Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AMvedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do,please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb 3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of the Bhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love, Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (the advent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start of the Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior to his giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do, please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AMvedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do,please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Dear Swee, No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit. Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: "Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that,"On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth." Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb 3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of the Bhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love, Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (the advent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start of the Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior to his giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do, please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Monday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit. Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: " Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that, " On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth. " Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AMvedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do,please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Dear Swee, The same thing appears in Canto 11 Chapter 6 (25) in translation of Shrimad Bhagavatam by Shri Prabhaupad. The translation runs like this: "O Supreme Personality of Godhead, O my Lord, You have descended into the Yadu dynasty, and thus You have spent one hundred twenty-five autumns with Your devotees." The link to site, if you want a quick reference, is : http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto11/chapter6.html#Text%2025 Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Monday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit. Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: "Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that,"On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth." Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb 3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of the Bhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love, Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (the advent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start of the Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior to his giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do, please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Did you refer to your hard copy of the Vishnu Purana? The Srimad Bhagavatam collection I have are 30 books in 10 cantos. I am told this is the complete collection. Does anyone else have the same collection? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:54 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, The same thing appears in Canto 11 Chapter 6 (25) in translation of Shrimad Bhagavatam by Shri Prabhaupad. The translation runs like this: " O Supreme Personality of Godhead, O my Lord, You have descended into the Yadu dynasty, and thus You have spent one hundred twenty-five autumns with Your devotees. " The link to site, if you want a quick reference, is : http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto11/chapter6.html#Text%2025 Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Monday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit. Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: " Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that, " On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth. " Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AMvedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do,please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Can you tell me the name of the chapter in Vishnu Purana that you are referring to? The chapterization in my book is very different. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Did you refer to your hard copy of the Vishnu Purana? The Srimad Bhagavatam collection I have are 30 books in 10 cantos. I am told this is the complete collection. Does anyone else have the same collection? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharTuesday, January 31, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,The same thing appears in Canto 11 Chapter 6 (25) in translation of Shrimad Bhagavatam by Shri Prabhaupad. The translation runs like this: "O Supreme Personality of Godhead, O my Lord, You have descended into the Yadu dynasty, and thus You have spent one hundred twenty-five autumns with Your devotees."The link to site, if you want a quick reference, is : http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto11/chapter6.html#Text%2025Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharMonday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit.Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: "Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that,"On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth."Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharSunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him.Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharSaturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings.Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharWednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga.Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AMvedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do,please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste Thank goodness you can spare sometime. Initially, I referred to Book 5 Chapter 38 and then later, was told that it is Book 4 Chapter 24. I have 2 different versions: Baroda University and Parimal Publishers. Love, Swee p/s Did you receive my personal message to you wrt storing the ghee at your place until I return in March? A friend is leaving next week for Delhi. On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:17 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mahabharata War Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Can you tell me the name of the chapter in Vishnu Purana that you are referring to? The chapterization in my book is very different. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:26 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Did you refer to your hard copy of the Vishnu Purana? The Srimad Bhagavatam collection I have are 30 books in 10 cantos. I am told this is the complete collection. Does anyone else have the same collection? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:54 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, The same thing appears in Canto 11 Chapter 6 (25) in translation of Shrimad Bhagavatam by Shri Prabhaupad. The translation runs like this: " O Supreme Personality of Godhead, O my Lord, You have descended into the Yadu dynasty, and thus You have spent one hundred twenty-five autumns with Your devotees. " The link to site, if you want a quick reference, is : http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto11/chapter6.html#Text%2025 Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Monday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit. Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: " Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that, " On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth. " Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AM< FONT face= " Courier New " color=black size=2>vedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3 137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do, please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Can you please check the name of the chapter you are referring to? The numbering is different in my version. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:42 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mahabharata War Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste Thank goodness you can spare sometime. Initially, I referred to Book 5 Chapter 38 and then later, was told that it is Book 4 Chapter 24. I have 2 different versions: Baroda University and Parimal Publishers. Love, Swee p/s Did you receive my personal message to you wrt storing the ghee at your place until I return in March? A friend is leaving next week for Delhi. On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarWednesday, February 01, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mahabharata War Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Can you tell me the name of the chapter in Vishnu Purana that you are referring to? The chapterization in my book is very different. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Did you refer to your hard copy of the Vishnu Purana? The Srimad Bhagavatam collection I have are 30 books in 10 cantos. I am told this is the complete collection. Does anyone else have the same collection? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharTuesday, January 31, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,The same thing appears in Canto 11 Chapter 6 (25) in translation of Shrimad Bhagavatam by Shri Prabhaupad. The translation runs like this: "O Supreme Personality of Godhead, O my Lord, You have descended into the Yadu dynasty, and thus You have spent one hundred twenty-five autumns with Your devotees."The link to site, if you want a quick reference, is : http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto11/chapter6.html#Text%2025Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharMonday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit.Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: "Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that,"On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth."Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharSunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him.Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharSaturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings.Love,Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of ChandrashekharWednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee,Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga.Chandrashekhar.Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AM< FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2>vedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3 137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do, please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Dear Swee, I shall refer to my copy of Vishnu Purana. I had made notes, long back, in a file and sent you the same. The Shrimad Bhagavatam canto and details are from Hare Krishna people site. It appears there are 12 cantos in all. Here is the link for quick reference. http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/contents.html Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Did you refer to your hard copy of the Vishnu Purana? The Srimad Bhagavatam collection I have are 30 books in 10 cantos. I am told this is the complete collection. Does anyone else have the same collection? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:54 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, The same thing appears in Canto 11 Chapter 6 (25) in translation of Shrimad Bhagavatam by Shri Prabhaupad. The translation runs like this: "O Supreme Personality of Godhead, O my Lord, You have descended into the Yadu dynasty, and thus You have spent one hundred twenty-five autumns with Your devotees." The link to site, if you want a quick reference, is : http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto11/chapter6.html#Text%2025 Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Monday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit. Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: "Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that,"On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth." Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat, Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb 3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of the Bhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love, Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu Astrology Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (the advent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start of the Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior to his giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do, please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, chaturthaMshaH (Book IV) ; catuviá¹Å›o'dhyÄya; (kalikÄlasithata ná¹›pÄṇÄá¹ kalidharmasya ca parṇanam| rÄjacaá¹Å›avarṇanopasaá¹hÄraÅ›ca) My 2 copies stops at sloka 77. I am being referred to Sri Krsna leaving earth when he was 125 in slokas 109 – 113 The next one, which I got from a website with some nebulous reference, but which I found in the V.P. is Book 5: Äá¹£á¹atriá¹Å›o'dhyÄyaḥ (Chapter 38) (yÄdavÄnÄmantyeá¹£á¹isaá¹rakÄraḥ , parÄ«ká¹£ito rÄjyÄbhiá¹£ekaḥ ; pÄṇá¸avÄnÄá¹ vanagamanañja Later, in the same chapter, we are told that the other lived for sometime before the deluge set in. Which is my other question: Dis Kali Yuga begin immediately after Krishna’s passing? I am actually looking for the start of the Mahabharata War K any chance in good leads/referencing would be most welcome. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:47 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mahabharata War Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Can you please check the name of the chapter you are referring to? The numbering is different in my version. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:42 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mahabharata War Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste Thank goodness you can spare sometime. Initially, I referred to Book 5 Chapter 38 and then later, was told that it is Book 4 Chapter 24. I have 2 different versions: Baroda University and Parimal Publishers. Love, Swee p/s Did you receive my personal message to you wrt storing the ghee at your place until I return in March? A friend is leaving next week for Delhi. On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:17 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mahabharata War Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, Can you tell me the name of the chapter in Vishnu Purana that you are referring to? The chapterization in my book is very different. Best Regards, Sarbani Swee Chan [swee] Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:26 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Did you refer to your hard copy of the Vishnu Purana? The Srimad Bhagavatam collection I have are 30 books in 10 cantos. I am told this is the complete collection. Does anyone else have the same collection? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:54 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, The same thing appears in Canto 11 Chapter 6 (25) in translation of Shrimad Bhagavatam by Shri Prabhaupad. The translation runs like this: " O Supreme Personality of Godhead, O my Lord, You have descended into the Yadu dynasty, and thus You have spent one hundred twenty-five autumns with Your devotees. " The link to site, if you want a quick reference, is : http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto11/chapter6.html#Text%2025 Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Both my copies of the Vishnu Purana Book IV Chapter 24 end at verse 77. Can you please check your copy again? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Monday, January 30, 2006 9:21 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, No doubt Rama and Krishna assumed human forms and the calculations and hints given refer to living beings. But BPHS itself mentions human being having life span exceeding the Deerghaayu (120 years). So we are very much talking about the life granted by calculations related to human beings which are not necessarily limited by the 120 years of age limit. Anyway the reference to age of Lord Krishna at the time of his death is found in Vishnu Purana: " Vishnu Puran, Part IV, Chapter 24, Versus 109 and 113, tells us that, " On the day Lord Krishna ascended to His Holy Abode, at the age of 126 lunar years. In Vishnu Puran it is also stated that so long as Bhagwan Shri Krishna was touching this earth with His Lotus Feet, Kali Yug could not put it's foot on the earth. " Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste The Vedas, Mahabharata and Ramayan etc are replete with astronomical equations and answers. Sri Krishna like Sri Rama took human births. Hence I am to understand that the calculations and hints given in those books are related to Living Beings. Else, how do you explain the Pleiades statement from there? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:50 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Yes that could be one explanation. I have read so many books for about 54 of these 60 years of my life, it is sometimes difficult to remember where read that reference of the age of Lord Krishna. I shall try to locate it and send it to you. Again remember that Parashara says that normal human life is 120 years but then he talks about the life of the gods (presumably on earth), Limitless life and so on. So it is not necessary that none can live beyond 120 years. I met Saint Sitaramdasji Maharaj of Mandala who was said to be 175 and some odd years when I met him. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste So what you are saying is that it is 1 yuga (5 years) and 2 samvatsara (60 years x 2 cycles)? The first cycle of the Syamantaka Gem acting as a kavacha, was retrieved by Krishna lasted for 60 years (1 samvatsara) and thereafter, Krishna adorned it on him. Would be good if you can give me the direct referencing for the ayush of 125 years. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:18 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Lord Krishna was born with Purnaavataar Yoga and lived for 125 years. Even Parashara gives yogas for Aayu of more than 120 years. In such yogas one exceeds the age of 120 years given to human beings. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste Ah, I re-read my reply to Bharat and realize that this is what I implied J That the Kali Yuga had to coincide with just after the war. I will need to go through a lot more material to come to anything conclusive. Where did you get the longevity of Krishna? Why not 120 years to coincide with the vimsottari dasa? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Chandrashekhar Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:48 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] RE: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Dear Swee, Beginning of Kaliyuga is said to coincide with death of Lord Krishna. So end of Mahabharata has, perhaps, nothing to do with beginning of Kaliyuga. Lord Krishna is said to have lived for 125 years so adding 125 to the birth of Lord Krishna should indicate beginning of Kaliyuga. Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bharat,Namaste In the Surya Siddhanta notes, it dates the start of Kali Yuga as 17th Feb3102 BC. The war lasted for 18 days which constitutes the 18 chapters of theBhagavat Gita. Where can I find the 35 year info from? Thanks so much. It was nice to meet with you all in Delhi. Love,Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Bharat Hindu AstrologyTuesday, January 24, 2006 9:21 AM< FONT face= " Courier New " color=black size=2>vedic astrology Subject: Re: [vedic astrology] Mahabharata War Namaskaar Sri Swee Krishna has been said to have given up his sharira in the year 3102 BC (theadvent of Kali Yuga). This year is taken by most panchangas as the start ofthe Kali Yuga. It is said that Mahabharata War was fought 35 years prior tohis giving up of his body. This puts the date at 3 137 BC. Please check if the said eclipses occured in that year. Thanks and RegardsBharat/ U7:P> On 1/23/06, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Lists, Namaste Does anyone have the indicative date of the Mahabharata War? If you do,  please give references from the books. Thank you. Love, Swee --Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release 1/20/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear friends, The year 3067 BCE quoted in the Editorial does not correspond to Saturn's position in Visakha during the time of the Mahabharata war. Secondly the date was 35 years after the Lord Krishna's avatara ended in 3102 BCE and so it is absurd.. Thirdly Bhishma died on an Ekadashi and not on Ashtami. The Hindu scholars know that according to Manu's law if a ksatriya dies on Ekadashi his shraddha is to be performed on Ashtami (ie. after observing 12 days' of mourning). Hindus believe that only on the performance of this shraddha that a person sheds his astral body and gets a pitrideha / divyadeha so that the person can go to the pitriloka or devaloka depending on the Karma of that person. . Bhishma also got his divyadeha on the Ashtami tithi and he went to the Vasuloka as he was a Vasu born on the Earth on Vasishtha's curse. According to Hindu astrology the Ashtami tithi is ruled by the Vasus. One can guess whether the date of Shraddha fell on the Ashtami tithi by accident or was it planned by Bhishma. Bhishma's shraddha was perfomed on the Ashtami tithi and even today people give Tarpan to Bhaishma on the Bhishmastami tithi. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Bejoy <bejoy_cs wrote: Bejoy <bejoy_csRe: Mahabharata War Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 2:28 PM http://www.vnn. org/editorials/ ET0003/ET20- 5717.html Looks informative .. Regards Bejoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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