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Dear List Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the results Natal Chart April 25, 1957Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not adjusted by the poster ) Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00" BIR ,Maharashtra, IndiaLunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - ChaitraTithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person who posted it @@@@@@@@@@I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented the blind quiz

 

This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment.

He is just starving for living.

NO much income from astrologer as business.

current position No home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole

family is problem . two unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and

charctorless behaviour of many family members.

HE is eating on charity base everyday at somebody's home.

Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth .

Literally NOT fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu

in mars house.. mars saturn opposite to each other showing dearture

from family..and oppose too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first

house ....only..giving people's love...he is not called too mad.

only some of people donate him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living.

saturn dasha 80 to 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th house.....again.

only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house ...gives some

vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come abosoultely true

without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk abruptly he is

saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from him take

in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in cups...

I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i found

kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his

chart...vedic style helped me a lot...

i had asked him to move from his own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.

He is a good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this

chart as a shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered..

he is not hot headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric...

He is good paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give

money . unless u market it ..He is not good marketing person of

himself..due to his NOT FULLY MAD ness.

mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of mars...not showing good sign.

Rest all i hope ....good death at least for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death.

I hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"

Which i like to give to all astrologers. .for study

but no one predicted he is starving for food and money

such charts helpto learn more.

thanx for ur support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.

posting one more chart in 2-3 days.

rajiv@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it is already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick to max basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in practical charts .rgrds sunil nair

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Respected Shri Sunil Ji,

 

Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data considering the

time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?

 

Regards

 

Chandu2Chill

 

 

, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

Dear List

 

Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in

another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the

results

 

Natal Chart

 

April 25, 1957

Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not

adjusted by the poster )

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 75 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 59' 00 "

BIR ,Maharashtra, India

 

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra

> Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)

> Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)

> Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)

> Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)

>

>

> Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)

> Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)

>

>

>

>

> here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person who

> posted it

>

> @@@@@@@@@@

> I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented the

> blind quiz

>

> This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in

> BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving for

> living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current position No

> home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem . two

> unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless behaviour of

> many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at somebody's

> home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally NOT

> fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars house.. mars

> saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and oppose

> too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house ....only..giving

> people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people donate

> him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha 80 to

> 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

> now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th

> house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house ...gives

> some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come abosoultely

> true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk abruptly

> he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from him

> take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in

> cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i found

> kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his

> chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move from his

> own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now. He is a

> good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart as a

> shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not hot

> headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good

> paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money . unless u

> market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to his NOT

> FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of

> mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at least

> for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death. I

> hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are " CLUMSY " Which i

> like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted he is

> starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx for ur

> support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.

> posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv

>

> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

>

> Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it is

> already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis

>

> still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick to max

> basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in

> practical charts .

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

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Dear chandu Ji sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any further details he can furnish or guide us so strt ur analysis rgrds sunil nair , "CP" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > Regards> > Chandu2Chill> > > , "astro_tellerkerala" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Dear List> > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> results> > Natal Chart> > April 25, 1957> Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> adjusted by the poster )> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > > > > > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person who> > posted it> > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented the> > blind quiz> > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in> > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving for> > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current position No> > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem . two> > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless behaviour of> > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at somebody's> > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally NOT> > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars house.. mars> > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and oppose> > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house ....only..giving> > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people donate> > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha 80 to > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house ...gives> > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come abosoultely> > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk abruptly> > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from him> > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in> > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i found> > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move from his> > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now. He is a> > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart as a> > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not hot> > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money . unless u> > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to his NOT> > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of> > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at least> > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death. I> > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY" Which i> > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted he is> > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx for ur> > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.> > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it is> > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick to max> > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > practical charts .> > > > rgrds sunil nair> >>

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Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,

 

Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet looked into

the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna then i am

wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV points and trying to

learn about Ashtkavarga principles..

 

I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy but needs to

search) i think a year back or so, there was an article about Shri C. S. Patel

ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs observation says. i.e.

 

I am re-quoting below:

 

**If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart then the

native lives like a KING!!!***

 

Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30 10H-32, 11H-38

bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0 point contribution in 7H

LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points in 7H these significance can be

used while judging the TRANSIT still i am unable to understand despite many/more

benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!

 

I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members here may

shed some light on this...

 

I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this chart has

been already discussed and still can be discussed with our Traditional Astrology

Method also..

 

And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or perhaps

mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..

 

let's hear from learned members out there.....

 

Regards

 

Chandu2Chill

 

 

, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

Dear chandu Ji

 

sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,

 

i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any

further details he can furnish or guide us

 

so strt ur analysis

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

> , " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data

> considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> >

> > , " astro_tellerkerala "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear List

> >

> > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in

> > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the

> > results

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > April 25, 1957

> > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not

> > adjusted by the poster )

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 75 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 59' 00 "

> > BIR ,Maharashtra, India

> >

> > >

> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra

> > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)

> > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)

> > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)

> > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)

> > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)

> > >

> > >

> > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)

> > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person

> who

> > > posted it

> > >

> > > @@@@@@@@@@

> > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented

> the

> > > blind quiz

> > >

> > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in

> > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving for

> > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current position

> No

> > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .

> two

> > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless behaviour of

> > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at

> somebody's

> > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally

> NOT

> > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars house..

> mars

> > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and

> oppose

> > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house

> ....only..giving

> > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people

> donate

> > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha 80 to

> > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

> > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th

> > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house

> ...gives

> > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come

> abosoultely

> > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk

> abruptly

> > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from

> him

> > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in

> > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i

> found

> > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his

> > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move from

> his

> > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now. He

> is a

> > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart as

> a

> > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not hot

> > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good

> > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .

> unless u

> > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to his

> NOT

> > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of

> > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at

> least

> > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death.

> I

> > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are " CLUMSY " Which

> i

> > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted he

> is

> > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx

> for ur

> > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.

> > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv

> > >

> > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

> > >

> > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it is

> > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis

> > >

> > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick to

> max

> > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in

> > > practical charts .

> > >

> > > rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> >

>

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Dear chandu Ji sure ,i am not very much comfortable with traditional defenitions of ashta varga and i dont Know if there is any other secret may b in with traditonal Guru/families s in india I dont Know Much abt CS patels contribution tho even what ever is he says ( which u quoted ) also in traditonal concepts ( i mean which is available in print ) even i know he is using Devakerala methods but let me say i am yet to fully devote my time in it .MY question was is any body can see any thing spl in the chart just using the basics of astrology ( tho Many may say since events r known it may amnt to fitting in astroloogy theorems to a Known chart ) rgrds sunil nair , "CP" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,> > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna then i am wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..> > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs observation says. i.e. > > I am re-quoting below:> > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart then the native lives like a KING!!!***> > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0 point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still i am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!> > I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members here may shed some light on this...> > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our Traditional Astrology Method also..> > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..> > let's hear from learned members out there.....> > Regards> > Chandu2Chill> > > , "astro_tellerkerala" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Dear chandu Ji> > sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,> > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any> further details he can furnish or guide us> > so strt ur analysis> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "CP" <nanna_id2006@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data> > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear List> > >> > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> > > results> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > April 25, 1957> > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> > > adjusted by the poster )> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > >> > > >> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > >> > > >> > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person> > who> > > > posted it> > > >> > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented> > the> > > > blind quiz> > > >> > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir in> > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving for> > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current position> > No> > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .> > two> > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless behaviour of> > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at> > somebody's> > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally> > NOT> > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars house.. > > mars> > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and> > oppose> > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house> > ....only..giving> > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people> > donate> > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha 80 to> > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house> > ...gives> > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come> > abosoultely> > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk> > abruptly> > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited from> > him> > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th house..in> > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i> > found> > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move from> > his> > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now. He> > is a> > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart as> > a> > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not hot> > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .> > unless u> > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to his> > NOT> > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi of> > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at> > least> > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till death.> > I> > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY" Which> > i> > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted he> > is> > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx> > for ur> > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and early.> > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > >> > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > >> > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it is> > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > >> > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick to> > max> > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > > > practical charts .> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

 

I have the following in my horoscope-

 

Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32

 

BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal person.

 

In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show great

savings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, my

pockets are empty by evening.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " CP " <nanna_id2006

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,

>

> Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet

looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna

then i am wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV

points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..

>

> I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy

but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article

about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs

observation says. i.e.

>

> I am re-quoting below:

>

> **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart

then the native lives like a KING!!!***

>

> Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30

10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0

point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points

in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still i

am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and

11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!

>

> I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members

here may shed some light on this...

>

> I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this

chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our

Traditional Astrology Method also..

>

> And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or

perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..

>

> let's hear from learned members out there.....

>

> Regards

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

>

> , " astro_tellerkerala "

astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

>

> Dear chandu Ji

>

> sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,

>

> i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any

> further details he can furnish or guide us

>

> so strt ur analysis

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> > , " CP "

<nanna_id2006@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data

> > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Chandu2Chill

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

" astro_tellerkerala "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear List

> > >

> > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in

> > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the

> > > results

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > April 25, 1957

> > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not

> > > adjusted by the poster )

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 75 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 59' 00 "

> > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra

> > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)

> > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)

> > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)

> > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)

> > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)

> > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person

> > who

> > > > posted it

> > > >

> > > > @@@@@@@@@@

> > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented

> > the

> > > > blind quiz

> > > >

> > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir

in

> > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving

for

> > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current

position

> > No

> > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .

> > two

> > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless

behaviour of

> > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at

> > somebody's

> > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally

> > NOT

> > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars

house..

> > mars

> > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and

> > oppose

> > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house

> > ....only..giving

> > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people

> > donate

> > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha

80 to

> > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

> > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th

> > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house

> > ...gives

> > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come

> > abosoultely

> > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk

> > abruptly

> > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited

from

> > him

> > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th

house..in

> > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i

> > found

> > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his

> > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move

from

> > his

> > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.

He

> > is a

> > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart

as

> > a

> > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not

hot

> > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good

> > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .

> > unless u

> > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to

his

> > NOT

> > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi

of

> > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at

> > least

> > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till

death.

> > I

> > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are " CLUMSY "

Which

> > i

> > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted

he

> > is

> > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx

> > for ur

> > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and

early.

> > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv

> > > >

> > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

> > > >

> > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it

is

> > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis

> > > >

> > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick

to

> > max

> > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in

> > > > practical charts .

> > > >

> > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

As I know, it is rare to find people with scores around 40 in 9th, 10th, 11th.

points in 11th are considered important as relates to gains. Only one King had

45 or 46 points in 11th house as of now (if I remember correctly).

 

In fact, 32 points in your 10th & 11th each shows that your gains are in

proportion to your hardwork. 10th points show Karma.

(So if one has 26 in 10th & 42 in 11th, his gains are far far higher than

hardwork he/she does)

 

17 points in your 12th shows that losses shall be limited.

 

Other members or experts in area, please feedback.

 

regds..

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

>

> I have the following in my horoscope-

>

> Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32

>

> BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal person.

>

> In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show great

> savings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, my

> pockets are empty by evening.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,

> >

> > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet

> looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna

> then i am wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV

> points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..

> >

> > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy

> but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article

> about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs

> observation says. i.e.

> >

> > I am re-quoting below:

> >

> > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart

> then the native lives like a KING!!!***

> >

> > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30

> 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0

> point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points

> in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still i

> am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and

> 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!

> >

> > I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members

> here may shed some light on this...

> >

> > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this

> chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our

> Traditional Astrology Method also..

> >

> > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or

> perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..

> >

> > let's hear from learned members out there.....

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> >

> > , " astro_tellerkerala "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear chandu Ji

> >

> > sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,

> >

> > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any

> > further details he can furnish or guide us

> >

> > so strt ur analysis

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > > , " CP "

> <nanna_id2006@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data

> > > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Chandu2Chill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear List

> > > >

> > > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in

> > > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the

> > > > results

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > April 25, 1957

> > > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not

> > > > adjusted by the poster )

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 75 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 59' 00 "

> > > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra

> > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)

> > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)

> > > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)

> > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)

> > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)

> > > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person

> > > who

> > > > > posted it

> > > > >

> > > > > @@@@@@@@@@

> > > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented

> > > the

> > > > > blind quiz

> > > > >

> > > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir

> in

> > > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving

> for

> > > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current

> position

> > > No

> > > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .

> > > two

> > > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless

> behaviour of

> > > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at

> > > somebody's

> > > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally

> > > NOT

> > > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars

> house..

> > > mars

> > > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and

> > > oppose

> > > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house

> > > ....only..giving

> > > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people

> > > donate

> > > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha

> 80 to

> > > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.

> > > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th

> > > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house

> > > ...gives

> > > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come

> > > abosoultely

> > > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk

> > > abruptly

> > > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited

> from

> > > him

> > > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th

> house..in

> > > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i

> > > found

> > > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his

> > > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move

> from

> > > his

> > > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.

> He

> > > is a

> > > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart

> as

> > > a

> > > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not

> hot

> > > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good

> > > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .

> > > unless u

> > > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to

> his

> > > NOT

> > > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi

> of

> > > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at

> > > least

> > > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till

> death.

> > > I

> > > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are " CLUMSY "

> Which

> > > i

> > > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted

> he

> > > is

> > > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx

> > > for ur

> > > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and

> early.

> > > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv

> > > > >

> > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

> > > > >

> > > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it

> is

> > > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis

> > > > >

> > > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick

> to

> > > max

> > > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in

> > > > > practical charts .

> > > > >

> > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear all I wrote mails frm my percpectiv and what ever little Knowledge i hav It does not mean that traditional theorems r wrong ,many times ( when ever myself and sreenadh Ji discuss original sanskrit quotes we find that one simple akshara changes we find it marvelously fitting in or misleading and a real reserch with original slokas r required as many of this Books were in smriti form )KAS ppl has diffrnt version ( time tested and has a support of a strong parampara ) than popular traditional concepts and i find the fellows who knows the system properly is getting good results .many times ash ji has explained it ,but here the problem is however he explains unless the readers knows the basic lessons of KAS they will b more confused and i doubt it realy serves the purpose ( tho i invite ash ji to write here more ) what i mean to say is even tho parasara said the ashta varga system is for manda Budhi s but in my exprnse i find it is taxing for even highly intellectuals rgrds sunil nair I dont know why in grp is not applying simple basics and try the chart .here we shud desist frm simple time waisting /bandwidth waistin discussions and let us go bit deep as this is wat we can contribute to our next generations .Bhava /bhavesh/karaka /placement /dasa/transits etc can b studies in lite of what ever we know alredy and that is suffient for any chart tho some charts may b intitaly misleading More clarified principles with less load , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear chandu Ji> > sure ,i am not very much comfortable with traditional defenitions of> ashta varga and i dont Know if there is any other secret may b in with> traditonal Guru/families s in india> > I dont Know Much abt CS patels contribution tho even what ever is he> says ( which u quoted ) also in traditonal concepts ( i mean which is> available in print ) even i know he is using Devakerala methods but let> me say i am yet to fully devote my time in it .> > MY question was is any body can see any thing spl in the chart just> using the basics of astrology ( tho Many may say since events r known it> may amnt to fitting in astroloogy theorems to a Known chart )> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "CP" nanna_id2006@> wrote:> >> > Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,> >> > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet> looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna> then i am wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV> points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..> >> > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy> but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article> about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs> observation says. i.e.> >> > I am re-quoting below:> >> > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart> then the native lives like a KING!!!***> >> > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30> 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0> point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points> in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still i> am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and> 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!> >> > I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members> here may shed some light on this...> >> > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this> chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our> Traditional Astrology Method also..> >> > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or> perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..> >> > let's hear from learned members out there.....> >> > Regards> >> > Chandu2Chill> >> >> > , "astro_tellerkerala"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > Dear chandu Ji> >> > sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,> >> > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any> > further details he can furnish or guide us> >> > so strt ur analysis> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > > , "CP"> <nanna_id2006@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > > >> > > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data> > > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Chandu2Chill> > > >> > > >> > > > ,> "astro_tellerkerala"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear List> > > >> > > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> > > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> > > > results> > > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 25, 1957> > > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> > > > adjusted by the poster )> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> > > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the> person> > > who> > > > > posted it> > > > >> > > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever> attented> > > the> > > > > blind quiz> > > > >> > > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir> in> > > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving> for> > > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current> position> > > No> > > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem> .> > > two> > > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless> behaviour of> > > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at> > > somebody's> > > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . > Literally> > > NOT> > > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars> house..> > > mars> > > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and> > > oppose> > > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house> > > ....only..giving> > > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people> > > donate> > > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha> 80 to> > > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house> > > ...gives> > > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come> > > abosoultely> > > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk> > > abruptly> > > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited> from> > > him> > > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th> house..in> > > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as> i> > > found> > > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move> from> > > his> > > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.> He> > > is a> > > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart> as> > > a> > > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not> hot> > > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .> > > unless u> > > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to> his> > > NOT> > > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi> of> > > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at> > > least> > > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till> death.> > > I> > > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY" > Which> > > i> > > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one> predicted he> > > is> > > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more.> thanx> > > for ur> > > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and> early.> > > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > > >> > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > > >> > > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho> it is> > > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > > >> > > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick> to> > > max> > > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > > > > practical charts .> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear axeplex Ji ( pls provide a name to interact easily )thanks for valid points which i forget to mention here as regrds to shri bhaskra Ji s chart rgrds sunil nair , "axeplex" <axeplex wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > As I know, it is rare to find people with scores around 40 in 9th, 10th, 11th. points in 11th are considered important as relates to gains. Only one King had 45 or 46 points in 11th house as of now (if I remember correctly).> > In fact, 32 points in your 10th & 11th each shows that your gains are in proportion to your hardwork. 10th points show Karma.> (So if one has 26 in 10th & 42 in 11th, his gains are far far higher than hardwork he/she does)> > 17 points in your 12th shows that losses shall be limited.> > Other members or experts in area, please feedback.> > regds..> > > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,> > > > I have the following in my horoscope-> > > > Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32> > > > BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal person.> > > > In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show great> > savings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, my> > pockets are empty by evening.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > , "CP" <nanna_id2006@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,> > >> > > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet> > looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna> > then i am wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV> > points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..> > >> > > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy> > but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article> > about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs> > observation says. i.e.> > >> > > I am re-quoting below:> > >> > > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart> > then the native lives like a KING!!!***> > >> > > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30> > 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0> > point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points> > in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still i> > am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and> > 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!> > >> > > I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members> > here may shed some light on this...> > >> > > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this> > chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our> > Traditional Astrology Method also..> > >> > > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or> > perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..> > >> > > let's hear from learned members out there.....> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear chandu Ji> > >> > > sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,> > >> > > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any> > > further details he can furnish or guide us> > >> > > so strt ur analysis> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > > , "CP"> > <nanna_id2006@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data> > > > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ,> > "astro_tellerkerala"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear List> > > > >> > > > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> > > > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> > > > > results> > > > >> > > > > Natal Chart> > > > >> > > > > April 25, 1957> > > > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> > > > > adjusted by the poster )> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> > > > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > > > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > > > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person> > > > who> > > > > > posted it> > > > > >> > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > > > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented> > > > the> > > > > > blind quiz> > > > > >> > > > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir> > in> > > > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving> > for> > > > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current> > position> > > > No> > > > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .> > > > two> > > > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless> > behaviour of> > > > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at> > > > somebody's> > > > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally> > > > NOT> > > > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars> > house..> > > > mars> > > > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and> > > > oppose> > > > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house> > > > ....only..giving> > > > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people> > > > donate> > > > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha> > 80 to> > > > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > > > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > > > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house> > > > ...gives> > > > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come> > > > abosoultely> > > > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk> > > > abruptly> > > > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited> > from> > > > him> > > > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th> > house..in> > > > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i> > > > found> > > > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > > > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move> > from> > > > his> > > > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.> > He> > > > is a> > > > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart> > as> > > > a> > > > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not> > hot> > > > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > > > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .> > > > unless u> > > > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to> > his> > > > NOT> > > > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi> > of> > > > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at> > > > least> > > > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till> > death.> > > > I> > > > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"> > Which> > > > i> > > > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted> > he> > > > is> > > > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx> > > > for ur> > > > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and> > early.> > > > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > > > >> > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > > > >> > > > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it> > is> > > > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > > > >> > > > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick> > to> > > > max> > > > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > > > > > practical charts .> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Learned Members,

 

We may looking at wealth in a very narrow sense. This is very important to explain discrepencies in the what you are getting and what is observed.

For eg : In a chart someone had 3 planets including the 2 luminaries in 12th.

All aspected by Jupiter.

An astrologer in cryptic language told me - this guy will NOT spend in bad things.This pujari must be sucessfull in non monetary or difficult to measure gains.

 

Thanks & Regards

Chiranjiv Mehta+ 91 9324168001--- On Thu, 24/9/09, axeplex <axeplex wrote:

axeplex <axeplex Re: Chart of a Person who is living a life of hand to mouth Date: Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 10:30 AM

Dear Bhaskar ji,As I know, it is rare to find people with scores around 40 in 9th, 10th, 11th. points in 11th are considered important as relates to gains. Only one King had 45 or 46 points in 11th house as of now (if I remember correctly).In fact, 32 points in your 10th & 11th each shows that your gains are in proportion to your hardwork. 10th points show Karma.(So if one has 26 in 10th & 42 in 11th, his gains are far far higher than hardwork he/she does)17 points in your 12th shows that losses shall be limited.Other members or experts in area, please feedback.regds..ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Chandu 2

Chill,> > I have the following in my horoscope-> > Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32> > BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal person.> > In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show great> savings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, my> pockets are empty by evening.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP" <nanna_id2006@ >> wrote:> >> > Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,> >> > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet> looked into the details of the

chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna> then i am wonderstruck! ! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV> points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..> >> > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy> but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article> about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs> observation says. i.e.> >> > I am re-quoting below:> >> > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart> then the native lives like a KING!!!***> >> > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30> 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0> point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points> in 7H these significance can be used while judging

the TRANSIT still i> am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and> 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth! !> >> > I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members> here may shed some light on this...> >> > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this> chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our> Traditional Astrology Method also..> >> > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or> perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..> >> > let's hear from learned members out there.....> >> > Regards> >> > Chandu2Chill> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > Dear chandu Ji> >> > sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,> >> > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any> > further details he can furnish or guide us> >> > so strt ur analysis> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP"> <nanna_id2006@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > >

>> > > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data> > > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Chandu2Chill> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "astro_tellerkerala "> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear List> > > >> > > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> > > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> > > > results>

> > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 25, 1957> > > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> > > > adjusted by the poster )> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> > > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > > >> > > > >> >

> > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person> > > who> > > > > posted it> > > > >> > > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented> > > the> > > > > blind quiz> > > > >> > > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir> in> > > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving> for> > > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current> position> > > No> > >

> > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .> > > two> > > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless> behaviour of> > > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at> > > somebody's> > > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally> > > NOT> > > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars> house..> > > mars> > > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and> > > oppose> > > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house> > > ....only..giving> > > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people> > > donate> > > > > him some money .. not a begger

....kind of living. saturn dasha> 80 to> > > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house> > > ...gives> > > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come> > > abosoultely> > > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk> > > abruptly> > > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited> from> > > him> > > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th> house..in> > > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i> > > found> > > > > kundli for

windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move> from> > > his> > > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.> He> > > is a> > > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart> as> > > a> > > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not> hot> > > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .> > > unless u> > > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to> his> > > NOT> > > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi>

of> > > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at> > > least> > > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till> death.> > > I> > > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"> Which> > > i> > > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted> he> > > is> > > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx> > > for ur> > > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and> early.> > > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > > >> > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@> > > > >> > > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known

events ,tho it> is> > > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > > >> > > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick> to> > > max> > > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > > > > practical charts .> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear chiranjiv mehta Ji Thanks for ur mail Sure that poor brahmin might hav good gains which is Non material .But it is pathetic one part of society also such scholars suffer ,even i read in scriptures that such a society who /where make such scholar suffer ( here poverty ) is doomed to perish /cursed .That is why in olden days Rajas support who ever is scholars /artists/writers/poets etc etc Here the question is offcource material benefit the chart u were discussing has 3 planets in 12th house means what will happens to those bhavas and its fruitifications whom this planets r being Lords jup to aspect in 12th it has to b either in 8th ( worst ) ,4th ( good ) and in 6th itself ( again bad ) unless jup also own that bhavas . what is ur own take on that chart and real life exprnce Bhavartha ratnakar says the karakatwas of planets in 12th is exprnced by nativs pls giv ur own findings other than what other astroloogers r saying If my memory is correct Rashra pitha Mahatam gandhi ji has sun in 12th he is Libra lagna ,he got all care frm state ( even tho they were british ) but his gains as earning ( as sun is lord of 11th ) was Nil -i heard britishers were very careful abt his movemnts as any hurt that may happen to him may b disastrous for raj even .Tho at times he was in Jail .His benefits frm father ( sun represents father and ruler too ) i dont know much abt it but he cud educate in england those days means he has that kind of benefits for sure rgrds sunil nair , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote:>> Dear Learned Members,> > We may looking at wealth in a very narrow sense. This is very important to explain discrepencies in the what you are getting and what is observed.> For eg : In a chart someone had 3 planets including the 2 luminaries in 12th.> All aspected by Jupiter.> An astrologer in cryptic language told me - this guy will NOT spend in bad things.> This pujari must be sucessfull in non monetary or difficult to measure gains.> > Thanks & Regards> > Chiranjiv Mehta> + 91 9324168001> > --- On Thu, 24/9/09, axeplex axeplex wrote:> > > axeplex axeplex Re: Chart of a Person who is living a life of hand to mouth> > Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 10:30 AM> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > As I know, it is rare to find people with scores around 40 in 9th, 10th, 11th. points in 11th are considered important as relates to gains. Only one King had 45 or 46 points in 11th house as of now (if I remember correctly).> > In fact, 32 points in your 10th & 11th each shows that your gains are in proportion to your hardwork. 10th points show Karma.> (So if one has 26 in 10th & 42 in 11th, his gains are far far higher than hardwork he/she does)> > 17 points in your 12th shows that losses shall be limited.> > Other members or experts in area, please feedback.> > regds..> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,> > > > I have the following in my horoscope-> > > > Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32> > > > BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal person.> > > > In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show great> > savings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, my> > pockets are empty by evening.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP" <nanna_id2006@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,> > >> > > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet> > looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna> > then i am wonderstruck! ! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV> > points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..> > >> > > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy> > but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article> > about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs> > observation says. i.e.> > >> > > I am re-quoting below:> > >> > > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart> > then the native lives like a KING!!!***> > >> > > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30> > 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0> > point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points> > in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still i> > am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and> > 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth! !> > >> > > I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members> > here may shed some light on this...> > >> > > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this> > chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our> > Traditional Astrology Method also..> > >> > > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or> > perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..> > >> > > let's hear from learned members out there.....> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear chandu Ji> > >> > > sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,> > >> > > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any> > > further details he can furnish or guide us> > >> > > so strt ur analysis> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP"> > <nanna_id2006@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data> > > > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear List> > > > >> > > > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> > > > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> > > > > results> > > > >> > > > > Natal Chart> > > > >> > > > > April 25, 1957> > > > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> > > > > adjusted by the poster )> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> > > > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > > > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > > > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person> > > > who> > > > > > posted it> > > > > >> > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > > > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented> > > > the> > > > > > blind quiz> > > > > >> > > > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir> > in> > > > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving> > for> > > > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current> > position> > > > No> > > > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .> > > > two> > > > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless> > behaviour of> > > > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at> > > > somebody's> > > > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally> > > > NOT> > > > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars> > house..> > > > mars> > > > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and> > > > oppose> > > > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house> > > > ....only..giving> > > > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people> > > > donate> > > > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha> > 80 to> > > > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > > > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > > > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house> > > > ...gives> > > > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come> > > > abosoultely> > > > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk> > > > abruptly> > > > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited> > from> > > > him> > > > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th> > house..in> > > > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i> > > > found> > > > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > > > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to move> > from> > > > his> > > > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.> > He> > > > is a> > > > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart> > as> > > > a> > > > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not> > hot> > > > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > > > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .> > > > unless u> > > > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to> > his> > > > NOT> > > > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi> > of> > > > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at> > > > least> > > > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till> > death.> > > > I> > > > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"> > Which> > > > i> > > > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted> > he> > > > is> > > > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx> > > > for ur> > > > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and> > early.> > > > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > > > >> > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@> > > > > >> > > > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it> > is> > > > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > > > >> > > > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick> > to> > > > max> > > > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > > > > > practical charts .> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. 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Dear friends,

 

To get very high SAV points in 11H, one will need few planets

in 1H...

 

The reason is obvious .... most of the planets will give good points

in 11th house from it.

 

However, if I remember correctly, Sri Rohini Ranjan-ji had commented

in his e-book, Crystal Primer (CPjyotish ...available in internet) had

commented that the Sanskrit verse can also be interpreted in

different manner. 'Sorry if my comment creates another controversy.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar [bhaskar_jyotish] Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:08 AM Subject: Re: Chart of a Person who is living a life of hand to mouth

Dear Chandu 2 Chill,I have the following in my horoscope-Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal person.In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show greatsavings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, mypockets are empty by evening.regards/Bhaskar. , "CP" <nanna_id2006wrote:>> Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,>> Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yetlooked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagnathen i am wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAVpoints and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..>> I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopybut needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an articleabout Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPsobservation says. i.e.>> I am re-quoting below:>> **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chartthen the native lives like a KING!!!***>> Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-3010H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Pointsin 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still iam unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!>> I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned membershere may shed some light on this...>> I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since thischart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with ourTraditional Astrology Method also..>> And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only orperhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..>> let's hear from learned members out there.....>> Regards>> Chandu2Chill>>> , "astro_tellerkerala"astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:>> Dear chandu Ji>> sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,>> i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any> further details he can furnish or guide us>> so strt ur analysis>> rgrds sunil nair>> > , "CP"<nanna_id2006@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data> > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > > ,"astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear List> > >> > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> > > results> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > April 25, 1957> > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> > > adjusted by the poster )> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > >> > > >> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > >> > > >> > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person> > who> > > > posted it> > > >> > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented> > the> > > > blind quiz> > > >> > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandirin> > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starvingfor> > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. currentposition> > No> > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .> > two> > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorlessbehaviour of> > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday at> > somebody's> > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally> > NOT> > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in marshouse..> > mars> > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and> > oppose> > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house> > ....only..giving> > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people> > donate> > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha80 to> > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house> > ...gives> > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come> > abosoultely> > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk> > abruptly> > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefitedfrom> > him> > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12thhouse..in> > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i> > found> > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to movefrom> > his> > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.He> > is a> > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chartas> > a> > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is nothot> > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .> > unless u> > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due tohis> > NOT> > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashiof> > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at> > least> > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .tilldeath.> > I> > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"Which> > i> > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predictedhe> > is> > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx> > for ur> > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast andearly.> > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > >> > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > >> > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho itis> > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > >> > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stickto> > max> > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > > > practical charts .> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > >> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Dear Members,

 

I can be addresses as Dev.

 

regds

Dev

 

, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> Dear axeplex Ji ( pls provide a name to interact easily )

>

> thanks for valid points which i forget to mention here as regrds to shri

> bhaskra Ji s chart

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

>

> , " axeplex " <axeplex@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > As I know, it is rare to find people with scores around 40 in 9th,

> 10th, 11th. points in 11th are considered important as relates to gains.

> Only one King had 45 or 46 points in 11th house as of now (if I remember

> correctly).

> >

> > In fact, 32 points in your 10th & 11th each shows that your gains are

> in proportion to your hardwork. 10th points show Karma.

> > (So if one has 26 in 10th & 42 in 11th, his gains are far far higher

> than hardwork he/she does)

> >

> > 17 points in your 12th shows that losses shall be limited.

> >

> > Other members or experts in area, please feedback.

> >

> > regds..

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,

> > >

> > > I have the following in my horoscope-

> > >

> > > Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32

> > >

> > > BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal person.

> > >

> > > In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show great

> > > savings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, my

> > > pockets are empty by evening.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " CP "

> <nanna_id2006@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not

> yet

> > > looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries

> Lagna

> > > then i am wonderstruck!! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV

> > > points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..

> > > >

> > > > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the

> hardcopy

> > > but needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article

> > > about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri

> CSPs

> > > observation says. i.e.

> > > >

> > > > I am re-quoting below:

> > > >

> > > > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a

> chart

> > > then the native lives like a KING!!!***

> > > >

> > > > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30

> > > 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0

> > > point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0

> Points

> > > in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still

> i

> > > am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10

> and

> > > 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth!!

> > > >

> > > > I would request our Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned

> members

> > > here may shed some light on this...

> > > >

> > > > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since

> this

> > > chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our

> > > Traditional Astrology Method also..

> > > >

> > > > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga

> only or

> > > perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..

> > > >

> > > > let's hear from learned members out there.....

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Chandu2Chill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear chandu Ji

> > > >

> > > > sure ,I am also getting aries Lagna ,

> > > >

> > > > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if

> any

> > > > further details he can furnish or guide us

> > > >

> > > > so strt ur analysis

> > > >

> > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > > , " CP "

> > > <nanna_id2006@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below

> data

> > > > > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandu2Chill

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz

> in

> > > > > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt

> the

> > > > > > results

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > April 25, 1957

> > > > > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not

> > > > > > adjusted by the poster )

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 75 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 59' 00 "

> > > > > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra

> > > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)

> > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > > > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)

> > > > > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)

> > > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)

> > > > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)

> > > > > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the

> person

> > > > > who

> > > > > > > posted it

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@

> > > > > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever

> attented

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > blind quiz

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one

> mandir

> > > in

> > > > > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just

> starving

> > > for

> > > > > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current

> > > position

> > > > > No

> > > > > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is

> problem .

> > > > > two

> > > > > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless

> > > behaviour of

> > > > > > > many family members. HE is eating on charity base everyday

> at

> > > > > somebody's

> > > > > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth .

> Literally

> > > > > NOT

> > > > > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars

> > > house..

> > > > > mars

> > > > > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from

> family..and

> > > > > oppose

> > > > > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house

> > > > > ....only..giving

> > > > > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of

> people

> > > > > donate

> > > > > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn

> dasha

> > > 80 to

> > > > > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave

> money.

> > > > > > > now.merury dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th

> > > > > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th

> house

> > > > > ...gives

> > > > > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come

> > > > > abosoultely

> > > > > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk

> > > > > abruptly

> > > > > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are

> benefited

> > > from

> > > > > him

> > > > > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th

> > > house..in

> > > > > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this

> chart....as i

> > > > > found

> > > > > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in

> his

> > > > > > > chart...vedic style helped me a lot... i had asked him to

> move

> > > from

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him

> now.

> > > He

> > > > > is a

> > > > > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this

> chart

> > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is

> not

> > > hot

> > > > > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is

> good

> > > > > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give

> money .

> > > > > unless u

> > > > > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due

> to

> > > his

> > > > > NOT

> > > > > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star....

> .rashi

> > > of

> > > > > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death

> at

> > > > > least

> > > > > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till

> > > death.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are " CLUMSY "

> > > Which

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one

> predicted

> > > he

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more.

> thanx

> > > > > for ur

> > > > > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and

> > > early.

> > > > > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events

> ,tho it

> > > is

> > > > > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem

> analysis

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls

> stick

> > > to

> > > > > max

> > > > > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its

> application in

> > > > > > > practical charts .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Sunil Nairji,

 

Your 1st para is absolutely right. society which cannot provide for its learned men will perish. Also same for the poorer and helpless like children, tribals etc.

Yes the Person is losing the karakas represented by the 3 planets in 12th.

Jup from 8th is helping to retain some semblence of decency and it is not so dramatic as would have been for malefics aspect.

In my humble opinion/ experience if seen with clearity there are sometimes opposing forces at work. For example a friend used to ask me for his job prospects as he is in high paying position and as is fashion nowadays wants to grow by changing jobs often.

I had told him that he will get new job after some confusion , not very satisfying content wise and pay will not get affected - may rise. It seemed ironic as most things opposed each other. But it is due to functioning of the transits, MD and the natal placement.

 

In this case natal jupiter always saves. So what looks bad in material world is actually

pretty ok.

Chiranjiv Mehta+ 91 9324168001--- On Thu, 24/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Re: Chart of a Person who is living a life of hand to mouth Date: Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 12:58 PM

Dear chiranjiv mehta Ji Thanks for ur mail Sure that poor brahmin might hav good gains which is Non material .But it is pathetic one part of society also such scholars suffer ,even i read in scriptures that such a society who /where make such scholar suffer ( here poverty ) is doomed to perish /cursed .That is why in olden days Rajas support who ever is scholars /artists/writers/ poets etc etc Here the question is offcource material benefit the chart u were discussing has 3 planets in 12th house means what will happens to those bhavas and its fruitifications whom this planets r being Lords jup to aspect in 12th it has to b either in 8th ( worst ) ,4th ( good ) and in 6th itself ( again bad ) unless jup also own that bhavas . what is ur own take on that chart and real life exprnce Bhavartha ratnakar says the karakatwas of planets in 12th

is exprnced by nativs pls giv ur own findings other than what other astroloogers r saying If my memory is correct Rashra pitha Mahatam gandhi ji has sun in 12th he is Libra lagna ,he got all care frm state ( even tho they were british ) but his gains as earning ( as sun is lord of 11th ) was Nil -i heard britishers were very careful abt his movemnts as any hurt that may happen to him may b disastrous for raj even .Tho at times he was in Jail .His benefits frm father ( sun represents father and ruler too ) i dont know much abt it but he cud educate in england those days means he has that kind of benefits for sure rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Learned Members,> > We may looking at wealth in a very narrow sense. This is very important to explain discrepencies in

the what you are getting and what is observed.> For eg : In a chart someone had 3 planets including the 2 luminaries in 12th.> All aspected by Jupiter.> An astrologer in cryptic language told me - this guy will NOT spend in bad things.> This pujari must be sucessfull in non monetary or difficult to measure gains.> > Thanks & Regards> > Chiranjiv Mehta> + 91 9324168001> > --- On Thu, 24/9/09, axeplex axeplex wrote:> > > axeplex axeplex [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Chart of a Person who is living a life of hand to mouth> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 10:30 AM> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > As I know, it is rare to find people with scores around 40 in 9th, 10th, 11th. points in

11th are considered important as relates to gains. Only one King had 45 or 46 points in 11th house as of now (if I remember correctly).> > In fact, 32 points in your 10th & 11th each shows that your gains are in proportion to your hardwork. 10th points show Karma.> (So if one has 26 in 10th & 42 in 11th, his gains are far far higher than hardwork he/she does)> > 17 points in your 12th shows that losses shall be limited.> > Other members or experts in area, please feedback.> > regds..> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Chandu 2 Chill,> > > > I have the following in my horoscope-> > > > Asc- 32 points , 9th -29 , 10th -32, 11th - 32> > > > BUT i also do not live like a KING, but just like a normal

person.> > > > In fact I have just 17 points for 12th house so it should show great> > savings, but if I have Rs.10000- in my pockets in the morning, my> > pockets are empty by evening.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP" <nanna_id2006@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Ji and All,> > >> > > Thanks for the reply. since the results are mentioned i have not yet> > looked into the details of the chart..BUT if it is indeed Aries Lagna> > then i am wonderstruck! ! as quick check i was looking at SAV and BAV> > points and trying to learn about Ashtkavarga principles..> > >> > > I read in one of the Express Star Teller issue (i have the hardcopy> > but

needs to search) i think a year back or so, there was an article> > about Shri C. S. Patel ji where the author while quoting about Shri CSPs> > observation says. i.e.> > >> > > I am re-quoting below:> > >> > > **If the Ascendant, 9H 10H and 11H has 28 or more Bindus in a chart> > then the native lives like a KING!!!***> > >> > > Now you see (considering Aries Lagna) in given chart 1H-30, 9H-30> > 10H-32, 11H-38 bindus respectively in SAV!!! though in BAV Asc has 0> > point contribution in 7H LL Mars has 0 points in 7H Mercury has 0 Points> > in 7H these significance can be used while judging the TRANSIT still i> > am unable to understand despite many/more benefics bindus in 1,9,10 and> > 11H and the native is living hand-to-mouth! !> > >> > > I would request our

Ashtakavarga scholars and even KAS learned members> > here may shed some light on this...> > >> > > I am specifically bringing this Ashtakavarga method here since this> > chart has been already discussed and still can be discussed with our> > Traditional Astrology Method also..> > >> > > And was also remembering Sage Parashara mentioning in Kaliyuga only or> > perhaps mostly *Ashtakavarga* principles works!!..> > >> > > let's hear from learned members out there.....> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala "> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear chandu Ji> > >> > > sure ,I am also getting aries

Lagna ,> > >> > > i also contcted the poster of this chart ( in other forums ) if any> > > further details he can furnish or guide us> > >> > > so strt ur analysis> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP"> > <nanna_id2006@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for the chart.. I am getting Aries Lagna. with below data> > > > considering the time is 6:00 AM pls confirm is it correct?> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > >> > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- In

ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear List> > > > >> > > > > Here is the chart of a person whose chart posted as Blind quiz in> > > > > another forum and one of Our memebr came almost correctly abt the> > > > > results> > > > >> > > > > Natal Chart> > > > >> > > > > April 25, 1957> > > > > Time: 6:00:00 ( i hope the time givn is correct and not> > > > > adjusted by the poster )> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 75 E 50' 00", 18 N 59' 00"> > > > > BIR ,Maharashtra, India> > > > >> > > > >

>> > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Hemalamba - Chaitra> > > > > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (71.26% left)> > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (39.52% left)> > > > > > Yoga: Brahma (Ma) (54.90% left)> > > > > > Karana: Bava (Su) (42.53% left)> > > > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Sc)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sunrise: 6:07:06 (April 24)> > > > > > Sunset: 18:42:52 (April 24)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > here is the results of chart declared in the words of the person> > > > who> > > > > > posted

it> > > > > >> > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@> > > > > > I am ending the anxiousness of all astrologers who ever attented> > > > the> > > > > > blind quiz> > > > > >> > > > > > This is a chart of astrologer ....by birth Poojari of one mandir> > in> > > > > > BEED. Nothing good in life till the moment. He is just starving> > for> > > > > > living. NO much income from astrologer as business. current> > position> > > > No> > > > > > home No marraige (still unmarried) and whole family is problem .> > > > two> > > > > > unmarried sisters unmarried till 60s...and charctorless> > behaviour of> > > > > > many family members. HE is eating on

charity base everyday at> > > > somebody's> > > > > > home. Just people blessing as he is bramhin by birth . Literally> > > > NOT> > > > > > fully mad conditions. ( in cups..mercury and ketu in mars> > house..> > > > mars> > > > > > saturn opposite to each other showing dearture from family..and> > > > oppose> > > > > > too. his jupitor in 5th house aspecting first house> > > > ....only..giving> > > > > > people's love...he is not called too mad. only some of people> > > > donate> > > > > > him some money .. not a begger ...kind of living. saturn dasha> > 80 to> > > > > > 99...saturn in 8th house in star of mercury did not gave money.> > > > > > now.merury

dasha...mercury in star of venus ..venus in 12th> > > > > > house.....again. only good thing is like ....jup in 5th house> > > > ...gives> > > > > > some vachsidhi... ....his some of words and prediction come> > > > abosoultely> > > > > > true without looking at any chart and any face. when he talk> > > > abruptly> > > > > > he is saying so sudden comes true and people who are benefited> > from> > > > him> > > > > > take in car and drop anywhere he want to go.. venus 12th> > house..in> > > > > > cups... I did not applied KP sub level to see this chart....as i> > > > found> > > > > > kundli for windows bhavchalit more perfect significator in his> > > > > > chart...vedic style helped

me a lot... i had asked him to move> > from> > > > his> > > > > > own house in mandir and some body from road is helping him now.> > He> > > > is a> > > > > > good astrologer too...but fate not with him....I call this chart> > as> > > > a> > > > > > shapeet kundli ....shap of whom ? is not answered.. he is not> > hot> > > > > > headed ....not short tempered but he is eccentric... He is good> > > > > > paniter....good drawings..ability ....which do not give money .> > > > unless u> > > > > > market it ..He is not good marketing person of himself..due to> > his> > > > NOT> > > > > > FULLY MAD ness. mercury and ketu in bharani ....star.... .rashi> > of> >

> > > > mars...not showing good sign. Rest all i hope ....good death at> > > > least> > > > > > for him...without medicine and without hopsitalisation .till> > death.> > > > I> > > > > > hope am hoping to give such more charts..which are "CLUMSY"> > Which> > > > i> > > > > > like to give to all astrologers. .for study but no one predicted> > he> > > > is> > > > > > starving for food and money such charts helpto learn more. thanx> > > > for ur> > > > > > support and conveying one's view in forum that too fast and> > early.> > > > > > posting one more chart in 2-3 days. rajiv> > > > > >> > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@> > > > >

>> > > > > > Any one can try this chart with the already Known events ,tho it> > is> > > > > > already known and some one may say it is post mortem analysis> > > > > >> > > > > > still such charts r required to test ancient dictums ( pls stick> > to> > > > max> > > > > > basics than some how fit in the results ) and its application in> > > > > > practical charts .> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn

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