Juptier and Venus in a House.

July 27, 2009

All Respected,

Is it true that if venus and jupiter placed together in a house

creates KANGAAL YOG and bad effects to the native.

RGS/Anand Jain

July 27, 2009

Dear Anand jain what is ur real name as ur id is saying a diffrnt name can u quote source of this Yoga ?? also can u tell us the meaning and effect of kangaal Yoga ??if u think it is a bad yoga ,our basics and logics tells other wise sure depending on charts bhava significations can b diffrnt and see avasta of planets toorgrds sunil nair , "swarup1068" <swarup1068 wrote:>> All Respected,> > Is it true that if venus and jupiter placed together in a house > creates KANGAAL YOG and bad effects to the native.> > RGS/Anand Jain>

July 27, 2009

Nair ji,

of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is Anand Swarup

Jain.

I have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and creates

KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am asking this

question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.

RGS/Anand Jain

--- On Mon, 27/7/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.

Monday, 27 July, 2009, 7:31 AM

Dear Anand jain

what is ur real name as ur id is saying a diffrnt name

can u quote source of this Yoga ?? also can u tell us the meaning and effect of

kangaal Yoga ??

if u think it is a bad yoga ,our basics and logics tells other wise

sure depending on charts bhava significations can b diffrnt and see avasta of

planets too

rgrds sunil nair

ancient_indian_ astrology, " swarup1068 " <swarup1068@.

...> wrote:

>

> All Respected,

>

> Is it true that if venus and jupiter placed together in a house

> creates KANGAAL YOG and bad effects to the native.

>

> RGS/Anand Jain

>

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July 27, 2009

Dear Anand jain Ji I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here rgrds sunil nair , Anand Jain <swarup1068 wrote:>> Nair ji,> > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is Anand Swarup Jain.> > I have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.> > RGS/Anand Jain> > > --- On Mon, 27/7/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.> > Monday, 27 July, 2009, 7:31 AM> > Dear Anand jain> > what is ur real name as ur id is saying a diffrnt name > > can u quote source of this Yoga ?? also can u tell us the meaning and effect of kangaal Yoga ??> > if u think it is a bad yoga ,our basics and logics tells other wise> > sure depending on charts bhava significations can b diffrnt and see avasta of planets too> > rgrds sunil nair> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "swarup1068" swarup1068@ ..> wrote:> >> > All Respected,> >> > Is it true that if venus and jupiter placed together in a house> > creates KANGAAL YOG and bad effects to the native.> >> > RGS/Anand Jain> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/>

July 27, 2009

Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,

I could not resist when i saw the thread " Jupiter and Venus in a House " perhaps

you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart

And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants* written

by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus together in any

house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this statement read as Kangaal

Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is specifically to the Aries

Acendants

He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or depth

in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name (Negative

Publicity)

Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133

Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and Married

life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed my destiny

on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my Disha!!:-) But

When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to Leo (my 8H from

Moon) things started improving on a career front even got better till today..

which is something i couldn't able to understand astrologically...

10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...

Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free predictions. If

you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart i can only LEARN

that's the whole idea of sharing..

With regards and respect

Chandu2Chill

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

Dear Anand jain Ji

I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics

if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us

discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here

rgrds sunil nair

> , Anand Jain

> <swarup1068@> wrote:

Nair ji,

of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is

Anand Swarup Jain.

i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and

creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am asking

this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.

RGS/Anand Jain

July 27, 2009

Dear Sunil ji and Anand ji,

If you want an example where Guru and Venus are together in the same house --

then please use the following (my) birth data for discussion based learning:

24.08.1981

6:38 a.m.

Chennai, India

I can provide the facts based on the questions from the members. I am not aware

of the yoga which Mr. Anand is mentioning. In general two strong benefics, guru

and venus, in the same house can be very good for the significations of house

where it is located. Ofcourse, one needs holisitic approach (functional nature

of benefics, aspect, their balas and other planetary influences etc. etc.).

kind regards,

venkat

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Dear Anand jain Ji

>

> I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics

>

> if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let

> us discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> , Anand Jain

> <swarup1068@> wrote:

> >

> > Nair ji,

> >

> > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is

> Anand Swarup Jain.

> >

> > I have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and

> creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am

> asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.

> >

> > RGS/Anand Jain

> >

> > --- On Mon, 27/7/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.

> >

> > Monday, 27 July, 2009, 7:31 AM

> >

> > Dear Anand jain

> >

> > what is ur real name as ur id is saying a diffrnt name

> >

> > can u quote source of this Yoga ?? also can u tell us the meaning and

> effect of kangaal Yoga ??

> >

> > if u think it is a bad yoga ,our basics and logics tells other wise

> >

> > sure depending on charts bhava significations can b diffrnt and see

> avasta of planets too

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " swarup1068 "

> swarup1068@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > All Respected,

> > >

> > > Is it true that if venus and jupiter placed together in a house

> > > creates KANGAAL YOG and bad effects to the native.

> > >

> > > RGS/Anand Jain

> > >

> >

> > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet

> Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

> >

>

July 27, 2009

Dear Chandu2chill ji,

//Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny

this statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it

is specifically to the Aries Acendants//

Again we come across unfounded theories like bhav hani karo jeeva, or karko

bhav nashaye, etc?

And this one does not have any classical backing. Have you heard of any

reference, in any classic which says the two gurus can spell doom for a

native, or for a house?

I do not know why Shri Upadhyay ji has made that statement. But let us

proceed with some method.

Let us collect classic references first for any such dictum.

Now in your case, you must check te following:

Regarding marriage, it is Rahu who is the culprit. Did you get married in

rahu, rahu-mars?

Jupiter is 9L/12L in 11H. So it has to promote dharma, charity, expenses,

etc. and promote 10H as it is placed in 2nd from 10H

It is posited with venus, the 7L, so it will affect venus as 3/6 lord from

7H in an inimical sign. Just a little negative influence, but of a natural

benefic.

The real impact of Jup and venus can be judged when you study the antars,

which is where the planets give their results.

You may check laghu parashari to clear your doubts.

Jup-ven can never give any kangaal yoga as you say!

Regards

Neelam

antars for specific results.

2009/7/27 Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006

>

> Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,

>

> I could not resist when i saw the thread " Jupiter and Venus in a House "

> perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart

>

> And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants*

> written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus

> together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this

> statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is

> specifically to the Aries Acendants

>

> He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or

> depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name

> (Negative Publicity)

>

> Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133

>

> Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and

> Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed

> my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my

> Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to

> Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got

> better till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand

> astrologically...

>

> 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...

>

> Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free

> predictions. If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart

> i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..

>

> With regards and respect

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

> --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Dear Anand jain Ji

>

> I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics

>

> if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us

> discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> Anand Jain

> > <swarup1068@> wrote:

>

> Nair ji,

>

> of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is

> Anand Swarup Jain.

>

> i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and

> creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am

> asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.

>

> RGS/Anand Jain

>

July 27, 2009

Dear chandu ji I hav venus +jup yoga in meena rasi and my 10th L is also venus .( u can see in astro texts the effects of venus in 3rd H exalted for capri lagna or leo 's ) i never had kangal yoga -even i asked clarifications on it with anand jain ji ,my lagna is capri and all my sis or brothers are very well off than me ( my only brother is a national trade union leader of ruling party of india,working in kerala as a central govtmnt employee ( u may agree kerala people is trade union leaders in india generaly other than bengalies ) and only sis is well off ( got a foreign education and was working with space institute of india and later she resigned as she wanted to migrate and hubby is a business man ) and has own eng and construction compny in a foriegn country ( sure jointly owned by husband and she is a house wife than any official position than major share holder ) --all whom i supported for education as my father died long back when i was so young and hence i cud not continue my life like what ever way i liked ) ,evn my family life is gr8 except i am not after any woman ( esp ever since marriage happened,but for ur info my marriage happed very young at the age of 23 as their family insited it and my mother cant afford to loose my wife as daughter in law and still they hav gr8 relationship than me ) as my venus traits is stabilised by jup in own house and venus is exalted and both r in same rasi ( even i am public shy and publicity shy ) and even during my days with cultural progrmmes in dubai ( the place where u stay ) i never appeared in public ( i hav done almost 10 cultural progrmmes in dubai alnasr leisure land during the days of my business as i was a jeweller by profession ) even i hav mars dosha and my mars is in 7th and aspecting my lagna ( it is the reason why i got sudden temper and anger at times where as even the offer frm sony TV to telecast my astro sessions ( as it is all stage managed and not realy happening ---all those question and answer sessions this astrologers does ,as i am against this personaly as even i hav idealism ( as 10th L is with jup --the planet of idealism ,but the producer offered me 2 sessions free frm his pocket as he is also one of my customer and belong to very good family of delhi with good finance stability --this happened long back ) except my wife is slim and ideal weight ( neelam ji and sreenadh ji will vouch for it ) i dont hav any dosha ,sure i never gone tru jup dasa other than sub periods and one of such sub periods was gr8 for me of jup dasa in merc ( suremerc is 9th L too and which the period i lost my father and but made huge money in mercury maha dasa ) i made good money during saddams occupation of Kuwait and during desrt storm period of american re captured kuwait as Gold was only medium of exchange valid in those days than any Gulf currency and i even supplied for candain and brit forces many things .sure for aries lagna venus is not benefic in sense of rishies ( tho jup is a benefic as he is moola trikona in 9th house and it is sag rasi ) planets in 11th house givs good results but we hav to see various other factors also in ur case jup is mrita ( dead ) avasta ,dukhita and Khala and also 22nd drekkan lord frm moon ( mind ) so tell me how a dead planet bestow good results even if it is good functionaly ??As regrds to ur career sat is in exchange with mer in 10th House and in 3rd House ( means ur efforts will fruitify than any thing to do with sudden luck or lottery type ) hope it may clear some of our discussions and u may able to look more clearly the results ,so do u still blv kangaal yoga is operativ in ur chart ( even did any one know what is the meaning of it ,it means skeleton according to sanskrit meaning and i am still waiting for other memebrs to enlighten me with charts and statistics ) rgrds sunil nair sorry if any self praise happened in this mail and i cud not control ,but as i am against it , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,> > I could not resist when i saw the thread "Jupiter and Venus in a House" perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart> > And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants* written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is specifically to the Aries Acendants> > He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name (Negative Publicity)> > Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133> > Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got better till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand astrologically... > > 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...> > Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free predictions. If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..> > With regards and respect> > Chandu2Chill> > > , "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Dear Anand jain Ji> > I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics> > if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , Anand Jain> > <swarup1068@> wrote:> > Nair ji,> > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is> Anand Swarup Jain.> > i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and> creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.> > RGS/Anand Jain>

July 27, 2009

Dear Learned Astrologers,

Here is an example of a person who has Venus and Jupiter in Libra in the 11th

house.

DOB : 8th Sept 1970

POB : Mumbai

TOB : 02.20 pm.

The native is M.S. MCH in UROLOGY. He is doing very well at the moment.

D. D. Trivedi

--- On Mon, 27/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.

Monday, 27 July, 2009, 10:45 PM

Dear Chandu2chill ji,

//Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny

this statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it

is specifically to the Aries Acendants//

Again we come across unfounded theories like bhav hani karo jeeva, or karko

bhav nashaye, etc?

And this one does not have any classical backing. Have you heard of any

reference, in any classic which says the two gurus can spell doom for a

native, or for a house?

I do not know why Shri Upadhyay ji has made that statement. But let us

proceed with some method.

Let us collect classic references first for any such dictum.

Now in your case, you must check te following:

Regarding marriage, it is Rahu who is the culprit. Did you get married in

rahu, rahu-mars?

Jupiter is 9L/12L in 11H. So it has to promote dharma, charity, expenses,

etc. and promote 10H as it is placed in 2nd from 10H

It is posited with venus, the 7L, so it will affect venus as 3/6 lord from

7H in an inimical sign. Just a little negative influence, but of a natural

benefic.

The real impact of Jup and venus can be judged when you study the antars,

which is where the planets give their results.

You may check laghu parashari to clear your doubts.

Jup-ven can never give any kangaal yoga as you say!

Regards

Neelam

antars for specific results.

2009/7/27 Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006@ >

>

> Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,

>

> I could not resist when i saw the thread " Jupiter and Venus in a House "

> perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart

>

> And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants*

> written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus

> together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this

> statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is

> specifically to the Aries Acendants

>

> He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or

> depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name

> (Negative Publicity)

>

> Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133

>

> Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and

> Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed

> my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my

> Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to

> Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got

> better till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand

> astrologically. ..

>

> 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...

>

> Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free

> predictions. If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart

> i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..

>

> With regards and respect

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%

40. com>,

> " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Dear Anand jain Ji

>

> I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics

>

> if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us

> discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40. com>,

> Anand Jain

> > <swarup1068@ > wrote:

>

> Nair ji,

>

> of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is

> Anand Swarup Jain.

>

> i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and

> creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am

> asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.

>

> RGS/Anand Jain

>

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July 28, 2009

Dear Chandu2chill Ji, Neelam Ji, Sunil Ji et All,

I have reproduced that section on Aries Lagan from Saptarishi Magazine that carried Shri Upadhyay Ji's article. I wish these talented authors would explain the principles so we can understand. I feel the fundamental principles are more important so we can derive these results from them.

Aries Ascendant

v When Jupiter Saturn has a relationship of any kind the person becomes a failure, minimum 50 % of the horoscopes power is reduced. Ref Laghu Parasari Shloka No 22 yogaadhyaya. Saturn is 10L (karmesh) and Jupiter is 9L (Bhagyesh).

v Sun or Mars has any relation with Venus, even in signs of Venus â€“ their energies will not be focus oriented.

v Any relation of Ven with Jupiter does not give good results. E.g. Ven in Pisces can give good materialistic success & beautiful wife but quality of marriage life is soâ€so and not so great.

v If Moon is with paap graha it gives good results.

v Moon Rahu together in Trines (5,9 only) gives good results

v Moon Mars in Trines (5,9 only) gives good results

v Moon Saturn in Trines (5,9 only) at times gives good results but they should have no relationship with Jupiter.

v Gajakeshari Yoga (jup moon in quadrant) if it has any relationship with Saturn then it does not give results at all of the Gajakeshari yoga.

v Guru Venus yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or depth in it, this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name (negative publicity).

v Guru Venus together in any house brings hani in bhagya i.e. spoils destiny.

v Ven Neptune together degreecal or even 2â€3 deg aspect, native would have problems of asthma, breathing problem, suffocation, circulation problems in body, sometimes they pass through epilepsy or at times giddinessâ€“this is applicable to all Ascendants. If Ven is 2 deg less than Neptune then the above symptoms will be more visible.

v Uranus & Ven being degreecal in Kendra to each other, then sex scandal or gives bad name sometimes, but the result is extreme. Neptune Ven or Uranus Venus relationship one would often find in charts of film stars.

v Uranus and Ven in Kendra (quadrant) to each other gives abnormal sexual life for all Ascendants but affect more in Aries Ascendant.

v Neptune Venus relationship sometimes gives death in water or fire which means due to non availability of air, basically gives different kind of death at times.

Regards,

-Manoj

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:15:24 AM Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.

Dear Chandu2chill ji,//Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destinythis statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and itis specifically to the Aries Acendants//Again we come across unfounded theories like bhav hani karo jeeva, or karkobhav nashaye, etc?And this one does not have any classical backing. Have you heard of anyreference, in any classic which says the two gurus can spell doom for anative, or for a house?I do not know why Shri Upadhyay ji has made that statement. But let usproceed with some method.Let us collect classic references first for any such dictum.Now in your case, you must check te following:Regarding marriage, it is Rahu who is the culprit. Did you get married inrahu, rahu-mars?Jupiter is 9L/12L in 11H. So it has to promote dharma, charity, expenses,etc. and promote 10H as it is placed in 2nd from

10HIt is posited with venus, the 7L, so it will affect venus as 3/6 lord from7H in an inimical sign. Just a little negative influence, but of a naturalbenefic.The real impact of Jup and venus can be judged when you study the antars,which is where the planets give their results.You may check laghu parashari to clear your doubts.Jup-ven can never give any kangaal yoga as you say!RegardsNeelamantars for specific results.2009/7/27 Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006@ >>>> Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,>> I could not resist when i saw the thread "Jupiter and Venus in a House"> perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart>> And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants*>

written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus> together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this> statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is> specifically to the Aries Acendants>> He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or> depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name> (Negative Publicity)>> Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133>> Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and> Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed> my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my> Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to> Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even

got> better till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand> astrologically. ..>> 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...>> Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free> predictions. If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart> i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..>> With regards and respect>> Chandu2Chill>>>> ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> Dear Anand jain Ji>> I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics>> if u hav some charts other

wise and some thing bad happened to them let us> discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here>> rgrds sunil nair>> > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,> Anand Jain> > <swarup1068@ > wrote:>> Nair ji,>> of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is> Anand Swarup Jain.>> i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and> creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am> asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.>> RGS/Anand Jain>>

>

July 28, 2009

Sh.D.D.Trivedi,

Thanks for the chart. Jupiter and Venus in Libra in 11th house in Sagittarius

lagna chart and aspected by Retrograde and debilitated Saturn in 5th. The

retrograde debilitated planet gives results as exalted planet during its dasha

and bhukti. Jupiter is debilitate in navamsha posited in 7th with retro Mercury,

the 12th lord. Venus is posited in 6th house with Saturn and Rahu in navamsha.

Venus is Gyati karaka In Jaimini. In D/10 chart lagna is Meena, Lagna lord

Jupiter is posited in 11th with 11th L Saturn forming neech bhanga raja yoga.

6th lord Sun is in lagna. All these factor made him urologist and wealthy. In my

opinion only he combination of the two Venus and Jupiter do not make the native

to suffer, but the strength of the planets, avastha, aspect, conjunction,

ownership of the planets and occupation and avastha in Navamsha and varga shapes

the native.

--- On Mon, 7/27/09, dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:

> dushyant trivedi <trivedi20

> Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.

>

> Monday, July 27, 2009, 11:26 PM

> Dear Learned Astrologers,

>

> Here is an example of a person who has Venus and Jupiter in

> Libra in the 11th house.

>

> DOB : 8th Sept 1970

> POB : Mumbai

> TOB : 02.20 pm.

>

> The native is M.S. MCH in UROLOGY. He is doing very well

> at the moment.

>

> D. D. Trivedi

>

> --- On Mon, 27/7/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

> wrote:

>

> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

> Re: Juptier and Venus

> in a House.

>

> Monday, 27 July, 2009, 10:45 PM

>

> Dear Chandu2chill ji,

>

> //Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya

> i.e. Spoils destiny

> this statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr.

> Anand Jain, and it

> is specifically to the Aries Acendants//

>

> Again we come across unfounded theories like bhav hani karo

> jeeva, or karko

> bhav nashaye, etc?

> And this one does not have any classical backing. Have you

> heard of any

> reference, in any classic which says the two gurus can

> spell doom for a

> native, or for a house?

>

> I do not know why Shri Upadhyay ji has made that statement.

> But let us

> proceed with some method.

> Let us collect classic references first for any such

> dictum.

>

> Now in your case, you must check te following:

> Regarding marriage, it is Rahu who is the culprit. Did you

> get married in

> rahu, rahu-mars?

> Jupiter is 9L/12L in 11H. So it has to promote dharma,

> charity, expenses,

> etc. and promote 10H as it is placed in 2nd from 10H

> It is posited with venus, the 7L, so it will affect venus

> as 3/6 lord from

> 7H in an inimical sign. Just a little negative influence,

> but of a natural

> benefic.

>

> The real impact of Jup and venus can be judged when you

> study the antars,

> which is where the planets give their results.

> You may check laghu parashari to clear your doubts.

>

> Jup-ven can never give any kangaal yoga as you say!

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

> antars for specific results.

>

> 2009/7/27 Chandu2chill <nanna_id2006@ >

>

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,

> >

> > I could not resist when i saw the thread " Jupiter and

> Venus in a House "

> > perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my

> chart

> >

> > And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article

> *Secrets of Ascendants*

> > written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same

> i.e. Jup Venus

> > together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e.

> Spoils destiny this

> > statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr.

> Anand Jain, and it is

> > specifically to the Aries Acendants

> >

> > He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life

> which have no dignity or

> > depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the

> same time gives bad name

> > (Negative Publicity)

> >

> > Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133

> >

> > Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's

> worst Personal and

> > Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i

> believe it has changed

> > my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are

> changing but not my

> > Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that

> too when Saturn moved to

> > Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a

> career front even got

> > better till today.. which is something i couldn't able

> to understand

> > astrologically. ..

> >

> > 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...

> >

> > Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking

> for free

> > predictions. If you and any learned members can

> discuss on the subject/chart

> > i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..

> >

> > With regards and respect

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> com<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,

> > " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> > Dear Anand jain Ji

> >

> > I already discussed individual Yoga according to

> basics and Logics

> >

> > if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad

> happened to them let us

> > discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s

> available here

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> com<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40. com>,

> > Anand Jain

> > > <swarup1068@ > wrote:

> >

> > Nair ji,

> >

> > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas

> my name is

> > Anand Swarup Jain.

> >

> > i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a

> house not good and

> > creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to

> me that's why I am

> > asking this question thru learned astrogers of this

> prestigious group.

> >

> > RGS/Anand Jain

> >

>

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> ---

>

July 28, 2009

Respected Sh. Sunil Nair ji,

Thanks for the details of your life. You know that I too have Jupiter and Venus combination in Aries and have gone under tremendous difficulties during the mahadasha of Jupiter. Venus dasha in running. Let us see what is gong to happen. I am having middle income group status at present and satisfied.

I shall be glad if you can give your birth data for academic reasons.

Regards--- On Mon, 7/27/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Juptier and Venus in a House. Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:57 PM

Dear chandu ji I hav venus +jup yoga in meena rasi and my 10th L is also venus .( u can see in astro texts the effects of venus in 3rd H exalted for capri lagna or leo 's ) i never had kangal yoga -even i asked clarifications on it with anand jain ji ,my lagna is capri and all my sis or brothers are very well off than me ( my only brother is a national trade union leader of ruling party of india,working in kerala as a central govtmnt employee ( u may agree kerala people is trade union leaders in india generaly other than bengalies ) and only sis is well off ( got a foreign education and was working with space institute of india and later she resigned as she wanted to migrate and hubby is a business man ) and has own eng and construction compny in a foriegn country ( sure jointly owned by husband and she is a house wife than any official position than major

share holder ) --all whom i supported for education as my father died long back when i was so young and hence i cud not continue my life like what ever way i liked ) ,evn my family life is gr8 except i am not after any woman ( esp ever since marriage happened,but for ur info my marriage happed very young at the age of 23 as their family insited it and my mother cant afford to loose my wife as daughter in law and still they hav gr8 relationship than me ) as my venus traits is stabilised by jup in own house and venus is exalted and both r in same rasi ( even i am public shy and publicity shy ) and even during my days with cultural progrmmes in dubai ( the place where u stay ) i never appeared in public ( i hav done almost 10 cultural progrmmes in dubai alnasr leisure land during the days of my business as i was a jeweller by profession ) even i hav mars dosha and my mars is in 7th and aspecting my

lagna ( it is the reason why i got sudden temper and anger at times where as even the offer frm sony TV to telecast my astro sessions ( as it is all stage managed and not realy happening ---all those question and answer sessions this astrologers does ,as i am against this personaly as even i hav idealism ( as 10th L is with jup --the planet of idealism ,but the producer offered me 2 sessions free frm his pocket as he is also one of my customer and belong to very good family of delhi with good finance stability --this happened long back ) except my wife is slim and ideal weight ( neelam ji and sreenadh ji will vouch for it ) i dont hav any dosha ,sure i never gone tru jup dasa other than sub periods and one of such sub periods was gr8 for me of jup dasa in merc ( suremerc is 9th L too and which the period i lost my father and but made huge money in mercury maha dasa ) i made good money during saddams

occupation of Kuwait and during desrt storm period of american re captured kuwait as Gold was only medium of exchange valid in those days than any Gulf currency and i even supplied for candain and brit forces many things .sure for aries lagna venus is not benefic in sense of rishies ( tho jup is a benefic as he is moola trikona in 9th house and it is sag rasi ) planets in 11th house givs good results but we hav to see various other factors also in ur case jup is mrita ( dead ) avasta ,dukhita and Khala and also 22nd drekkan lord frm moon ( mind ) so tell me how a dead planet bestow good results even if it is good functionaly ??As regrds to ur career sat is in exchange with mer in 10th House and in 3rd House ( means ur efforts will fruitify than any thing to do with sudden luck or lottery type ) hope it may clear some of our discussions and u may able to look more clearly the results ,so do u

still blv kangaal yoga is operativ in ur chart ( even did any one know what is the meaning of it ,it means skeleton according to sanskrit meaning and i am still waiting for other memebrs to enlighten me with charts and statistics ) rgrds sunil nair sorry if any self praise happened in this mail and i cud not control ,but as i am against it , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,> > I could not resist when i saw the thread "Jupiter and Venus in a House" perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart> > And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants* written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr.

Anand Jain, and it is specifically to the Aries Acendants> > He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name (Negative Publicity)> > Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133> > Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got better till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand astrologically... > > 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...> > Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free predictions. If you and any learned

members can discuss on the subject/chart i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..> > With regards and respect> > Chandu2Chill> > > , "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Dear Anand jain Ji> > I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics> > if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , Anand Jain> > <swarup1068@> wrote:> > Nair ji,> > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is> Anand Swarup Jain.> > i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and> creates KANGAAL YOG. The

name of book not remember to me that's why I am asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.> > RGS/Anand Jain>

July 28, 2009

Dear friend,

Shri Chandrasekhar, Shri Sunil Nair Jee, Shri Kursija Jee and others,

Jupiter, venus in any house create some or other sort of obstacles.

The reason being house of obstacle is 6th house.

Taurus ruled by venus is 6th from Dhanus ruled by jupiter and

at the same time pisces ruled by jupiter is 6th counted from libra-

the mooltriona of venus.

So this analysis is based on ownership analysis of planets only.

The astrologicl classic 'Jyotisha Kalpadruma'

explains results of Vimshottari Mahadasa and antardasa of

all planets

on the basis of this type of reasoning.

Regards,

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija

wrote:

>

> Respected Sh. Sunil Nair ji,

> Thanks for the details of your life. You know that I too have Jupiter and

Venus combination in Aries and have gone under tremendous difficulties during

the mahadasha of Jupiter. Venus dasha in running. Let us see what is gong to

happen. I am having middle income group status at present and satisfied.

> I shall be glad if you can give your birth data for academic reasons.

> Regards

>

> --- On Mon, 7/27/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

> Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.

>

> Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:57 PM

>

Dear chandu ji

>

> I hav venus +jup yoga in meena rasi and my 10th L is also venus .( u can see

in astro texts the effects of venus in 3rd H exalted for capri lagna or leo 's )

>

> i never had kangal yoga -even i asked clarifications on it with anand jain ji

,my lagna is capri and all my sis or brothers are very well off than me ( my

only brother is a national trade union leader of ruling party of india,working

in kerala as a central govtmnt employee ( u may agree kerala people is trade

union leaders in india generaly other than bengalies ) and only sis is well off

( got a foreign education and was working with space institute of india and

later she resigned as she wanted to migrate and hubby is a business man ) and

has own eng and construction compny in a foriegn country ( sure jointly owned by

husband and she is a house wife than any official position than major share

holder ) --all whom i supported for education as my father died long back when

i was so young and hence i cud not continue my life like what ever way i liked

) ,evn my family life is gr8 except i am not after any woman ( esp ever since

marriage

> happened,but for ur info my marriage happed very young at the age of 23 as

their family insited it and my mother cant afford to loose my wife as daughter

in law and still they hav gr8 relationship than me ) as my venus traits is

stabilised by jup in own house and venus is exalted and both r in same rasi (

even i am public shy and publicity shy ) and even during my days with cultural

progrmmes in dubai ( the place where u stay ) i never appeared in public ( i

hav done almost 10 cultural progrmmes in dubai alnasr leisure land during the

days of my business as i was a jeweller by profession )

>

> even i hav mars dosha and my mars is in 7th and aspecting my lagna ( it is

the reason why i got sudden temper and anger at times where as even the offer

frm sony TV to telecast my astro sessions ( as it is all stage managed and not

realy happening ---all those question and answer sessions this astrologers

does ,as i am against this personaly as even i hav idealism ( as 10th L is with

jup --the planet of idealism ,but the producer offered me 2 sessions free frm

his pocket as he is also one of my customer and belong to very good family of

delhi with good finance stability --this happened long back )

>

> except my wife is slim and ideal weight ( neelam ji and sreenadh ji will vouch

for it ) i dont hav any dosha ,sure i never gone tru jup dasa other than sub

periods and one of such sub periods was gr8 for me of jup dasa in merc (

suremerc is 9th L too and which the period i lost my father and but made huge

money in mercury maha dasa )

>

> i made good money during saddams occupation of Kuwait and during desrt storm

period of american re captured kuwait as Gold was only medium of exchange valid

in those days than any Gulf currency and i even supplied for candain and brit

forces many things .

>

> sure for aries lagna venus is not benefic in sense of rishies ( tho jup is a

benefic as he is moola trikona in 9th house and it is sag rasi )

>

> planets in 11th house givs good results but we hav to see various other

factors also

>

> in ur case jup is mrita ( dead ) avasta ,dukhita and Khala and also 22nd

drekkan lord frm moon ( mind )

>

> so tell me how a dead planet bestow good results even if it is good

functionaly ??

>

> As regrds to ur career sat is in exchange with mer in 10th House and in 3rd

House ( means ur efforts will fruitify than any thing to do with sudden luck or

lottery type )

>

> hope it may clear some of our discussions and u may able to look more clearly

the results ,so do u still blv kangaal yoga is operativ in ur chart ( even did

any one know what is the meaning of it ,it means skeleton according to sanskrit

meaning and i am still waiting for other memebrs to enlighten me with charts and

statistics )

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> sorry if any self praise happened in this mail and i cud not control ,but as i

am against it

>

> , " Chandu2chill "

<nanna_id2006@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,

> >

> > I could not resist when i saw the thread " Jupiter and Venus in a House "

perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart

> >

> > And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants*

written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus together in

any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this statement read as

Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is specifically to the Aries

Acendants

> >

> > He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or

depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name

(Negative Publicity)

> >

> > Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133

> >

> > Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and

Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed my

destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my

Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to Leo

(my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got better

till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand astrologically...

> >

> > 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...

> >

> > Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free predictions.

If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart i can only LEARN

that's the whole idea of sharing..

> >

> > With regards and respect

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Anand jain Ji

> >

> > I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics

> >

> > if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us

discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > > , Anand Jain

> > > <swarup1068@> wrote:

> >

> > Nair ji,

> >

> > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is

> > Anand Swarup Jain.

> >

> > i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and

> > creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am

asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.

> >

> > RGS/Anand Jain

> >

>

July 28, 2009

Dear Mrityunjay ji,What you've said is the basic principle behind natural friendship between the planets. It is by virtue of this principle that Ven-Jup are inimical to each other, being placed 3/11 and 6/8.

3/11 beig good and 6/8 being harmful.On this basis it has also been said that Jup-ven and ven-jup dashas could be trying periods.The point is whether Jup-ven conjunction can be so harmful as to make it a KANGAAL Yoga!

Is there any chart which shows this yoga working exclusively? Would like to have your views on that.Any Yuti would be both good and bad depending on their lordship and placement. And they are the greatest benefics.

Classics have praised this conjunction. Venus exalts in Jupiter's Sign and in 12H for mesh lagna, the results should be good. In any case, when planets fall in inimical signs, it is not the fault of Yuti. Also, no planet is iimical to Guru.

RegardsNeelam2009/7/28 Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay

Dear friend,

Shri Chandrasekhar, Shri Sunil Nair Jee, Shri Kursija Jee and others,

Jupiter, venus in any house create some or other sort of obstacles.

The reason being house of obstacle is 6th house.

Taurus ruled by venus is 6th from Dhanus ruled by jupiter and

at the same time pisces ruled by jupiter is 6th counted from libra-

the mooltriona of venus.

So this analysis is based on ownership analysis of planets only.

The astrologicl classic 'Jyotisha Kalpadruma'

explains results of Vimshottari Mahadasa and antardasa of

all planets

on the basis of this type of reasoning.

Regards,

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

, " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote:

>

> Respected Sh. Sunil Nair ji,

> Thanks for the details of your life. You know that I too have Jupiter and Venus combination in Aries and have gone under tremendous difficulties during the mahadasha of Jupiter. Venus dasha in running. Let us see what is gong to happen. I am having middle income group status at present and satisfied.

> I shall be glad if you can give your birth data for academic reasons.

> Regards

>

> --- On Mon, 7/27/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

> Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.

>

> Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:57 PM

>

> Dear chandu ji

>

> I hav venus +jup yoga in meena rasi and my 10th L is also venus .( u can see in astro texts the effects of venus in 3rd H exalted for capri lagna or leo 's )

>

> i never had kangal yoga -even i asked clarifications on it with anand jain ji ,my lagna is capri and all my sis or brothers are very well off than me ( my only brother is a national trade union leader of ruling party of india,working in kerala as a central govtmnt employee ( u may agree kerala people is trade union leaders in india generaly other than bengalies ) and only sis is well off ( got a foreign education and was working with space institute of india and later she resigned as she wanted to migrate and hubby is a business man ) and has own eng and construction compny in a foriegn country ( sure jointly owned by husband and she is a house wife than any official position than major share holder ) --all whom i supported for education as my father died long back when i was so young and hence i cud not continue my life like what ever way i liked ) ,evn my family life is gr8 except i am not after any woman ( esp ever since marriage

> happened,but for ur info my marriage happed very young at the age of 23 as their family insited it and my mother cant afford to loose my wife as daughter in law and still they hav gr8 relationship than me ) as my venus traits is stabilised by jup in own house and venus is exalted and both r in same rasi ( even i am public shy and publicity shy ) and even during my days with cultural progrmmes in dubai ( the place where u stay ) i never appeared in public ( i hav done almost 10 cultural progrmmes in dubai alnasr leisure land during the days of my business as i was a jeweller by profession )

>

> even i hav mars dosha and my mars is in 7th and aspecting my lagna ( it is the reason why i got sudden temper and anger at times where as even the offer frm sony TV to telecast my astro sessions ( as it is all stage managed and not realy happening ---all those question and answer sessions this astrologers does ,as i am against this personaly as even i hav idealism ( as 10th L is with jup --the planet of idealism ,but the producer offered me 2 sessions free frm his pocket as he is also one of my customer and belong to very good family of delhi with good finance stability --this happened long back )

>

> except my wife is slim and ideal weight ( neelam ji and sreenadh ji will vouch for it ) i dont hav any dosha ,sure i never gone tru jup dasa other than sub periods and one of such sub periods was gr8 for me of jup dasa in merc ( suremerc is 9th L too and which the period i lost my father and but made huge money in mercury maha dasa )

>

> i made good money during saddams occupation of Kuwait and during desrt storm period of american re captured kuwait as Gold was only medium of exchange valid in those days than any Gulf currency and i even supplied for candain and brit forces many things .

>

> sure for aries lagna venus is not benefic in sense of rishies ( tho jup is a benefic as he is moola trikona in 9th house and it is sag rasi )

>

> planets in 11th house givs good results but we hav to see various other factors also

>

> in ur case jup is mrita ( dead ) avasta ,dukhita and Khala and also 22nd drekkan lord frm moon ( mind )

>

> so tell me how a dead planet bestow good results even if it is good functionaly ??

>

> As regrds to ur career sat is in exchange with mer in 10th House and in 3rd House ( means ur efforts will fruitify than any thing to do with sudden luck or lottery type )

>

> hope it may clear some of our discussions and u may able to look more clearly the results ,so do u still blv kangaal yoga is operativ in ur chart ( even did any one know what is the meaning of it ,it means skeleton according to sanskrit meaning and i am still waiting for other memebrs to enlighten me with charts and statistics )

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> sorry if any self praise happened in this mail and i cud not control ,but as i am against it

>

> , " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,

> >

> > I could not resist when i saw the thread " Jupiter and Venus in a House " perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart

> >

> > And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants* written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is specifically to the Aries Acendants

> >

> > He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name (Negative Publicity)

> >

> > Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133

> >

> > Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got better till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand astrologically...

> >

> > 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...

> >

> > Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free predictions. If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..

> >

> > With regards and respect

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> > , " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Anand jain Ji

> >

> > I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics

> >

> > if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > > , Anand Jain

> > > <swarup1068@> wrote:

> >

> > Nair ji,

> >

> > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is

> > Anand Swarup Jain.

> >

> > i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and

> > creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.

> >

> > RGS/Anand Jain

> >

>

July 28, 2009

Yes sir,

if i am not mistaken i remember reading in sri K.N.Rao ji's book also he mentions the periods of jup-ven and ven-jup are troublesome.........

regards,

gopi. , "Mrutyunjay Tripathy" <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:>> Dear friend,> > Shri Chandrasekhar, Shri Sunil Nair Jee, Shri Kursija Jee and others,> > > Jupiter, venus in any house create some or other sort of obstacles.> > The reason being house of obstacle is 6th house.> > Taurus ruled by venus is 6th from Dhanus ruled by jupiter and> > at the same time pisces ruled by jupiter is 6th counted from libra- > > the mooltriona of venus.> > So this analysis is based on ownership analysis of planets only.> > The astrologicl classic 'Jyotisha Kalpadruma'> > explains results of Vimshottari Mahadasa and antardasa of > > all planets > > on the basis of this type of reasoning.> > Regards,> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy> > > > , "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sh. Sunil Nair ji,> > Thanks for the details of your life. You know that I too have Jupiter and Venus combination in Aries and have gone under tremendous difficulties during the mahadasha of Jupiter. Venus dasha in running. Let us see what is gong to happen. I am having middle income group status at present and satisfied.> > I shall be glad if you can give your birth data for academic reasons.> > Regards> > > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Re: Juptier and Venus in a House.> > > > Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:57 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear chandu ji > > > > I hav venus +jup yoga in meena rasi and my 10th L is also venus .( u can see in astro texts the effects of venus in 3rd H exalted for capri lagna or leo 's ) > > > > i never had kangal yoga -even i asked clarifications on it with anand jain ji ,my lagna is capri and all my sis or brothers are very well off than me ( my only brother is a national trade union leader of ruling party of india,working in kerala as a central govtmnt employee ( u may agree kerala people is trade union leaders in india generaly other than bengalies ) and only sis is well off ( got a foreign education and was working with space institute of india and later she resigned as she wanted to migrate and hubby is a business man ) and has own eng and construction compny in a foriegn country ( sure jointly owned by husband and she is a house wife than any official position than major share holder ) --all whom i supported for education as my father died long back when i was so young and hence i cud not continue my life like what ever way i liked ) ,evn my family life is gr8 except i am not after any woman ( esp ever since marriage> > happened,but for ur info my marriage happed very young at the age of 23 as their family insited it and my mother cant afford to loose my wife as daughter in law and still they hav gr8 relationship than me ) as my venus traits is stabilised by jup in own house and venus is exalted and both r in same rasi ( even i am public shy and publicity shy ) and even during my days with cultural progrmmes in dubai ( the place where u stay ) i never appeared in public ( i hav done almost 10 cultural progrmmes in dubai alnasr leisure land during the days of my business as i was a jeweller by profession ) > > > > even i hav mars dosha and my mars is in 7th and aspecting my lagna ( it is the reason why i got sudden temper and anger at times where as even the offer frm sony TV to telecast my astro sessions ( as it is all stage managed and not realy happening ---all those question and answer sessions this astrologers does ,as i am against this personaly as even i hav idealism ( as 10th L is with jup --the planet of idealism ,but the producer offered me 2 sessions free frm his pocket as he is also one of my customer and belong to very good family of delhi with good finance stability --this happened long back ) > > > > except my wife is slim and ideal weight ( neelam ji and sreenadh ji will vouch for it ) i dont hav any dosha ,sure i never gone tru jup dasa other than sub periods and one of such sub periods was gr8 for me of jup dasa in merc ( suremerc is 9th L too and which the period i lost my father and but made huge money in mercury maha dasa ) > > > > i made good money during saddams occupation of Kuwait and during desrt storm period of american re captured kuwait as Gold was only medium of exchange valid in those days than any Gulf currency and i even supplied for candain and brit forces many things .> > > > sure for aries lagna venus is not benefic in sense of rishies ( tho jup is a benefic as he is moola trikona in 9th house and it is sag rasi ) > > > > planets in 11th house givs good results but we hav to see various other factors also > > > > in ur case jup is mrita ( dead ) avasta ,dukhita and Khala and also 22nd drekkan lord frm moon ( mind ) > > > > so tell me how a dead planet bestow good results even if it is good functionaly ??> > > > As regrds to ur career sat is in exchange with mer in 10th House and in 3rd House ( means ur efforts will fruitify than any thing to do with sudden luck or lottery type ) > > > > hope it may clear some of our discussions and u may able to look more clearly the results ,so do u still blv kangaal yoga is operativ in ur chart ( even did any one know what is the meaning of it ,it means skeleton according to sanskrit meaning and i am still waiting for other memebrs to enlighten me with charts and statistics ) > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > sorry if any self praise happened in this mail and i cud not control ,but as i am against it > > > > > > > > > > , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,> > > > > > I could not resist when i saw the thread "Jupiter and Venus in a House" perhaps you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart> > > > > > And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants* written by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is specifically to the Aries Acendants> > > > > > He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or depth in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name (Negative Publicity)> > > > > > Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133> > > > > > Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed my destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to Leo (my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got better till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand astrologically... > > > > > > 10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...> > > > > > Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free predictions. If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart i can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..> > > > > > With regards and respect> > > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > > > > > > , "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > Dear Anand jain Ji> > > > > > I already discussed individual Yoga according to basics and Logics> > > > > > if u hav some charts other wise and some thing bad happened to them let us discuss it and mind it there is no prediction s available here> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > , Anand Jain> > > > <swarup1068@> wrote:> > > > > > Nair ji,> > > > > > of course, my id is swarup middle name of mine whereas my name is> > > Anand Swarup Jain.> > > > > > i have read some where that jupiter and venus in a house not good and> > > creates KANGAAL YOG. The name of book not remember to me that's why I am asking this question thru learned astrogers of this prestigious group.> > > > > > RGS/Anand Jain> > >> >>

July 28, 2009

Dear Neelam Ji,

Thank you so much for your valuable inputs and educative post as usual..

//Now in your case, you must check te following:

Regarding marriage, it is Rahu who is the culprit. Did you get married in rahu,

rahu-mars?//

As per Lahiri Ayanmsa

YES, Marriage took place in Rahu-Mars-Venus period only!!

//The real impact of Jup and venus can be judged when you study the antars,

which is where the planets give their results. You may check laghu parashari to

clear your doubts.//

Sure, ever since this marriage took place i started observing these planets

movements closely and trying to learn and understand.. even Ashtottari Dasha

patterns as well, since someone told me due to Amavasya Day birth this Dasha is

also of significant for me...

It is really good progess (Astrology study) so far.... meanwhile i have started

studying other's charts (close relatives/friends) and sharing and helping them

to a little extent which is exceting for them and me as well:-) All credit goes

to learned people like you and many more here in AIA...

Thank you once again

With regards and respect

Chandu2Chill

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

Dear Chandu2chill ji,

//Jup Venus together in any house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this

statement read as Kangaal Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is

specifically to the Aries Acendants//

Again we come across unfounded theories like bhav hani karo jeeva, or karko bhav

nashaye, etc? And this one does not have any classical backing. Have you heard

of any reference, in any classic which says the two gurus can spell doom for a

native, or for a house?

I do not know why Shri Upadhyay ji has made that statement. But let us

proceed with some method. Let us collect classic references first for any such

dictum.

Now in your case, you must check te following:

Regarding marriage, it is Rahu who is the culprit. Did you get married in rahu,

rahu-mars?

Jupiter is 9L/12L in 11H. So it has to promote dharma, charity, expenses, etc.

and promote 10H as it is placed in 2nd from 10H

It is posited with venus, the 7L, so it will affect venus as 3/6 lord from 7H in

an inimical sign. Just a little negative influence, but of a natural benefic.

The real impact of Jup and venus can be judged when you study the antars, which

is where the planets give their results. You may check laghu parashari to clear

your doubts.

Jup-ven can never give any kangaal yoga as you say!

Regards

Neelam

Dear Shri Sunil Nair Ji,

I could not resist when i saw the thread " Jupiter and Venus in a House " perhaps

you may be aware i have Jup+ Ven combo...in my chart

And i also read in Saptarishi Magzine an article *Secrets of Ascendants* written

by Shri Ashok Upadhaya. He also echo the same i.e. Jup Venus together in any

house brings hani to Bhagya i.e. Spoils destiny this statement read as Kangaal

Yoga as mentioned by Mr. Anand Jain, and it is specifically to the Aries

Acendants

He says...Guru Shukra yoga in those areas of life which have no dignity or depth

in it this yoga will give glamour but at the same time gives bad name (Negative

Publicity)

Ref: Saptarishis Astrology Mag Vol 4 Page No# 133

Now coming to my chart and experience i so far it's worst Personal and

Married life wise WHEN JUP DASHA started. litterly i believe it has changed my

destiny on a funny note i would say only Dashas are changing but not my

Disha!!:-) But When Jup-Sat period started and that too when Saturn moved to Leo

(my 8H from Moon) things started improving on a career front even got better

till today.. which is something i couldn't able to understand astrologically...

10th Feb 1975. 10:47 AM POB: Nargund...

Please don't blame me and jump on me that, i am asking for free

predictions. If you and any learned members can discuss on the subject/chart i

can only LEARN that's the whole idea of sharing..

With regards and respect

Chandu2Chill

July 28, 2009

dear learned members,

I am posting the chart details where the native a makara lagna has

jup and venus in lagna.

dob :feb 22nd 1973

time 4.50 am place : vellore.

the native has only one elder sister and the difference of age between him and his

sister is 14yrs approx. His parents are no more ( they passed away 2yrs back).

His sister doesnt have cordial relationship with him maybe due to debilitation of

3rd lord Jup in lagna.

.. The native could not get stabilised in a job till the 2005. now he is working in singapore as aircraft technician for the last 4yrs though the job is a contractual. He considers himself as unlucky and he is yet to get himself married. financially he is strong as of now. aspect of neecha jup and venus on his 7th house along with mars from the 12th is

causing considerable delay in his marriage.

good wishes,

k.gopu--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Juptier and Venus in a House. Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:55 AM