Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Dear Learned Members, Please guide as to what must we "Grihastas" do in this Paksha so as to keep our departed ones happy, and provide them "sadgati" and also gain their grace. In short how to take advantage from the Shradha Paksha. I am not a Karma kandi Pundit so do not know about these matters, hence requesting. Please bifercate the "Karyas" which every "Grihastha" must do, which must be done by Pundits and which must be done in normal course of Life. Copy Paste members from other websites please do not reply this post and keep away please. Only those Learned members who really know about these matters reply this post. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Tricky clause, and these are things you might be already knowing. Still let me venture - 1. Tarpana can be and should be given to the departed ones. For this there is no need for an officiating priest. 2. For pinda pradana there should be a priest. 3. In the normal course, one who has both parents should not do any apara offerings. But one who lost one or both parents should offer three morcels before beginning food - to visvadevas, bhutas and pitru devatas. And at the end of food, should take handful of water, drink half and leave the other half around the plate - this and the remaining minimal food in the plate goes to the departed ones who did not attain the status of pitru devatas but are residing in raurava and other places. 4. Upbringing and teaching children, having progeny and raising them well is a part of pitru yajna (one of the panca maha yajnas). It is good to organize something for vamsa vriddhi, and it will surely make pitru devatas happy. Of course, all this varies from the followers of one veda sakha to the other, so this is not universal. However these are only general guidelines. Shankarbhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 10:56:48 PM Shradha Paksha Dear Learned Members, Please guide as to what must we "Grihastas" do in this Paksha so as to keep our departed ones happy, and provide them "sadgati" and also gain their grace. In short how to take advantage from the Shradha Paksha. I am not a Karma kandi Pundit so do not know about these matters, hence requesting. Please bifercate the "Karyas" which every "Grihastha" must do, which must be done by Pundits and which must be done in normal course of Life. Copy Paste members from other websites please do not reply this post and keep away please. Only those Learned members who really know about these matters reply this post. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear Shankara Bharadwaj ji, Thank you for sparing time and replying to my Query. 1) My parents are both living. I was keen in making my Pitrus happy and trying to help them for their sadgati This includes my Grandparents and others from my own clan, and my Grandparents and one Uncle from Maternal side. Hence I asked this Query. I did not go to Pundits because I do not want any such type of elaborate ritual to be performed at my place or elsewhere for certain reasons. I am aware that for my maternal side I do not need to do any actvities, but is this a rule that I cannot do so and only their sons will do this (Sons means my maternal Uncles )? 2) You mentioned that tarpana does not need any officiating priest. So how does one do it without a priest ? Am I allowed to do it with both parents living ? 3) Am I allowed to donate food stuff in name of dead grandparents on their Tithi dates during the shradha paksha and make a mental request to God, to please grant peace to their soul in return for this ? That point of raising the children well as part of Pitru Yajna is important and thanks for reminding the same. regards, Bhaskar. , ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj wrote: > > Tricky clause, and these are things you might be already knowing. Still let me venture - > > 1. Tarpana can be and should be given to the departed ones. For this there is no need for an officiating priest. > 2. For pinda pradana there should be a priest. > 3. In the normal course, one who has both parents should not do any apara offerings. But one who lost one or both parents should offer three morcels before beginning food - to visvadevas, bhutas and pitru devatas. And at the end of food, should take handful of water, drink half and leave the other half around the plate - this and the remaining minimal food in the plate goes to the departed ones who did not attain the status of pitru devatas but are residing in raurava and other places. > 4. Upbringing and teaching children, having progeny and raising them well is a part of pitru yajna (one of the panca maha yajnas). It is good to organize something for vamsa vriddhi, and it will surely make pitru devatas happy. > > Of course, all this varies from the followers of one veda sakha to the other, so this is not universal. However these are only general guidelines. > > Shankar > > > > > > ________________________________ > bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish > > Saturday, September 5, 2009 10:56:48 PM > Shradha Paksha > > > Dear Learned Members, > Please guide as to what must we " Grihastas " do in this Paksha so as to keep our departed ones happy, and provide them " sadgati " and also gain their grace. > In short how to take advantage from the Shradha Paksha. > I am not a Karma kandi Pundit so do not know about these matters, hence requesting. > Please bifercate the " Karyas " which every " Grihastha " must do, which must be done by Pundits and which must be done in normal course of Life. > Copy Paste members from other websites please do not reply this post and keep away please. Only those Learned members who really know about these matters reply this post. > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, I would like to recommend the following link on tarpana: http://www.vedicastrologer.org/tarpana/ As a person who has only recently been introduced to rituals (i always had some resistance / block to performing them), i should have no authority to talk about it. But here are some random thoughts i thought i could share with u anyway. Right from my childhood when i saw shraadha being performed, i have associated this fortnight with food. Recently, i came across a story about daana veer Karna. It seems when he ascended to Vaikunth he was showered with a lot of wealth...gold, silver, etc....but there was no sign of anna / food. He had to once again descend to earth and perform anna daan to take care of the deficiency in his previous daans. The fortnight when he came down to earth to do this daana is known as pitra paksha. So probably, in order to take the maximum "advantage" of this period, anna daan is important. Tarpana is performed by pouring water on the palm of the hand. Water element, they say, signifies moksha. From now on it is going to be sheer fantasy...so u may just ignore this. We are tied to our pitris thru the DNA. Our DNA bears the imprint of the karma / thoughts of our ancestors. Are we trying to wash some of these karmas thru tarpana and daana? Are we releasing our pitris and ourselves of these karmas through this ritual...in order to inch towards moksha? :) Best regards, vinita , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shankara Bharadwaj ji,> > Thank you for sparing time and replying to my Query.> > 1) My parents are both living. I was keen in making my Pitrus happy and> trying to help them for their sadgati This includes my Grandparents and> others from my own clan, and my Grandparents and one Uncle from Maternal> side. Hence I asked this Query. I did not go to Pundits because I do not> want any such type of elaborate ritual to be performed at my place or> elsewhere for certain reasons. I am aware that for my maternal side I do> not need to do any actvities, but is this a rule that I cannot do so and> only their sons will do this (Sons means my maternal Uncles )?> > 2) You mentioned that tarpana does not need any officiating priest. So> how does one do it without a priest ? Am I allowed to do it with both> parents living ?> > 3) Am I allowed to donate food stuff in name of dead grandparents on> their Tithi dates during the shradha paksha and make a mental request to> God, to please grant peace to their soul in return for this ?> > That point of raising the children well as part of Pitru Yajna is> important and thanks for reminding the same.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , ShankaraBharadwaj> Khandavalli shankarabharadwaj@ wrote:> >> > Tricky clause, and these are things you might be already knowing.> Still let me venture -> >> > 1. Tarpana can be and should be given to the departed ones. For this> there is no need for an officiating priest.> > 2. For pinda pradana there should be a priest.> > 3. In the normal course, one who has both parents should not do any> apara offerings. But one who lost one or both parents should offer three> morcels before beginning food - to visvadevas, bhutas and pitru devatas.> And at the end of food, should take handful of water, drink half and> leave the other half around the plate - this and the remaining minimal> food in the plate goes to the departed ones who did not attain the> status of pitru devatas but are residing in raurava and other places.> > 4. Upbringing and teaching children, having progeny and raising them> well is a part of pitru yajna (one of the panca maha yajnas). It is good> to organize something for vamsa vriddhi, and it will surely make pitru> devatas happy.> >> > Of course, all this varies from the followers of one veda sakha to the> other, so this is not universal. However these are only general> guidelines.> >> > Shankar> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> > bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > Saturday, September 5, 2009 10:56:48 PM> > Shradha Paksha> >> >> > Dear Learned Members,> > Please guide as to what must we "Grihastas" do in this Paksha so as to> keep our departed ones happy, and provide them "sadgati" and also gain> their grace.> > In short how to take advantage from the Shradha Paksha.> > I am not a Karma kandi Pundit so do not know about these matters,> hence requesting.> > Please bifercate the "Karyas" which every "Grihastha" must do, which> must be done by Pundits and which must be done in normal course of Life.> > Copy Paste members from other websites please do not reply this post> and keep away please. Only those Learned members who really know about> these matters reply this post.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Dear Vinita ji, //We are tied to our pitris thru the DNA. Our DNA bears the imprint of the karma / thoughts of our ancestors. Are we trying to wash some of these karmas thru tarpana and daana? Are we releasing our pitris and ourselves of these karmas through this ritual...in order to inch towards moksha? // What You write above is not fantasy but the truth. I have watched certain programmes from abroad which agree to the above line of reasining. The book " Aghora " written by " Robert E Svoboda " agrees on this and explains it too well. Even our own Manusmriti trells us which types of foods offered to Brahamanas on Shradha give them appeasement of hunger for how much period of time. All above cannot be coincidences for they were written by different writers at various points of times. We ourselves note that many families have certain tendencies running in their families for generations which may not all be positive. In cases where they are negative, such rituals performed by the living descendants here on earth sincerely, surely effects the DNA of the living as well as those who are yet to be born, and also aim at providing sadgati to the departed. I for one, personally believe in this, and also what you mentioned about " annadana " . Thank You for the mail. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " shankar_mamta " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I would like to recommend the following link on tarpana: > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/tarpana/ > <http://www.vedicastrologer.org/tarpana/> > > As a person who has only recently been introduced to rituals (i always > had some resistance / block to performing them), i should have no > authority to talk about it. But here are some random thoughts i thought > i could share with u anyway. > > Right from my childhood when i saw shraadha being performed, i have > associated this fortnight with food. Recently, i came across a story > about daana veer Karna. It seems when he ascended to Vaikunth he was > showered with a lot of wealth...gold, silver, etc....but there was no > sign of anna / food. He had to once again descend to earth and perform > anna daan to take care of the deficiency in his previous daans. The > fortnight when he came down to earth to do this daana is known as pitra > paksha. > > So probably, in order to take the maximum " advantage " of this period, > anna daan is important. > > Tarpana is performed by pouring water on the palm of the hand. Water > element, they say, signifies moksha. > > From now on it is going to be sheer fantasy...so u may just ignore this. > > We are tied to our pitris thru the DNA. Our DNA bears the imprint of the > karma / thoughts of our ancestors. Are we trying to wash some of these > karmas thru tarpana and daana? Are we releasing our pitris and ourselves > of these karmas through this ritual...in order to inch towards moksha? > > :) > > Best regards, > > vinita > > > > > , " bhaskar_jyotish " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shankara Bharadwaj ji, > > > > Thank you for sparing time and replying to my Query. > > > > 1) My parents are both living. I was keen in making my Pitrus happy > and > > trying to help them for their sadgati This includes my Grandparents > and > > others from my own clan, and my Grandparents and one Uncle from > Maternal > > side. Hence I asked this Query. I did not go to Pundits because I do > not > > want any such type of elaborate ritual to be performed at my place or > > elsewhere for certain reasons. I am aware that for my maternal side I > do > > not need to do any actvities, but is this a rule that I cannot do so > and > > only their sons will do this (Sons means my maternal Uncles )? > > > > 2) You mentioned that tarpana does not need any officiating priest. So > > how does one do it without a priest ? Am I allowed to do it with both > > parents living ? > > > > 3) Am I allowed to donate food stuff in name of dead grandparents on > > their Tithi dates during the shradha paksha and make a mental request > to > > God, to please grant peace to their soul in return for this ? > > > > That point of raising the children well as part of Pitru Yajna is > > important and thanks for reminding the same. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , ShankaraBharadwaj > > Khandavalli shankarabharadwaj@ wrote: > > > > > > Tricky clause, and these are things you might be already knowing. > > Still let me venture - > > > > > > 1. Tarpana can be and should be given to the departed ones. For this > > there is no need for an officiating priest. > > > 2. For pinda pradana there should be a priest. > > > 3. In the normal course, one who has both parents should not do any > > apara offerings. But one who lost one or both parents should offer > three > > morcels before beginning food - to visvadevas, bhutas and pitru > devatas. > > And at the end of food, should take handful of water, drink half and > > leave the other half around the plate - this and the remaining minimal > > food in the plate goes to the departed ones who did not attain the > > status of pitru devatas but are residing in raurava and other places. > > > 4. Upbringing and teaching children, having progeny and raising them > > well is a part of pitru yajna (one of the panca maha yajnas). It is > good > > to organize something for vamsa vriddhi, and it will surely make pitru > > devatas happy. > > > > > > Of course, all this varies from the followers of one veda sakha to > the > > other, so this is not universal. However these are only general > > guidelines. > > > > > > Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Saturday, September 5, 2009 10:56:48 PM > > > Shradha Paksha > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > > Please guide as to what must we " Grihastas " do in this Paksha so as > to > > keep our departed ones happy, and provide them " sadgati " and also gain > > their grace. > > > In short how to take advantage from the Shradha Paksha. > > > I am not a Karma kandi Pundit so do not know about these matters, > > hence requesting. > > > Please bifercate the " Karyas " which every " Grihastha " must do, which > > must be done by Pundits and which must be done in normal course of > Life. > > > Copy Paste members from other websites please do not reply this post > > and keep away please. Only those Learned members who really know about > > these matters reply this post. > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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