[VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadha

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

The editors were under the influence of Dr.David Pingree's works, which tried to

show that the Indians learnt everything from the Greeks. Thus the editors were

under the impression that the Rashis could not have been there in the Vedanga

Jyotisha, which is a text composed around 1800 BCE  to 1400 BCE. Whle editing

the Vedanga Jyotisha they obviously showed that the verse containing the Rashis

may have been interpolated. As it suits Mr. Kaul he is trying to align himself

with the editor Dr. K.V.Sharma.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved wrote:

 

 

Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved

[VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadha

vedic_research_institute

Friday, July 24, 2009, 12:09 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,

Namastey!

While trying to fix the date of the Vedanga Jyotisham, I managed to locate a

copy on the web. This is apart from the ones I have in hard copy editions.

It has a commentary by Prof. T. S. Kuppana Sastry, which has later been edited

by Dr. K. V. Sarma and is published by INSA.

What is to be noted is that the much disputed mantra regarding Mina Rashi, as

hyped by a " parokshya professor " has been shown as a spurious verse (numbered

zero and not fifthe after fourth mantra!) in the Yajur Jyotisham (and not

Rik-Jyotisham! ) of this edition also. And this (INSA) edition is the one that

that " parokshy-wala " was swearing by!

It is being attached herewith/uploaded in the files section just for your

perusal.

With regards,

A K Kaul

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

 

The editors were under the influence of Dr.David Pingree's works, which tried to show that the Indians learnt everything from the Greeks. Thus the editors were under the impression that the Rashis could not have been there in the Vedanga Jyotisha, which is a text composed around 1800 BCE to 1400 BCE. Whle editing the Vedanga Jyotisha they obviously showed that the verse containing the Rashis may have been interpolated. As it suits Mr. Kaul he is trying to align himself with the editor Dr. K.V.Sharma.

 

Regards,

 

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved wrote:

Avtar Krishen Kaul <jyotirved[VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadhavedic_research_institute Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 12:09 AM

Dear friends,Namastey!While trying to fix the date of the Vedanga Jyotisham, I managed to locate a copy on the web. This is apart from the ones I have in hard copy editions.It has a commentary by Prof. T. S. Kuppana Sastry, which has later been edited by Dr. K. V. Sarma and is published by INSA.What is to be noted is that the much disputed mantra regarding Mina Rashi, as hyped by a "parokshya professor" has been shown as a spurious verse (numbered zero and not fifthe after fourth mantra!) in the Yajur Jyotisham (and not Rik-Jyotisham! ) of this edition also. And this (INSA) edition is the one that that "parokshy-wala" was swearing by! It is being attached herewith/uploaded in the files section just for your perusal.With regards,A K Kaul

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

 

Because one community says that the Temple was not there , but it was

the Babri Masjid over there, does not make it the truth, because every

kid in India going to school knows when this community came into India,

and they were not there before. So if one puts a claim of a Masjid in

that area in last 1000 years, another can put a claim of a temple before

that for the previous 2000 years before that. Who is going in the past

to check this, record it in a camera and come back to us ?

 

Similiarly what does it matter to Amitabh Bacchan if someone says that

he copies DilipKumars acting ? Does it matter to him ? Does he care ? Is

he interested ? I dont think so.

 

In same way it does not matter to us what others think in this matter,

that we have learnt from the Greeks. This does not make it the truth.

 

What the terrorists call their soldiers as " Jehadis " for us they remain

traitors and terrorusts.

 

Who is AKK or those who are discussing profusely with him ? Are they

anywhere on the International Horizons to make a difference ? Does their

opinions have any say ?

 

On the contrary are we not giving such people great and continous

publicity by arguing and discussing with them continously till no end ?

Or do we wish to be linked with their names and stay on the limelight

using their shoulders , since we have no other way of staying in the

limelight? Then its another matter.

 

I remember clearly that AKK was not a very active figure on these forums

a year back. But we have made him famous and a " Somebody " by continously

referring to him, talking about him, arguing and discussing one sidedly

and presenting our mails related/addressed to him.

 

If such persons are left alone, then they would fade the natural way.

But we are igniting the spotlight on such figures and making them appear

great by continous exchanges made referring to him.

 

Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

Brilliant Point !!! There is a saying in English:

 

"Dont Wrestle with a Pig, You will get Dirty and the Pig Loves it".

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

PS: I am not calling any one a pig. The word is just used as an euphemism.

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:51:01 AM Re: [VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadha

Dear Friends,Because one community says that the Temple was not there , but it wasthe Babri Masjid over there, does not make it the truth, because everykid in India going to school knows when this community came into India,and they were not there before. So if one puts a claim of a Masjid inthat area in last 1000 years, another can put a claim of a temple beforethat for the previous 2000 years before that. Who is going in the pastto check this, record it in a camera and come back to us ?Similiarly what does it matter to Amitabh Bacchan if someone says thathe copies DilipKumars acting ? Does it matter to him ? Does he care ? Ishe interested ? I dont think so.In same way it does not matter to us what others think in this matter,that we have learnt from the Greeks. This does not make it the truth.What the terrorists call their soldiers as "Jehadis" for us they remaintraitors and

terrorusts.Who is AKK or those who are discussing profusely with him ? Are theyanywhere on the International Horizons to make a difference ? Does theiropinions have any say ?On the contrary are we not giving such people great and continouspublicity by arguing and discussing with them continously till no end ?Or do we wish to be linked with their names and stay on the limelightusing their shoulders , since we have no other way of staying in thelimelight? Then its another matter.I remember clearly that AKK was not a very active figure on these forumsa year back. But we have made him famous and a "Somebody" by continouslyreferring to him, talking about him, arguing and discussing one sidedlyand presenting our mails related/addressed to him.If such persons are left alone, then they would fade the natural way.But we are igniting the spotlight on such figures and making them

appeargreat by continous exchanges made referring to him.Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj ji,

 

Yes you are right here. We are wasting time when we discuss with

non-entities and try to prove ourselves right.

 

By the way one must learn to say " I Love You " or appreciate oneself, and

normally people do not have the guts to say the former to the women whom

they love, and neither does their EGO allow them to say the latter when

they must.

 

But not for me. I keep my EGO when necessary in the toes of my Shoes. I

loved your posting in the Jyotish Vidya group very much, and also

appreciated your take with happiness to my heart- of a astrologer. Since

I do not write much over there, I take the opportunity to address my

appreciation here. I do not know who you are and from where, but You

have the makings of a very good astrologer in the coming.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Brilliant Point !!! There is a saying in English:

>

> " Dont Wrestle with a Pig, You will get Dirty and the Pig Loves it " .

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

> PS: I am not calling any one a pig. The word is just used as an

euphemism.

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Friday, July 24, 2009 9:51:01 AM

> Re: [VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha of

Lagadha

>

>

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Because one community says that the Temple was not there , but it was

> the Babri Masjid over there, does not make it the truth, because every

> kid in India going to school knows when this community came into

India,

> and they were not there before. So if one puts a claim of a Masjid in

> that area in last 1000 years, another can put a claim of a temple

before

> that for the previous 2000 years before that. Who is going in the past

> to check this, record it in a camera and come back to us ?

>

> Similiarly what does it matter to Amitabh Bacchan if someone says that

> he copies DilipKumars acting ? Does it matter to him ? Does he care ?

Is

> he interested ? I dont think so.

>

> In same way it does not matter to us what others think in this matter,

> that we have learnt from the Greeks. This does not make it the truth.

>

> What the terrorists call their soldiers as " Jehadis " for us they

remain

> traitors and terrorusts.

>

> Who is AKK or those who are discussing profusely with him ? Are they

> anywhere on the International Horizons to make a difference ? Does

their

> opinions have any say ?

>

> On the contrary are we not giving such people great and continous

> publicity by arguing and discussing with them continously till no end

?

> Or do we wish to be linked with their names and stay on the limelight

> using their shoulders , since we have no other way of staying in the

> limelight? Then its another matter.

>

> I remember clearly that AKK was not a very active figure on these

forums

> a year back. But we have made him famous and a " Somebody " by

continously

> referring to him, talking about him, arguing and discussing one

sidedly

> and presenting our mails related/addressed to him.

>

> If such persons are left alone, then they would fade the natural way.

> But we are igniting the spotlight on such figures and making them

appear

> great by continous exchanges made referring to him.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Bhaskarji,You rightly said QuoteIf such persons are left alone, then they would fade the natural way.UnquoteAt the end of the discourse on tha Bhagavad Gita the Lord asked Arjiuna as to what did Arjuna decide to do. It was upto Arjuna to take his own decision to act or not act. But the Lord had already told that he had already killed them, which means the law of nature will catch up and the Kauravas cannot escape. In case of Kaul also same thing applies . Even if people do not react to his mails he will fade away as is the law of Nature.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar

<bhaskar_jyotish Re: [VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadha Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:51 AM

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

Because one community says that the Temple was not there , but it was

the Babri Masjid over there, does not make it the truth, because every

kid in India going to school knows when this community came into India,

and they were not there before. So if one puts a claim of a Masjid in

that area in last 1000 years, another can put a claim of a temple before

that for the previous 2000 years before that. Who is going in the past

to check this, record it in a camera and come back to us ?

 

Similiarly what does it matter to Amitabh Bacchan if someone says that

he copies DilipKumars acting ? Does it matter to him ? Does he care ? Is

he interested ? I dont think so.

 

In same way it does not matter to us what others think in this matter,

that we have learnt from the Greeks. This does not make it the truth.

 

What the terrorists call their soldiers as "Jehadis" for us they remain

traitors and terrorusts.

 

Who is AKK or those who are discussing profusely with him ? Are they

anywhere on the International Horizons to make a difference ? Does their

opinions have any say ?

 

On the contrary are we not giving such people great and continous

publicity by arguing and discussing with them continously till no end ?

Or do we wish to be linked with their names and stay on the limelight

using their shoulders , since we have no other way of staying in the

limelight? Then its another matter.

 

I remember clearly that AKK was not a very active figure on these forums

a year back. But we have made him famous and a "Somebody" by continously

referring to him, talking about him, arguing and discussing one sidedly

and presenting our mails related/addressed to him.

 

If such persons are left alone, then they would fade the natural way.

But we are igniting the spotlight on such figures and making them appear

great by continous exchanges made referring to him.

 

Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

Thank you for you beautiful email. I take your appreciation as a great honour, especially because you are so sincere, whether you rebuke some one or whether you appreciate some one. Infact being around your writings has been a good spiritual lesson for me. I have learnt not to judge a "book by its cover", to appreciate people who speak their minds, even though it might be difficult to hear the words some times. You have also taught me not to get involved emotionally in the words utterred but to look at the situation objectively and understand the meaning behind those words. When emotion takes a front seat, reason takes a back seat.

 

Regarding me there is not much behind the scenes. What you see is what you get. I come from a tamil brahmin family. My ancestors were all exclusively vedic pundits and very orthodox until my great grandfather. My grand father changed the professions due to dire poverty. My father followed suit and unfortunately since that great Vedic tradition got lost. It is a tragedy in some ways. My great grandfather is very well known pundit in Rig Veda (Rig Veda Vembu Sastri). Here I am without knowing a single Sanskrit word. A tragedy indeed. To rub salt to the wound my grand father was an accomplised astrologer too. My father was not interested and the tradition got broken.You can compare me to the beggar who has been sitting on a pot of Gold his whole LIFE still begging for food.

 

My father spent many years in Kerala as a young man. Hence he had a lot of influence from there. Since his Moon is weak in his chart he was suggested by a Kerala astrolger that he should change his name from Ramachandran to Chandran. And so he did. Hence I have a Kerala last name (but also our food has a lot of Kerala influence due to my fathers fondness towards Kerala customs).

 

I do not place any importance to my educational or intellectual achievements. They are dime a dozen, here today, gone tomorrow. The only thing that I am really proud of is my dedication to my son. I am a dedicated father and a loyal friend. And thanks to this group I am finding more friends and learning more astrology. I have been in the US since 1994. Due to all the expenses dedicated to my son's therapies, I am not able to make the expensive trip back home too often. So yes, 2nd Lord in the 12th house in its enemy sign aspected by Rahu and Saturn and Rahu in my 4H has separated me from my Mother and my Motherland.

 

May be some day I will be able to meet up with my virtual friends on this site, in person. Until that time, I will enjoy your virtual company.

Love and Regards,

 

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:09:15 AM Re: [VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha of Lagadha

Dear Manoj ji,Yes you are right here. We are wasting time when we discuss withnon-entities and try to prove ourselves right.By the way one must learn to say "I Love You" or appreciate oneself, andnormally people do not have the guts to say the former to the women whomthey love, and neither does their EGO allow them to say the latter whenthey must.But not for me. I keep my EGO when necessary in the toes of my Shoes. Iloved your posting in the Jyotish Vidya group very much, and alsoappreciated your take with happiness to my heart- of a astrologer. SinceI do not write much over there, I take the opportunity to address myappreciation here. I do not know who you are and from where, but Youhave the makings of a very good astrologer in the coming.best wishes,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,>> Brilliant Point !!! There is a saying in English:>> "Dont Wrestle with a Pig, You will get Dirty and the Pig Loves it".>> Regards,> -Manoj>> PS: I am not calling any one a pig. The word is just used as aneuphemism.>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, July 24, 2009 9:51:01 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: [VRI] Vedanga Jyotisha

ofLagadha>>>> Dear Friends,>> Because one community says that the Temple was not there , but it was> the Babri Masjid over there, does not make it the truth, because every> kid in India going to school knows when this community came intoIndia,> and they were not there before. So if one puts a claim of a Masjid in> that area in last 1000 years, another can put a claim of a templebefore> that for the previous 2000 years before that. Who is going in the past> to check this, record it in a camera and come back to us ?>> Similiarly what does it matter to Amitabh Bacchan if someone says that> he copies DilipKumars acting ? Does it matter to him ? Does he care ?Is> he interested ? I dont think so.>> In same way it does not matter to us what others think in this matter,> that we have learnt from the Greeks. This

does not make it the truth.>> What the terrorists call their soldiers as "Jehadis" for us theyremain> traitors and terrorusts.>> Who is AKK or those who are discussing profusely with him ? Are they> anywhere on the International Horizons to make a difference ? Doestheir> opinions have any say ?>> On the contrary are we not giving such people great and continous> publicity by arguing and discussing with them continously till no end?> Or do we wish to be linked with their names and stay on the limelight> using their shoulders , since we have no other way of staying in the> limelight? Then its another matter.>> I remember clearly that AKK was not a very active figure on theseforums> a year back. But we have made him famous and a "Somebody" bycontinously> referring to him, talking about him, arguing and discussing

onesidedly> and presenting our mails related/addressed to him.>> If such persons are left alone, then they would fade the natural way.> But we are igniting the spotlight on such figures and making themappear> great by continous exchanges made referring to him.>> Bhaskar.>