Charts for women:

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Q: Is there any difference in the male and female chart in Astrology? If so, how to read a female chart?….Dharani, Doha. Yes. There is deference in readings. This difference is discussed in length in ‘Varaha’s Hora Satra’ by Ilingan and detailed with sonnets by a great scholar Vidvan Adikalasiriar. (Book published now by Saraswathi Mahal Library Tanjore, initiated by Sarabhoji Maharaja who ruled Tanjore). I will be pleased to give some out of many of relevant details below:Women in constitution, structure, thought, reasoning, and in health differ from man

(‘wooed by man is a woman).

They have added sickness/discomfort to suffer in life for child birth, and related feminine health based conditions. They also have mind based problems in ‘compatibility’ with man, as also the future of existence in dependence /independence in all walks of life. The third is their involvement with concern to build the ‘nest’ of family.Some related guide lines are taken into consideration from Manteeswaras’s Phala Deepika, ‘Jathakalankara’, ‘Hora Sara’, ‘Mangaleeswaryam’, ‘Saaraavalli’, and ‘Jathaka Chinthamaniâ€, in compiling this article.

( I consider that this article is read by those who have basic knowledge in Astrology as also familiar with the terms used by Astrologers)At the outset, it is to be understood by all, that preparation and methods of calculations are same for making Birth Charts for, both Man and Woman. As such, all interpretations of Planetary positions in Birth Charts as well as in daily movements, are same. However, there are special interpretations in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology for women too.

Health and growth of a woman is determined by the position of the Moon and The lagna of the birth Chart. - Personality, beauty and habitsPointers to guide to decide on the above in a Birth Chart of a woman: (a) If Chandra lagna and Janma lagna are in the EVEN Sign house (Rishaba, Kataka, Kanni, Vruchika, Makara or Meena), that female will be with pleasant manners and will possess ornaments.(b) If Jupiter, Waxing Moon, Mercury not associated/afflicted by depleted Planets or afflicted stars, or not in aspect of malefic Planets, in a birth chart, she will be beautiful with vivacious look, pleasant manners, cool thinker, generous in nature, considerate and wears many attractive and precious jewels.( c) If Chandra and Janma lagna are in the ODD sign house (Mesha, Mithuna, Simha,

Thula, Dhanush, or Kumba) she would look more of a masculine in appearance, and behave with authority and firmness like a man.(d) If any or more malefic Planets aspect the Lagna (Odd sign) and the position of Moon (Odd sign), she will do all that is not expected of a woman in general, and will have vindictive and bad behaviors.(e) If Lagna and Chandra are severally and individually be in aspect of a ‘bhandu, mithra’ Planet (Moon is friendly to Sun and Mercury; and neutral to other planets except Rahu and Ketu) and Moon is in the Star Zone of the listed Planets, she will have exemplary character, devotion to spouse and children, reverence to all elders and affection and friendly to help needy.(f) If Moon is positioned in an EVEN house, and that is in Lagna in the birth chart, and have aspect from good Planets (Jupiter, Venus, and not

afflicted Mercury) she will get a husband with excellent, dedicated, adorable, kind, well educated, hard working, honest, eloquent in many ways, contributive and with handsome personality. She will also beget intelligent, shrewd, smart, and bright children to her success in life.(g) If Moon is positioned in an ODD house, and in Lagna in the birth chart, and in aspect of any malefic Planet or Planets (Saturn, Mars, afflicted Mercury, badly positioned Sun - in Thula, Rahu or Ketu, she will behave like a man, think evil, indiscipline and not obeying husband or elders, while failing in planning with haste and self belief (without basic foundation for such thought), wasting time in criticizing others, inviting quarrels for flimsy events, irrational, leading to wants all time in life. Ref (Paldeepika Ch11-2; and this is supported in sl.860 in ’Jathakalankara’ too)Now it is necessary to study the chart prepared as “Trimshamsha

1. (Sl 327) Find where Mars is in Birth chart. Then refer the ‘Thrishamsha’ chart. Take the house of Mars and in chart ‘Trimshamsha’ to find that The Moon or Lagna is in the Mars house of Mesha or Scorpio in ‘Thrishamsha’ then that woman will live with blemish in society. If Saturn is in that house (instead Moon or Lagna) she will live with more men than one person. She could be a servant, even born in high rated family, and indulge in petty bad quality acts and get punishment. If Jupiter in that house (instead of three Planets mentioned above) She will be of high virtue and dedicated to husband and family with extreme piety. She will be adorned by her husband. She will beget famous children. She will be extravagance in expenses. If Mercury is in that house (except all the above) she will be very cunning lady with tricky attitudes, while deceitful (Kanyeva dushta). She may not be hygienically clean. She may not

have children. If Mars occupy that house exclusively, she will be easily forgotten by the near and dear and all for her unpleasant life. She may beget a still born child. 2. If Venus occupy that house exclusively, she will get charming girl as her daughter and will posses ‘take it easy’ type of attitude.†- that is 1/30th of the Birth chart, where each Degree will be a house of a birth chart house. This is necessary to study the remaining verses on “Stree†Jathaka interpretations. (“ORACHARA†- Ch 25 -6,7,8 & 9) also (Jathaka Alankara Sl.873)2. The 7th house from Lagna, as well as, the position of the Moon, will point to husband’s prosperity - wealth, and living status and conditions.3. The ‘end’ of husband will be indicated by referring to the 8th house of lagna in the birth chart of a woman. -’Mangalya Bhala’4. With the study of the 5th house, the related benefits from children - ‘Puthra Sowkyam’5.

The 9th house of the birth chart of a woman will indicate the issue of a male child.This is a very lengthy subject, and it could not be contained in one installment. However, I have attempted to establish that reading of a female horoscope, consists of analysis which are exclusive to that sex and astrologers will have to study in depth before arriving for conclusions.

A.V.Pathi,

Astrologer, specialising in family problems,

Education, Health, Finance, and Litigation.

(consultations are chargeable - Pl. ask rates)

'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham,

Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .

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Yes they are given in all classics and you perhaps overlooked Bhava Kutuhalam

but tell me honestly, do you apply these principles as given in the books on

females. My experience has been that it is the same. I do not differentiate

between a man and a woman while reading their horoscopes because women these

days as are good as men and in some cases, even better than men.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sorry Mr. Pathi. You misunderstood the whole thing. I was only stressing at the

point that " have we tried the principles for females given on classics in the

chart of females " It is not questioning I think and I believe in.

 

Just for an example. If a woman is born with trimshamsha of Mars or Saturn

rising then she has not been considered as a chaste and pious woman by the

books. In practical terms, they make engineers, police woman, army woman. Now

can we say they are not pious? And why does the books only refer to chastity of

a woman?

 

Because of the times these books were written perhaps is the only answer. The

purpose of writing that message was not to question or criticise you but to

elicit views on their practical use.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

 

 

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

Re: Charts for women:

 

Thursday, September 24, 2009, 4:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Manoj Kumar ji,

 

You are perfectly at liberty to have your methods.  I certainly have mine.

I had given details 'available' for those interested to know them.  I acclaim

that you are certainly more learned than me in the knowledge of Hindu astrology,

and you do not fail repeatedly to establish your prowess in least opportunity. 

I believe one can give in general forum on points that can contribute to gain

depth of knowledge.  I realise there are more in this group to question one than

to contribute.

 

My regards

A.V.Pathi,  

Astrologer, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .  

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

 

Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:44:49 AM

Re: Charts for women:

 

 

Yes they are given in all classics and you perhaps overlooked Bhava Kutuhalam

but tell me honestly, do you apply these principles as given in the books on

females. My experience has been that it is the same. I do not differentiate

between a man and a woman while reading their horoscopes because women these

days as are good as men and in some cases, even better than men.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is really interesting.

 

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

 

 

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

Re: Charts for women:

 

Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:13 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Manoj Kumar,

 

I have not misunderstood your contention, while it is straight forward in

projecting yourself in 'one plus' knowledge.  In another mail of yours to 

another learned Astrologer - a great Sanskrit scholar - on the equal expressions

in Sanskrit and English, you are attempting to be so.  There again it is a tinge

of 'how big I am' in the knowledge of 'both' languages.  I bring this here to

'quote' your supreme knowledge in subjects, than others - as a torch bearer for

Astrology.

 

Nobody asked your comments.  It is an article.  Not a subject for opinion

mongers.  I can write volumes on my opinions on your comments in OPEN forum,

accepted or not accepted.  You are no body to question me " ...do you apply these

principles as given in the books on females. "   The method is my prerogative.

 

" ....as a chaste and pious woman by the books. In practical terms, they make

engineers, police woman, army woman. Now can we say they are not pious? ... "  

What is 'piety' has to qualify or disqualify a woman to become as a police, army

or Engineer woman? So, those women who are Engineer, in police and army are not

'chaste and pious' under your listings. Great!! Do not prefix your reply 'that I

had mistaken'.

 

I am committed to Astrology, perhaps the years of your age.

 

Thank you to end this mail.

A.V.Pathi,  

Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .  

 

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Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

 

Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:15:55 PM

Re: Charts for women:

 

 

Sorry Mr. Pathi. You misunderstood the whole thing. I was only stressing at the

point that " have we tried the principles for females given on classics in the

chart of females " It is not questioning I think and I believe in.

 

Just for an example. If a woman is born with trimshamsha of Mars or Saturn

rising then she has not been considered as a chaste and pious woman by the

books. In practical terms, they make engineers, police woman, army woman. Now

can we say they are not pious? And why does the books only refer to chastity of

a woman?

 

Because of the times these books were written perhaps is the only answer. The

purpose of writing that message was not to question or criticise you but to

elicit views on their practical use.

 

regards,

 

Mouji

 

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote:

 

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

Re: Charts for women:

 

Thursday, September 24, 2009, 4:29 PM

 

 

 

Dear Manoj Kumar ji,

 

You are perfectly at liberty to have your methods.  I certainly have mine.

I had given details 'available' for those interested to know them.  I acclaim

that you are certainly more learned than me in the knowledge of Hindu astrology,

and you do not fail repeatedly to establish your prowess in least opportunity. 

I believe one can give in general forum on points that can contribute to gain

depth of knowledge.  I realise there are more in this group to question one than

to contribute.

 

My regards

A.V.Pathi,  

Astrologer, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .  

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

 

Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:44:49 AM

Re: Charts for women:

 

 

Yes they are given in all classics and you perhaps overlooked Bhava Kutuhalam

but tell me honestly, do you apply these principles as given in the books on

females. My experience has been that it is the same. I do not differentiate

between a man and a woman while reading their horoscopes because women these

days as are good as men and in some cases, even better than men.

 

regards,

 

Mouji