Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Dear Vijay goel Ji This reminds me a a story of one Swami rama ( i read some where that he also born with ears piersed ) and it was rgrded as a lakshan of re birth of some tantric guru as there a tantric cult known as Kaan phata in North India mainly where the memebrs of this cult will hav piersed ears and story goes on Like this some guru frm himalayas came to see the baby and told mother to take care of this baby as it is rebirth of some sisyas who has born with a mission and he is sent to this family by himalayan yogies rgrds sunil nair , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Vijay goel Ji> > Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart .> > I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong> > even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original> shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to> validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this> a corrupted shloka> > it is some what like this> > manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in> lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus )> > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to> Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it> --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at> birth where as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in> some accident or some mishapps )> > > So i dont think this sloka can b taken here> > Now as regrds to the chart u posted> > Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show> some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) > and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna> and Moon is in gandanta too )> 3rd and 11th house shows both ears> i think karaka for ear 's is Jup> > still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with> ears piersed with my limited Knowledge .> > > rgrds sunil nair> > , "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> >> > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for> > pierced ears from birth.> >> >> > manden drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo> > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya> >> > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not> aspected> > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt.> >> > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears.> >> > Female:> > July 3, 1992> > Time: 13:25:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > Jaipur, India> >> > Rasi> > +--------------+> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ Ju / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ / Md |> > | x As x Me Mo |> > | / \ / \ Gk |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ 6 / Ve \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | Ra x Su |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ Ke / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > | \ / \ / |> > |SaR GL x x AL |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > | / HL \ / Ma \ |> > | / \ / \ |> > +--------------+> >> > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus +> > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna.> > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by> > Rashi Dristi.> > This dictum is partially applicable.> >> > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this> > chart to the members for their record and research.> >> > Thankyou,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Respected Sunilji, //karnachedo// karn means ears and chedo mean hole. does it means cut ? In Hindi Ched mean hole. Please clarify, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji > > Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart . > > I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong > > even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original > shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to > validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this > a corrupted shloka > > it is some what like this > > manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in > lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus ) > > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to > Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it > --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at > birth where as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in > some accident or some mishapps ) > > > So i dont think this sloka can b taken here > > Now as regrds to the chart u posted > > Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show > some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) > and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna > and Moon is in gandanta too ) > 3rd and 11th house shows both ears > i think karaka for ear 's is Jup > > still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with > ears piersed with my limited Knowledge . > > > rgrds sunil nair > > , " vijay.goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for > > pierced ears from birth. > > > > > > manden drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo > > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya > > > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not > aspected > > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt. > > > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears. > > > > Female: > > July 3, 1992 > > Time: 13:25:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > Jaipur, India > > > > Rasi > > +--------------+ > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ Ju / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / Md | > > | x As x Me Mo | > > | / \ / \ Gk | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ 6 / Ve \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | Ra x Su | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ Ke / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > |SaR GL x x AL | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / HL \ / Ma \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > +--------------+ > > > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus + > > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna. > > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by > > Rashi Dristi. > > This dictum is partially applicable. > > > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this > > chart to the members for their record and research. > > > > Thankyou, > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Dear Vijay Goel ji, The dictum is fully applicable provided the Lagna is Libra. Then the Lagna Lord Venus will be on Gemini sign. The said combination becomes true for Gemini sign (the sign where lagna lord is placed) and the result will fully manifest. As you could see, if we look from Gemini sign - * Moon in cancer is aspceted by Retro Saturn in Capricorn. * In the sign under consideration (usually termed Lagna; here the Lagna lord is placed in Gemini) i.e. Gemini sign, Sun and Venus are placed. * No benefic planet aspects lagna lord placed in Gemini The dictum is fully true, and becomes fully applicable - and thus the result. Hope this clarifies. The Manasagari quote reads - Mandena drisyate chandro lagne cha ravi bhargavau Subhagraha na drisyante karnachedo na samsaya[if Saturn is aspected by Saturn, and Venus and Sun is in lagna (or the sign under consideration), and if no benefic aspcts lagna (or the the sign under consideration), then the years of the native will be cut (in proper dasa period during his life time) for sure] Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Members,> > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for> pierced ears from birth.> > > manden drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo> subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya> > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected> by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt.> > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears.> > Female:> July 3, 1992> Time: 13:25:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> Jaipur, India> > Rasi> +--------------+> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ Ju / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / Md |> | x As x Me Mo |> | / \ / \ Gk |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 6 / Ve \ |> | / \ / \ |> | Ra x Su |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ Ke / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |SaR GL x x AL |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / HL \ / Ma \ |> | / \ / \ |> +--------------+> > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus +> ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna.> Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by> Rashi Dristi.> This dictum is partially applicable.> > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this> chart to the members for their record and research.> > Thankyou,> Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Dear M. Kursija,Could you please explain to me why you say in the second para of your post say that "it is always fearsome to be running the dasa of the lagna lord and antra of the 8th or maraka lord at birth?". What is the significance of this dasa if it comes at birth?Regards,Anita--- On Wed, 9/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija wrote:S.C. Kursija <sckursijaRe: Re: Both ears pierced from birth. Date: Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:25 PM Dear Vijay ji, Thanks for providing a chart with shloka. I will like to add that we should examine the chart from Karakamsha, Dreshkana, Ashatak varga and bhava chalit with dasha. The child is having the Virgo lagna. The child was running Mercury, the lagna lord major period and bhukti of Venus the 2nd lord and antra of Jupiter the karaka for ears. It is always fearsome that the native run the dasha of Lagna lord at birth and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord. If we see the bhava chalit, Mercury and Venus are combust in 10th with Sun and Sun is 12th lord representing the loss of health or a limb. The karaka for ear is Jupiter in 12th. Moon is aspected by retro Saturn. Saturn aspects Lagna and other planets in 10th from 4th with out any benefic aspect, Rahu occupies 3rd the ear. Mars in 8th aspecting Rahu in 3rd. All carry 4 bindu in its own Ashtaka varga or above. Examine the navamsha chart. The lagna is Virgo vargottam.Mercury posited in enemy sign in 3rd, Venus in 8th in enemy sign, Jupiter in 12th with Saturn and 8th lord Mars in lagna. So the dasha period is afflicted. Examine the Karakamsha chart. Lagna is Pisces.Sun and Moon is posited in lagna.aspected by Mars in 7th. Again Me/Ve/Ju are afflicted Jupiter with Saturn lord of 12th in 6th. Examine Dreshakana chart. Lagna is Virgo again. 6th lord Saturn is posited in lagna, aspecting 3rd house, and Mars and Jupiter from 12th. Me/Ve/Jupiter are afflicted. So we find that 12th lord is always with karaka Jupiter and 3rd lord. indicated loss of ear. I provide a chart of a male who lost his left eye in Rahu dasha. DOB 27 Jan 1981, TOB 16:30 Delhi Love and regards--- On Wed, 9/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth.ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:29 AM Dear Vijay goel Ji Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart . I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this a corrupted shloka it is some what like this manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus ) > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at birth where as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in some accident or some mishapps ) So i dont think this sloka can b taken here Now as regrds to the chart u posted Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna and Moon is in gandanta too ) 3rd and 11th house shows both ears i think karaka for ear 's is Jup still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with ears piersed with my limited Knowledge .rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Members,> > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for> pierced ears from birth.> > > manden drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo> subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya> > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected> by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt.> > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears.> > Female:> July 3, 1992> Time: 13:25:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> Jaipur, India> > Rasi> +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ Ju / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / Md |> | x As x Me Mo |> | / \ / \ Gk |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 6 / Ve \ |> | / \ / \ |> | Ra x Su |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ Ke / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |SaR GL x x AL |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / HL \ / Ma \ |> | / \ / \ |> +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus +> ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna.> Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by> Rashi Dristi.> This dictum is partially applicable.> > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this> chart to the members for their record and research.> > Thankyou,> Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Dear Anita ji, Thanks for the enquery. According to my experience dasha of lagna lord, particularly when afflicted, and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord or vice versa indicates balarishta or congenital medical problem to the child. Regards--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55Re: Re: Both ears pierced from birth. Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:15 AM Dear M. Kursija,Could you please explain to me why you say in the second para of your post say that "it is always fearsome to be running the dasa of the lagna lord and antra of the 8th or maraka lord at birth?". What is the significance of this dasa if it comes at birth?Regards,Anita--- On Wed, 9/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija wrote: S.C. Kursija <sckursijaRe: Re: Both ears pierced from birth. Date: Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:25 PM Dear Vijay ji, Thanks for providing a chart with shloka. I will like to add that we should examine the chart from Karakamsha, Dreshkana, Ashatak varga and bhava chalit with dasha. The child is having the Virgo lagna. The child was running Mercury, the lagna lord major period and bhukti of Venus the 2nd lord and antra of Jupiter the karaka for ears. It is always fearsome that the native run the dasha of Lagna lord at birth and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord. If we see the bhava chalit, Mercury and Venus are combust in 10th with Sun and Sun is 12th lord representing the loss of health or a limb. The karaka for ear is Jupiter in 12th. Moon is aspected by retro Saturn. Saturn aspects Lagna and other planets in 10th from 4th with out any benefic aspect, Rahu occupies 3rd the ear. Mars in 8th aspecting Rahu in 3rd. All carry 4 bindu in its own Ashtaka varga or above. Examine the navamsha chart. The lagna is Virgo vargottam.Mercury posited in enemy sign in 3rd, Venus in 8th in enemy sign, Jupiter in 12th with Saturn and 8th lord Mars in lagna. So the dasha period is afflicted. Examine the Karakamsha chart. Lagna is Pisces.Sun and Moon is posited in lagna.aspected by Mars in 7th. Again Me/Ve/Ju are afflicted Jupiter with Saturn lord of 12th in 6th. Examine Dreshakana chart. Lagna is Virgo again. 6th lord Saturn is posited in lagna, aspecting 3rd house, and Mars and Jupiter from 12th. Me/Ve/Jupiter are afflicted. So we find that 12th lord is always with karaka Jupiter and 3rd lord. indicated loss of ear. I provide a chart of a male who lost his left eye in Rahu dasha. DOB 27 Jan 1981, TOB 16:30 Delhi Love and regards--- On Wed, 9/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth.ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:29 AM Dear Vijay goel Ji Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart . I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this a corrupted shloka it is some what like this manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus ) > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at birth where as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in some accident or some mishapps ) So i dont think this sloka can b taken here Now as regrds to the chart u posted Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna and Moon is in gandanta too ) 3rd and 11th house shows both ears i think karaka for ear 's is Jup still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with ears piersed with my limited Knowledge .rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Members,> > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for> pierced ears from birth.> > > manden drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo> subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya> > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected> by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt.> > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears.> > Female:> July 3, 1992> Time: 13:25:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> Jaipur, India> > Rasi> +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ Ju / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / Md |> | x As x Me Mo |> | / \ / \ Gk |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ 6 / Ve \ |> | / \ / \ |> | Ra x Su |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ Ke / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> | \ / \ / |> |SaR GL x x AL |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / \ / \ |> | / HL \ / Ma \ |> | / \ / \ |> +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus +> ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna.> Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by> Rashi Dristi.> This dictum is partially applicable.> > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this> chart to the members for their record and research.> > Thankyou,> Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Respected Sunil nairji, Sreenadhji, Kurchijji, Neelamji, and others, Thankyou for presenting the views on her chart. She is my distance Nephew and was born with pierced ears, it is very perfect and natural and increased the beauty of child. Actually i was searching something in Mansagri and reads this sloke, so i put this on forum. This child was blessed by many saints in a her childhood due to blessings of her late grandfather. I have not heard of any major mishaps or any health problems till now. Thankyou & Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Oh my god, I never even heard of it. Thanks for enlightening me. > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Thu, 10/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija wrote: > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija > Re: Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 7:00 AM > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > Thanks for the enquery. According to my experience dasha of lagna lord, particularly when afflicted, and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord or vice versa indicates balarishta or congenital medical problem to the child. > Regards > > --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55 > > Re: Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > Dear M. Kursija, > Could you please explain to me why you say in the second para of your post say that " it is always fearsome to be running the dasa of the lagna lord and antra of the 8th or maraka lord at birth? " . What is the significance of this dasa if it comes at birth? > Regards, > Anita > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija > wrote: > > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:25 PM > > > Dear Vijay ji, > Thanks for providing a chart with shloka. I will like to add that we should examine the chart from Karakamsha, Dreshkana, Ashatak varga and bhava chalit with dasha. > The child is having the Virgo lagna. The child was running Mercury, the lagna lord major period and bhukti of Venus the 2nd lord and antra of Jupiter the karaka for ears. It is always fearsome that the native run the dasha of Lagna lord at birth and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord. > If we see the bhava chalit, Mercury and Venus are combust in 10th with Sun and Sun is 12th lord representing the loss of health or a limb. The karaka for ear is Jupiter in 12th. Moon is aspected by retro Saturn. Saturn aspects Lagna and other planets in 10th from 4th with out any benefic aspect, Rahu occupies 3rd the ear. Mars in 8th aspecting Rahu in 3rd. All carry 4 bindu in its own Ashtaka varga or above. > Examine the navamsha chart. The lagna is Virgo vargottam.Mercury posited in enemy sign in 3rd, Venus in 8th in enemy sign, Jupiter in 12th with Saturn and 8th lord Mars in lagna. So the dasha period is afflicted. > Examine the Karakamsha chart. Lagna is Pisces.Sun and Moon is posited in lagna.aspected by Mars in 7th. Again Me/Ve/Ju are afflicted Jupiter with Saturn lord of 12th in 6th. > Examine Dreshakana chart. Lagna is Virgo again. 6th lord Saturn is posited in lagna, aspecting 3rd house, and Mars and Jupiter from 12th. Me/Ve/Jupiter are afflicted. > So we find that 12th lord is always with karaka Jupiter and 3rd lord. indicated loss of ear. > > I provide a chart of a male who lost his left eye in Rahu dasha. > DOB 27 Jan 1981, TOB 16:30 Delhi > Love and regards > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:29 AM > > > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji > > Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart . > > I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong > > even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this a corrupted shloka > > it is some what like this > > manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus ) > > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at birth where > as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in some accident or some mishapps ) > > > So i dont think this sloka can b taken here > > Now as regrds to the chart u posted > > Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna and Moon is in gandanta too ) > 3rd and 11th house shows both ears > i think karaka for ear 's is Jup > > still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with ears piersed with my limited Knowledge . > > > rgrds sunil nair > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for > > pierced ears from birth. > > > > > > manden > drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo > > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya > > > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected > > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt. > > > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears. > > > > Female: > > July 3, 1992 > > Time: 13:25:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > Jaipur, India > > > > Rasi > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ Ju / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / Md | > > | x As x Me Mo | > > | / \ / \ Gk | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ 6 / Ve \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | Ra x Su | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ Ke / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > > |SaR GL x x AL | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / HL \ / Ma \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus + > > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna. > > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by > > Rashi Dristi. > > This dictum is partially applicable. > > > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this > > chart to the members for their record and research. > > > > Thankyou, > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Dear Sreenadh ji, Great. I like this very much. You search for something which we do not wish to spend time upon. This is real commitmment towards astrology. This shloka is indeed from the 4th Chapter given on Page 219, and the Shloka number is 53, and the title is " Karna Vichedha Yoga " . Shloka No.52 is titled as " Nasachedh Yoga " . The translation of " Karnavichedha Yoga as given by Shri Vijay Goel ji, should go like this (Translated by myself)- In Natal Birth Chart if the Moon aspects Saturn, or vice versa, and if Sun and Venus occupy the Lagna, and no benefics aspect (??? aspect what ??? I cant figure this out)then this Yoga is undoubetdly known as " KarnaCheda " . Now what is " Karna Cheda " I do not know. And not interested to know. It most probably has to do with ears, since Karna (Brother of the Pandavas) was also born at birth with ear rings in his ears naturally , and known as Karna as consequence, so obviously the word Karna means ears, and somebody here who is interested may check the Sanskrit dictionary ( I too have a fat one but do not have the inclinations to do so since this Yoga is not going to recur again and again in peoples charts, so I do not study and spend time on such uncommon Yogas). best wishes, Bhaskar. , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > It is in 4th Chapter (and NOT in 14th chapter as mentioned by Vijay > Goel ji -that must be a typo). You can find the quote in the Special > Yoga section, look for the sloka with a heading " Nasika cheda yoga " . In > the book I have the sloka numbering is not correct. In my copy of > Manasagari, the sloka is in Page 223. Hope that this will help you to > locate the said sloka. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " bhaskar_jyotish " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Vijay Goel ji, > > > > There are only 5 Chapters in " Maansagari " if I am not mistaken. Can > you > > give us the exact Chapter no, and shloka number too ? (Also correct me > > if I am wrong here). > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " vijay.goel " > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for > > > pierced ears from birth. > > > > > > > > > manden drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo > > > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya > > > > > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not > > aspected > > > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt. > > > > > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears. > > > > > > Female: > > > July 3, 1992 > > > Time: 13:25:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > Rasi > > > +--------------+ > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ Ju / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / Md | > > > | x As x Me Mo | > > > | / \ / \ Gk | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ 6 / Ve \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | Ra x Su | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ Ke / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > |SaR GL x x AL | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / HL \ / Ma \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus + > > > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna. > > > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna > by > > > Rashi Dristi. > > > This dictum is partially applicable. > > > > > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented > this > > > chart to the members for their record and research. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Dear Members, To me, all these dictums are valid but require fine tuning.Whether that tuning is done by Divisional charts or sub lord by KP method (I have not studies KP enogh, so may be Yogeshji may throw more light on this). regds , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Members, > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for > pierced ears from birth. > > > manden drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt. > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears. > > Female: > July 3, 1992 > Time: 13:25:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > Jaipur, India > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ Ju / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / Md | > | x As x Me Mo | > | / \ / \ Gk | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 6 / Ve \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Ra x Su | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ Ke / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |SaR GL x x AL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / HL \ / Ma \ | > | / \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus + > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna. > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by > Rashi Dristi. > This dictum is partially applicable. > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this > chart to the members for their record and research. > > Thankyou, > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Dear Karan, Please post your birth-details. Best Wishes, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " karanrajsharma " <karan wrote: > > Dear Manoj ji > > If i am not wrong i have Sun and Venus in Lagna and Moon has a full aspect of Saturn with no benefics aspecting the Lagna but i did not have pierced ears at time of Birth. > > best regards > > Karan > > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > My mother told me according her grand mother it is actually a very auspicious sign of birth of a spiritual child. There is one such child in my distant family also. I was hesitating to post since it may be considered " old womans tale " in a community of scientific astrologers. > > > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@> > > > > Friday, September 11, 2009 9:56:17 AM > > Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > > > > Respected Sunil nairji, Sreenadhji, Kurchijji, Neelamji, and others, > > > > Thankyou for presenting the views on her chart. > > > > She is my distance Nephew and was born with pierced ears, it is very perfect and natural and increased the beauty of child. Actually i was searching something in Mansagri and reads this sloke, so i put this on forum. > > > > This child was blessed by many saints in a her childhood due to blessings of her late grandfather. > > I have not heard of any major mishaps or any health problems till now. > > > > Thankyou & Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Oh my god, I never even heard of it. Thanks for enlightening me. > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 7:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > Thanks for the enquery. According to my experience dasha of lagna lord, particularly when afflicted, and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord or vice versa indicates balarishta or congenital medical problem to the child. > > > Regards > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55 > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M. Kursija, > > > Could you please explain to me why you say in the second para of your post say that " it is always fearsome to be running the dasa of the lagna lord and antra of the 8th or maraka lord at birth? " . What is the significance of this dasa if it comes at birth? > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija > wrote: > > > > > > > > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > Thanks for providing a chart with shloka. I will like to add that we should examine the chart from Karakamsha, Dreshkana, Ashatak varga and bhava chalit with dasha. > > > The child is having the Virgo lagna. The child was running Mercury, the lagna lord major period and bhukti of Venus the 2nd lord and antra of Jupiter the karaka for ears. It is always fearsome that the native run the dasha of Lagna lord at birth and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord. > > > If we see the bhava chalit, Mercury and Venus are combust in 10th with Sun and Sun is 12th lord representing the loss of health or a limb. The karaka for ear is Jupiter in 12th. Moon is aspected by retro Saturn. Saturn aspects Lagna and other planets in 10th from 4th with out any benefic aspect, Rahu occupies 3rd the ear. Mars in 8th aspecting Rahu in 3rd. All carry 4 bindu in its own Ashtaka varga or above. > > > Examine the navamsha chart. The lagna is Virgo vargottam.Mercury posited in enemy sign in 3rd, Venus in 8th in enemy sign, Jupiter in 12th with Saturn and 8th lord Mars in lagna. So the dasha period is afflicted. > > > Examine the Karakamsha chart. Lagna is Pisces.Sun and Moon is posited in lagna.aspected by Mars in 7th. Again Me/Ve/Ju are afflicted Jupiter with Saturn lord of 12th in 6th. > > > Examine Dreshakana chart. Lagna is Virgo again. 6th lord Saturn is posited in lagna, aspecting 3rd house, and Mars and Jupiter from 12th. Me/Ve/Jupiter are afflicted. > > > So we find that 12th lord is always with karaka Jupiter and 3rd lord. indicated loss of ear. > > > > > > I provide a chart of a male who lost his left eye in Rahu dasha. > > > DOB 27 Jan 1981, TOB 16:30 Delhi > > > Love and regards > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji > > > > > > Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart . > > > > > > I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong > > > > > > even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this a corrupted shloka > > > > > > it is some what like this > > > > > > manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus ) > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at birth where > > > as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in some accident or some mishapps ) > > > > > > > > > So i dont think this sloka can b taken here > > > > > > Now as regrds to the chart u posted > > > > > > Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna and Moon is in gandanta too ) > > > 3rd and 11th house shows both ears > > > i think karaka for ear 's is Jup > > > > > > still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with ears piersed with my limited Knowledge . > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for > > > > pierced ears from birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > manden > > > drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya > > > > > > > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected > > > > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt. > > > > > > > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears. > > > > > > > > Female: > > > > July 3, 1992 > > > > Time: 13:25:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > Rasi > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > | \ / \ Ju / | > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > | \ / \ / Md | > > > > | x As x Me Mo | > > > > | / \ / \ Gk | > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > | / \ 6 / Ve \ | > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > | Ra x Su | > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > | \ / \ Ke / | > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > |SaR GL x x AL | > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > | / HL \ / Ma \ | > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus + > > > > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna. > > > > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by > > > > Rashi Dristi. > > > > This dictum is partially applicable. > > > > > > > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this > > > > chart to the members for their record and research. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Dear Vijay Ji Please find my details:- DOB:- 16th Nov 1978, TOB:-5:25 a.m Longitude:-76E34'00 Latitude:-28N54'00 best regards Karan , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Karan, > > Please post your birth-details. > > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > , " karanrajsharma " <karan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj ji > > > > If i am not wrong i have Sun and Venus in Lagna and Moon has a full aspect of Saturn with no benefics aspecting the Lagna but i did not have pierced ears at time of Birth. > > > > best regards > > > > Karan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > > > My mother told me according her grand mother it is actually a very auspicious sign of birth of a spiritual child. There is one such child in my distant family also. I was hesitating to post since it may be considered " old womans tale " in a community of scientific astrologers. > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@> > > > > > > Friday, September 11, 2009 9:56:17 AM > > > Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunil nairji, Sreenadhji, Kurchijji, Neelamji, and others, > > > > > > Thankyou for presenting the views on her chart. > > > > > > She is my distance Nephew and was born with pierced ears, it is very perfect and natural and increased the beauty of child. Actually i was searching something in Mansagri and reads this sloke, so i put this on forum. > > > > > > This child was blessed by many saints in a her childhood due to blessings of her late grandfather. > > > I have not heard of any major mishaps or any health problems till now. > > > > > > Thankyou & Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh my god, I never even heard of it. Thanks for enlightening me. > > > > Regards, > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 7:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > Thanks for the enquery. According to my experience dasha of lagna lord, particularly when afflicted, and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord or vice versa indicates balarishta or congenital medical problem to the child. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55 > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M. Kursija, > > > > Could you please explain to me why you say in the second para of your post say that " it is always fearsome to be running the dasa of the lagna lord and antra of the 8th or maraka lord at birth? " . What is the significance of this dasa if it comes at birth? > > > > Regards, > > > > Anita > > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > Thanks for providing a chart with shloka. I will like to add that we should examine the chart from Karakamsha, Dreshkana, Ashatak varga and bhava chalit with dasha. > > > > The child is having the Virgo lagna. The child was running Mercury, the lagna lord major period and bhukti of Venus the 2nd lord and antra of Jupiter the karaka for ears. It is always fearsome that the native run the dasha of Lagna lord at birth and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord. > > > > If we see the bhava chalit, Mercury and Venus are combust in 10th with Sun and Sun is 12th lord representing the loss of health or a limb. The karaka for ear is Jupiter in 12th. Moon is aspected by retro Saturn. Saturn aspects Lagna and other planets in 10th from 4th with out any benefic aspect, Rahu occupies 3rd the ear. Mars in 8th aspecting Rahu in 3rd. All carry 4 bindu in its own Ashtaka varga or above. > > > > Examine the navamsha chart. The lagna is Virgo vargottam.Mercury posited in enemy sign in 3rd, Venus in 8th in enemy sign, Jupiter in 12th with Saturn and 8th lord Mars in lagna. So the dasha period is afflicted. > > > > Examine the Karakamsha chart. Lagna is Pisces.Sun and Moon is posited in lagna.aspected by Mars in 7th. Again Me/Ve/Ju are afflicted Jupiter with Saturn lord of 12th in 6th. > > > > Examine Dreshakana chart. Lagna is Virgo again. 6th lord Saturn is posited in lagna, aspecting 3rd house, and Mars and Jupiter from 12th. Me/Ve/Jupiter are afflicted. > > > > So we find that 12th lord is always with karaka Jupiter and 3rd lord. indicated loss of ear. > > > > > > > > I provide a chart of a male who lost his left eye in Rahu dasha. > > > > DOB 27 Jan 1981, TOB 16:30 Delhi > > > > Love and regards > > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart . > > > > > > > > I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong > > > > > > > > even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this a corrupted shloka > > > > > > > > it is some what like this > > > > > > > > manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus ) > > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at birth where > > > > as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in some accident or some mishapps ) > > > > > > > > > > > > So i dont think this sloka can b taken here > > > > > > > > Now as regrds to the chart u posted > > > > > > > > Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna and Moon is in gandanta too ) > > > > 3rd and 11th house shows both ears > > > > i think karaka for ear 's is Jup > > > > > > > > still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with ears piersed with my limited Knowledge . > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for > > > > > pierced ears from birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manden > > > > drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo > > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya > > > > > > > > > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected > > > > > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt. > > > > > > > > > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears. > > > > > > > > > > Female: > > > > > July 3, 1992 > > > > > Time: 13:25:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > Rasi > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > | \ / \ Ju / | > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > | \ / \ / Md | > > > > > | x As x Me Mo | > > > > > | / \ / \ Gk | > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > | / \ 6 / Ve \ | > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > | Ra x Su | > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > | \ / \ Ke / | > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > > |SaR GL x x AL | > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > | / HL \ / Ma \ | > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus + > > > > > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna. > > > > > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by > > > > > Rashi Dristi. > > > > > This dictum is partially applicable. > > > > > > > > > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this > > > > > chart to the members for their record and research. > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Dear Karan,> DOB:- 16th Nov 1978,> TOB:-5:25 a.m> Longitude:-76E34'00> Latitude:-28N54'00Libra Lagna with retro venus + sun in it, moon in 8H aspected by saturn from 11H.In your chart this dictum is fully applicable.Query arises :1) Did you have any ear cut even after birth (either in ceremony or in some accident) if yes when ?2) Now on the following antardasa did you had any type of cut in ears.Vimsottari Dasa: Moon MD: 1976-04-20 - 1986-04-21 Antardasas in this MD: Sat: 1980-07-21 - 1982-02-19 Ven: 1984-02-20 - 1985-10-20 Sun: 1985-10-20 - 1986-04-21Please clarify,Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , "karanrajsharma" <karan wrote:>> Dear Vijay Ji> > Please find my details:-> DOB:- 16th Nov 1978,> TOB:-5:25 a.m> Longitude:-76E34'00> Latitude:-28N54'00> > best regards> > Karan> > > > , "vijay.goel" goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Karan,> > > > Please post your birth-details.> > > > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > , "karanrajsharma" <karan@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Manoj ji> > > > > > If i am not wrong i have Sun and Venus in Lagna and Moon has a full aspect of Saturn with no benefics aspecting the Lagna but i did not have pierced ears at time of Birth.> > > > > > best regards> > > > > > Karan> > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > My mother told me according her grand mother it is actually a very auspicious sign of birth of a spiritual child. There is one such child in my distant family also. I was hesitating to post since it may be considered "old womans tale" in a community of scientific astrologers.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@>> > > > > > > > Friday, September 11, 2009 9:56:17 AM> > > > Re: Both ears pierced from birth.> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunil nairji, Sreenadhji, Kurchijji, Neelamji, and others,> > > > > > > > Thankyou for presenting the views on her chart.> > > > > > > > She is my distance Nephew and was born with pierced ears, it is very perfect and natural and increased the beauty of child. Actually i was searching something in Mansagri and reads this sloke, so i put this on forum.> > > > > > > > This child was blessed by many saints in a her childhood due to blessings of her late grandfather.> > > > I have not heard of any major mishaps or any health problems till now.> > > > > > > > Thankyou & Regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@ ..> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Oh my god, I never even heard of it. Thanks for enlightening me. > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Anita> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..>> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 7:00 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji,> > > > > Thanks for the enquery. According to my experience dasha of lagna lord, particularly when afflicted, and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord or vice versa indicates balarishta or congenital medical problem to the child.> > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Anita R ash.rsh55 > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anita R ash.rsh55 >> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:15 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M. Kursija,> > > > > Could you please explain to me why you say in the second para of your post say that "it is always fearsome to be running the dasa of the lagna lord and antra of the 8th or maraka lord at birth?". What is the significance of this dasa if it comes at birth?> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Anita> > > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, S.C. Kursija sckursija > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S.C. Kursija sckursija >> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:25 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > Thanks for providing a chart with shloka. I will like to add that we should examine the chart from Karakamsha, Dreshkana, Ashatak varga and bhava chalit with dasha. > > > > > The child is having the Virgo lagna. The child was running Mercury, the lagna lord major period and bhukti of Venus the 2nd lord and antra of Jupiter the karaka for ears. It is always fearsome that the native run the dasha of Lagna lord at birth and bhukti of maraka or 8th lord.> > > > > If we see the bhava chalit, Mercury and Venus are combust in 10th with Sun and Sun is 12th lord representing the loss of health or a limb. The karaka for ear is Jupiter in 12th. Moon is aspected by retro Saturn. Saturn aspects Lagna and other planets in 10th from 4th with out any benefic aspect, Rahu occupies 3rd the ear. Mars in 8th aspecting Rahu in 3rd. All carry 4 bindu in its own Ashtaka varga or above.> > > > > Examine the navamsha chart. The lagna is Virgo vargottam.Mercury posited in enemy sign in 3rd, Venus in 8th in enemy sign, Jupiter in 12th with Saturn and 8th lord Mars in lagna. So the dasha period is afflicted.> > > > > Examine the Karakamsha chart. Lagna is Pisces.Sun and Moon is posited in lagna.aspected by Mars in 7th. Again Me/Ve/Ju are afflicted Jupiter with Saturn lord of 12th in 6th.> > > > > Examine Dreshakana chart. Lagna is Virgo again. 6th lord Saturn is posited in lagna, aspecting 3rd house, and Mars and Jupiter from 12th. Me/Ve/Jupiter are afflicted.> > > > > So we find that 12th lord is always with karaka Jupiter and 3rd lord. indicated loss of ear.> > > > > > > > > > I provide a chart of a male who lost his left eye in Rahu dasha.> > > > > DOB 27 Jan 1981, TOB 16:30 Delhi> > > > > Love and regards> > > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in>> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced from birth.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:29 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent chart .> > > > > > > > > > I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong > > > > > > > > > > even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in original shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has the text to validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a possibility that this a corrupted shloka > > > > > > > > > > it is some what like this > > > > > > > > > > manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon and mars in lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and venus ) > > > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha graha s to Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt abt it --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing --happend at birth where> > > > > as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in some accident or some mishapps ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i dont think this sloka can b taken here > > > > > > > > > > Now as regrds to the chart u posted > > > > > > > > > > Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka can show some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly afflicted ) and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) ,also lagna and Moon is in gandanta too ) > > > > > 3rd and 11th house shows both ears > > > > > i think karaka for ear 's is Jup > > > > > > > > > > still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b born with ears piersed with my limited Knowledge .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > > > > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th chapter for> > > > > > pierced ears from birth.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manden> > > > > drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo> > > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya> > > > > > > > > > > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna not aspected> > > > > > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no doubt.> > > > > > > > > > > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears.> > > > > > > > > > > > Female:> > > > > > July 3, 1992> > > > > > Time: 13:25:00> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi> > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > > | \ / \ Ju / |> > > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > > | \ / \ / Md |> > > > > > | x As x Me Mo |> > > > > > | / \ / \ Gk |> > > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > > | / \ 6 / Ve \ |> > > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > > | Ra x Su |> > > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > > | \ / \ Ke / |> > > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > > | \ / \ / |> > > > > >> > > > > |SaR GL x x AL |> > > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > > | / HL \ / Ma \ |> > > > > > | / \ / \ |> > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > > > > > > > > > > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ venus +> > > > > > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna.> > > > > > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting lagna by> > > > > > Rashi Dristi.> > > > > > This dictum is partially applicable.> > > > > > > > > > > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have presented this> > > > > > chart to the members for their record and research.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Dear Sunil Nairji Overall my health since birth has been fine. My Rahu Dasha has been with ups and downs in terms of peace of mind but i have been steadily growing in my profession, Yes i have never been satisfied with my profession, this is true, it is not work and money but peace. I am not sure if you would call it digestive problem but yes i have had severe Acidity problems and currently i am under medication for the same. Further i checked with my parents and my ears were not pierced at birth and i asked them then did anyone suggest my name to be kept Karan and my father shared that he was reading the book Mritunjay at the time when i was born so he kept my name so. Please let me know if you have any queries. Thank you best regards Karan , " vijay.goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Karan ji, > > The following analysis is made for you and there is typo mistake (referred to me) by respected shri Sunil Nairji. > Please make a suitable reply to him on your health and job related queries > > Thankyou, > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > , " astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Ji > > > > I think the special combinations givn in Manasa sagari is need not > > happen at birth itself ,it may happen in suitable Dasa s > > > > As dasa s are frutifiers of karma and its results it may happen in any > > of the period of suitable planets . > > Also any such duryoga s we hav to see the dignity of planets ,so i dont > > Know if it is applicable for leo Lagna or venusian lagna s as it make > > the Lagna lord in lagna Yoga too > > > > But On further analaysis the Lagan lord also afflicted and even some > > person may argue it may worsen the Yoga but we hav to see in practical > > charts > > > > I think shri Rajiv Gandhi has this Yoga ,but Lagna has benefic Planets > > Like jup and Merc also present in the yoga and the yoga cannot fully > > apply here ( i dont hav his details now and was quoting frm memory ) > > > > but in ur case Most of the dasa s already passed has no relation with > > the Yoga > > > > how was ur rahu dasa and How was ur health since birth in general and do > > u hav any digestiv problems ,also tell me abt ur profession and Job > > satisfaction till Now > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > , " karanrajsharma " > > <karan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Ji > > > > > > Please find my details:- > > > DOB:- 16th Nov 1978, > > > TOB:-5:25 a.m > > > Longitude:-76E34'00 > > > Latitude:-28N54'00 > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > Karan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijay.goel " goyalvj@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Karan, > > > > > > > > Please post your birth-details. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > , " karanrajsharma " > > <karan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > If i am not wrong i have Sun and Venus in Lagna and Moon has a > > full aspect of Saturn with no benefics aspecting the Lagna but i did not > > have pierced ears at time of Birth. > > > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > > > Karan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My mother told me according her grand mother it is actually a > > very auspicious sign of birth of a spiritual child. There is one such > > child in my distant family also. I was hesitating to post since it may > > be considered " old womans tale " in a community of scientific > > astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, September 11, 2009 9:56:17 AM > > > > > > Re: Both ears pierced from > > birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunil nairji, Sreenadhji, Kurchijji, Neelamji, and > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou for presenting the views on her chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > She is my distance Nephew and was born with pierced ears, it is > > very perfect and natural and increased the beauty of child. Actually i > > was searching something in Mansagri and reads this sloke, so i put this > > on forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > This child was blessed by many saints in a her childhood due to > > blessings of her late grandfather. > > > > > > I have not heard of any major mishaps or any health problems > > till now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou & Regards, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R > > <ash.rsh55@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my god, I never even heard of it. Thanks for enlightening > > me. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/9/09, S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S.C. Kursija <sckursija@ ..> > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced > > from birth. > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 7:00 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > Thanks for the enquery. According to my experience dasha of > > lagna lord, particularly when afflicted, and bhukti of maraka or 8th > > lord or vice versa indicates balarishta or congenital medical problem to > > the child. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Anita R ash.rsh55 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anita R ash.rsh55 > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced > > from birth. > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear M. Kursija, > > > > > > > Could you please explain to me why you say in the second para > > of your post say that " it is always fearsome to be running the dasa of > > the lagna lord and antra of the 8th or maraka lord at birth? " . What is > > the significance of this dasa if it comes at birth? > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, S.C. Kursija sckursija > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S.C. Kursija sckursija > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced > > from birth. > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 2:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay ji, > > > > > > > Thanks for providing a chart with shloka. I will like to add > > that we should examine the chart from Karakamsha, Dreshkana, Ashatak > > varga and bhava chalit with dasha. > > > > > > > The child is having the Virgo lagna. The child was running > > Mercury, the lagna lord major period and bhukti of Venus the 2nd lord > > and antra of Jupiter the karaka for ears. It is always fearsome that the > > native run the dasha of Lagna lord at birth and bhukti of maraka or 8th > > lord. > > > > > > > If we see the bhava chalit, Mercury and Venus are combust in > > 10th with Sun and Sun is 12th lord representing the loss of health or a > > limb. The karaka for ear is Jupiter in 12th. Moon is aspected by retro > > Saturn. Saturn aspects Lagna and other planets in 10th from 4th with out > > any benefic aspect, Rahu occupies 3rd the ear. Mars in 8th aspecting > > Rahu in 3rd. All carry 4 bindu in its own Ashtaka varga or above. > > > > > > > Examine the navamsha chart. The lagna is Virgo > > vargottam.Mercury posited in enemy sign in 3rd, Venus in 8th in enemy > > sign, Jupiter in 12th with Saturn and 8th lord Mars in lagna. So the > > dasha period is afflicted. > > > > > > > Examine the Karakamsha chart. Lagna is Pisces.Sun and Moon is > > posited in lagna.aspected by Mars in 7th. Again Me/Ve/Ju are afflicted > > Jupiter with Saturn lord of 12th in 6th. > > > > > > > Examine Dreshakana chart. Lagna is Virgo again. 6th lord > > Saturn is posited in lagna, aspecting 3rd house, and Mars and Jupiter > > from 12th. Me/Ve/Jupiter are afflicted. > > > > > > > So we find that 12th lord is always with karaka Jupiter and > > 3rd lord. indicated loss of ear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I provide a chart of a male who lost his left eye in Rahu > > dasha. > > > > > > > DOB 27 Jan 1981, TOB 16:30 Delhi > > > > > > > Love and regards > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 9/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ > > .co. in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ .co. in> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Both ears pierced > > from birth. > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing up a discussion and posting a relevent > > chart . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Intrepretation of this shoka is wrong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even there is a possibility that some missing also happened in > > original shloka ( i dont hav text with me and i request those who has > > the text to validate the sloka ) in Text itself .Or there is a > > possibility that this a corrupted shloka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is some what like this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manden drisyte ( sani is aspecting the )candaro lagane( Moon > > and mars in lagna ) ca ravibhargavo ( also same time aspecting sun and > > venus ) > > > > > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti ( also there is No aspect of subha > > graha s to Lagna ) karnachedo na sansya ( his ear s will b cut no doubt > > abt it --Note here it is not talking abt karna vedha -ear piersing > > --happend at birth where > > > > > > > as it says in due cource of time his ear s will get cut in > > some accident or some mishapps ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i dont think this sloka can b taken here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now as regrds to the chart u posted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other wise any problems to Lagna and moon and lagna karaka > > can show some birth defects ( here u can see MOOn and merc ( doubly > > afflicted ) and sun is afflcited along with venus ( karaka for face ) > > ,also lagna and Moon is in gandanta too ) > > > > > > > 3rd and 11th house shows both ears > > > > > > > i think karaka for ear 's is Jup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still to predict earlier is difficult that this baby will b > > born with ears piersed with my limited Knowledge . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In classical text 'MANSAGRI', their is a dictum in 14th > > chapter for > > > > > > > > pierced ears from birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manden > > > > > > > drisyte candaro lagane ca ravibhargavo > > > > > > > > subhagraha na pacyanti karnachedo na sansya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==>If Saturn aspects moon and sun+venus is in lagna, lagna > > not aspected > > > > > > > > by any benefic, native is born with pierced ears with no > > doubt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One know a relative of mine is born with pierced both ears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female: > > > > > > > > July 3, 1992 > > > > > > > > Time: 13:25:00 > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi > > > > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ Ju / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / Md | > > > > > > > > | x As x Me Mo | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ Gk | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > > > > | / \ 6 / Ve \ | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > > > > | Ra x Su | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ Ke / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > | \ / \ / | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |SaR GL x x AL | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > > > > | / HL \ / Ma \ | > > > > > > > > | / \ / \ | > > > > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In kanya lagna , Here Moon is aspected by retro saturn, sun+ > > venus + > > > > > > > > ketu is in 10th house, NO benefic aspect on lagna. > > > > > > > > Only venus + sun is not in lagna but in 10th house aspecting > > lagna by > > > > > > > > Rashi Dristi. > > > > > > > > This dictum is partially applicable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since this type of combination are rare to find, i have > > presented this > > > > > > > > chart to the members for their record and research. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Vijay 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