... any mantra ...or self made or

created ordinary words when said with " Bhava " is potent enough. There

is NO categorization of secret mantras either in Vedas or Upanishads.

The reason why people love to hear the voice of devotional Ms. M.S.

Subbalaxmi or melodious songs of Ms Lata Mangeshkar..... it is due to

their " Bhava " i.e. they have put entire soul in their singing.

 

Lately, I happened to hear on FM - Pop Song - Hare Rama, Hare Krishna -

a song sung by Asha Bhosle and some Phirangi (Western) singer with lots

of western music in background...etc.... To me it sounded as an

offence....for Indian tradition of taking Guru's or God's name with

respect not in dance or beer bars.

 

If one were to apply his assimilated logics - intuition or not, still

things would be fair predictions. Intuition only adds power to the

prediction.

 

I know western people strongly believe that Intuition can be developed

sitting in a Laboratory.

 

For Indians - intuition - is a subject which is too generic where

everyone joins discussion & our hindu scriptures are replete with

literature on this subject. Let us move away from them and discuss

what is known to few and enrich the subject with each one's

contribution.

 

Rider (for those interested) : A Human being is a constituent of 5

basic elements. Fire, Water, Air, Ether, Land. We all know it from kid

days. There are total 16 elements for a complete " purusha " of which

these 5 are generally known. What are the balance 11 elements ??

Search entire Google and literature.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear sreeram My guess would be =11 senses which includes 5 special sense organs,touch etcsreeram srinivas <

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Thanks for the deatialed and apt replyVinoth

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Namaste Mr. Manoj Chandran ji,

//For some people the line between astrology and intuition is not fine but very thick.//

Enjoyed this THICK statement.....

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

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Rider Answer ( may be part or incorrect ) - False ego, intelligence, 3 modes of material nature, Super soul, soul, 5 senses - oops that makes it 12...... Chiranjiv Mehta

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Om

 

 

 

Dear friends,

 

This is very important to keep in mind that astrology is vedang.

 

It is imperative to study astrology through a guru of parampara

 

You are accepted in .

 

Three type of mantra practice is essential before one becomes adept in

astrology.

 

1.Mantra that's give power to understand scripture.

 

2. Mantra that protects the astrologer from dealing cases of people

afflicted with various evil forces.

 

3.Remember , if astrologer gives remedies, he is interfering with karmas of

jatak.He is required to follow

 

Discipline provided by his jyotish guru. Jyotish guru gives mantra based

on chart of student , so that student

 

Soul is embeded with knowledge imbibed by guru.

 

Hope this clarifies basics of learning astrology in meaningful way. Intution

faculty is complementary to judgement

 

But is not a substitude to hard working that is called for study of

astrology.

 

With best wishes.

 

 

 

R.C.Srivastava[Astrologer]

 

http://www.cosmograce.com

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Namesta Guru Srivastava g, Very well said Srivastava g , Plz sir keep posting mail ur knowlege is useful for all of us . Mohit --- On Thu, 7/2/09, R C Srivastava <swami.rcs wrote:R C Srivastava <swami.rcs

Re:Secret Mantras-Prasna Marga -Power of Intutitiom Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 12:42 PM

 

 

 

Om

 

Dear friends,

 

This is very important to keep in mind that astrology is vedang.

 

It is imperative to study astrology through a guru of parampara

 

You are accepted in .

 

Three type of mantra practice is essential before one becomes adept in

astrology.

 

1.Mantra that's give power to understand scripture.

 

2. Mantra that protects the astrologer from dealing cases of people

afflicted with various evil forces.

 

3.Remember , if astrologer gives remedies, he is interfering with karmas of

jatak.He is required to follow

 

Discipline provided by his jyotish guru. Jyotish guru gives mantra based

on chart of student , so that student

 

Soul is embeded with knowledge imbibed by guru.

 

Hope this clarifies basics of learning astrology in meaningful way. Intution

faculty is complementary to judgement

 

But is not a substitude to hard working that is called for study of

astrology.

 

With best wishes.

 

R.C.Srivastava[ Astrologer]

 

http://www.cosmogra ce.com