The Secret Wisdoms of Jyotish

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Dear friend,

 

In most of the valuable text of religion, philosophy and jyotish,

 

 

the authors declares thieir text

 

to be sacred, secret

 

 

to induce the feeling of sincere urge towards learning.

 

Even BPHS ( all versions)

 

says

 

" the Vidya of Jyotish need not be offered to the disbeliever

 

- which might result in day by day increase in the misery of

 

the guru "

 

the quote is

 

" Na dadayat para shishyaya datte dukha dine dine " .

 

 

Similarly all the Yoga Asanas, Pranayam literatures like

 

'Yoga Vashishta'

 

" Hatha Yoga Pradipika' etc.

 

were till now highly guarded secret

 

untill the courageious and noble minded

 

sage Baba Ram Dev unfolded these secrets before the public

 

for their overall benefit.

 

So dissemination of correct knowledge requires the

 

strength of character

 

and mastery over these knowledge by

 

the native and

 

project/ disseminate these knowledge before public

 

so that

 

the secret knowledge is misused to the minimal.

 

For example Baba Ram Dev Jee teaches us

 

Pranayam for healthy living...

 

 

but seldom He is going to teach the public

 

how to live for Hundered Years

 

without food and water...

 

 

although the same may already be a part of His acquired/ experienced

 

wisdom !

 

 

So masters of the Jaimini System

 

should come forward with disclosure of that

 

much of undisputed and established wisdom

 

within minimal chances of misuse...

 

 

as the secrets of " Hatha Yoga Pradipika " and

 

" Pranayam Rahashya " and " Yoga Vashishta " etc.

 

were demonstrated by Baba Ram Dev Jee before the masses.

 

Only positve contributions to society like Baba Ram Dev

 

can show that we are the true disciple/ learner of our

 

secret wisdoms. Baba Ram Dev never argued over correctness of

 

Asansa or Pranayam technique with anybody.

 

Never quoted classics...to justify his technique.

 

They are open for public. Anyone can replicate them. Test them.

 

Hope lots of positive contirbutions on Jyotish come forward

 

from the reverend Masters/ Disciples of the Jaimini

 

System/ Traditions of Jyotish.

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> Below is an informative post by teli Shanmukha. Please note that he is the

same person who maintains the astrology blog on Jaimini system at:

http://sutramritam.blogspot.com/ He is connected to SJC and Sanjay Rath and is

an Electronics Engineer working in reputed scientific organization in India.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> vedic astrology , teli Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@> wrote:

>

> Om Namah Sivaya

>

> Namaste Sri Narasimha,

>

> Please go through the following.

>

> You Wrote : Though Some people believe that the keys to Jaimini’s cryptic

teachings lie with some secret paramparas, it is a questionable belief.

>

> I beg to differ in this issue. It is not a belief, but a fact. I have ample

references to support that this system has been a secret and I have provided

them in a couple of instances earlier. When Somanatha Mishra writes in his

Kalpalatha that this Jaimini system is a secret one, do you think or understand

that he is lying? If you think so, it is really an indological view. When

Somanatha Mishra writes that the calculation of the rasi dasas was clearly

explained in Mula Sasthra by Kalidasa and Krishna Mishra writes he wrote this

science based on Sarvajna Muni commentary of Jaimini, is it they are lying or

Are we blind enough?. Somanatha or whoever the commentator writes something on

Jaimini and declares this as a Secret science, they mean it and they want to

state the factual issue. You can check out even the very recent commentator like

Durga Prasada Dvivedi, the author of Jaimini Padyamritam, verbally declares the

view of Vriddha Karika on Argala is

> secret. The same is the case with the Raghava Bhatta. So, it is not a belief

but a fact. All these commentators do write to educate and enrich our knowledge,

not to bluff nor wrote for fear of some learned scholar questions their writing

in future.

>

> Before answering and at least considering the points above, declaring at you

will the above things are simple beliefs is regretted.

>

> You wrote: Some more people believe that keys to Jaimini’s cryptic teachings

lie in some commentaries by scholars such as Neelakantha, Raghava Bhatta,

Nrisimha Suri etc. that too a questionable belief. The caliber and reliability

of these not-so-ancient scholars, who came during an interesting period in

Indian astrology and astronomy, is unclear.

>

> Alas, as somebody pointed out, you are axing anything and everything. To judge

one’s caliber and reliability on the basis of their period of existence is

very dogmatic. It is no problem if you try to understand anything with an

independent interpretation. But, if you axe any knowledge on Jaimini to prove

your point is highly questionable. Do believe whatever you want, but don’t

propagate these not so factual issues.

>

> Can you tell me the period of Krishna Mishra or the most ancient literature

available on Jaimini Vaanchanaathiyam? Can you tell me how pious or bad living

they had? Is it somebody becomes not intelligent or great by their period. What

nonsense is this? Do you mean the medieval people are not reliable? In fact, it

is for their invaluable service, we have all these ancient knowledge survived.

They devoted their families to protect the ancient manuscripts to the possible

extent from the non-hindu invaders.

>

> Yes, we all believe and venerate Sage Parasara. Yet, we never know whether the

author of the present available BPHS is the puranic Sage Parasara. Try to find

out the period of Krishna Mishra, who is definitely after Varahamihira as he

declares that he is Raj Jyotish of Vikramaditya, so that we can decide how

ancient he was.

>

> Do you believe if I say there are some commentaries which explain the

applicability of Rasi dasas based on the yoga on the horoscope? Can you show me

the instance in BHPS which explain Rasi dasa applicability? If not how can we

conclude that BPHS is the most reliable and final authority on Jaimini pointers?

As you always points out, we don’t have these many dasas without a purpose. I

agree that PHPS holds valuable information on Astrology, but kindly remember it

as a compendium. The real clue to the Jaimini lies in Bhashyas (commentaries)

not in BPHS. Why Raghava Bhatta interpretation of Arudha Padas and dasa years

and calculation of Hora, Ghatika Lagna endorsed by Nadi work like Chandra Kala

Nadi. And that has been used by scholars in Andhra Pradesh for centuries? Are

they blind to this so called Bible of Astrology BPHS. It is like the famous

dialog in Kanyasulkam play “Anni Vedallone Unnaishaâ€.

>

> One final question. Kindly state, at least according to humble knowledge,

which one is the Parasara authored text from the following list.

>

>

> BPHS compiled by Sitaram Jha

> BPHS compiled by Devaki Chandra Jha

> BPHS compiled by Sridhara Pandita

> PHPS compiled by Ganesha Datta Pathak

> BPHS commented by Girish Chandra Sharma

> BPHS commented by Santaanam and others

> BPHS commented by Madhura Krishna Murthy

>

> Of course, the above list is not comprehensive and do feel free to state if

any other BPHS version, is the real one authored by Sage Parasara.

>

> Why I write all this is for I know how much I respect and believe in you. If I

read your recent views I might someday believe what preach is correct. You have

been and are a most influential person to me and so are to most of students

here.

>

> I end this mail with a note that Jaimini not being cryptic. It is Amrita, the

sacred nectar and if you really try for this you will get it. That’s why my

Guru named his commentary “Jaimini Sutramritamâ€. As long as we long for a

simple honey or sugar cane juice, we never feel the nectar. My personal request

and humble submission to you that please read the other valuable information on

Jaimini along with BPHS to understand this science, else it would be a futile

attempt, however the sincere it be.

>

> Regards,

> Shanmukha

>

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