Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome: Vinothkumar Ji

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Dear Vinothkumar Ji,

 

You wrote:

 

// MErcury's debilitation in Rasi is not relevant as Navamsa placement can better it. //

 

I am concerned with the above statement because there are many in this Group who are not very experienced and when we make such statements, they may assume it is true. Debilitation of ANY planet in Rasi is VERY RELEVANT. The two statements above do not necessarily go with each other. One is True the other is blatantly False.

 

Mercury's debilitation in Rasi is not relevant :- False

 

Navamsa placement CAN better it :- True

 

How much better? Does Navamsha over power the Rashi? Is Rashi/Navamsha 50/50 effect? Is Rashi/Navamsha 75/25 effect? Or is Rashi/Navamsha 25/75 effect?

 

Here are some of the comments from the CS Patel Book you are referring to:

 

// Rashi is Maha Dasha, Navamsha is Antar Dasha //

// Rashi is like a photograph, Navamsha is like an Xray //

 

Do these comments indicate to you that Rashi placement is Irrelevant? or Are you talking from personal experience?

 

Regards,

 

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

"vinothkumarmd" <vinothkumarmd Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 9:59:36 PM Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome

 

An observationI have noticed that if Mercury as 3rd lord from lagna is debilitated in Rasi and navamsa,the native will marry a person whose father has died 3 rd house is father-in law houseMErcury's debilitation in Rasi is not relevant as Navamsa placement can better it.If Debilitated in navamsa also the person will have difficulties in conveying his ideasto others ,bit of anxiety casuing inclarity in language he speaks though he may be well proficient in the languages concernedVinothancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Mr.Mehta,> Thank you for your response. Yes, the person does take hasty and reckless decisions often. DOes not appear to have any control over his speech and

actions many a time. Moreover, the mind does not think straight at all. He always prefers devious methods of functioning. Even in speech, the answers are never straight. If he says 10%, 90% is left to your imagination. Even then one can't be sure of what he is saying. After all imaginations do have a tendency of running wild......> BUt thanks for your clarification.. Especially about mars aspect on moon.> Regards,> Anita> > --- On Mon, 6/7/09, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:> > > chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 6 July, 2009, 8:22 AM> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars aspect on Moon makes already fast planet even faster.> This makes the Mann ashant - restless. It can trouble the person and also make him/her take impatient decisions. Weather the decisions are hanky- panky is also dependant on other benefic/malefic aspects, conjunction & placement.> I have mars aspecting moon in natal chart buy no hanky-panky till now. And looks unlikely in future.> > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > --- On Mon, 6/7/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote:> > > Anita R <ash.rsh55 >> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 6 July, 2009, 9:48 AM> > > > > > >

> > Hi,> Dear Manoj ji, it is me Anita. I think I forgot to sign my name at the bottom. Apologies.> His mercury is debilitated. I want to know what impact do kuja, retro guru, retro shani might have on his psyche.> regards,> Anita> > --- On Sun, 5/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 5:18 PM> > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji (sorry if this is wrong since you did not sign your name),> > For false speech, 2nd house, 2nd lord and Mercury's status are very important. Do we know the condition of Me in this chart

(ofcourse without ascendant it is tough).> > -Manoj> > > > > > "ash.rsh55 " <ash.rsh55 >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:15:27 PM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > Dear all,> while we are on the topic of divorce, possible extra marital affairs etc. I would like to raise a point which has beeb bugging me for a long time. I do not know if this is the right time to raise this but it is certainly connected to the topic. If the moderators feel the time is not ripe for this query, perhaps they will withold this mail until Manoj ji announces the result of the fascinating quiz he has come up with. > Moon , the house he is occupying, the aspects he gets are primarily responsibl e

for our mental set up. I want to know, what is the impact of benefics / malefics occupying 6th, 8th and 12th from moon?> Eg: a friend has moon in taurus, retro guru with retro saturn in dhanu which is 8th house from taurus, has mars in kumbha casting 4th house aspect on moon. I do not have his time of birth but only the date of birth. He is a chronic lier. Lies even when there is no need to. And ofcourse gets caught. He has been up to "Hanky Panky" right from 1995 - as far as my knowledge goes- and has been caught by his wife just last week> > --- On Sat, 4/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> ancient_indian_ astrology> Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 7:36 PM> > Dear Mohit Ji,>

> Thanks for your additional comments and clarification.> > Regards,> > -Manoj> > Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . . com> Saturday, July 4, 2009 12:32:05 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > Dear Manoj,> > Sir u r right tht Sat seeing Venus is always undesireable for men chart but u see Manoj g tht Saturn being 5th lord sitting in own house is strongery it maydelay not denial i feel tht and seeing 8th lord who is also Lagnesh too (which i forgot to write in the last mail ) confirm this (i feel) & 8th lord being in 5th house then i feel late or deny children ( got to lot of things wit tht &

but in this case 5th lord is in his own house) & lot of break in affairs & i feel for her wife's i feel tht sat being 10 n 11th lord and Naks of exclated Jupiter who is too retro may be she must be Teacher or Teaching sometimes . well Sir i m too waiting for ur answer . Thanks u so much Mohit> > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . . com> Friday, July 3, 2009, 5:38 PM> > Dear Mohit Ji,> > Those are interesting comments.. I am not sure if Renu ji had the exact thought process and we will have to wait for her response. However, hold on to your thoughts and once the results are revealed we can come back and analyze it.>

> In the meantime some things to keep in mind are:> > 5th lord seing the 8th in this case..> > If instead 8th lord was aspecting the 5th, what would be your conclusion?> How things need to be interpreted differently in these two cases?> > Sure Sa aspects Venus (always undersirable in Man's chart) but Sa is also 5th L.. Does this make things better or worse?> > Thanks for sharing your thoughts.> > Regards,> > -Manoj> > Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:28:28 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > Yes i agree tht i feel is the u see tht 5th lord seeing venus who is also 8th lord from Lagna i think tht guy had some

affair n as u see from 7th house Mars is in 6th house she is not at all optimistic person too, Thanks Mohit> > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) . co.uk> wrote:> > renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:18 AM> > Dear Manoj ji,> > //He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > battle.//> > This sentence and "will he gain financially. ..."..."the custody of the kids...."... .> > ..........all the above made me think that the native is the innocent party according to your thinking. He is your friend and from your mail I could infer> some sympathetic attitude from you towards him...> > Astrologically, when

Neelam ji pointed out, Sun-Ve in 8H Scorpio from Aries [7H], the spouse's house, confirmed it.> > I may be wrong......let' s wait till you 'spill the beans'.> > blessings,> > Renu> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu Ji,> > > > > > Some how I missed this comment of yours.> > > > > > "I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. "> > > > > > > > > Why do you say that? What in my post gave you that impression? I was trying to be very careful and not give any indications one way or the other.> > > > > > Please clarify so I can correct the error. I did not intend to claim that the native is the "innocent"

party.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > renunw <renunw@>> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thursday, July 2, 2009 9:56:07 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Blind Quiz: Divorce/Child custody Outcome> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > > > > Thanks so much. This would help me in answering Manoj ji's questions on this chart. You should be correct....I think his post makes us assume that the native is the innocent party. > > >

> > > So, 2nd is the 8H house of the spouse....once again Ve, Sun combo in the 8H, this time that of the spouse... Interesting.> > > > > > blessings,> > > > > > Renu> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta> <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > > > House placement is also very important. 2nd house always shows secret> > > > affairs of spouse being 8th from 7th.> > > > Sun-venus in 2H is more likely to show wife's affairs rather than native's,> > > > if other conditions also prevail...> > > > Of course Manoj ji may confirm.> > > > > > > > Regards> >

> > Neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/2 renunw <renunw@>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > >> > > > > My answer will be later...but just noticed that this chart fits to group's> > > > > earlier discussion below:> > > > >> > > > > //"if the lagna is taurus, or libra and venus as> lagna> > > > > lord is in scorpio, ( he says it is a house of secrets) I should not> > > > > entertain any boy with such a combination for my daughter or any other girl> > > > > in our family. He says, it is a guarantee that the person will have any> > > > >

number of relationships in his/her life..//> > > > >> > > > > The chart you gave is Libra Lagna and LL Venus is placed in Scorpio, the> > > > > house of secrets...> > > > >> > > > > Wonder what caused the divorce !!!> > > > >> > > > > blessings,> > > > >> > > > > Renu> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> > > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > >> > > > > > Here is a quiz I recently posted at

Jyotish_Vidya group. I have not> > > > > received any official response there yet. So I am posting it here since our> > > > > group is very active..> > > > > >> > > > > > Here is the data of a friend of mine.> > > > > > Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA> > > > > >> > > > > > He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody> > > > > battle.> > > > > >> > > > > > Interesting questions for the group are:> > > > > >> > > > > > Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce?> > > > > > Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife> > > > >

(soon to be> ex-wife)?> > > > > >> > > > > > A bonus question is :> > > > > >> > > > > > What was the profession of the wife before marriage (Marriage happened in> > > > > 2006)?> > > > > > She went back to college and changed her profession after Marriage.> > > > > > The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing.> > > > > >> > > > > > Any comments on professional and financial status of this Native is also> > > > > welcome.> > > > > > Please provide any other details you may want to and I will confirm if I> > > > > can.> > > > > >> > > > > > I will post the results of this

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