Saturn and venus in 6/8 each other and its dasa

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Dear List Here is a discussion happening in another grp I will paste the relevent part of discussion XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxxxxI have not quoted from authentic script.

This from the book of K.N.Rao

Analysing horoscopes through modern techniques

Pg:340 which says

"According to Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are both strong and

becomes yogakaraka results of their dasha and antar are very

unfavourable.

Under such conditions the native will be as good as a beggar even though he may be rich like kuber.

But if one is strong and another is weak the native will enjoy good

results according to character and strength of stronger planet.

If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 or one of them is

situated in 6th or 8th place place or another, or they own any dusthan

or are posited there or associated with lord of dusthan the results of

their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good.

Saturn and Venus dasas as given by Kalidasa in Uttarkalamitra Venus and

Saturn in their mutual sub periods give good results if they are in 6,

8, and 12 from each other or in conjunction in such houses, with one or

both debilitated or a malefic for the horoscope.

This rather amusing and seemingly paradoxical operation of Venus and

Saturn is an exception to the general rule. But venus and Saturn are

close friends as is obvious that each one is yogakaraka in Capri and

Aqua lagna and Saturn is yogakaraka in signs wuth lagna of Venus Taurus

and Libra"

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Any Body has any exprnce with such charts ?? In real life .If so can we discuss rgrds sunil nair

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Same thing has been discussed by him in his book "Enigmas in Astrology."

 

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Mouji--- On Thu, 9/24/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Saturn and venus in 6/8 each other and its dasa Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 6:45 PM

Dear List Here is a discussion happening in another grp I will paste the relevent part of discussion XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXxxxxxI have not quoted from authentic script.This from the book of K.N.RaoAnalysing horoscopes through modern techniquesPg:340 which says"According to Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are both strong and becomes yogakaraka results of their dasha and antar are very unfavourable.Under such conditions the native will be as good as a beggar even though he may be rich like kuber.But if one is strong and another is weak the native will enjoy good results according to character and strength of stronger planet.If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 or one of them is situated in 6th or 8th place place or another,

or they own any dusthan or are posited there or associated with lord of dusthan the results of their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good.Saturn and Venus dasas as given by Kalidasa in Uttarkalamitra Venus and Saturn in their mutual sub periods give good results if they are in 6, 8, and 12 from each other or in conjunction in such houses, with one or both debilitated or a malefic for the horoscope.This rather amusing and seemingly paradoxical operation of Venus and Saturn is an exception to the general rule. But venus and Saturn are close friends as is obvious that each one is yogakaraka in Capri and Aqua lagna and Saturn is yogakaraka in signs wuth lagna of Venus Taurus and Libra"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX Any Body has any exprnce with such charts ?? In real life .If so can we discuss rgrds sunil nair

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Pranams,

 

Mr.SunilNairji,

 

" .... Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are .... yogakaraka ....

If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 ....... the results of their

dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good...... "

 

I agree the above,for the reason:-

 

I know a naive who was born on 13th September 1971 @ 8.40AM{PER HOSPITAL

RECORDS]in 79E53 / 11 N 56 (Lahiri & 360 day Savana years] whose Sukra bukti in

Sani Dasa from 10.7.2003 to 23.8.2006 was extremely good.It should be noted here

that the native was born in Thulaa lagnam (Sani and Sukra are functional benefic

but both of them are weak),Mithuna rasi-Aarudhra nakshtra.

 

Regards/Dhananjayan

 

--- On Thu, 24/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

> astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala

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Dear List

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> I have not quoted from authentic script.

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> This from the book of K.N.Rao

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> Analysing horoscopes through modern techniques

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> Pg:340 which says

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> " According to Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are

> both strong and

> becomes yogakaraka results of their dasha and antar are

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> Under such conditions the native will be as good as a

> beggar even though he may be rich like kuber.

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> planet.

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> Venus Taurus

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Dear Dhananjayan ji Thanks for the post and posting a data As the header of this post shows my main interest in discussion was if sat and venus occuppy each other in 6/8 ( as i hav some hidden interests in such a combination as it may has a say in married Life ) sure ,u posted a chart where sani in 8th house and venus in 12th house and being tula lagna and other factors are there for such a dasa but my question is general and according to header for rest of the discussion i am pasting a reply frm my frnd who is welversed in astrology pls read this rgrds sunil nair Dear xxxxxx,

I must thank you for pointing out the source of this assumption. I am giving

below the slokas quoted in Uttarakalamritha.

bhR^igvarkii yadi tungabhe svabhavane varggottamaadau sthitau

tulyauyogakarau tathaiva balinau tau chenmithopaakagau

bhuupaalo dhanadopamo.apisatataM bhikshaashanoniShkalaH

tatraikastu balii parastu vibalashchedviiryavaan yogadaH

The conditions that are mentioned here

A) Both the Saturn & Venus should be equally strong

B) They should be in Exaltation or own sign or Vargottamamsa

C) Both should be yoga karakas

If you look closely at the above, you will find that the third condition exists

for signs owned by Saturn & Venus Ie: Makara, Kumbha , Vrishabha & Thula. Both

do not become yoga karaka TOGETHER for no other signs.

so the question now is whether this rule is applicable for the above sign only.

Since the "tathaiva" is used, it is sure that for confering the effect as

mentioned, all the conditions must satisfy. That is it is not enough if any of

the above conditions are met.

Finally the whole effect depends upon on one factor

Strength of Saturn = Strength of Venus.

Strength of planets is according to shadbala.

from the above we can see that the chances of occurence of satisfying all the

conditions are very rare.

Also we have to keep in mind that this is not applicable to other 8 signs.

D) one is strong and the other is weak. The result is given as "yogadaH".

Strictly speaking this word simply implies that any one will confer effects

attibuted to them, which need not be always good also.

The logic here might be that when two planets have equal strengths both gets

cancelled. This view is mentioned where it is said if two exalted aspect each

other, the person lives in poverty. In the Dasa scheme also this rule could be

applied to some extant and with caution.

tau dvaavapyabalau vyayaaShTaripugau talbhaavapau vaapital

tatbhaaveshayutau tadaa shubhakarau saukhyapradau bhogadau

ekasstbhavanaadhipastadaparashchedduShTabhaaveshvar-

staavapyatra suyogadaavatibalau tau chenmahaasaukhyadau..

In this verse the conditions are

If the above two planets are

A) occupy 12 - 8 - 6 signs without strength

B) or they are the lords of 12 - 8 - 6 signs

C) or they are associated with the lords of 12 - 8- 6 th signs

The native shall be confortable & happy even if one of them is disthanadhipathy.

It should be noted that it is not mentioned whether the 12-8-6 is from lagna

/chandra or from the dasa lord.

D) Even if one of them is the lord of an Ishta bhava & the other dushta bhava

(12-8-6) they shall confer great confort during their dasa & sub periods.

 

The conditions (B) & (D) indicates that this could be applied to any of the 12

signs.

The only condition that may be common here the strength of both which should be

very LESS.

Yes this seems to be unnatural effects of two planets that are natual friends

and yoga karakas.

A word of caution: Uttarakalamritha is NOT considered a authentic work

particularly in kerala. This is basically an interpolation work, thories taken

from other works like Parasara Hora, Jaimini etc. But the biggest issue some of

the exception stated both the sages has not been incorporated in this work.

Hence it is adviced to be vary carefull when appying these in real situations.

It is neither a pure work on Astrology alone, because there many chapters

pertaining to rituals not related with Astrology.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Mr.SunilNairji,> > ".... Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are .... yogakaraka .... > If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 ....... the results of their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good......"> > I agree the above,for the reason:-> > I know a naive who was born on 13th September 1971 @ 8.40AM{PER HOSPITAL RECORDS]in 79E53 / 11 N 56 (Lahiri & 360 day Savana years] whose Sukra bukti in Sani Dasa from 10.7.2003 to 23.8.2006 was extremely good.It should be noted here that the native was born in Thulaa lagnam (Sani and Sukra are functional benefic but both of them are weak),Mithuna rasi-Aarudhra nakshtra.> > Regards/Dhananjayan> > --- On Thu, 24/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala > Saturn and venus in 6/8 each other and its dasa> > > > Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 6:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List > > > > Here is a discussion happening in another grp> > > > > > I will paste the relevent part of discussion > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXxxxxx> > > > > > I have not quoted from authentic script.> > > > This from the book of K.N.Rao> > > > Analysing horoscopes through modern techniques> > > > Pg:340 which says> > > > > > "According to Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are> > both strong and> > becomes yogakaraka results of their dasha and antar are> > very> > unfavourable.> > > > Under such conditions the native will be as good as a> > beggar even though he may be rich like kuber.> > > > But if one is strong and another is weak the native will> > enjoy good> > results according to character and strength of stronger> > planet.> > > > If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 or one> > of them is> > situated in 6th or 8th place place or another, or they own> > any dusthan> > or are posited there or associated with lord of dusthan the> > results of> > their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good.> > > > Saturn and Venus dasas as given by Kalidasa in> > Uttarkalamitra Venus and> > Saturn in their mutual sub periods give good results if> > they are in 6,> > 8, and 12 from each other or in conjunction in such houses,> > with one or> > both debilitated or a malefic for the horoscope.> > > > This rather amusing and seemingly paradoxical operation of> > Venus and> > Saturn is an exception to the general rule. But venus and> > Saturn are> > close friends as is obvious that each one is yogakaraka in> > Capri and> > Aqua lagna and Saturn is yogakaraka in signs wuth lagna of> > Venus Taurus> > and Libra"> > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX> > > > > > > > Any> > Body has any exprnce with such charts ?? In real life .If so> > can we discuss > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does!> http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/>

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Pranams,Mr.SunilNairji,Thanks for your acknowledgment and making clear about your interests. It is unfortunate that I have an horoscope of a Makara Lagnam boy who has Venus and Sani 6/8 axis but born in 2006 which may not be useful for drawing any prudential parallel conclusions as the boy is in his initial Surya dasa.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Fri, 25/9/09, astro_tellerkerala

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Dear Dhananjayan ji Thanks for the post and posting a data As the header of this post shows my main interest in discussion was if sat and venus occuppy each other in 6/8 ( as i hav some hidden interests in such a combination as it may has a say in married Life ) sure ,u posted a chart where sani in 8th house and venus in 12th house and being tula lagna and other factors are there for such a dasa but my question is general and according to header for rest of the discussion i am pasting a reply frm my frnd who is welversed in astrology pls read this rgrds sunil nair Dear xxxxxx,

I must thank you for pointing out the source of this assumption. I am giving

below the slokas quoted in Uttarakalamritha.

bhR^igvarkii yadi tungabhe svabhavane varggottamaadau sthitau

tulyauyogakarau tathaiva balinau tau chenmithopaakagau

bhuupaalo dhanadopamo. apisatataM bhikshaashanoniShka laH

tatraikastu balii parastu vibalashchedviiryav aan yogadaH

The conditions that are mentioned here

A) Both the Saturn & Venus should be equally strong

B) They should be in Exaltation or own sign or Vargottamamsa

C) Both should be yoga karakas

If you look closely at the above, you will find that the third condition exists

for signs owned by Saturn & Venus Ie: Makara, Kumbha , Vrishabha & Thula. Both

do not become yoga karaka TOGETHER for no other signs.

so the question now is whether this rule is applicable for the above sign only.

Since the "tathaiva" is used, it is sure that for confering the effect as

mentioned, all the conditions must satisfy. That is it is not enough if any of

the above conditions are met.

Finally the whole effect depends upon on one factor

Strength of Saturn = Strength of Venus.

Strength of planets is according to shadbala.

from the above we can see that the chances of occurence of satisfying all the

conditions are very rare.

Also we have to keep in mind that this is not applicable to other 8 signs.

D) one is strong and the other is weak. The result is given as "yogadaH".

Strictly speaking this word simply implies that any one will confer effects

attibuted to them, which need not be always good also.

The logic here might be that when two planets have equal strengths both gets

cancelled. This view is mentioned where it is said if two exalted aspect each

other, the person lives in poverty. In the Dasa scheme also this rule could be

applied to some extant and with caution.

tau dvaavapyabalau vyayaaShTaripugau talbhaavapau vaapital

tatbhaaveshayutau tadaa shubhakarau saukhyapradau bhogadau

ekasstbhavanaadhipa stadaparashchedd uShTabhaaveshvar -

staavapyatra suyogadaavatibalau tau chenmahaasaukhyadau ..

In this verse the conditions are

If the above two planets are

A) occupy 12 - 8 - 6 signs without strength

B) or they are the lords of 12 - 8 - 6 signs

C) or they are associated with the lords of 12 - 8- 6 th signs

The native shall be confortable & happy even if one of them is disthanadhipathy.

It should be noted that it is not mentioned whether the 12-8-6 is from lagna

/chandra or from the dasa lord.

D) Even if one of them is the lord of an Ishta bhava & the other dushta bhava

(12-8-6) they shall confer great confort during their dasa & sub periods.

 

The conditions (B) & (D) indicates that this could be applied to any of the 12

signs.

The only condition that may be common here the strength of both which should be

very LESS.

Yes this seems to be unnatural effects of two planets that are natual friends

and yoga karakas.

A word of caution: Uttarakalamritha is NOT considered a authentic work

particularly in kerala. This is basically an interpolation work, thories taken

from other works like Parasara Hora, Jaimini etc. But the biggest issue some of

the exception stated both the sages has not been incorporated in this work.

Hence it is adviced to be vary carefull when appying these in real situations.

It is neither a pure work on Astrology alone, because there many chapters

pertaining to rituals not related with Astrology.

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Mr.SunilNairji,> > ".... Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are .... yogakaraka .... > If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 ....... the results of their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good......"> > I agree the above,for the reason:-> > I know a naive who was born on 13th September 1971 @ 8.40AM{PER HOSPITAL RECORDS]in 79E53 / 11 N 56 (Lahiri & 360 day Savana years] whose Sukra bukti in Sani Dasa from 10.7.2003 to 23.8.2006 was extremely good.It should be noted here that the native was born in Thulaa lagnam (Sani and Sukra are functional benefic but both of them are weak),Mithuna rasi-Aarudhra nakshtra.> > Regards/Dhananjayan>

> --- On Thu, 24/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Saturn and venus in 6/8 each other and its dasa> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 6:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List > > > > Here is a discussion happening in another grp> > > > > > I will paste the relevent part of discussion > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXxxxxx> > > > >

> I have not quoted from authentic script.> > > > This from the book of K.N.Rao> > > > Analysing horoscopes through modern techniques> > > > Pg:340 which says> > > > > > "According to Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are> > both strong and> > becomes yogakaraka results of their dasha and antar are> > very> > unfavourable.> > > > Under such conditions the native will be as good as a> > beggar even though he may be rich like kuber.> > > > But if one is strong and another is weak the native will> > enjoy good> > results according to character and strength of stronger> > planet.> > > > If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 or one> > of them is> > situated in 6th or 8th place place or another,

or they own> > any dusthan> > or are posited there or associated with lord of dusthan the> > results of> > their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good.> > > > Saturn and Venus dasas as given by Kalidasa in> > Uttarkalamitra Venus and> > Saturn in their mutual sub periods give good results if> > they are in 6,> > 8, and 12 from each other or in conjunction in such houses,> > with one or> > both debilitated or a malefic for the horoscope.> > > > This rather amusing and seemingly paradoxical operation of> > Venus and> > Saturn is an exception to the general rule. But venus and> > Saturn are> > close friends as is obvious that each one is yogakaraka in> > Capri and> > Aqua lagna and Saturn is yogakaraka in signs wuth lagna of> > Venus

Taurus> > and Libra"> > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX> > > > > > > > Any> > Body has any exprnce with such charts ?? In real life .If so> > can we discuss > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and

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Dear Dhananjayan ji sure ,thanks ( sorry it was a mistake frm my side and i shud hav specified and just now only i re read what i hav posted and the content was implying a diffrnt meaning )My main interest was to see how such dasa ( when sat and venus mutualy in 6/8 or 8/6 ) and wanted to see how this combo will Behav in material life and married Life simultanously .sat in 6th to venus is Ok ( tho it will make the 7th H frm venus in PKY ) but when it is in 8th frm venus then it amnts to papa dosha frm karaka for marriage .sorry if the mail has givn u a diffrnt impressions that is why i posted a the opinion of a scholar in grp Once again i must thank u for bearing me and posting and contributing ur views in grp rgrds sunil nair , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Mr.SunilNairji,> > Thanks for your acknowledgment and making clear about your interests. It is unfortunate that I have an horoscope of a Makara Lagnam boy who has Venus and Sani 6/8 axis but born in 2006 which may not be useful for drawing any prudential parallel conclusions as the boy is in his initial Surya dasa.> > Regards/Dhananjayan> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala Re: Saturn and venus in 6/8 each other and its dasa> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 6:54 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjayan ji > > Thanks for the post and posting a data > > As the header of this post shows my main interest in discussion was if sat and venus occuppy each other in 6/8 ( as i hav some hidden interests in such a combination as it may has a say in married Life ) > > sure ,u posted a chart where sani in 8th house and venus in 12th house and being tula lagna and other factors are there for such a dasa > > but my question is general and according to header > > for rest of the discussion i am pasting a reply frm my frnd who is welversed in astrology > > pls read this > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > Dear xxxxxx,> > > I must thank you for pointing out the source of this assumption. I am giving> > below the slokas quoted in Uttarakalamritha.> > > bhR^igvarkii yadi tungabhe svabhavane varggottamaadau sthitau> > tulyauyogakarau tathaiva balinau tau chenmithopaakagau> > bhuupaalo dhanadopamo. apisatataM bhikshaashanoniShka laH> > tatraikastu balii parastu vibalashchedviiryav aan yogadaH> > The conditions that are mentioned here> > A) Both the Saturn & Venus should be equally strong> > B) They should be in Exaltation or own sign or Vargottamamsa> > C) Both should be yoga karakas> > > If you look closely at the above, you will find that the third condition exists> > for signs owned by Saturn & Venus Ie: Makara, Kumbha , Vrishabha & Thula. Both> > do not become yoga karaka TOGETHER for no other signs.> > > so the question now is whether this rule is applicable for the above sign only.> > Since the "tathaiva" is used, it is sure that for confering the effect as> > mentioned, all the conditions must satisfy. That is it is not enough if any of> > the above conditions are met.> > > Finally the whole effect depends upon on one factor> > > Strength of Saturn = Strength of Venus.> > > Strength of planets is according to shadbala.> > > from the above we can see that the chances of occurence of satisfying all the> > conditions are very rare.> > > Also we have to keep in mind that this is not applicable to other 8 signs.> > > D) one is strong and the other is weak. The result is given as "yogadaH".> > Strictly speaking this word simply implies that any one will confer effects> > attibuted to them, which need not be always good also.> > > The logic here might be that when two planets have equal strengths both gets> > cancelled. This view is mentioned where it is said if two exalted aspect each> > other, the person lives in poverty. In the Dasa scheme also this rule could be> > applied to some extant and with caution.> > > tau dvaavapyabalau vyayaaShTaripugau talbhaavapau vaapital> > tatbhaaveshayutau tadaa shubhakarau saukhyapradau bhogadau> > ekasstbhavanaadhipa stadaparashchedd uShTabhaaveshvar -> > staavapyatra suyogadaavatibalau tau chenmahaasaukhyadau .. > > > In this verse the conditions are> > If the above two planets are> > A) occupy 12 - 8 - 6 signs without strength> > B) or they are the lords of 12 - 8 - 6 signs> > C) or they are associated with the lords of 12 - 8- 6 th signs> > > The native shall be confortable & happy even if one of them is disthanadhipathy.> > > It should be noted that it is not mentioned whether the 12-8-6 is from lagna> > /chandra or from the dasa lord.> > > D) Even if one of them is the lord of an Ishta bhava & the other dushta bhava> > (12-8-6) they shall confer great confort during their dasa & sub periods. > > > > The conditions (B) & (D) indicates that this could be applied to any of the 12> > signs.> > > The only condition that may be common here the strength of both which should be> > very LESS.> > > Yes this seems to be unnatural effects of two planets that are natual friends> > and yoga karakas.> > > A word of caution: Uttarakalamritha is NOT considered a authentic work> > particularly in kerala. This is basically an interpolation work, thories taken> > from other works like Parasara Hora, Jaimini etc. But the biggest issue some of> > the exception stated both the sages has not been incorporated in this work.> > Hence it is adviced to be vary carefull when appying these in real situations.> > It is neither a pure work on Astrology alone, because there many chapters> > pertaining to rituals not related with Astrology.> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> > > > Mr.SunilNairji,> > > > ".... Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are .... yogakaraka .... > > If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 ....... the results of their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good......"> > > > I agree the above,for the reason:-> > > > I know a naive who was born on 13th September 1971 @ 8.40AM{PER HOSPITAL RECORDS]in 79E53 / 11 N 56 (Lahiri & 360 day Savana years] whose Sukra bukti in Sani Dasa from 10.7.2003 to 23.8.2006 was extremely good.It should be noted here that the native was born in Thulaa lagnam (Sani and Sukra are functional benefic but both of them are weak),Mithuna rasi-Aarudhra nakshtra.> > > > Regards/Dhananjayan> > > > --- On Thu, 24/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Saturn and venus in 6/8 each other and its dasa> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 6:45 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List > > > > > > Here is a discussion happening in another grp> > > > > > > > > I will paste the relevent part of discussion > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXxxxxx> > > > > > > > > I have not quoted from authentic script.> > > > > > This from the book of K.N.Rao> > > > > > Analysing horoscopes through modern techniques> > > > > > Pg:340 which says> > > > > > > > > "According to Uttarkalamitra if Saturn and Venus are> > > both strong and> > > becomes yogakaraka results of their dasha and antar are> > > very> > > unfavourable.> > > > > > Under such conditions the native will be as good as a> > > beggar even though he may be rich like kuber.> > > > > > But if one is strong and another is weak the native will> > > enjoy good> > > results according to character and strength of stronger> > > planet.> > > > > > If both of them be weak and are posited 6, 8 and 12 or one> > > of them is> > > situated in 6th or 8th place place or another, or they own> > > any dusthan> > > or are posited there or associated with lord of dusthan the> > > results of> > > their dasha ao antar will be exceptionally good.> > > > > > Saturn and Venus dasas as given by Kalidasa in> > > Uttarkalamitra Venus and> > > Saturn in their mutual sub periods give good results if> > > they are in 6,> > > 8, and 12 from each other or in conjunction in such houses,> > > with one or> > > both debilitated or a malefic for the horoscope.> > > > > > This rather amusing and seemingly paradoxical operation of> > > Venus and> > > Saturn is an exception to the general rule. But venus and> > > Saturn are> > > close friends as is obvious that each one is yogakaraka in> > > Capri and> > > Aqua lagna and Saturn is yogakaraka in signs wuth lagna of> > > Venus Taurus> > > and Libra"> > > > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX> > > > > > > > > > > > Any> > > Body has any exprnce with such charts ?? 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