Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear All, It seems that Sanjay Rath (and his SJC) and PVR has parted ways to an extend. It is sad state of affairs and I feel compassionate for PVR ji - his contribution to astrology as JHora software is invaluable and incomparable. It is sad to see such an individual facing such humiliation. I have a good regard for Sanjay Rath as well for his contribution to astrology, but it was the availablity of JHora program that helped him much in spreading astrology and creating the new system - may be he should not forget this basic commitment. Anyway, this is something happening somewhere else, but its value as an astrological news, for astrological fraternity cannot be denied. Whether they unite or part, I will be much happy if their contribution to astrology continues to bestow. Love and regards,Sreenadhsohamsa , "Narasimha Rao" <pvr wrote:Pranaam Sanjay, Thanks for your mail. Please feel free to take the decisions that seem appropriate and I will take them as your blessings. My impression was that the role of chairman was consultative and president executive. I am sorry if I did not fulfil any responsibility that was mine in your mind. Because you normally decide who should become a guru at SJC, I never intended to interfere or make any rules on the guru policy. That seems to be the sticking point below. My faith in the teachings of SJC, my reservations and the reasons have already been clarified on sohamsa. I do have faith in Lord Jagannath and the teachings of rishis. Best regards,Narasimhasohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@ wrote:>> Dear Deepak Bharadwaj and all others interested in SJC affairs and those of SoHamsa,> > > > I have been very inactive with SJC affairs for the last three years and have been getting a number of complaints and suggestions about the way it has been functioning. Here are some points â€"> > > > Quote: “may be you have not read the other name Maja and Bojan and Branka..they people as just new not less then year but very new .. thik about barnka (sorry) .. she joined astrology three year back and in this time she got married blessed with child ....she is entitled As guru even after this much personal commitment(mean where is time for astrology)â€> > Answer: The Jaimini Scholar Program is being organised and monitored personally by me for the first group. In due course all these teachings will be published for the benefit of society and astrologers. It is this group which has made great sacrifices and commitments ain being in the Himalayas year after year for about 30 days or more each time. This year we could finish only Pada 1 & 2 of AdhyÄya 3 in 30 days! That’s working from 8 am to 6 pm every day, with 2 holidays. Branka has been among the oldest and best students of Zoran, who is her jyotiá¹£a guru. Visti is her spouse. Just because someone does not have time to write to email lists does not mean that they do not know jyotiá¹£a. Try Branka anytime and I can vouch for her ability.> > As regards Bojan and other students of Visti in the first year, they may have studied Jaimini Scholar program, but I have not yet signed their certificate that ‘qualifies them to teach’ the sutras and they should first focus on learning the four years and develop some expertise. I am first teaching the sutras then I will develop a method of testing the students of the first Jaimini Scholar group. That is required to maintain quality.> > > > Quote: “There is not objection of earning money after all every body need food.; but i am against unqualified guru. i personaly respect sanjay ji knowldge and dedication there is no doubt about that ......... if you talk about internet spreading of joytish then these are "breeding tanks " noting else... tell me how many indian people has been annoused as A guru in last three year in SJC campare to other country.. just go behind the mirror... this is my last mail i just want to ask sanjay ji to maintain some code for an astrolger who can act as a guru..â€> > Answer: Narasiá¹ha was made the Chairman of ÅšrÄ« Jagannath Center in 2005 and all decisions to hold conferences, appoint jyotiá¹£a gurus and other things have been the responsibility of the chairman. I think he has failed in this aspect as he has not bothered at all about SJC.> > > > It has been my mistake to desire that PVR Narasiá¹ha should be the Chairman of SJC. He has no faith in its teachings and has systematically axed anything and everything that leads to faith and growth in an organisation. It was my mistake to choose on the basis of astro knowledge instead of faith in Jagannath Mahaprabhu as the first requirement. I think the time has come when PVR Narasiá¹ha and SJC have to part ways. > > > > I also think that there are too many *SJC Centers* which are busy teaching things which are far away from the simple teachings of SJC and these should be shut down. > > > > I will take some remedial steps from today. I call on all those who have faith in Jagannath Krishna to come forward and write to me privately with suggestions, including any name of a person who they feel has faith in Jagannath to lead SJC as its Chairman.> > > > Thank you for your comments> > Sanjay Rath>--- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Sreenadhji, Yes this is indeed a sad state of affairs. When the Big Ones part, it creates a sense of gloom over the onlookers like us. Togetherness is strength. Division is not much so. But this is the way of Life. I just wish the partings must be done graciously in such cases where reputed names are involved, instead of public condemnations. regards/Bhaskar. , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > It seems that Sanjay Rath (and his SJC) and PVR has parted ways to an > extend. It is sad state of affairs and I feel compassionate for PVR ji > - his contribution to astrology as JHora software is invaluable and > incomparable. It is sad to see such an individual facing such > humiliation. I have a good regard for Sanjay Rath as well for his > contribution to astrology, but it was the availablity of JHora program > that helped him much in spreading astrology and creating the new system > - may be he should not forget this basic commitment. > Anyway, this is something happening somewhere else, but its value as > an astrological news, for astrological fraternity cannot be > denied. Whether they unite or part, I will be much happy if their > contribution to astrology continues to bestow. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > sohamsa , " Narasimha Rao " pvr@ wrote: > > Pranaam Sanjay, > > Thanks for your mail. Please feel free to take the decisions that seem > appropriate and I will take them as your blessings. > > My impression was that the role of chairman was consultative and > president executive. I am sorry if I did not fulfil any responsibility > that was mine in your mind. > > Because you normally decide who should become a guru at SJC, I never > intended to interfere or make any rules on the guru policy. That seems > to be the sticking point below. > > My faith in the teachings of SJC, my reservations and the reasons have > already been clarified on sohamsa. I do have faith in Lord Jagannath and > the teachings of rishis. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " sanjayrath@ wrote: > > > > Dear Deepak Bharadwaj and all others interested in SJC affairs and > those of SoHamsa, > > > > > > > > I have been very inactive with SJC affairs for the last three years > and have been getting a number of complaints and suggestions about the > way it has been functioning. Here are some points †" > > > > > > > > Quote: “may be you have not read the other name Maja and Bojan > and Branka..they people as just new not less then year but very new .. > thik about barnka (sorry) .. she joined astrology three year back and in > this time she got married blessed with child ....she is entitled As guru > even after this much personal commitment(mean where is time for > astrology)†> > > > Answer: The Jaimini Scholar Program is being organised and monitored > personally by me for the first group. In due course all these teachings > will be published for the benefit of society and astrologers. It is this > group which has made great sacrifices and commitments ain being in the > Himalayas year after year for about 30 days or more each time. This year > we could finish only Pada 1 & 2 of AdhyÄya 3 in 30 days! > That’s working from 8 am to 6 pm every day, with 2 holidays. > Branka has been among the oldest and best students of Zoran, who is her > jyotiá¹£a guru. Visti is her spouse. Just because someone does not > have time to write to email lists does not mean that they do not know > jyotiá¹£a. Try Branka anytime and I can vouch for her ability. > > > > As regards Bojan and other students of Visti in the first year, they > may have studied Jaimini Scholar program, but I have not yet signed > their certificate that ‘qualifies them to teach’ the > sutras and they should first focus on learning the four years and > develop some expertise. I am first teaching the sutras then I will > develop a method of testing the students of the first Jaimini Scholar > group. That is required to maintain quality. > > > > > > > > Quote: “There is not objection of earning money after all > every body need food.; but i am against unqualified guru. i personaly > respect sanjay ji knowldge and dedication there is no doubt about that > ......... if you talk about internet spreading of joytish then these are > " breeding tanks " noting else... tell me how many indian people has been > annoused as A guru in last three year in SJC campare to other country.. > just go behind the mirror... this is my last mail i just want to ask > sanjay ji to maintain some code for an astrolger who can act as a > guru..†> > > > Answer: Narasiá¹ha was made the Chairman of ÅšrÄ« > Jagannath Center in 2005 and all decisions to hold conferences, appoint > jyotiá¹£a gurus and other things have been the responsibility of the > chairman. I think he has failed in this aspect as he has not bothered at > all about SJC. > > > > > > > > It has been my mistake to desire that PVR Narasiá¹ha should be > the Chairman of SJC. He has no faith in its teachings and has > systematically axed anything and everything that leads to faith and > growth in an organisation. It was my mistake to choose on the basis of > astro knowledge instead of faith in Jagannath Mahaprabhu as the first > requirement. I think the time has come when PVR Narasiá¹ha and SJC > have to part ways. > > > > > > > > I also think that there are too many *SJC Centers* which are busy > teaching things which are far away from the simple teachings of SJC and > these should be shut down. > > > > > > > > I will take some remedial steps from today. I call on all those who > have faith in Jagannath Krishna to come forward and write to me > privately with suggestions, including any name of a person who they feel > has faith in Jagannath to lead SJC as its Chairman. > > > > > > > > Thank you for your comments > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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