Guest guest Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Pranams,Mr.Manoj Chandran ji,As of now, I see 61 headers in above caption.It is a Good show of strength long list of direct and indirect participants.I presume the quiz is tough as ever before.It just confuses me actually how many have given their actual entry to the quiz.Y/S-Dhananjayan, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear Manoj g , It is we have to thank u n all the Gurujans who r so coopeartive n so knowlege full we as student get so benefit by ur share of knowlege , Thanks u so so so much , Mohit --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Re: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Saturday, July 4, 2009, 7:36 PM Dear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PM Dear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion? How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Yes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit --- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AM Dear Manoj ji, //He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle.// This sentence and " will he gain financially. ... " ... " the custody of the kids.... " ... . .........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infer some sympathetic attitude from you towards him... Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it. I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'. blessings, Renu ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Renu Ji, > > Some how I missed this comment of yours. > > " I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. " > > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other. > > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the " innocent " party. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > renunw <renunw > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse...once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret > > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th. > > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's, > > if other conditions also prevail.. > > Of course Manoj ji may confirm. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's > > > earlier discussion below: > > > > > > // " if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus as lagna > > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not > > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl > > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any > > > number of relationships in his/her life..// > > > > > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the > > > house of secrets... > > > > > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!! > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>, > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not > > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our > > > group is very active.. > > > > > > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA > > > > > > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody > > > battle. > > > > > > > > Interesting questions for the group are: > > > > > > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? > > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife > > > (soon to be ex-wife)? > > > > > > > > A bonus question is : > > > > > > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in > > > 2006)? > > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. > > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. > > > > > > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also > > > welcome. > > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I > > > can. > > > > > > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New > > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th). > > > > > > > > If possible please send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ > > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear all, while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsible for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon? Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to " Hanky Panky " right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week --- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Re: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PM Dear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PM Dear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion? How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Yes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit --- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AM Dear Manoj ji, //He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle.// This sentence and " will he gain financially. ... " ... " the custody of the kids.... " ... . ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infer some sympathetic attitude from you towards him... Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it. I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'. blessings, Renu ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Renu Ji, > > Some how I missed this comment of yours. > > " I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. " > > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other. > > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the " innocent " party. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > renunw <renunw > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse...once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret > > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th. > > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's, > > if other conditions also prevail.. > > Of course Manoj ji may confirm. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's > > > earlier discussion below: > > > > > > // " if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus as lagna > > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not > > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl > > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any > > > number of relationships in his/her life..// > > > > > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the > > > house of secrets... > > > > > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!! > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>, > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not > > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our > > > group is very active.. > > > > > > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA > > > > > > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody > > > battle. > > > > > > > > Interesting questions for the group are: > > > > > > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? > > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife > > > (soon to be ex-wife)? > > > > > > > > A bonus question is : > > > > > > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in > > > 2006)? > > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. > > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. > > > > > > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also > > > welcome. > > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I > > > can. > > > > > > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New > > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th). > > > > > > > > If possible please send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ > > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Hello Maam, Well i too have an data who is lies on everything , he himself says tht he lies 100 times in a day , he had lied to his wife n everybody n has been jailed once too, i have his data 4.02.1977 16.30 Surat , As u see in 2nd house moon in his own house wit sat retro 8th lord n mars in 6th lord in 8th n 11th n sun who is in 3rd lord in 8th house too , Thanks Mohit--- On Sun, 7/5/09, ash.rsh55 <ash.rsh55 wrote:ash.rsh55 <ash.rsh55Re: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeTo: Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 6:15 AM Dear all, while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon? Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week --- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PM Dear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PM Dear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion? How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > ancient_indian_ astrology Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Yes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit --- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AM Dear Manoj ji, //He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle.// This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... . ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infer some sympathetic attitude from you towards him... Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it. I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'. blessings, Renu ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Renu Ji, > > Some how I missed this comment of yours. > > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. " > > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other. > > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > renunw <renunw > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse...once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret > > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th. > > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's, > > if other conditions also prevail.. > > Of course Manoj ji may confirm. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's > > > earlier discussion below: > > > > > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus as lagna > > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not > > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl > > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any > > > number of relationships in his/her life..// > > > > > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the > > > house of secrets... > > > > > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!! > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>, > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not > > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our > > > group is very active.. > > > > > > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA > > > > > > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody > > > battle. > > > > > > > > Interesting questions for the group are: > > > > > > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? > > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife > > > (soon to be ex-wife)? > > > > > > > > A bonus question is : > > > > > > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in > > > 2006)? > > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. > > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. > > > > > > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also > > > welcome. > > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I > > > can. > > > > > > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New > > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th). > > > > > > > > If possible please send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ > > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear Dhananjaya Ji, Thank you for your participation. Yes I am very thrilled about the wonderful participation so far. Just before the end of the quiz I will post the names of participants who have sent me thier predictions. This way if mail problems had been there (or I had missed some thing) they can resend. Regards, -Manoj "abhanaya" <abhanaya Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 1:21:10 PMRe: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Pranams,Mr.Manoj Chandran ji,--- On Thu, 2//Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? //Dasa lord Saturn is yogakaarak, Anthradasa lord is in 6/8 axis to dasa lord. This period would make him to incur karryahaani, embrace failures and may incur penalty payments.//Is he going to win custody of children or at least 50/50 with his wife (soon to be ex-wife)? //Saturn is putra sthanathipathy, it is very strongly posited in the 5th house, the native in the last lap of Saturn Dasa.Now gochara Saturn going to transit 8th house from the 5th house.He shall not get the custody of the baby. The baby may also suffer or prone to suffer from fits /respiratory diseases / heart ailments.//A bonus question is: What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in 2006)?She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. //10th lord from the 7th house is Capricorn, its lord Saturn is in Mithun navamsa, this suggests to me that the native may be student prior to marriage.Y/s-Dhananjayan,/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome"ancient indian_astrology" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Thursday, 2 July, 2009, 4:48 AM Dear All, Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our group is very active. Here is the data of a friend of mine. Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle. Interesting questions for the group are: Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife (soon to be ex-wife)? A bonus question is : What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in 2006)? She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also welcome. Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I can. I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th). If possible please send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree). Regards, -Manoj Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55" <ash.rsh55 Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>Subject: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Mohitji,2nd house is badly afflicted is it not? What is his financial situation? Does he cheat on his wife too? I mean marriage wise. What is his attitude towards life and relationships? Can you write to me in detail?Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33 wrote: Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33Re: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 4:07 PM Hello Maam, Well i too have an data who is lies on everything , he himself says tht he lies 100 times in a day , he had lied to his wife n everybody n has been jailed once too, i have his data 4.02.1977 16.30 Surat , As u see in 2nd house moon in his own house wit sat retro 8th lord n mars in 6th lord in 8th n 11th n sun who is in 3rd lord in 8th house too , Thanks Mohit--- On Sun, 7/5/09, ash.rsh55 <ash.rsh55 > wrote: ash.rsh55 <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySunday, July 5, 2009, 6:15 AM Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji,Thanks for your additional comments and clarification.Regards,-ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj,Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrology@ .. comFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji,Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it.In the meantime some things to keep in mind are:5th lord seing the 8th in this case..If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases?Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse?Thanks for sharing your thoughts.Regards,-ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrology@ .. comFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse...once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later....but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Hi, My dear Manoj ji, it is me , Anita. I think I forgot to sign the mail. Apologies to all. HIs mercury is debilitated. Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later....but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Hi,Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at the bottom. Apologies.His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retro guru, retro shani might have on his psyche.regards,Anita--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>Subject: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw.>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Anita Ji, So sorry about that !!! My memory is so terrible it is not even funny. Even if I have to buy four items form the grocery store I need to take a written list !!! Regards, -Manoj Anita R <ash.rsh55 Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:18:11 PMRe: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Hi,Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at the bottom. Apologies.His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retro guru, retro shani might have on his psyche.regards,Anita--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw.>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > --- In ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, Do not worry. If You ask me what I ate today morning for breakfast it will take me some time to recall and then tell you. I also normally write all items, on a slip of paper, at times when I am requested to get something from the bazaar. regards/Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Anita Ji, > > So sorry about that !!! My memory is so terrible it is not even funny. Even if I have to buy four items form the grocery store I need to take a written list !!! > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Anita R ash.rsh55 > > Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:18:11 PM > Re: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > > Hi, > Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at the bottom. Apologies. > His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retro guru, retro shani might have on his psyche. > regards, > Anita > > --- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM > > > > > >Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), > > > >For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). > > > >-Manoj > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > " ash.rsh55 " ash.rsh55 > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PM > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > > > >Dear all, > >while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. > >Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon? > >Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to " Hanky Panky " right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week > > > >--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PM > > > >Dear Mohit Ji, > > > >Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. > > > >Regards, > > > >-Manoj > > > >Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Saturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AM > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > >Dear Manoj, > > > > Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit > > > >--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PM > > > >Dear Mohit Ji, > > > >Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. > > > >In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: > > > >5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. > > > >If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion? > >How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? > > > >Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? > > > >Thanks for sharing your thoughts. > > > >Regards, > > > >-Manoj > > > >Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > >Yes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit > > > >--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > > >renunw renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AM > > > >Dear Manoj ji, > > > >//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody > > > >battle.// > > > >This sentence and " will he gain financially. ... " ... " the custody of the kids.... " ... . > > > >.........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infer > >some sympathetic attitude from you towards him... > > > >Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it. > > > >I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'. > > > >blessings, > > > >Renu > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Dear Renu Ji, > > > >> > > > >> Some how I missed this comment of yours. > > > >> > > > >> " I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. " > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other. > > > >> > > > >> Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the " innocent " party. > > > >> > > > >> Regards, > > > >> > > > >> > >-Manoj > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > >> renunw renunw@ > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology > > > >> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM > > > >> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dear Neelam ji, > > > >> > > > >> Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > > >> > > > >> So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting. > > > >> > > > >> blessings, > > > >> > > > >> Renu > > > >> > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta > ><neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Dear Renu ji, > > > >> > > > > >> > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret > > > >> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th. > > > >> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's, > > > >> > if other conditions also prevail.. > > > >> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm. > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards > > > >> > Neelam > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's > > > >> > > earlier discussion below: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > // " if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus as > >lagna > > > >> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not > > > >> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl > > > >> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any > > > >> > > number of relationships in his/her life..// > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the > > > >> > > house of secrets... > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > blessings, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Renu > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>, > > > >> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Dear All, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not > > > >> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our > > > >> > > group is very active.. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > > > >> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody > > > >> > > battle. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? > > > >> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife > > > >> > > (soon to be > >ex-wife)? > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > A bonus question is : > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in > > > >> > > 2006)? > > > >> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. > > > >> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also > > > >> > > welcome. > > > >> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I > > > >> > > can. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New > > > >> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th). > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > If possible please > >send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ > > > >> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree). > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Regards, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -Manoj > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Mars aspect on Moon makes already fast planet even faster. This makes the Mann ashant - restless. It can trouble the person and also make him/her take impatient decisions. Weather the decisions are hanky- panky is also dependant on other benefic/malefic aspects, conjunction & placement. I have mars aspecting moon in natal chart buy no hanky-panky till now. And looks unlikely in future.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Mon, 6/7/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55Re: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 9:48 AM Hi,Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at the bottom. Apologies.His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retro guru, retro shani might have on his psyche.regards,Anita--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. comSaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrology@ .. comFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) . co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong......let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw.>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > --- In ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I always forget even after writing ! But blame it on vivid imagination and deb mercury.Mercury in own Nakshatra.. Which raises a question. If planet is in own nakshatra, does it help or debilitation wipes out everything. Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Mon, 6/7/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 10:44 AM Dear Manoj ji,Do not worry. If You ask me what I ate today morning for breakfast itwill take me some time to recall and then tell you. I also normallywrite all items, on a slip of paper, at times when I am requested to getsomething from the bazaar.regards/Bhaskar..ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ....> wrote:>> Dear Anita Ji,>> So sorry about that !!! My memory is so terrible it is not even funny.Even if I have to buy four items form the grocery store I need to take awritten list !!!>> Regards,>> -Manoj>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Anita R ash.rsh55@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:18:11 PM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Childcustody Outcome>>>>>> Hi,> Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at thebottom. Apologies.> His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retroguru, retro shani might have on his psyche.> regards,> Anita>> --- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:>>> >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz:Divorce/Child custody Outcome> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM> >> >> >Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign yourname),> >> >For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are veryimportant. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcoursewithout ascendant it is tough).> >> >-Manoj> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> "ash.rsh55 " ash.rsh55 >> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PM> >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz:Divorce/Child custody Outcome> >> >> >> >Dear all,> >while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairsetc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a longtime. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it iscertainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is notripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj jiannounces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with.> >Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarilyresponsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impactof benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?> >Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn indhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4thhouse aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the dateof birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. Andofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 -as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just lastweek> >> >--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> >> >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz:Divorce/Child custody Outcome> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PM> >> >Dear Mohit Ji,> >> >Thanks for your additional comments and clarification.> >> >Regards,> >> >-Manoj> >> >Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Saturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AM> >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz:Divorce/Child custody Outcome> >> >Dear Manoj,> >> > Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is alwaysundesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lordsitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel thtand seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write inthe last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house theni feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but inthis case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & ifeel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks ofexclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teachingsometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so muchMohit> >> >--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> >> > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz:Divorce/Child custody Outcome> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PM> >> >Dear Mohit Ji,> >> >Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had theexact thought process and we will have to wait for her response.However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed wecan come back and analyze it.> >> >In the meantime some things to keep in mind are:> >> >5th lord seing the 8th in this case..> >> >If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be yourconclusion?> >How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases?> >> >Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa isalso 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse?> >> >Thanks for sharing your thoughts.> >> >Regards,> >> >-Manoj> >> >Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Childcustody Outcome> >> >Yes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who isalso 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u seefrom 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic persontoo, Thanks Mohit> >> >--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> >> >renunw renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Childcustody Outcome> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AM> >> >Dear Manoj ji,> >> >//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> >> >battle.//> >> >This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody ofthe kids...."... .> >> >.........all the above made me think that the native is the innocentparty according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail Icould infer> >some sympathetic attitude from you towards him...> >> >Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio fromAries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.> >> >I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'..> >> >blessings,> >> >Renu> >> >ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> >>> >> >> Dear Renu Ji,> >> >>> >> >> Some how I missed this comment of yours.> >> >>> >> >> "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocentparty. "> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? Iwas trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way orthe other.> >> >>> >> >> Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend toclaim that the native is the "innocent" party.> >> >>> >> >> Regards,> >> >>> >> >>> >-Manoj> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __> >> >> renunw renunw@> >> >> ancient_indian_ astrology> >> >> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> >> >> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Childcustody Outcome> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Dear Neelam ji,> >> >>> >> >> Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji'squestions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makesus assume that the native is the innocent party.> >> >>> >> >> So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun comboin the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> >> >>> >> >> blessings,> >> >>> >> >> Renu> >> >>> >> >> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta> ><neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Renu ji,> >> >> >> >> >> > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always showssecret> >> >> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th..> >> >> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather thannative's,> >> >> > if other conditions also prevail..> >> >> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> >> >> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> > Neelam> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> >> >> > >> >> >> > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fitsto group's> >> >> > > earlier discussion below:> >> >> > >> >> >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus as> >lagna> >> >> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) Ishould not> >> >> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter orany other girl> >> >> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person willhave any> >> >> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> >> >> > >> >> >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed inScorpio, the> >> >> > > house of secrets...> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> >> >> > >> >> >> > > blessings,> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Renu> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> >> >> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > > > Dear All,> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. Ihave not> >> >> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting ithere since our> >> >> > > group is very active..> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> >> >> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and childcustody> >> >> > > battle.> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> >> >> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 withhis wife> >> >> > > (soon to be> >ex-wife)?> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > A bonus question is :> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriagehappened in> >> >> > > 2006)?> >> >> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession afterMarriage.> >> >> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting andintruiguing.> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of thisNative is also> >> >> > > welcome.> >> >> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I willconfirm if I> >> >> > > can.> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00Pm (New> >> >> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > If possible please> >send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> >> >> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderatorsagree).> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > Regards,> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > -Manoj> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 My mercury is debilitated. But I rarely speak incorrect facts or speak to malign somebody. It takes more than weak mercury to........ Weak mercury may also mean not getting the message across acuurately.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 10:48 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later....but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Manojji, Naam smaran can be audible and otherwise. In case you are too emberessed to sing outside your home ( or maybe even bathroom ) then you can " sing along ' with any other Bhajan group .... anonymous and singing out loud.Singing out aloud will help, at least yourownself even if you become cacaphonic ( like me ). Thanks & Regards Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re:Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 1:05 AM Dear Deepen Ji, Thank you for your observations. Like you I also have had good luck with this principle. In my own case, I have my D-9 lagna lord Moon, in the 5th house (debilitated though). I am a very talented singer but I never had a teacher, learnt on my own. However I only sing Bhajans and usually only when I am alone (may be due to being in Scorpio that is a secretive sign). Not that I am afraid to sing in front of others (I do sing many times) but others approval has never been important for me and bhakti for me is a very personal relationship with God, not meant for demonstration. Regards, -Manoj deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009 10:27:07 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome yes manojji since the wife's details not availbale itried to spot the wife's talents fixing 7th H of her husband..there might be many glitches in this as i am assuming this to be his first relationship( as far as committment goes). I have always found this trines in navmansha=tallents and abilities thing working and quite applicable.This concept of 5th house which can be developed without a teacher and of 9th H can be developed to teacher was new for me and thanks for that ,i will keep that in mind... always i have found that guys having sun in trines in strength are good Shivbhakts,and also good readers at the same time... So when i spot a good & voracious reader around me ,i tell him he is a Shivbhakt and most of the time it is confirmed... PS:I am getting his ascendant LIBRA at 21degrees. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Debilitation alone is not about deprivation, it is about challenges one needs to face in the areas governed by the debilitated planet. Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, 2nd and 7th lord in 12th untainted---can lead to divorce.Mars is also the lord of upapaada.in 12th is seperation since 12th house/lord is both bed comfirts an d seperation. Mars in 12th in navamsa as well. Rahu aspd by sat in 7th and 7th lord in 12th. 6th lord of court cases retro in 10th is also exalted in Rasi and in 8th with Rahu forming guruchandalyoga. uppada with sun and venus aspd by retro jup. 7th lord in 3rd in mutual asp with 6th lord of court cases in navamsa also aspd by MARS from 12th!!hence seperation. native may gain from the court case moneterily.2nd half of july and 1st week of aug is a period of gain. custody of children could be 50-50.or in his favour. he must be in a good position in job since 10th lord in 9th in a RAJAYOGA and jup exaltd in 10th and also hapens 2b the lagna lord of D10. His financial position must be good. regards, gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear All,> > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our group is very active.> > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle. > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife (soon to be ex-wife)?> > A bonus question is :> > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in 2006)? > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also welcome.> Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I can.> > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > If possible please send replies to my email address chandran_manoj and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > Regards,> > -Manoj> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Chiranjiv Ji, I was the lead singer for the local Bhajan groups for several years. What I meant was after that one hour/ two hour Bhajan session, I have not interest in singing. Even that I dont really crave to sing, if my turn comes, I sing, if not no problem. My brother on the other hand has the same talent but is a semi-professional play back singer and does a lot of concerts. So my talent is not a secret, I have no problem displaying it, it just is not that big a deal for me. I am more in to introspection and meditation. Regards, -Manoj chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 1:45:41 AMRe: Re:Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Manojji, Naam smaran can be audible and otherwise. In case you are too emberessed to sing outside your home ( or maybe even bathroom ) then you can " sing along ' with any other Bhajan group .... anonymous and singing out loud.Singing out aloud will help, at least yourownself even if you become cacaphonic ( like me ). Thanks & Regards Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 5 July, 2009, 1:05 AM Dear Deepen Ji, Thank you for your observations.. Like you I also have had good luck with this principle. In my own case, I have my D-9 lagna lord Moon, in the 5th house (debilitated though). I am a very talented singer but I never had a teacher, learnt on my own. However I only sing Bhajans and usually only when I am alone (may be due to being in Scorpio that is a secretive sign). Not that I am afraid to sing in front of others (I do sing many times) but others approval has never been important for me and bhakti for me is a very personal relationship with God, not meant for demonstration. Regards, -Manoj deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009 10:27:07 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome yes manojji since the wife's details not availbale itried to spot the wife's talents fixing 7th H of her husband..there might be many glitches in this as i am assuming this to be his first relationship( as far as committment goes). I have always found this trines in navmansha=tallents and abilities thing working and quite applicable.This concept of 5th house which can be developed without a teacher and of 9th H can be developed to teacher was new for me and thanks for that ,i will keep that in mind... always i have found that guys having sun in trines in strength are good Shivbhakts,and also good readers at the same time.... So when i spot a good & voracious reader around me ,i tell him he is a Shivbhakt and most of the time it is confirmed... PS:I am getting his ascendant LIBRA at 21degrees. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Gopi Ji, Thank you for your comments and analysis. Regards, -Manoj gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 5:05:40 AM Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear Manoj ji, 2nd and 7th lord in 12th untainted--- can lead to divorce.Mars is also the lord of upapaada.in 12th is seperation since 12th house/lord is both bed comfirts an d seperation. Mars in 12th in navamsa as well. Rahu aspd by sat in 7th and 7th lord in 12th. 6th lord of court cases retro in 10th is also exalted in Rasi and in 8th with Rahu forming guruchandalyoga. uppada with sun and venus aspd by retro jup. 7th lord in 3rd in mutual asp with 6th lord of court cases in navamsa also aspd by MARS from 12th!!hence seperation. native may gain from the court case moneterily.2nd half of july and 1st week of aug is a period of gain. custody of children could be 50-50.or in his favour. he must be in a good position in job since 10th lord in 9th in a RAJAYOGA and jup exaltd in 10th and also hapens 2b the lagna lord of D10. His financial position must be good. regards, gopi. ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our group is very active.> > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle. > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife (soon to be ex-wife)?> > A bonus question is :> > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in 2006)? > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also welcome.> Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I can.> > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > If possible please send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ ... and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > Regards,> > -Manoj> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 MANOJJI NAMASKAR, hmm seems interesting i also have moon in 5th house in sagitarius....i have a good crystal clear voice and sing along in trains,buses or when i am alone...but i thought moon gives prolific writing skill,i guess neelamji would be having an exalted moon in trines in d-9 ....i also have occasional bouts on making poetry and writing some prose....i also have vargottam jupiter in lagna sthanam ,how will that augur in realtion to this tallent?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Mr.Mehta,Thank you for your response. Yes, the person does take hasty and reckless decisions often. DOes not appear to have any control over his speech and actions many a time. Moreover, the mind does not think straight at all. He always prefers devious methods of functioning. Even in speech, the answers are never straight. If he says 10%, 90% is left to your imagination. Even then one can't be sure of what he is saying. After all imaginations do have a tendency of running wild......BUt thanks for your clarification. Especially about mars aspect on moon. Regards,Anita--- On Mon, 6/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjivRe: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 8:22 AM Mars aspect on Moon makes already fast planet even faster. This makes the Mann ashant - restless. It can trouble the person and also make him/her take impatient decisions. Weather the decisions are hanky- panky is also dependant on other benefic/malefic aspects, conjunction & placement. I have mars aspecting moon in natal chart buy no hanky-panky till now. And looks unlikely in future.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Mon, 6/7/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 6 July, 2009, 9:48 AM Hi,Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at the bottom. Apologies.His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retro guru, retro shani might have on his psyche.regards,Anita--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. . comSaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrology@ .. . comFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L... Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -Manoj Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) . . co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.......let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw.>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > --- In ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Mr Mehta, I understand that debilitated mercury- one of its manifestations- makes a person incapable of putting his thoughts across in a way that the other person understands. They have trouble communicating their deepest thoughts, agonies, ecstacies with others. Is this the case with you.? Thoughts and tongue will be at war with each other.Regards,Anita --- On Mon, 6/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjivRe: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 8:37 AM My mercury is debilitated. But I rarely speak incorrect facts or speak to malign somebody. It takes more than weak mercury to........ Weak mercury may also mean not getting the message across acuurately.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 5 July, 2009, 10:48 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). -Manoj "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome Dear all,while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PMDear Mohit Ji, Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeDear Manoj, Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcomeancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PMDear Mohit Ji, Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Regards, -ManojMohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeYes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit--- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody OutcomeTo: ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AMDear Manoj ji,//He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custodybattle.//This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infersome sympathetic attitude from you towards him...Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.I may be wrong.....let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Renu Ji,> > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent" party.> > Regards,> >-Manoj> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> renunw <renunw> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > if other conditions also prevail..> > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > >> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji,> > >> > > My answer will be later....but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > earlier discussion below:> > >> > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus aslagna> > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > number of relationships in his/her life..//> > >> > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > house of secrets...> > >> > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > >>> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > group is very active..> > > >> > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > >> > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > battle.> > > >> > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > >> > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > (soon to beex-wife)?> > > >> > > > A bonus question is :> > > >> > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > 2006)?> > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > >> > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > welcome.> > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > can.> > > >> > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New> > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th).> > > >> > > > If possible pleasesend replies to my email address chandran_manoj@> > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree).> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > -Manoj> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 An observation I have noticed that if Mercury as 3rd lord from lagna is debilitated in Rasi and navamsa,the native will marry a person whose father has died 3 rd house is father-in law house MErcury's debilitation in Rasi is not relevant as Navamsa placement can better it.If Debilitated in navamsa also the person will have difficulties in conveying his ideasto others ,bit of anxiety casuing inclarity in language he speaks though he may be well proficient in the languages concerned Vinoth , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Dear Mr.Mehta, > Thank you for your response. Yes, the person does take hasty and reckless decisions often. DOes not appear to have any control over his speech and actions many a time. Moreover, the mind does not think straight at all. He always prefers devious methods of functioning. Even in speech, the answers are never straight. If he says 10%, 90% is left to your imagination. Even then one can't be sure of what he is saying. After all imaginations do have a tendency of running wild...... > BUt thanks for your clarification. Especially about mars aspect on moon. > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Mon, 6/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > > chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv > Re: Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > Monday, 6 July, 2009, 8:22 AM > > > > > > > Mars aspect on Moon makes already fast planet even faster. > This makes the Mann ashant - restless. It can trouble the person and also make him/her take impatient decisions. Weather the decisions are hanky- panky is also dependant on other benefic/malefic aspects, conjunction & placement. > I have mars aspecting moon in natal chart buy no hanky-panky till now. And looks unlikely in future. > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > --- On Mon, 6/7/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55 > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 6 July, 2009, 9:48 AM > > Hi, > Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at the bottom. Apologies. > His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retro guru, retro shani might have on his psyche. > regards, > Anita > > --- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name), > > For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart (ofcourse without ascendant it is tough). > > -Manoj > > > > > > " ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > Dear all, > while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. > Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon? > Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to " Hanky Panky " right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week > > --- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > ancient_indian_ astrology > Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PM > > Dear Mohit Ji, > > Thanks for your additional comments and clarification. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . . com > Saturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > Dear Manoj, > > Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht & but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit > > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . . com > Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PM > > Dear Mohit Ji, > > Those are interesting comments. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it. > > In the meantime some things to keep in mind are: > > 5th lord seing the 8th in this case.. > > If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion? > How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases? > > Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse? > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > Yes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit > > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) . co.uk> wrote: > > renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > ancient_indian_ astrology > Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AM > > Dear Manoj ji, > > //He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody > > battle.// > > This sentence and " will he gain financially. ... " ... " the custody of the kids.... " ... . > > ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infer > some sympathetic attitude from you towards him... > > Astrologically, when Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it. > > I may be wrong......let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renu Ji, > > > > > > Some how I missed this comment of yours. > > > > > > " I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. " > > > > > > > > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other. > > > > > > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the " innocent " party. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > renunw <renunw@> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > > > > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting. > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > > > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret > > > > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th. > > > > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's, > > > > if other conditions also prevail.. > > > > Of course Manoj ji may confirm. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > > > > > > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's > > > > > earlier discussion below: > > > > > > > > > > // " if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus as > lagna > > > > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not > > > > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl > > > > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any > > > > > number of relationships in his/her life..// > > > > > > > > > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the > > > > > house of secrets... > > > > > > > > > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!! > > > > > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>, > > > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not > > > > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our > > > > > group is very active.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > > > > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA > > > > > > > > > > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody > > > > > battle. > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting questions for the group are: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? > > > > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife > > > > > (soon to be > ex-wife)? > > > > > > > > > > > > A bonus question is : > > > > > > > > > > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in > > > > > 2006)? > > > > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. > > > > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also > > > > > welcome. > > > > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I > > > > > can. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New > > > > > Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > If possible please > send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ > > > > > and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Mr. Vinoth ji, //the native will marry a person whose father has died // Can you post separately the birth data from where you have made the observation ?? How is Mercury related to karaka of F-I-L ? Agree 3H is house of Father-In_Law. I know one case, where the strong 3H & 3HL person married to a female whose father has expired in her childhood. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, wife's profession is a ticklish issue specially these days and your coments about it make it tricky as well. Any way let me try.I am taking 10th house from 7th for the purpose.Sat the lord of that house is well placed in M.T in 11th and aspd by none-she must be quite hard headed and laborious in her profession. sat in the nakshatra of jup and jup in turn aspg 10th house along with8th and 12th houses as well. sat in the amsa of mer and jup with Rahu in D9----can be in teaching profession either before or after marriage. sat dasa and Rahu bhukti was operating at the time of marriage She could have changed the job during mer's pratyantar dasa in the above periods.Hence all the planets discussed above are coming into operaton along with guruchandal yoga in 8th house of amsa!!!jup and sat in 6-8 positions in Rasi-----definitely intriguing. Regards, gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > Thank you for your comments and analysis. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > gopi_b927 gopi_b927 > > Monday, July 6, 2009 5:05:40 AM > Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > 2nd and 7th lord in 12th untainted--- can lead to divorce. > Mars is also the lord of upapaada.in 12th is seperation since 12th house/lord > is both bed comfirts an d seperation. > Mars in 12th in navamsa as well. > Rahu aspd by sat in 7th and 7th lord in 12th. > 6th lord of court cases retro in 10th is also exalted in Rasi and in 8th with > Rahu forming guruchandalyoga. > uppada with sun and venus aspd by retro jup. > 7th lord in 3rd in mutual asp with 6th lord of court cases in navamsa also > aspd by MARS from 12th!!hence seperation. > native may gain from the court case moneterily.2nd half of july and 1st > week of aug is a period of gain. > custody of children could be 50-50.or in his favour. > he must be in a good position in job since 10th lord in 9th in a RAJAYOGA > and jup exaltd in 10th and also hapens 2b the lagna lord of D10. > His financial position must be good. > regards, > gopi. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our group is very active. > > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine. > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA > > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle. > > > > Interesting questions for the group are: > > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife (soon to be ex-wife)? > > > > A bonus question is : > > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in 2006)? > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage. > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. > > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also welcome. > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I can. > > > > I will post the results of this July 9th, Arizona Time 5:00 Pm (New Delhi, 5:30 AM July 10th). > > > > If possible please send replies to my email address chandran_manoj@ ..... and I will send them all out on July 10th (If moderators agree). > > > > Regards, > > > > -Manoj > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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