Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 The Obama Inauguration January 29th, 2009 · Astrology The inauguration of President Barack Obama satisfied many astrologers in at least one minor aspect – the swearing-in oath, conducted during a retrograde Mercury, was screwed up by Chief Justice John Roberts, such that he felt it necessary to go to the White House later that same evening and do it all over again. But does retrograde Mercury spell disaster for the Obama term of office? Not at all. Mercury Rx is not the universal kiss-of-death that many astrologers (and their clients) think it is. A little context is necessary to fully understand its ramifications. I clocked the swearing in at 12:05 PM on January 20, 2009. In the sidereal system favored by Vedic astrologers, that gives an Aries ascendant with Ketu in the fourth house, retrograde Saturn in the fifth, Moon in the eighth, Mars in the ninth, a stellium (retrograde Mercury, Sun, Jupiter and Rahu) in the tenth, and Venus in the eleventh. Although considered strong in natal charts, retrograde planets in prashna (horary) or muhurtha (electional) charts can be a problem for the houses they rule. In this chart, Mercury rules the third house (communications, contracts and neighbors) and the sixth (labour, the environment and enemies). Mercury's role as lord of communications certainly delivered a glitch in the swearing-in, but what else does it mean? Because Mercury is both retrograde and combust, we can expect the USA's neighbors to flinch under the Obama administration. This doesn't necessarily mean scratching NAFTA, but it could spell a round of re-negotiating certain trade agreements within the context of a "good-fences-make-good-neighbors" approach toward Canada and Mexico. Since Mercury also rules the sixth house and labor, we can expect a tough-love attitude toward unions, starting with the United Auto Workers in whose feathered beds Detroit's Big Three are now tossing and turning with nightmares of bankruptcy. Similarly, the sixth house environment is going to see some serious revisions of government policy. Last but not least, sixth house enemies will be approached with carrots and threatened with sticks. With Moon, lord of the fourth house (general public) debilitated in the eighth, the people of America will certainly suffer. Like Amy Winehouse, they'll be singing "They want to make me go to re-hab, but I said no, no, no…" while being dragged kicking and screaming all the way. But just as alcoholics and gambling addicts must embrace a "no pain, no gain" philosophy to get through withdrawal, there's a light at the end of that long tunnel, maybe toward the end of Obama's first term. Mars, lord of the Ascendant, stands unobstructed in the ninth house, so foreign policy will be a big-time pivotal element in the Obama administration. Unfortunately, ninth house lord Jupiter is both debilitated and combust in the tenth house, so there may be flaws in the policy. But the Sun is strong in the tenth house, and enjoys a mutual exchange with Saturn in the fifth, so the administration, or execution of that policy, will generally be strong. In fact, there are many signs for good government in this inauguration chart. Links between the fifth house (ministership), ninth house (policy) and tenth house (administration) are vital for any political chart. As noted above, the Sun/Saturn exchange links the fifth and the tenth, while Jupiter's ownership of the ninth and occupancy of the tenth links it to the Sun and thus, via the exchange, to Saturn. Last but not least, Venus as lord of the second house (finance, education) and the seventh (foreign relations) is in the eleventh (social idealism) opposed to Saturn (reality) but, in the long run, will prevail in rebuilding America's domestic vitality and developing better relationships with the rest of the world. Go, Obama, go!http://www.navamsa.com/?p=39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Dear manoj JI and Goel Ji and brahma ji Thanks for participating in discussion s Even i commnted on first swearing in ceremoney of Obama ( even waiting for it days in advance to happen as time is Known much b4-when other s where showering praises well in advance by simply looking some yoga s and parivarthan etc etc ) it happened with ashtama gatha chandra ( Moon in 8th House frm lagna ) which is a High muhurtha dosha as per muhurtha classics ( grahanam chandra balam pradhanam --the strnght and placement of Moon is most important,it also further says Moon is like seed of a plant and it work like that way in events to come ,so good seed will make sure a good crop and harvest ) so i was waiting for event to happen and then heard they hav re do everything in diffrnt muhurtha or time so my question is How to use both timing s and cross veryfy it tru events .Technicaly many may argue in diffrnt way ,even i heard the arguemnt he is prez ever since he is elected .So is true when rajyabhisekha was doing for many indian Kings ,they r supposed to b kings frm birth if he is first Born son ,Then why classics laid down certain rules for rajyabhisheka Muhurtha ??sure retro planets unless they r indicaters ( here lagnesh and rajya pada Lord ( 10th L ) in muhurtha chart generaly we can ignore them .Same applys to combustion also this is my personal opinion but many go further and even take s compressed Vimshottary frm muhurtha charts and explain things and predict s manythings ,Sure it also will work ,But who has real time to do all this Kind of reserch unless some agency is supporting that poor stupid astrologer who waistes his time on such pursuits ,and illuminate the world at large .rgrds sunil nair , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > Dear ALL,> If we comment on the performance of President Obama,> we need following two data :> 1. Birth particulars of Obama> 2. National chart of USA> Can some savant provide this information> Thanks and regards,> > G. K. Goel> > > > > > abhanaya Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:54:20 -0700> Re: The Obama Inauguration--revisited> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranams,Mr.Manoj ji,> > Sorry for interruptions.Well used Shakespeare's comedy phrase.I am also of your view that such wiled contemplations would go as a Astrological fuss over nothing.In the Natural swearing in chart Mercury attained asthamana dosha in the 10th house and become neecha in Navamsa chart but it (Mercury) attains retrogression in gochara on 16.9.2009 in Kannya rasi> on the eve of Rasi Bhukta Vimsottri ( prorated )Mercury Dasa .Further Mercury would cater its 10th house( in mundane it deals with the parliament or the constitutional body governing the state's public policy, the kind of authority of the ruler such as autocracy, democracy etc) capricorn rasi phalam from 16.9.2009 to 8.10.2009.> > I think during this period Mr.Obama may achive his endeavors in bringing about Health Reforms .> Regards / Dhananjayan> > > --- On Sun, 23/8/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj wrote:> > Manoj Chandran> chandran_manoj Re: The Obama Inauguration--revisited> > Sunday, 23 August, 2009, 1:34 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel Ji, Sunil Ji,> > Once again this "Retrograde Mercury is the Kiss of Death" business is an imported concept from Western Astrology. It is not an authentic Jyotish concept and as such has NO merit. Much Ado about Nothing. (and yes this line is also imported from a Western writer, Shakespear, So every thing Western is not bad, but we must not mix systems).> > Regards,> > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > gopal krishna goel g.k.goel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:26:54 AM> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] The Obama Inauguration- -revisited> > > > Dear Friends,> The rules in India and USA are slightly different.> In India , the power to President or Ministers comes after > taking the oath of office and then after signing the register.> In USA , President assumes the office on Jan20,at 12.00 NOON.> And thereafter Obama took the oath of office as effective PRESIDENT.> aS SUCH A CHART SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR jan20,2009 at 12.00noon.> > It may be recalled that there was some error in oath taking.As such> another oath was administrated same evening in white house.> > G. K. Goel> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:45 +0000> [ancient_indian_ astrology] The Obama Inauguration- -revisited> > > > > > > The Obama Inauguration> January 29th, 2009 · Astrology > The inauguration of President Barack Obama satisfied many astrologers in at least one minor aspect – the swearing-in oath, conducted during a retrograde Mercury, was screwed up by Chief Justice John Roberts, such that he felt it necessary to go to the White House later that same evening and do it all over again.> But does retrograde Mercury spell disaster for the Obama term of office? Not at all. Mercury Rx is not the universal kiss-of-death that many astrologers (and their clients) think it is. A little context is necessary to fully understand its ramifications.> I clocked the swearing in at 12:05 PM on January 20, 2009. In the sidereal system favored by Vedic astrologers, that gives an Aries ascendant with Ketu in the fourth house, retrograde Saturn in the fifth, Moon in the eighth, Mars in the ninth, a stellium> (retrograde Mercury,> Sun, Jupiter and Rahu) in the tenth, and Venus in the eleventh.> Although considered strong in natal charts, retrograde planets in prashna (horary) or muhurtha (electional) charts can be a problem for the houses they rule. In this chart, Mercury rules the third house (communications, contracts and neighbors) and the sixth (labour, the environment and enemies). Mercury's role as lord of communications certainly delivered a glitch in the swearing-in, but what else does it mean?> Because Mercury is both retrograde and combust, we can expect the USA's neighbors to flinch under the Obama administration. This doesn't necessarily mean scratching NAFTA, but it could spell a round of re-negotiating certain trade agreements within the context of a "good-fences- make-good- neighbors" approach toward Canada and Mexico.> Since Mercury also rules> the sixth> house and labor, we can expect a tough-love attitude toward unions, starting with the United Auto Workers in whose feathered beds Detroit's Big Three are now tossing and turning with nightmares of bankruptcy. Similarly, the sixth house environment is going to see some serious revisions of government policy. Last but not least, sixth house enemies will be approached with carrots and threatened with sticks.> With Moon, lord of the fourth house (general public) debilitated in the eighth, the people of America will certainly suffer. Like Amy Winehouse, they'll be singing "They want to make me go to re-hab, but I said no, no, no…" while being dragged kicking and screaming all the way. But just as alcoholics and gambling addicts must embrace a "no pain, no gain" philosophy to get through withdrawal, there's a light at the end of that long tunnel, maybe toward the end of Obama's first term.> Mars, lord of the Ascendant, stands unobstructed in the ninth house, so foreign policy will be a big-time pivotal element in the Obama administration. Unfortunately, ninth house lord Jupiter is both debilitated and combust in the tenth house, so there may be flaws in the policy. But the Sun is strong in the tenth house, and enjoys a mutual exchange with Saturn in the fifth, so the administration, or execution of that policy, will generally be strong.> In fact, there are many signs for good government in this inauguration chart. Links between the fifth house (ministership) , ninth house (policy) and tenth house (administration) are vital for any political chart. As noted above, the Sun/Saturn exchange links the fifth and the tenth, while Jupiter's ownership of the ninth and occupancy of the tenth links it to the Sun and thus, via the exchange, to Saturn.> Last but not least,> Venus as lord of the second house (finance, education) and the seventh (foreign relations) is in the eleventh (social idealism) opposed to Saturn (reality) but, in the long run, will prevail in rebuilding America's domestic vitality and developing better relationships with the rest of the world.> Go, Obama, go!> http://www.navamsa. com/?p=39> > > > > > > Date India's Teen Diva. Find out if you hit it off with her or are her fiery opposite. 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Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Dear Mr. G. K. Goel,  The birth particulars of Obama is as under  Birth date - 4 August 1961, friday Birth time - 7:24 PM Birth place - Honolulu (hawaii, USA) This I have got it from internet. I am not sure about its correctness.  D D Trivedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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