Use of Divisions (Amsas/Vargas) in result derivation

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Dear Rajendra Bhatt ji, //Is it enough for a planet to be placed in any one (of the 12 vargas)

malefic varga to give adverse results? Or do we take average of 12

varga placements (benefic/ malefic)?// Each varga position can produce its own result (actually there also 7-types of results) as well described by the classics. For example remember results such as - "If 7th lord is in the navamsa (9th division) of benefic, then the native will have beautiful waist" etc. Similar results using various techniques (7-fold as in the case of natal charts) are available for Divisions (Amsas/Vargas) as well. But when the question is NOT about RESULT but about STRENGTH of a planet or house, then just the count benefic/malefic division is considered (out of 12). Generally a planet in benefic varga (placed in benefic divisions) will give benefic results and a planet in malefic varga (placed in malefic divisions) will give malefic results. But it is not good or useful to resort to such general statements; since like in the case of natal charts it is the actual results that matters and not the vague statements like good/bad, benefic/malefic etc. In truth every planet can and will provide BOTH good and bad results (try to say what results and not just good bad) at the same time. In the same way if a planet is placed in some division, it will give BOTH good and bad results corresponding to it. Take an example and try to understand better. Question: For a Leo lagna native Sun is placed in Aries 3 degree. What are the results you will predict for Kshetra (D1), Hora (D2), Drekkana (D3), Chaturthamsa (D4), Panchamamsa (D5) etc up to D12 for that planet? Exploring the answer to even such a single question can help us to move much much forward in our understanding of astrology and techniques and tools to be used in interpretation using divisions as well. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "rajendra_bhatt" <rajendra_bhatt wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> Thank you very much for detailed answer. However it gives another doubt. Is it enough for a planet to be placed in any one (of the 12 vargas) malefic varga to give adverse results? Or do we take average of 12 varga placements (benefic/ malefic)?> Thanks and Regards,> Rajendra> > , "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Rajendra Bhatt ji,> > ==>> > > (1) In the first post it is said:> > > //and if that malefic is placed in the varga of other malefic planets> > //> > > Which varga chart do we take? D-9?> > <==> > We shouldn't take any divisional chart! But instead we are supposed to> > consider divisions (amsas). For example dwadasa vargas. I will explain.> > What we are supposed to do is - to look at the nature of sub-divisions> > with in that sign were the 7th lord is placed. We are supposed to check,> > for example if 5th lord Sun is placed in 7th then,> > 1) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) SIGN that Sun is> > placed> > 2) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) HORA that Sun is> > placed> > 3) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) DREKKANA that Sun is> > placed> > 4) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) CHATURDHAMSA that Sun> > is placed> > 5) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) PANCHAMAMSA that Sun> > is placed> > 6) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) SHASHTAMSA that Sun is> > placed> > 7) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) SAPTAMSA that Sun is> > placed> > etc upto the 12th Division (Amsa). We are NOT supposed to take or> > draw the Divisional chart at all; what we are interested is only in the> > Divisions of the sign in which Sun is placed and whether it is owned by> > a benefic or malefic planet.> > If you are getting that, if you are seeing that the planet in 7th is> > placed in MALEFIC VARGA then definitely that planet is going to give> > MALEFIC RESULTS (Since it is the nature of the Sign and Divisions that> > comes through the planet); on the other hand if the planet is in BENEFIC> > VARGA then definitely that planet is going to give BENEFIC RESULTS> > (Since it is the nature of the Sign and Divisions that comes through the> > planet)> > ==>> > > (2) In second post you have mentioned:> > > // This might be the thing that ultimately lead to marriage break-up> > in such cases. //> > >> > > I understood from the title of your first post that subject is about> > spouse's death i.e. end of marriage naturally but not a divorce/> > separation. Or are you taking it philosophically, to include all aspects> > of marriage "break up"?> > <==> > I am taking it philosophically, and is including all aspects of> > marriage "break-up". It is just that the marriage itself would be> > permanently or temporarily dead; it is not necessary that the wife> > should "actually" DIE. But please don't forget that this result too is> > not impossible - and could materialize in some cases. Hope this> > clarifies.> > Note: In astrology it is better NOT TO take everything literally. We> > will have to modify the results, as per situations and combinations.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "rajendra_bhatt"> > <rajendra_bhatt@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > I have two doubts.> > > (1) In the first post it is said:> > > //and if that malefic is placed in the varga of other malefic planets> > //> > > Which varga chart do we take? D-9?> > > (2) In second post you have mentioned:> > > // This might be the thing that ultimately lead to marriage break-up> > in such cases. //> > >> > > I understood from the title of your first post that subject is about> > spouse's death i.e. end of marriage naturally but not a divorce/> > separation. Or are you taking it philosophically, to include all aspects> > of marriage "break up"?> > > Please clarify.> > > Thanks and Regards,> > > Rajendra> >>

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Dear Sreenadh ji,

Thank you very much for showing the direction. I will search for the answers and

hopefully return with answers to get it verified by you.

Regards,

Rajendra

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Rajendra Bhatt ji,

> //Is it enough for a planet to be placed in any one (of the 12 vargas)

> malefic varga to give adverse results? Or do we take average of 12 varga

> placements (benefic/ malefic)?//

> Each varga position can produce its own result (actually there also

> 7-types of results) as well described by the classics. For example

> remember results such as - " If 7th lord is in the navamsa (9th division)

> of benefic, then the native will have beautiful waist " etc. Similar

> results using various techniques (7-fold as in the case of natal charts)

> are available for Divisions (Amsas/Vargas) as well.

> But when the question is NOT about RESULT but about STRENGTH of a

> planet or house, then just the count benefic/malefic division is

> considered (out of 12). Generally a planet in benefic varga (placed in

> benefic divisions) will give benefic results and a planet in malefic

> varga (placed in malefic divisions) will give malefic results. But it is

> not good or useful to resort to such general statements; since like in

> the case of natal charts it is the actual results that matters and not

> the vague statements like good/bad, benefic/malefic etc. In truth every

> planet can and will provide BOTH good and bad results (try to say what

> results and not just good bad) at the same time. In the same way if a

> planet is placed in some division, it will give BOTH good and bad

> results corresponding to it.

> Take an example and try to understand better. Question: For a Leo

> lagna native Sun is placed in Aries 3 degree. What are the results you

> will predict for Kshetra (D1), Hora (D2), Drekkana (D3), Chaturthamsa

> (D4), Panchamamsa (D5) etc up to D12 for that planet? Exploring the

> answer to even such a single question can help us to move much much

> forward in our understanding of astrology and techniques and tools to be

> used in interpretation using divisions as well. []

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " rajendra_bhatt "

> <rajendra_bhatt@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> > Thank you very much for detailed answer. However it gives another

> doubt. Is it enough for a planet to be placed in any one (of the 12

> vargas) malefic varga to give adverse results? Or do we take average of

> 12 varga placements (benefic/ malefic)?

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Rajendra

> >

> > , " Sreenadh " sreesog@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajendra Bhatt ji,

> > > ==>

> > > > (1) In the first post it is said:

> > > > //and if that malefic is placed in the varga of other malefic

> planets

> > > //

> > > > Which varga chart do we take? D-9?

> > > <==

> > > We shouldn't take any divisional chart! But instead we are

> supposed to

> > > consider divisions (amsas). For example dwadasa vargas. I will

> explain.

> > > What we are supposed to do is - to look at the nature of

> sub-divisions

> > > with in that sign were the 7th lord is placed. We are supposed to

> check,

> > > for example if 5th lord Sun is placed in 7th then,

> > > 1) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) SIGN that Sun is

> > > placed

> > > 2) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) HORA that Sun is

> > > placed

> > > 3) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) DREKKANA that Sun

> is

> > > placed

> > > 4) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) CHATURDHAMSA that

> Sun

> > > is placed

> > > 5) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) PANCHAMAMSA that

> Sun

> > > is placed

> > > 6) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) SHASHTAMSA that

> Sun is

> > > placed

> > > 7) in whose (which malefic or benefic planet's) SAPTAMSA that Sun

> is

> > > placed

> > > etc upto the 12th Division (Amsa). We are NOT supposed to take

> or

> > > draw the Divisional chart at all; what we are interested is only in

> the

> > > Divisions of the sign in which Sun is placed and whether it is owned

> by

> > > a benefic or malefic planet.

> > > If you are getting that, if you are seeing that the planet in

> 7th is

> > > placed in MALEFIC VARGA then definitely that planet is going to give

> > > MALEFIC RESULTS (Since it is the nature of the Sign and Divisions

> that

> > > comes through the planet); on the other hand if the planet is in

> BENEFIC

> > > VARGA then definitely that planet is going to give BENEFIC RESULTS

> > > (Since it is the nature of the Sign and Divisions that comes through

> the

> > > planet)

> > > ==>

> > > > (2) In second post you have mentioned:

> > > > // This might be the thing that ultimately lead to marriage

> break-up

> > > in such cases. //

> > > >

> > > > I understood from the title of your first post that subject is

> about

> > > spouse's death i.e. end of marriage naturally but not a divorce/

> > > separation. Or are you taking it philosophically, to include all

> aspects

> > > of marriage " break up " ?

> > > <==

> > > I am taking it philosophically, and is including all aspects of

> > > marriage " break-up " . It is just that the marriage itself would be

> > > permanently or temporarily dead; it is not necessary that the wife

> > > should " actually " DIE. But please don't forget that this result too

> is

> > > not impossible - and could materialize in some cases. Hope this

> > > clarifies.

> > > Note: In astrology it is better NOT TO take everything literally.

> We

> > > will have to modify the results, as per situations and combinations.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " rajendra_bhatt "

> > > <rajendra_bhatt@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> > > > I have two doubts.

> > > > (1) In the first post it is said:

> > > > //and if that malefic is placed in the varga of other malefic

> planets

> > > //

> > > > Which varga chart do we take? D-9?

> > > > (2) In second post you have mentioned:

> > > > // This might be the thing that ultimately lead to marriage

> break-up

> > > in such cases. //

> > > >

> > > > I understood from the title of your first post that subject is

> about

> > > spouse's death i.e. end of marriage naturally but not a divorce/

> > > separation. Or are you taking it philosophically, to include all

> aspects

> > > of marriage " break up " ?

> > > > Please clarify.

> > > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > > Rajendra

> > >

> >

>