Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Rahul, I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " Believe in yourself. God bless you, sheel --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk wrote: rahul <rahul34uk [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required vedic astrology Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 dear friends apply logic and think rationally. when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28 wrote: > > Dear Rahul, > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > Believe in yourself. > God bless you, > > sheel > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk wrote: > > > rahul <rahul34uk > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > vedic astrology > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Dear Arjunji, I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! And there may be many more similar examples! Pardon my interruption! Kind Regards, Rohiniranjan vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > apply logic and think rationally. > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > vedic astrology , Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rahul, > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > Believe in yourself. > > God bless you, > > > > sheel > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > vedic astrology > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 I shall just add one thing. The principle of Homeopathy was known to the Indians in the past. It was " Visham Vishashya Aushadham " the literal meaning of which is " poison to cure poison " . People probably thought that Ayurvada is a better option as we can do without taking Visha (poison). The principles of Homeopathy is given in the Garuda purana. I have a nagging doubt that Hahnemann had access to the Puranas as the Germans were interested in ancient Indian texts. he modified SKB --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required vedic astrology Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:54 PM Dear Arjunji, I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! And there may be many more similar examples! Pardon my interruption! Kind Regards, Rohiniranjan vedic astrology, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ....> wrote: > > dear friends > > apply logic and think rationally. > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > vedic astrology, Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Rahul, > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > Believe in yourself. > > God bless you, > > > > sheel > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > vedic astrology > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 dear friend true. the adoption of swastika from hindu mythology by germans is a proof of that. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > I shall just add one thing. The principle of Homeopathy was known to the Indians in the past. It was " Visham Vishashya Aushadham " the literal meaning of which is " poison to cure poison " . People probably thought that Ayurvada is a better option as we can do without taking Visha (poison). The principles of Homeopathy is given in the Garuda purana. I have a nagging doubt that Hahnemann had access to the Puranas as the Germans were interested in ancient Indian texts. he modified > > SKB > > --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani > [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > vedic astrology > Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:54 PM > > > > > > > Dear Arjunji, > > I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha > > Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! > > And there may be many more similar examples! > > Pardon my interruption! > > Kind Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > vedic astrology, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ....> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > apply logic and think rationally. > > > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > vedic astrology, Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rahul, > > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > > Believe in yourself. > > > God bless you, > > > > > > sheel > > > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 dear RRji great example of sarpagandha. having spoken on the unison of remedies, i request once again to treat all humans as one species and take remedies as one for all. in india saibaba of shirdi who is a muslim is worshipped mostly if not all by hindus. there are many dargas of muslim peers in india where hindus visit and offer flowers and do prayers daily. many social workers who attend to natural calamities treat humans equally without any religious attachment or supersititon and same are the shelters for all suffering. before branding a coffee and declare whether one likes only cappucino or other fancy italian or mexican name, a native shall realise that coffee is same and names are many. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Arjunji, > > I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha > > Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! > > And there may be many more similar examples! > > Pardon my interruption! > > Kind Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > apply logic and think rationally. > > > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > vedic astrology , Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rahul, > > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > > Believe in yourself. > > > God bless you, > > > > > > sheel > > > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Pandit Arjunji, If you permit me I will like to change the statement slightly. Sai Baba was a sufi and not a Muslim. Sufis are not Muslims. The initiation ceremony of the Sufis is very different from any of the Islamic procedures. Prophet Muhammad had Sufi companions and they are spiritually inclined and the prophet had access to that knowledge but he told his followers that he cannot give that knowledge to them as that is beyond their receptive capacity. He also told his followers to listen to whatever the Sufis say otherwise they will become deaf. This is all in the Sayings of Prophet Muhammad. But most of the Sufis do support Islam. Though all religions are equal to them some of the Sufis even helped to propagate Islam. It is anybody's guess as to why did so. It could also be that their own survival was at stake. Whatever be the reason the Sufis are not Muslims though some Muslims claim that the Sufism is the spiritual side of Islam. Even Dara Shikoh was executed under the easy excuse that he became a heretic by getting initiated into Sufism. It is better thatr we realise what is what. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Fri, 7/31/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required vedic astrology Friday, July 31, 2009, 10:39 PM dear RRji great example of sarpagandha. having spoken on the unison of remedies, i request once again to treat all humans as one species and take remedies as one for all. in india saibaba of shirdi who is a muslim is worshipped mostly if not all by hindus. there are many dargas of muslim peers in india where hindus visit and offer flowers and do prayers daily. many social workers who attend to natural calamities treat humans equally without any religious attachment or supersititon and same are the shelters for all suffering. before branding a coffee and declare whether one likes only cappucino or other fancy italian or mexican name, a native shall realise that coffee is same and names are many. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com vedic astrology, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Arjunji, > > I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha > > Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! > > And there may be many more similar examples! > > Pardon my interruption! > > Kind Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > vedic astrology, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > apply logic and think rationally. > > > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > vedic astrology, Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rahul, > > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > > Believe in yourself. > > > God bless you, > > > > > > sheel > > > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 vedic astrology , Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28 wrote: > > Dear Rahul, > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > Believe in yourself. > God bless you, > > sheel > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk wrote: > > > rahul <rahul34uk > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > vedic astrology > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > Dear, > > friends, you are right. suno mushe ab koe probalam nahi he hum sub freedaum he. hum log sabko co.ordination or co-opration ,helpful manaer se rahete he or esime subki progrss or development he > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Dear Sunil Bhattachearjya ji, It is a cross-posting and the mail contents are not so important. This group generally does not appreciate the practice of cross posting, but is not against it when the mails contain very useful and valuable information. I think you know about this policy of the group better than me. This is not a good practice to cross post messages of one group to another. Whether the concerned person being present in the forum or not, most of the time in such cases, we mis the gist of the thread. In this case Punditji is not writing regularly here so it is not good addressing him here, without his knowledge. It is not a good practice, especially when the content is not very important. Note: By the way if such mails prompts Pt. Arjun ji or similar scholars to write back and provide informative thread in this group itself it would be very good. Arjun ji is a very knowledgeable individual, and his mails informative. But unfortunately he is not actively participating in the group discussions here, for many months. I request him to become active again. Love and regards, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Amen! vedic astrology , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjunji, > > If you permit me I will like to change the statement slightly. Sai Baba was a sufi and not a Muslim. Sufis are not Muslims. The initiation ceremony of the Sufis is very different from any of the Islamic procedures. Prophet Muhammad had Sufi companions and they are spiritually inclined and the prophet had access to that knowledge but he told his followers that he cannot give that knowledge to them as that is beyond their receptive capacity. He also told his followers to listen to whatever the Sufis say otherwise they will become deaf. This is all in the Sayings of Prophet Muhammad. But most of the Sufis do support Islam. Though all religions are equal to them some of the Sufis even helped to propagate Islam. It is anybody's guess as to why did so. It could also be that their own survival was at stake. Whatever be the reason the Sufis are not Muslims though some Muslims claim that the Sufism is the spiritual side of Islam. Even Dara Shikoh was > executed under the easy excuse that he became a heretic by getting initiated into Sufism. It is better thatr we realise what is what. > > > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > --- On Fri, 7/31/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > vedic astrology > Friday, July 31, 2009, 10:39 PM > > > > > > > dear RRji > > great example of sarpagandha. > > having spoken on the unison of remedies, i request once again to treat all humans as one species and take remedies as one for all. > > in india saibaba of shirdi who is a muslim is worshipped mostly if not all by hindus. there are many dargas of muslim peers in india where hindus visit and offer flowers and do prayers daily. > > many social workers who attend to natural calamities treat humans equally without any religious attachment or supersititon and same are the shelters for all suffering. > > before branding a coffee and declare whether one likes only cappucino or other fancy italian or mexican name, a native shall realise that coffee is same and names are many. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > vedic astrology, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Arjunji, > > > > I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha > > > > Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! > > > > And there may be many more similar examples! > > > > Pardon my interruption! > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > vedic astrology, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > apply logic and think rationally. > > > > > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > > > > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > > > > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > > > > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > > > > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > > > > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > > > > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rahul, > > > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > > > Believe in yourself. > > > > God bless you, > > > > > > > > sheel > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Thank you Sreenadhji for the word of caution. Sai Baba is a very reverd personality. I did some studies on the Sufis and I thought I would share my views with the members of the group on that. At that time I did not think that Pandit Arjunji was being challenged by my views. I thank you for pointing that out. My apologies to Pandit Arjunji. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Sat, 8/1/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 6:19 AM Dear Sunil Bhattachearjya ji,It is a cross-posting and the mail contents are not so important. This group generally does not appreciate the practice of cross posting,but is not against it when the mails contain very useful and valuableinformation. I think you know about this policy of the group better thanme.This is not a good practice to cross post messages of one group toanother. Whether the concerned person being present in the forum or not,most of the time in such cases, we mis the gist of the thread. In thiscase Punditji is not writing regularly here so it is not good addressinghim here, without his knowledge. It is not a good practice, especiallywhen the content is not very important.Note: By the way if such mails prompts Pt. Arjun ji or similar scholarsto write back and provide informative thread in this group itself itwould be very good. Arjun ji is a very knowledgeable individual, and hismails informative. But unfortunately he is not actively participating inthe group discussions here, for many months. I request him to becomeactive again.Love and regards,Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Dear Tatvam-Asi,  That is the beauty of Sanskrit. Any Sanskrit scholar will tell you that in Sanskrit the positions of the words can be interchanged.  Sincerely,  Aham-Brahmasmi --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: Tatvam-Asi <nameisego Re: [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required vedic astrology Sunday, August 2, 2009, 5:58 AM  I think it is , " Vishashya visham Aushadham " विषशà¥à¤¯ विषम औषधम (sorry Google indic gives this spelling only) ____________ _________ _________ __ Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @> vedic astrology Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:09:04 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required  I shall just add one thing. The principle of Homeopathy was known to the Indians in the past. It was " Visham Vishashya Aushadham "  the literal meaning of which is  " poison to cure poison " . People probably thought that Ayurvada is a better option as we can do without taking Visha (poison). The principles of Homeopathy is given in the Garuda purana. I have a nagging doubt that Hahnemann had access to the Puranas as the Germans were interested in ancient Indian texts. he modified  SKB --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required vedic astrology Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:54 PM  Dear Arjunji, I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! And there may be many more similar examples! Pardon my interruption! Kind Regards, Rohiniranjan vedic astrology, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ....> wrote: > > dear friends > > apply logic and think rationally. > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > vedic astrology, Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Rahul, > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > Believe in yourself. > > God bless you, > > > > sheel > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > vedic astrology > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 So nice to see that my two Dadas have met! Now the mice may play ;-) vedic astrology , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Tatvam-Asi, >  > That is the beauty of Sanskrit. Any Sanskrit scholar will tell you that in Sanskrit the positions of the words can be interchanged. >  > Sincerely, >  > Aham-Brahmasmi > > --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > > Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > vedic astrology > Sunday, August 2, 2009, 5:58 AM > > >  > > > > I think it is , > " Vishashya visham Aushadham " > विषशà¥à¤¯ विषम ठ" षधम > (sorry Google indic gives this spelling only) > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya @> > vedic astrology > Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:09:04 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > >  > I shall just add one thing. The principle of Homeopathy was known to the Indians in the past. It was " Visham Vishashya Aushadham "  the literal meaning of which is  " poison to cure poison " . People probably thought that Ayurvada is a better option as we can do without taking Visha (poison). The principles of Homeopathy is given in the Garuda purana. I have a nagging doubt that Hahnemann had access to the Puranas as the Germans were interested in ancient Indian texts. he modified >  > SKB > > --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > [vedic astrology] Re: muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > vedic astrology > Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:54 PM > >  > > Dear Arjunji, > > I shall interrupt with just one keyword: sarpagandha > > Emerging from the East, it reigned over the west and east for decades and still is alive and kicking! > > And there may be many more similar examples! > > Pardon my interruption! > > Kind Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > vedic astrology, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ....> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > apply logic and think rationally. > > > > when a person is suffering from a disease, he or she simply goes to a doctor to take a remedy (medicine) to get relief. imagine here medicine as a religion which has various names like allopathy, ayurveda, homeopathy etc. > > > > have always seen countless followers of homeopathy religion who do not like to take english medicines as it is under different religion which they dont follow. they joyously agree to suffer for longer periods than their fellow english medicine followers. anyway sanity comes to play when the suffering is unbearable. > > > > but hypocricy is at its core when the donor developed countries as well as the underdeveloped begging countries all follow the same english medicines in their hospitals treating it as an universal religion. at least humans are civilised in this agreement. > > > > the " ekam sat " is accepted by all religious people for their cure and relief. > > > > most english pills were invented, patented and distributed by american or other christian people from christian countries but these are all bought and used by even the most fundamentalist taliban in afghanistan as well as in saudi and iran and of course in hindu india, nepal and other buddhish countries too. even fundamentalist muslim countries have not banned english medicine. > > > > hindus used to have ayurveda in their religion but have given up as english medicine invented by christians is giving instant relief. similarly unani too was there for muslims in medieval days which is now not in practice. there was even mystic siddha medicine which is not unheard. > > > > remedies are to bring relief and hypocricy shatters when focus on logic. otherwise sufferings force the natives to see the light of reality or truth or sat or god as one. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > vedic astrology, Sheel Kumar <sheelgurjar28@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rahul, > > > I went thru your same querry in other group and also the replies by really learned people. > > > I too have ksy in my chart, but that's not going to relief you. > > > Rahul, I have a suggestion for you. > > > Please understand that God is one and will always remain one. You should go for the remedies instead of concentrating on any religion. It is the relief that we ultimately need. > > > Do tell your friend to have faith in whatever puja she performs for I believe, " vishwasam phal dayakam " > > > Believe in yourself. > > > God bless you, > > > > > > sheel > > > > > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, rahul <rahul34uk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rahul <rahul34uk@> > > > [vedic astrology] muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:19 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > muslim and vedic astrology further information and advice required > > > > > > I posted this last week and got a few replies, i would like more information and opinions from all learned people, just in case you missed my request last time > > > > > > i need advice for a good friend of mine, basically she is a muslim, but has KSY (kal sarp yoga), but she does not want the poojas done in the hindu faith, as she belives that is not having full faith in her religion, which is sin according to islam, she has been to many muslim astrologist but they tell her its blackmagic and they just want lots of money, it there anyone out there who can help her?? she is truely gone thru a bad time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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