Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear friends, Can anybody guide to some good astrology sites where one can learn the basics and advance techniques of Jamini astrology, and learn to apply the rules for Arudha,Upapada,Karakamsa etc. ? I visited some few where only some examples were given without the basic knowledge given to the reader about what is what. This is required for myself. Though I have studied Jamini astrology 20 years ago, but never got interested to go deep in same. But now the interest is awakening. I have all books available on same, but wish also to learn from sites. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, You are a well known and accomplished astrologer, and being so It is good to know you are interested in Jaimini. Jaimini updesh sutra can be correctly learned and applied only if you are in a parampara and has learned from a guru. This is a fact that I have come to realize. You can visit Sohamsa website Of achyut parampara just for getting informed that jaimini is now available for learning. This website has a list of gurus to choose from , in case you are interested in their parampara. By the way if you apply just now you may not get response till the end of this month from any one of them. With best wishes. Swami_rcs , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > Can anybody guide to some good astrology sites where one can learn the > basics and advance techniques of Jamini astrology, and learn to apply > the rules for Arudha,Upapada,Karakamsa etc. ? I visited some few where > only some examples were given without the basic knowledge given to the > reader about what is what. > > This is required for myself. Though I have studied Jamini astrology 20 > years ago, but never got interested to go deep in same. But now the > interest is awakening. I have all books available on same, but wish also > to learn from sites. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Dear Srivastav ji, Thank you for the mail and good advise given to me. I am a bit confused, because I have seen some Gurus from certain Paramparas, suggesting as remedial measure grave Poojas, at the drop of a hat, to unsuspecting natives. For instance I have read many times on these Jyotish groups itself, Gurus suggesting Smashan Tara worship, or any of the Dus MahaVidya worships to natives, to purge them of their ills in their Horoscopes. Such type of random and blatant pushing of these members to such Worships which require great rituals and customary implications and prerequisites to be followed, is not in conformity, with my own line of thinking. Which is why though I am a member of all such forums on Jamini, but visit them once a year or even less than that. Jamini system is very good for certain applications and I had analysed my own chart keeping such principles in mind, but that was a long time agao, and I was probably too raw then. I respect your good advise and would also like to add, that if a student is sincere, serious, yearning and ready for more, some Guru would be sent to him by Mother Nature. I will accept your advise and pay a visit to the Sohamsa Group. kind regards, Bhaskar. , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > You are a well known and accomplished astrologer, and being so It is good to know you are interested in Jaimini. > Jaimini updesh sutra can be correctly learned and applied only if you are in a parampara and has learned from a guru. This is a fact that I have come to realize. > You can visit Sohamsa website Of achyut parampara just for getting informed that jaimini is now available for learning. > This website has a list of gurus to choose from , in case you are interested in their parampara. > By the way if you apply just now you may not get response till the end of this month from any one of them. > > With best wishes. > Swami_rcs > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Can anybody guide to some good astrology sites where one can learn the > > basics and advance techniques of Jamini astrology, and learn to apply > > the rules for Arudha,Upapada,Karakamsa etc. ? I visited some few where > > only some examples were given without the basic knowledge given to the > > reader about what is what. > > > > This is required for myself. Though I have studied Jamini astrology 20 > > years ago, but never got interested to go deep in same. But now the > > interest is awakening. I have all books available on same, but wish also > > to learn from sites. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, Sorry , for not mentioning that , sohamsa I meant was not a - group but web pages, Here I mention URL As clarification. http://www.sohamsa.com/js/ http://www.sohamsa.com/dbc/ sorry for inconvenience. With best wishes RCS. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Srivastav ji, > > Thank you for the mail and good advise given to me. I am a bit confused, > because I have seen some Gurus from certain Paramparas, suggesting as > remedial measure grave Poojas, at the drop of a hat, to unsuspecting > natives. > > For instance I have read many times on these Jyotish groups itself, > Gurus suggesting Smashan Tara worship, or any of the Dus MahaVidya > worships to natives, to purge them of their ills in their Horoscopes. > Such type of random and blatant pushing of these members to such > Worships which require great rituals and customary implications and > prerequisites to be followed, is not in conformity, with my own line of > thinking. Which is why though I am a member of all such forums on > Jamini, but visit them once a year or even less than that. > > Jamini system is very good for certain applications and I had analysed > my own chart keeping such principles in mind, but that was a long time > agao, and I was probably too raw then. > > I respect your good advise and would also like to add, that if a student > is sincere, serious, yearning and ready for more, some Guru would be > sent to him by Mother Nature. > > I will accept your advise and pay a visit to the Sohamsa Group. > > kind regards, > > Bhaskar. , " R.C.Srivastava " > <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > You are a well known and accomplished astrologer, and being so It is > good to know you are interested in Jaimini. > > Jaimini updesh sutra can be correctly learned and applied only if you > are in a parampara and has learned from a guru. This is a fact that I > have come to realize. > > You can visit Sohamsa website Of achyut parampara just for getting > informed that jaimini is now available for learning. > > This website has a list of gurus to choose from , in case you are > interested in their parampara. > > By the way if you apply just now you may not get response till the end > of this month from any one of them. > > > > With best wishes. > > Swami_rcs > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Can anybody guide to some good astrology sites where one can learn > the > > > basics and advance techniques of Jamini astrology, and learn to > apply > > > the rules for Arudha,Upapada,Karakamsa etc. ? I visited some few > where > > > only some examples were given without the basic knowledge given to > the > > > reader about what is what. > > > > > > This is required for myself. Though I have studied Jamini astrology > 20 > > > years ago, but never got interested to go deep in same. But now the > > > interest is awakening. I have all books available on same, but wish > also > > > to learn from sites. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Namaste Mr. Srivastava ji, Welcome to our group...... nice to see your emails after a long gap..... //Jaimini updesh sutra can be correctly learned and applied only if you are in a parampara and has learned from a guru. // This conditional learning (that only a Guru would initiate) is never in any of our Hindu scriptures. Example, even in highest realms of spirituality such conditions are not prevalent and to say it is applicable for Jamini Techniques means going to back in ages..... There are many practioners in Western hemisphere but they were never initiated or taught by a Guru. Taking the case of Sri K.N. Rao, he was NEVER taught by any Guru (keeping Jamini Astrology as focus), but he has successfully used the technique to predict many times.... and the same UNTRAINED or self initiated Sri Rao. K.N. has taught Jamini Astrology through his Chara Dasha book and direct classes....successfully. Tomorrow another dictum would follow that the Jamini Guru should be a bramhachari or a brahmin origin or both.... Conclusion: 1) There are NO conditions for learning. Example: Kshatriya Vishwamitra can become Brahma-rishi through sheer tenacity..... 2) There ARE CONDITIONS for somebody becoming a GURU..............every learned student CANNOT become a GURU. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Dear Sreeram Ji and All, For any one interested in venturing seriously into the Jaimini techniques has to understand that there are significant differences in opinion between Shri KN Rao Ji and Shri Sanjay Rath Ji. Some of these differences go to the heart of the system. They both differ in their opinions on which chara karaka scheme to use, whether one can use Rahu as AK or not, and even as to the basic definition of what "Karakamsha" means. Considering that Maharishi Jaimini uses AK and Karakamsha extensively, these are Major and fundamental differences. It may also be noted here that Shri KN Rao Ji's opinion on some of these matters do not agree with Shri BV Raman Ji either. We all know that even in the parashari system there are different approaches and techniques but this difference in the Jaimini system is very fundamental and goes to the core of the system. So one has to take a deep breath and decide which system to learn, according to ones own judgement. However it is also interesting that major players mentioned above do agree on one thing, that is, Parashari and Jaimini techniques can be used in conjunction. This ofcourse by itself is a major conterversy since there are many other teachers and lineages of teachers who believe that these systems stand on their own merits and should not be mixed together. Most of the people who believe this also believe that BPHS that is available to us today, is not an original document, but more of a later compilation of all available information regarding two different systems compiled in one place. And hence they reject the argument that since both systems are mentioned in BPHS, they were meant to be used together. Regards, -Manoj sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 5:54:15 PM Re: Jamini Astrology Namaste Mr. Srivastava ji,Welcome to our group...... nice to see your emails after a longgap.....//Jaimini updesh sutra can be correctly learned and applied only if youare in a parampara and has learned from a guru. //This conditional learning (that only a Guru would initiate) is never inany of our Hindu scriptures. Example, even in highest realms ofspirituality such conditions are not prevalent and to say it isapplicable for Jamini Techniques means going to back in ages..... Thereare many practioners in Western hemisphere but they were never initiatedor taught by a Guru.Taking the case of Sri K.N. Rao, he was NEVER taught by any Guru(keeping Jamini Astrology as focus), but he has successfully used thetechnique to predict many times.... and the same UNTRAINED or selfinitiated Sri Rao. K.N. has taught Jamini Astrology through his CharaDasha book and direct classes....successf ully.Tomorrow another dictum would follow that the Jamini Guru should be abramhachari or a brahmin origin or both....Conclusion:1) There are NO conditions for learning. Example: KshatriyaVishwamitra can become Brahma-rishi through sheer tenacity..... .2) There ARE CONDITIONS for somebody becoming a GURU........ .......everylearned student CANNOT become a GURU.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Dear all, I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section of " Studies in Jaimini Astrology " by Shri BV Raman written on 20th October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Dear friends, I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking in train and listening them. Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work. Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his jaimini notes. I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authers through lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao. I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach whatever they thought fit to teach. Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious application of Astrology. Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine . with best wishes. RCS , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section > of " Studies in Jaimini Astrology " by Shri BV Raman written on 20th > October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures > about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Dear Sreeram-ji, I agree with your view point. Regards Souvik , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Mr. Srivastava ji, > > Welcome to our group...... nice to see your emails after a long > gap..... > > //Jaimini updesh sutra can be correctly learned and applied only if you > are in a parampara and has learned from a guru. // > > This conditional learning (that only a Guru would initiate) is never in > any of our Hindu scriptures. Example, even in highest realms of > spirituality such conditions are not prevalent and to say it is > applicable for Jamini Techniques means going to back in ages..... There > are many practioners in Western hemisphere but they were never initiated > or taught by a Guru. > > Taking the case of Sri K.N. Rao, he was NEVER taught by any Guru > (keeping Jamini Astrology as focus), but he has successfully used the > technique to predict many times.... and the same UNTRAINED or self > initiated Sri Rao. K.N. has taught Jamini Astrology through his Chara > Dasha book and direct classes....successfully. > > Tomorrow another dictum would follow that the Jamini Guru should be a > bramhachari or a brahmin origin or both.... > > Conclusion: > > 1) There are NO conditions for learning. Example: Kshatriya > Vishwamitra can become Brahma-rishi through sheer tenacity..... > > 2) There ARE CONDITIONS for somebody becoming a GURU..............every > learned student CANNOT become a GURU. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Namaste Mr. Manoj Chandran ji, I am aware of the technical differences amongst the currently popular interpretations on Jamini. The commentary of Mr. Iraganti Rangachary (or some respectable person) who spent considerable time on Jamini system, also believes on 7 Chara Karakas. So in short, Sri K.N. Rao and ICAS person have similarlity in views.... To have technical differences is always welcome and appreciated for something tangile logics emerge. As we belong to neither groups.... we can apply techniques of different schools and see their efficacy. What surprises me is that BPHS can be learnt by self reading, but Jamini requires a GURU's initiation....is something I am unable to accept. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Sreeram Ji, Sorry for short reply but I am borrowing computer from colleague. I was sure you were aware of differences (probably more than I am) but addressed the email to you for sake of continuity of subject, so please dont mistake me.. Maybe shortage of classical literature on Jaimini system is reason for the current situation. Regards, -Manoj sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 9:11:39 PM Re: Jamini Astrology Namaste Mr. Manoj Chandran ji,I am aware of the technical differences amongst the currently popularinterpretations on Jamini. The commentary of Mr. Iraganti Rangachary(or some respectable person) who spent considerable time on Jaminisystem, also believes on 7 Chara Karakas. So in short, Sri K.N. Raoand ICAS person have similarlity in views....To have technical differences is always welcome and appreciated forsomething tangile logics emerge. As we belong to neither groups.... wecan apply techniques of different schools and see their efficacy.What surprises me is that BPHS can be learnt by self reading, but Jaminirequires a GURU's initiation.. ..is something I am unable to accept.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Sreeramji, With full respect to Shri Srivastavji ji, I agree with you. Once a astrologer learns to do his astrology through learning Theory BPHS, or the calculation Arithmetic part, and is able to apply the rules reasonably , in due course over a spread period of time, to predict to natives coming to him for consultations, then this same astrologer if he wishes to learn another branch of astrology, he may not necessarily have to know a Guru or need one, if good books are available. At the most he may need a instructor at times when he does not understand certain matters. But a Guru is not a necessity. I know having studied here, the Bhartiya Vidya Bhuvan at Bombay, if a student clears out his first 2 years from this college of Jyotish Vidya, then he will be able to understand the toughest books in the world on Western astrology with their queer terms, aspects and symbols, which no normal astrologer can understand if given. Thus it all depends on the base of the student looking for new education. If the base is strong he just requires education and not a particular Guru. Regards to Jamini, Shri BV Raman did not have any for Jamini. He himself translated the shlokas in English for the first time in India and learnt further by discussions with elders of those times. But a Guru for this he had none. warm wishes, Bhaskar. , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Mr. Manoj Chandran ji, > > I am aware of the technical differences amongst the currently popular > interpretations on Jamini. The commentary of Mr. Iraganti Rangachary > (or some respectable person) who spent considerable time on Jamini > system, also believes on 7 Chara Karakas. So in short, Sri K.N. Rao > and ICAS person have similarlity in views.... > > To have technical differences is always welcome and appreciated for > something tangile logics emerge. As we belong to neither groups.... we > can apply techniques of different schools and see their efficacy. > > What surprises me is that BPHS can be learnt by self reading, but Jamini > requires a GURU's initiation....is something I am unable to accept. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I would rather say that instead of differences, we have more choices for prognistications. One may use the Chara dasa and check whether it fits his Life events in a better manner than the Vimsottari. One may check whether the planet in his chart which normally they call as a Yogkaraka in his chart, does it behave like a Badhaka. One may check whether the suposed to be malefic planet in his chart , becomes the atmakaraka. One may check whether the Lagna which one considers strong in his Natal chart, does it remain so even from the Arudha, Upapada and the Karakamsa. We get to apply a further number of choices and this game of prediction seeking for our own charts becomes more interesting. In fact wherever the void remains in Jamini system, the author has asked the readers to refer to the BPHS. So these systems, for any sincere good hearted astrologer would always instead of being contrary to each other, would run paralell. regards/Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Sreeram Ji, > > Sorry for short reply but I am borrowing computer from colleague. I was sure you were aware of differences (probably more than I am) but addressed the email to you for sake of continuity of subject, so please dont mistake me. Maybe shortage of classical literature on Jaimini system is reason for the current situation. > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 > > Thursday, July 9, 2009 9:11:39 PM > Re: Jamini Astrology Namaste Mr. Manoj Chandran ji, > > I am aware of the technical differences amongst the currently popular > interpretations on Jamini. The commentary of Mr. Iraganti Rangachary > (or some respectable person) who spent considerable time on Jamini > system, also believes on 7 Chara Karakas. So in short, Sri K.N. Rao > and ICAS person have similarlity in views.... > > To have technical differences is always welcome and appreciated for > something tangile logics emerge. As we belong to neither groups.... we > can apply techniques of different schools and see their efficacy. > > What surprises me is that BPHS can be learnt by self reading, but Jamini > requires a GURU's initiation.. ..is something I am unable to accept. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 And these two brahmins belonged to Punjab. It was when Chara Dasha calculations were being discussed and Shri K.N. Rao, silently absorbed that discussion but look at the greatness of the person. He acknowledges it in both his books on Jaimini, Char dasha and Karkamsha and Mandook Dasha. regards, Manoj (Mouji) R.C.Srivastava <swami.rcs Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:33:52 PM Re: Jamini Astrology Dear friends,I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking in train and listening them.Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work.Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his jaimini notes.I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authersthrough lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao.I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach whatever they thought fit to teach.Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious application of Astrology.Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine .with best wishes.RCSancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear all,> > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section> of "Studies in Jaimini Astrology" by Shri BV Raman written on 20th> October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures> about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested.> > regards/Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 ABSOLUTELY! 2009/7/10 Manoj Kumar <mouji99 And these two brahmins belonged to Punjab. It was when Chara Dasha calculations were being discussed and Shri K.N. Rao, silently absorbed that discussion but look at the greatness of the person. He acknowledges it in both his books on Jaimini, Char dasha and Karkamsha and Mandook Dasha. regards, Manoj (Mouji) R.C.Srivastava <swami.rcs Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:33:52 PM Re: Jamini Astrology Dear friends,I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking in train and listening them.Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work. Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his jaimini notes.I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authers through lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao.I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach whatever they thought fit to teach. Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious application of Astrology.Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine .with best wishes.RCSancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: >> > Dear all,> > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section> of " Studies in Jaimini Astrology " by Shri BV Raman written on 20th> October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures > about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested.> > regards/Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Neelam ji/Manoj kumar ji, just a small and humble corection. 1.Those two persons are not from punjab but from andhra pradesh. 2.They are 'pundits';not brahmins(pundits need not be brahmins only.) Sri K.N.RAO ji mentions about them in his books on JAIMINI. I am reproducing below what he wrote about them "VERBATIM "IN HIS BOOK jaimini's chara dasa page 25. "in a train on a pilgrimage i found two andra pandits discussing a horoscope thru jaimini system in telugu language which is my mother tongue." It is to those UNKNOWN GURUS i dedicate this book. Regards, gopi. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> And these two brahmins belonged to Punjab. It was when Chara Dasha calculations were being discussed and Shri K.N. Rao, silently absorbed that discussion but look at the greatness of the person. He acknowledges it in both his books on Jaimini, Char dasha and Karkamsha and Mandook Dasha.> > regards,> > Manoj (Mouji)> > > > > ________________________________> R.C.Srivastava swami.rcs > Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:33:52 PM> Re: Jamini Astrology> > > > > > Dear friends,> > I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has > mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking in train and listening them.> Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work.> Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his jaimini notes.> I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authers> through lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao.> I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach whatever they thought fit to teach.> > Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious application of Astrology.> Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine .> with best wishes.> RCS> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear all,> > > > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section> > of "Studies in Jaimini Astrology" by Shri BV Raman written on 20th> > October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures> > about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear Gopi ji,Thanks for correction. You are right. I am sorry I overlooked that. Manoj ji also will agree I think.I was rather reaffirming Shri Rao's insistence on always acknowledging the source or information and knowledge. He always writes and shares everything openly. Which is something, we as his students admire about him.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 OK Neelam ji, i understand. regards, gopi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Namaste Mr. Manoj Chandran ji, The problem with astrology is that those having the old books or manuscripts are rarely willing to part. Earlier remember reading a post in Sohamsa group that there are almost around 12+ commentaries on Jamini Astrology. I remember a person who witnessed the event telling me ) - that a Jamini manuscript is given to Mr. Sanjay Rath by a Hindu seer on some occasion, later the that original book is kept secret, while other commentaries come out - possibly as its own interpretations.... See the list prepared by Mr. Shanmukha ji in that group.1 Mr. Kishore Patnaik who was active in this group for some time... (he has constraints of lack of computer at work & home), approached Mr. Rayudu-approaching 80 yrs, to share his personal library, know the ordeals of his chasing this....finally realized even if invited and given free...he would NOT dare to approach Mr. Rayudu....!! With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Those who conceal knowledge and do not share it, will shine only for some little time in this world, and then the glow will fade gradually much before their end comes . They would neither leave a good memmory behind them, and neither will they be shown the doors to the elevated astral spheres when they go up. Those who share their knowledge when living would receive blessings and good wishes and thanks from one and all while living, and also when they are no more, the living who make use of this knowledge left will always bless the soul which must have reacheth the higher realms. These Great men will shine like the Pole Star and will always guide and give directions to the coming generations. Always share your bounties, coz who has giveth them to ye if not HE? Bhaskar. , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Mr. Manoj Chandran ji, > > The problem with astrology is that those having the old books or > manuscripts are rarely willing to part. Earlier remember reading a post > in Sohamsa group that there are almost around 12+ commentaries on Jamini > Astrology. I remember a person who witnessed the event telling me ) - > that a Jamini manuscript is given to Mr. Sanjay Rath by a Hindu seer on > some occasion, later the that original book is kept secret, while other > commentaries come out - possibly as its own interpretations.... > > See the list prepared by Mr. Shanmukha ji in that group.1 > > Mr. Kishore Patnaik who was active in this group for some time... (he > has constraints of lack of computer at work & home), approached Mr. > Rayudu-approaching 80 yrs, to share his personal library, know the > ordeals of his chasing this....finally realized even if invited and > given free...he would NOT dare to approach Mr. Rayudu....!! > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 The andhra person was vemuri ramamurthi shastri. regards, Manoj (mouji) gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:59:22 PM Re: Jamini Astrology Dear Neelam ji/Manoj kumar ji, just a small and humble corection. 1.Those two persons are not from punjab but from andhra pradesh. 2.They are 'pundits';not brahmins(pundits need not be brahmins only.) Sri K.N.RAO ji mentions about them in his books on JAIMINI. I am reproducing below what he wrote about them "VERBATIM "IN HIS BOOK jaimini's chara dasa page 25. "in a train on a pilgrimage i found two andra pandits discussing a horoscope thru jaimini system in telugu language which is my mother tongue." It is to those UNKNOWN GURUS i dedicate this book. Regards, gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> And these two brahmins belonged to Punjab. It was when Chara Dasha calculations were being discussed and Shri K.N. Rao, silently absorbed that discussion but look at the greatness of the person. He acknowledges it in both his books on Jaimini, Char dasha and Karkamsha and Mandook Dasha.> > regards,> > Manoj (Mouji)> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> R.C.Srivastava swami.rcs@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:33:52 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jamini Astrology> > > > > > Dear friends,> > I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has > mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking in train and listening them.> Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work.> Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his jaimini notes.> I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authers> through lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao.> I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach whatever they thought fit to teach.> > Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious application of Astrology.> Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine .> with best wishes.> RCS> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear all,> > > > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section> > of "Studies in Jaimini Astrology" by Shri BV Raman written on 20th> > October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures> > about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Vemuri Ramamurthi Shastri was the famous Andhra astrolger who KN Rao could never meet, but nonetheless acknowldeges him as his Jaimini Guru. In is own words://Then there was Vemuri Ram Murthy Shastri in a village in Andhra Pradesh whom I never met personally. I read his predictions along with accompanying calculations and logic, brought to me by some friends. He was a true genius and I was his uninitiated disciple, much like Eklavya[35]. Even though I never met him, I have paid my tributes to him in my book “Predicting through Jaimini's Chara Dasha.”//Vemuri is not the one he met on the train. There were two other Andhra astrologers.RegardsNeelam2009/7/10 Manoj Kumar <mouji99 The andhra person was vemuri ramamurthi shastri. regards, Manoj (mouji) gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 Friday, July 10, 2009 12:59:22 PM Re: Jamini Astrology Dear Neelam ji/Manoj kumar ji, just a small and humble corection. 1.Those two persons are not from punjab but from andhra pradesh. 2.They are 'pundits';not brahmins(pundits need not be brahmins only.) Sri K.N.RAO ji mentions about them in his books on JAIMINI. I am reproducing below what he wrote about them " VERBATIM " IN HIS BOOK jaimini's chara dasa page 25. " in a train on a pilgrimage i found two andra pandits discussing a horoscope thru jaimini system in telugu language which is my mother tongue. " It is to those UNKNOWN GURUS i dedicate this book. Regards, gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> And these two brahmins belonged to Punjab. It was when Chara Dasha calculations were being discussed and Shri K.N. Rao, silently absorbed that discussion but look at the greatness of the person. He acknowledges it in both his books on Jaimini, Char dasha and Karkamsha and Mandook Dasha. > > regards,> > Manoj (Mouji)> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> R.C.Srivastava swami.rcs@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:33:52 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jamini Astrology> > > > > > Dear friends,> > I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has > mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking in train and listening them.> Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work.> Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his jaimini notes. > I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authers> through lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao. > I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach whatever they thought fit to teach.> > Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious application of Astrology. > Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine .> with best wishes.> RCS> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > >> > > > Dear all,> > > > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section> > of " Studies in Jaimini Astrology " by Shri BV Raman written on 20th > > October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures> > about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Dear All,Shri K N Rao's interview of 2005, candid and revealing, must be read by all. http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-knrao.htm RegardsNeelam2009/7/10 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Vemuri Ramamurthi Shastri was the famous Andhra astrolger who KN Rao could never meet, but nonetheless acknowldeges him as his Jaimini Guru. In is own words://Then there was Vemuri Ram Murthy Shastri in a village in Andhra Pradesh whom I never met personally. I read his predictions along with accompanying calculations and logic, brought to me by some friends. He was a true genius and I was his uninitiated disciple, much like Eklavya[35]. Even though I never met him, I have paid my tributes to him in my book “Predicting through Jaimini's Chara Dasha.”//Vemuri is not the one he met on the train. There were two other Andhra astrologers.RegardsNeelam 2009/7/10 Manoj Kumar <mouji99 The andhra person was vemuri ramamurthi shastri. regards, Manoj (mouji) gopi_b927 <gopi_b927 Friday, July 10, 2009 12:59:22 PM Re: Jamini Astrology Dear Neelam ji/Manoj kumar ji, just a small and humble corection. 1.Those two persons are not from punjab but from andhra pradesh. 2.They are 'pundits';not brahmins(pundits need not be brahmins only.) Sri K.N.RAO ji mentions about them in his books on JAIMINI. I am reproducing below what he wrote about them " VERBATIM " IN HIS BOOK jaimini's chara dasa page 25. " in a train on a pilgrimage i found two andra pandits discussing a horoscope thru jaimini system in telugu language which is my mother tongue. " It is to those UNKNOWN GURUS i dedicate this book. Regards, gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> And these two brahmins belonged to Punjab. It was when Chara Dasha calculations were being discussed and Shri K.N. Rao, silently absorbed that discussion but look at the greatness of the person. He acknowledges it in both his books on Jaimini, Char dasha and Karkamsha and Mandook Dasha. > > regards,> > Manoj (Mouji)> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> R.C.Srivastava swami.rcs@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:33:52 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jamini Astrology> > > > > > Dear friends,> > I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has > mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking in train and listening them.> Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work.> Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his jaimini notes. > I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authers> through lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao. > I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach whatever they thought fit to teach.> > Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious application of Astrology. > Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine .> with best wishes.> RCS> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > >> > > > Dear all,> > > > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section> > of " Studies in Jaimini Astrology " by Shri BV Raman written on 20th > > October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting disclosures> > about the Jamini system which would be informative for those interested.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I happened to chance on this a month ago. Its really good. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Shri K N Rao's interview of 2005, candid and revealing, must be read by all. > > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/articles-knrao.htm > > Regards > Neelam > > > > > 2009/7/10 neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > > > Vemuri Ramamurthi Shastri was the famous Andhra astrolger who KN Rao could > > never meet, but nonetheless acknowldeges him as his Jaimini Guru. In is own > > words: > > > > //Then there was Vemuri Ram Murthy Shastri in a village in Andhra Pradesh > > whom I never met personally. I read his predictions along with accompanying > > calculations and logic, brought to me by some friends. He was a true genius > > and I was his uninitiated disciple, much like Eklavya[35]. Even though I > > never met him, I have paid my tributes to him in my book " *Predicting > > through Jaimini's Chara Dasha*. " // > > > > Vemuri is not the one he met on the train. There were two other Andhra > > astrologers. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/10 Manoj Kumar mouji99 > > > >> > >> > >> The andhra person was vemuri ramamurthi shastri. > >> > >> regards, > >> > >> Manoj (mouji) > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> ** gopi_b927 gopi_b927 > >> *To:* > >> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 12:59:22 PM > >> > >> *Subject:* Re: Jamini Astrology > >> > >> *Dear Neelam ji/Manoj kumar ji,* > >> > >> *just a small and humble corection.* > >> > >> *1.Those two persons are not from punjab but from andhra pradesh.* > >> > >> *2.They are 'pundits';not brahmins(pundits need not be brahmins only.)* > >> > >> *Sri K.N.RAO ji mentions about them in his books on JAIMINI.* > >> > >> *I am reproducing below what he wrote about them " VERBATIM " IN HIS BOOK > >> jaimini's chara dasa page 25.* > >> > >> * " in a train on a pilgrimage i found two andra pandits discussing a > >> horoscope thru jaimini system in telugu language which is my mother tongue. " > >> * > >> > >> *It is to those UNKNOWN GURUS i dedicate this book.* > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> gopi. > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > And these two brahmins belonged to Punjab. It was when Chara Dasha > >> calculations were being discussed and Shri K.N. Rao, silently absorbed that > >> discussion but look at the greatness of the person. He acknowledges it in > >> both his books on Jaimini, Char dasha and Karkamsha and Mandook Dasha. > >> > > >> > regards, > >> > > >> > Manoj (Mouji) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __ > >> > R.C.Srivastava swami.rcs@ . > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > >> > Thursday, July 9, 2009 6:33:52 PM > >> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jamini Astrology > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear friends, > >> > > >> > I will not enter into debate.To my knowledge Sh K.N.Rao himself has > >> > mentioned how he got a feel of jaimini from two Jaimini scholars talking > >> in train and listening them. > >> > Being a astrologer and having plateform OF astrological magazine He > >> brought out fresh air in jaimini by his own hard work. > >> > Later on there was full length article on famous jaimini authority in > >> astrological magazine who not finding appropiate disciple destroyed all his > >> jaimini notes. > >> > I need not go in detail. In last 36 years i have gone through many of > >> avaiable commenteries and tried some techniques taught by famous authers > >> > through lessions and articles on jaimini in astrological Magazine.I have > >> studied all the books on jaimini by Sri k.N.Rao. > >> > I have full respect to all the veterans who were kind enough to teach > >> whatever they thought fit to teach. > >> > > >> > Inspit of difference in approach , Jaimini has great future for serious > >> application of Astrology. > >> > Being part of Vedang surely it calls for certain discipline and I > >> understand aspiring students will find teacher by grace of Divine . > >> > with best wishes. > >> > RCS > >> > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Dear all, > >> > > > >> > > I would request all those who have access, to read the Preface Section > >> > > of " Studies in Jaimini Astrology " by Shri BV Raman written on 20th > >> > > October 1950. That 2 Page Preface mentions very interesting > >> disclosures > >> > > about the Jamini system which would be informative for those > >> interested. > >> > > > >> > > regards/Bhaskar. > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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