Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 sohamsa , " Shanmukha " <teli_sha2002 wrote: Sri Ganesaya Namah Namaste Smt. Sarbani Rath, I would have been very much delighted and thankful to you if you would answer " Yes " or " No " to my simple questions rather than supplementing twice to the Freedom's answer. Anyway, I thank you very much for stating your stand/ opinion / view / understanding /perspective or whatever you call it. Now, it looks those 26 scholars only share the perspetive of Sri Sanjay and other may or may not. So, I can take this as the pespective of DBC and I'll withdraw the word SJC. No Problem at all. I end the correspondence on this topic since its becoming views and more views than Astrology. To all other members, I request you all not to get frightened or disheartened with the happenings in the sky. Maharshis are so kind and powerful and their teachings will reach the true knowledge seekers provided they are industrious. I request you all remember Ekalavya episode in the Epic Mahabharata. Even the statue can teach knowledge, if you believe and deserve. That much dedication is need of the hour. Of course, how the knowledge will be used by the disciple is another issue, if misused that will be severed by Lord Krishna as been done to Ekalavya. The God will plan the things and the planets will only impel his plan. As Sri B.V. Raman puts it " Planets only impel not compel. " So, I take all the happenings in the sky on a positive note and move forward with our quest to understand this system. The impediments caused by the planets, persons, traditions etc. all are temporary and God interferes at the right time. The Lord Vishnu sees the Nectar available to the deserved. He will definitely cut those demons; even they had drunk the nectar. It doesn't mean we are helpless, our efforts will be rewarded and God is kind enough. It is rather fight back by the Jupiter being retrograde in Capricorn. Of course, the Rahu in Capricorn is devastating, yet if it's against Jupiter, the Truth Shall win always. We can all increase the Jupiterian power by becoming united and be truthful. God will take his form to rescue Vedas (The knowledge) from the Hiranyaksha by incarnating himself as Varaha Avatara. The Western Astrology says the retrograde Jupiter evokes the inner consciousness. It is the best time to evaluate how close you are to the source, to go back to your basics, how you are not being honest with yourself. So, I request all to become industrious and read the available reference commentaries and Vriddha Karikas to learn this wonderful Jaimini system. Yes, they are not available in print, I do agree. And that's how there is much corruption and interpolations have been crept in this science. How come a scholar in Andhra Pradesh could procure and secure the most of the commentaries on Jaimini? I do not know the exact number, but he has wealth of more than a dozen of commentaries (Is it more than two dozens?), some of them we never heard of. He did that single handedly by consulting most of the manuscripts libraries in India like Madras Oriental Library, Tanjore Library etc for decades. He did that monumental work when the communications and transport facilities not much available. A single person could do that, why not the coveted organizations that they can't show even a sloka other than BPHS? " Let the knowledge come from everywhere " is the call by our Vedas. Why do we limit ourselves with the four or five commentaries available in print where they are mainly based only on Neelakantha commentary? Why do you diet yourself when there is a feast available, of course dieting is advised for now sedentary lives, not the dieting the knowledge? The point here is not spending a day or two on each sutra. That is always welcome and that what precisely is been done by Jaimini Scholars for centuries. At first place, My Guru advised me the same. He wanted me to read the sutra and think over on that at least for a day. He said " At the end of the day, the nectar will flow, and if you get it, you never leave Jaimini " . In addition, he cautioned me to read all the available literature as well before. That's how he learnt it and his sishyas as well. Though I can't claim I learnt it, yet I never left Jaimini since that day, it' been part of my life. Unfortunately, now the new schools both in India and West came up without banking on manuscripts. When we can't understand Sanskrit Sutra literature and try over to interpret Sutras, we will go nowhere and for that precise purpose, we have commentaries which have been forgot by the modern savants of this system. It is reiterated here that to understand Sutra Vangmaya, one must be very conversant with all the six branches of Vedangas, else we must recourse to the commentaries at least. That way, all the ancient commentators were much fortunate than us, they were at least introduced to some of them. So, doubting their caliber is not acceptable IMHO. If you want to learn Jaimini System, please read the available literature and then experiment. Don't get carried away with All-In-One books, which are of course essential for understanding, but to master this system, be cautious, industrious and gather all the available. If you desirous, there is no dearth of information, as I already said elsewhere in this note, if a single person could get them, why not we all combined. With the blessings of Guru, we can learn the system. My Guru blessed me by giving a Magnum Opus called Kalpalatha, which many of us never saw. The blessings of Guru will be as such. It was such a book, most scholars never fortunate to even peep in, if they did, failed to even understand it, forget the mastery. This is Kali Yuga and we have Gurus and Disciples who don't believe in each other. Jaimini gave a clear dictum about this. Let us all put the Jaimini system at its most deserving place. I humbly request you all bless me and forgive my fury, if at all. Regards, Shanmukha sohamsa , " Sarbani Rath " <sarbani@> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Om Rishibhyo Namah > > Dear Shanmukha Teli, > > I do not know what you mean by " stand " . I and 25 others are studying the > Sutras under Sanjay Rath. He is not teaching it under the banner of SJC. He > is teaching it as an individual, under his own individual banner through > which he teaches courses, that is Devaguru Brihaspati Centre. There are many > astrologers in SJC, and they all may or may not share Sanjayji's paramaparik > teachings. SJC is a loose umbrella under which many astrologers gather, to > discuss and debate. Its doors are not closed to anyone. Hence to say, > Sanjayji's perspective is the " stand " of SJC, is incorrect. Those of us > studying the Sutras under him formally in his course, definitely share his > perspective. In fact, more, as we are being trained in his tradition; in the > way his tradition viewed the knowledge including the Sutras. The 26 of us > have voluntarily opted to learn this tradition of our own choice. > > As your jyotish guru writes, the sutras are indeed nectar and one who has > tasted that nectar, shall forever bow at the feet of Maharshi Jaimini. When > we receive the knowledge of Jaimini, we beleive the rishis themselves are > actually present, for without their blessings, the Sutras are beyond our > reach. I would like to reiterate Freedom's recommendation to you and ask you > to read Sanjayji's Preface to his Upadesha Sutra book. The first paragraph > itself should dispel whatever doubts you have and clarify Sanjayji's > perspective on this matter. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani Rath > > Homepage: <http://sarbani.com/> http://sarbani.com > > Sagittarius Publications: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > http://sagittariuspublications.com > > Sohamsa: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > Sri Jagannath Centre: <http://.org/> http://.org > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Shanmukha > 05 August 2009 13:03 > sohamsa > Fw: Re: Re :Sthir dasa > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya, > > Dear Smt. Sarbani Rath, > > //So are we. There is no doubt on the Maharshi's words. He indeed was very > unique, as are his sutras. My pranam to him.// > > Thank you for stating your stand. Shall I take it as the stand of SJC as > well, since you wrote as an astrologer not an adiministrator? > > Regards, > Shanmukha > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " Sarbani > Rath " <sarbani@> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Om Srigurave Namah > > > > Dear Shanmukha Teli, > > > > Om Shanti. I hope Freedom's mail has helped clarify. I supplement the > > following points, as an astrologer and not as an administrator, as your > > questions are beyond the scope of administration. > > > > ST: I have ample references like Somanatha Mishra , the author of > Kalpalatha > > saying that this science was written by Sage Jaimini. IMHO, No commentator > > of Jaimini ever have written that this science was initiated by Sage > > Parasara and expanded or improvised or whatever by Sage Jaimini. They are > > clear about this. > > > > So are we. There is no doubt on the Maharshi's words. He indeed was very > > unique, as are his sutras. My pranam to him. > > > > ST: Is that those 26 scholars learnt something drastically different from > > what was written in MJUS. Of course I understand, the standard of learning > > will definitely be different if we learn in-person than learning from > Books. > > > > As Freedom said, each sutra almost took 2-3 days to study. Hope I do not > > need to say more. Suffice it to know that what Sanjayji is teaching in > this > > 6-7 year long course has not been taught by him before. That includes > > Narasimha or anyone else. > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani Rath > > > > Homepage: <http://sarbani.com/> http://sarbani.com > > > > Sagittarius Publications: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > > http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > Sohamsa: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre: <http://.org/> http://.org > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > [sohamsa <sohamsa%40> ] On > Behalf Of > > Shanmukha > > 03 August 2009 23:30 > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > > Fw: Re: Re :Sthir dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > > Namaste Smt. Sarbani Rath, > > > > OH, is it? > > > > Do you mean SJC promotes " Sage Parasara and Sage Jaimini wrote two > different > > systems? " > > > > If your answer is " YES " , then I am very happy to withdraw my sentence and > > seek excuses from anyone concerned. > > > > If you answer is " NO " , why not as the President of SJC Asia/India (Aren't > > you?) declare your stand on this, once for all? > > > > If your answer is " No Comment " or a similar one, then ??? > > > > Do you mean Sage Jaimini wrote this system and somehow we find some > > explanation in BPHS about these concepts after the recent compilation? > > > > Thank you very much for giving your own view about Sri Narasimha. But, Why > > don't you to leave this to themselves. As a matter of fact, Sri Sanjay is > > the Guru and Narasimha is his disciple and they only know how much > knowledge > > and discussion they had on Jaimini or other systems? Isn't it? > > > > I guess you are the official spokesperson to Sri Sanjay / SJC. > > > > I read Sri Sanjay's commentary on Jaimini Sutras and benefited in > > understanding this system. That way I feel I learnt Jaimini system from > > Sanjay as well apart from my Guru. As you know so many students are > > Ekalavyas to B.V.Raman after they read his books. > > > > Is that those 26 scholars learnt something drastically different from what > > was written in MJUS. Of course I understand, the standard of learning will > > definitely be different if we learn in-person than learning from Books. > > > > I have ample references like Somanatha Mishra , the author of Kalpalatha > > saying that this science was written by Sage Jaimini. IMHO, No commentator > > of Jaimini ever have written that this science was initiated by Sage > > Parasara and expanded or improvised or whatever by Sage Jaimini. They are > > clear about this. So, I differ on the view that Sage Parasara and Sage > > Jaimini wrote one and the same system. > > > > If you don't mind kindly show the reference / or any commentary > exclusively > > written on Jaimini Sutras that explains that Sage Parasara and Sage > Jaimini > > wrote the same science. > > > > Warm Regards, > > Shanmukha > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > <sohamsa%40> , " Sarbani > > Rath " <sarbani@> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Dear Shanmukha, > > > > > > You wrote I know SJC promotes the view that Parasara and Jaimini wrote > the > > > same science, which I differ. Just out of curiosity, I would be > interested > > > to know from where you got this piece of information. And also, > Narasimha > > > never learnt Jaimini from Sanjayji. His opinions are his own. Sanjayji > has > > > never taught Jaimini to anyone other than the 26 scholars. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Sarbani Rath > > > > > > Homepage: <http://sarbani.com/> http://sarbani.com > > > > > > Sagittarius Publications: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > > > http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > > > Sohamsa: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre: <http://.org/> http://.org > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > <sohamsa%40> > > [sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > <sohamsa%40> ] On > > Behalf Of > > > teli Shanmukha > > > 02 August 2009 19:40 > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > <sohamsa%40> > > > Fw: Re: Re :Sthir dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Goel Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I fear you missed my point. My point was not to say whatever Sri > Narasimha > > > wrote wrong. Yet, the point is if he doesn't read what ancient > > commentators > > > had to say and comment on their caliber and efficacy, that itself is not > a > > > scholar's approach. I hope I never said his teachings were wrong. I only > > > said time will prove his findings. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way Sri Narasimha didn't wrote something which is drastically > > > different from what is existing. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know SJC promotes the view that Parasara and Jaimini wrote the same > > > science, which I differ. Why Sri Narasimha names this variation of > sthira > > > dasa as " A Sthira Dasa of Parasara " , when both Sages writes the same > > > science? Is it not he contradicting himself? > > > > > > > > > > > > I request you to kindly clarify my points, before asking me to still > give > > a > > > try. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your advice. Yet, I have a Guru, who wrote > > wonderful > > > commentary on Jaimini. If I want to learn I will learn from my Guru and > he > > > has 45 years of experience in Jaimini. He is my best resource and he > > doesn't > > > mix up Parasara's mathematical model with Jaimini to decide the winner. > As > > a > > > matter of fact, Jaimini drastically differs from Parasara. In my humble > > > opinion, we must have at least a decade of experience in pronouncing > > > anything on a rasi dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I seek your blessings. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Shanmukha > > > > > > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> > > > Re :Sthir dasa > > > teli_sha2002@ > > > Cc: " sohamsa " <sohamsa > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > Sunday, 2 August, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > > > > DEAR SHANMUKH JI, > > > > > > NO BODY IS LAYING. > > > > > > Sill kindly give a try what Mr. Narshinha Rao says. > > > > > > You will get the results. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 vedic astrology , " Shanmukha " <teli_sha2002 wrote: sohamsa , " Shanmukha " <teli_sha2002@ wrote: Sri Ganesaya Namah Namaste Smt. Sarbani Rath, I would have been very much delighted and thankful to you if you would answer " Yes " or " No " to my simple questions rather than supplementing twice to the Freedom's answer. Anyway, I thank you very much for stating your stand/ opinion / view / understanding /perspective or whatever you call it. Now, it looks those 26 scholars only share the perspetive of Sri Sanjay and other may or may not. So, I can take this as the pespective of DBC and I'll withdraw the word SJC. No Problem at all. I end the correspondence on this topic since its becoming views and more views than Astrology. To all other members, I request you all not to get frightened or disheartened with the happenings in the sky. Maharshis are so kind and powerful and their teachings will reach the true knowledge seekers provided they are industrious. I request you all remember Ekalavya episode in the Epic Mahabharata. Even the statue can teach knowledge, if you believe and deserve. That much dedication is need of the hour. Of course, how the knowledge will be used by the disciple is another issue, if misused that will be severed by Lord Krishna as been done to Ekalavya. The God will plan the things and the planets will only impel his plan. As Sri B.V. Raman puts it " Planets only impel not compel. " So, I take all the happenings in the sky on a positive note and move forward with our quest to understand this system. The impediments caused by the planets, persons, traditions etc. all are temporary and God interferes at the right time. The Lord Vishnu sees the Nectar available to the deserved. He will definitely cut those demons; even they had drunk the nectar. It doesn't mean we are helpless, our efforts will be rewarded and God is kind enough. It is rather fight back by the Jupiter being retrograde in Capricorn. Of course, the Rahu in Capricorn is devastating, yet if it's against Jupiter, the Truth Shall win always. We can all increase the Jupiterian power by becoming united and be truthful. God will take his form to rescue Vedas (The knowledge) from the Hiranyaksha by incarnating himself as Varaha Avatara. The Western Astrology says the retrograde Jupiter evokes the inner consciousness. It is the best time to evaluate how close you are to the source, to go back to your basics, how you are not being honest with yourself. So, I request all to become industrious and read the available reference commentaries and Vriddha Karikas to learn this wonderful Jaimini system. Yes, they are not available in print, I do agree. And that's how there is much corruption and interpolations have been crept in this science. How come a scholar in Andhra Pradesh could procure and secure the most of the commentaries on Jaimini? I do not know the exact number, but he has wealth of more than a dozen of commentaries (Is it more than two dozens?), some of them we never heard of. He did that single handedly by consulting most of the manuscripts libraries in India like Madras Oriental Library, Tanjore Library etc for decades. He did that monumental work when the communications and transport facilities not much available. A single person could do that, why not the coveted organizations that they can't show even a sloka other than BPHS? " Let the knowledge come from everywhere " is the call by our Vedas. Why do we limit ourselves with the four or five commentaries available in print where they are mainly based only on Neelakantha commentary? Why do you diet yourself when there is a feast available, of course dieting is advised for now sedentary lives, not the dieting the knowledge? The point here is not spending a day or two on each sutra. That is always welcome and that what precisely is been done by Jaimini Scholars for centuries. At first place, My Guru advised me the same. He wanted me to read the sutra and think over on that at least for a day. He said " At the end of the day, the nectar will flow, and if you get it, you never leave Jaimini " . In addition, he cautioned me to read all the available literature as well before. That's how he learnt it and his sishyas as well. Though I can't claim I learnt it, yet I never left Jaimini since that day, it' been part of my life. Unfortunately, now the new schools both in India and West came up without banking on manuscripts. When we can't understand Sanskrit Sutra literature and try over to interpret Sutras, we will go nowhere and for that precise purpose, we have commentaries which have been forgot by the modern savants of this system. It is reiterated here that to understand Sutra Vangmaya, one must be very conversant with all the six branches of Vedangas, else we must recourse to the commentaries at least. That way, all the ancient commentators were much fortunate than us, they were at least introduced to some of them. So, doubting their caliber is not acceptable IMHO. If you want to learn Jaimini System, please read the available literature and then experiment. Don't get carried away with All-In-One books, which are of course essential for understanding, but to master this system, be cautious, industrious and gather all the available. If you desirous, there is no dearth of information, as I already said elsewhere in this note, if a single person could get them, why not we all combined. With the blessings of Guru, we can learn the system. My Guru blessed me by giving a Magnum Opus called Kalpalatha, which many of us never saw. The blessings of Guru will be as such. It was such a book, most scholars never fortunate to even peep in, if they did, failed to even understand it, forget the mastery. This is Kali Yuga and we have Gurus and Disciples who don't believe in each other. Jaimini gave a clear dictum about this. Let us all put the Jaimini system at its most deserving place. I humbly request you all bless me and forgive my fury, if at all. Regards, Shanmukha sohamsa , " Sarbani Rath " <sarbani@ wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Rishibhyo Namah Dear Shanmukha Teli, I do not know what you mean by " stand " . I and 25 others are studying the Sutras under Sanjay Rath. He is not teaching it under the banner of SJC. He is teaching it as an individual, under his own individual banner through which he teaches courses, that is Devaguru Brihaspati Centre. There are many astrologers in SJC, and they all may or may not share Sanjayji's paramaparik teachings. SJC is a loose umbrella under which many astrologers gather, to discuss and debate. Its doors are not closed to anyone. Hence to say, Sanjayji's perspective is the " stand " of SJC, is incorrect. Those of us studying the Sutras under him formally in his course, definitely share his perspective. In fact, more, as we are being trained in his tradition; in the way his tradition viewed the knowledge including the Sutras. The 26 of us have voluntarily opted to learn this tradition of our own choice. As your jyotish guru writes, the sutras are indeed nectar and one who has tasted that nectar, shall forever bow at the feet of Maharshi Jaimini. When we receive the knowledge of Jaimini, we beleive the rishis themselves are actually present, for without their blessings, the Sutras are beyond our reach. I would like to reiterate Freedom's recommendation to you and ask you to read Sanjayji's Preface to his Upadesha Sutra book. The first paragraph itself should dispel whatever doubts you have and clarify Sanjayji's perspective on this matter. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: <http://sarbani.com/ http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/ http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: <http://sohamsa.com/ http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: <http://.org/ http://.org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Shanmukha 05 August 2009 13:03 sohamsa Fw: Re: Re :Sthir dasa Om Namah Sivaya, Dear Smt. Sarbani Rath, //So are we. There is no doubt on the Maharshi's words. He indeed was very unique, as are his sutras. My pranam to him.// Thank you for stating your stand. Shall I take it as the stand of SJC as well, since you wrote as an astrologer not an adiministrator? Regards, Shanmukha sohamsa <sohamsa%40 , " Sarbani Rath " <sarbani@ wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Om Srigurave Namah Dear Shanmukha Teli, Om Shanti. I hope Freedom's mail has helped clarify. I supplement the following points, as an astrologer and not as an administrator, as your questions are beyond the scope of administration. ST: I have ample references like Somanatha Mishra , the author of Kalpalatha saying that this science was written by Sage Jaimini. IMHO, No commentator of Jaimini ever have written that this science was initiated by Sage Parasara and expanded or improvised or whatever by Sage Jaimini. They are clear about this. So are we. There is no doubt on the Maharshi's words. He indeed was very unique, as are his sutras. My pranam to him. ST: Is that those 26 scholars learnt something drastically different from what was written in MJUS. Of course I understand, the standard of learning will definitely be different if we learn in-person than learning from Books. As Freedom said, each sutra almost took 2-3 days to study. Hope I do not need to say more. Suffice it to know that what Sanjayji is teaching in this 6-7 year long course has not been taught by him before. That includes Narasimha or anyone else. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: <http://sarbani.com/ http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/ http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: <http://sohamsa.com/ http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: <http://.org/ http://.org sohamsa <sohamsa%40 [sohamsa <sohamsa%40 ] On Behalf Of Shanmukha 03 August 2009 23:30 sohamsa <sohamsa%40 Fw: Re: Re :Sthir dasa Om Namah Sivaya Namaste Smt. Sarbani Rath, OH, is it? Do you mean SJC promotes " Sage Parasara and Sage Jaimini wrote two different systems? " If your answer is " YES " , then I am very happy to withdraw my sentence and seek excuses from anyone concerned. If you answer is " NO " , why not as the President of SJC Asia/India (Aren't you?) declare your stand on this, once for all? If your answer is " No Comment " or a similar one, then ??? Do you mean Sage Jaimini wrote this system and somehow we find some explanation in BPHS about these concepts after the recent compilation? Thank you very much for giving your own view about Sri Narasimha. But, Why don't you to leave this to themselves. As a matter of fact, Sri Sanjay is the Guru and Narasimha is his disciple and they only know how much knowledge and discussion they had on Jaimini or other systems? Isn't it? I guess you are the official spokesperson to Sri Sanjay / SJC. I read Sri Sanjay's commentary on Jaimini Sutras and benefited in understanding this system. That way I feel I learnt Jaimini system from Sanjay as well apart from my Guru. As you know so many students are Ekalavyas to B.V.Raman after they read his books. Is that those 26 scholars learnt something drastically different from what was written in MJUS. Of course I understand, the standard of learning will definitely be different if we learn in-person than learning from Books. I have ample references like Somanatha Mishra , the author of Kalpalatha saying that this science was written by Sage Jaimini. IMHO, No commentator of Jaimini ever have written that this science was initiated by Sage Parasara and expanded or improvised or whatever by Sage Jaimini. They are clear about this. So, I differ on the view that Sage Parasara and Sage Jaimini wrote one and the same system. If you don't mind kindly show the reference / or any commentary exclusively written on Jaimini Sutras that explains that Sage Parasara and Sage Jaimini wrote the same science. Warm Regards, Shanmukha sohamsa <sohamsa%40 <sohamsa%40 , " Sarbani Rath " <sarbani@ wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Shanmukha, You wrote I know SJC promotes the view that Parasara and Jaimini wrote the same science, which I differ. Just out of curiosity, I would be interested to know from where you got this piece of information. And also, Narasimha never learnt Jaimini from Sanjayji. His opinions are his own. Sanjayji has never taught Jaimini to anyone other than the 26 scholars. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: <http://sarbani.com/ http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/ http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: <http://sohamsa.com/ http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: <http://.org/ http://.org sohamsa <sohamsa%40 <sohamsa%40 [sohamsa <sohamsa%40 <sohamsa%40 ] On Behalf Of teli Shanmukha 02 August 2009 19:40 sohamsa <sohamsa%40 <sohamsa%40 Fw: Re: Re :Sthir dasa Om Namah Sivaya Namaste Goel Ji, I fear you missed my point. My point was not to say whatever Sri Narasimha wrote wrong. Yet, the point is if he doesn't read what ancient commentators had to say and comment on their caliber and efficacy, that itself is not a scholar's approach. I hope I never said his teachings were wrong. I only said time will prove his findings. By the way Sri Narasimha didn't wrote something which is drastically different from what is existing. I know SJC promotes the view that Parasara and Jaimini wrote the same science, which I differ. Why Sri Narasimha names this variation of sthira dasa as " A Sthira Dasa of Parasara " , when both Sages writes the same science? Is it not he contradicting himself? I request you to kindly clarify my points, before asking me to still give a try. Thank you very much for your advice. Yet, I have a Guru, who wrote wonderful commentary on Jaimini. If I want to learn I will learn from my Guru and he has 45 years of experience in Jaimini. He is my best resource and he doesn't mix up Parasara's mathematical model with Jaimini to decide the winner. As a matter of fact, Jaimini drastically differs from Parasara. In my humble opinion, we must have at least a decade of experience in pronouncing anything on a rasi dasa. I seek your blessings. Regards, Shanmukha --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ wrote: Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ Re :Sthir dasa teli_sha2002@ Cc: " sohamsa " <sohamsa <sohamsa%40 <sohamsa%40 Sunday, 2 August, 2009, 4:32 PM DEAR SHANMUKH JI, NO BODY IS LAYING. Sill kindly give a try what Mr. Narshinha Rao says. You will get the results. Regards. G.K.GOEL G.K.GOEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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