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Dear chandu 2 chill,

 

Thank you for your kind mail which I liked very much with the politeness

you have answered.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

, " CP " <nanna_id2006

wrote:

>

> Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and

Esteemed Group,

>

> Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri

Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all

even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter

which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In

fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught

> attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails

long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to

> them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning

> Astrology!!** Hope learned and respected members will understand me

and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to

clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but

the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing..

>

> In my humble view 8H is also a house of *TRANSFORMATION* either by

bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the

house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H

2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H

so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced

and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident

(Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interaction with you

all here and many learned people if not martial happiness…

>

> Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.

>

> Now,

>

> //Shri Manoj Ji

>

> Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt

work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that

we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the

double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his

case, lets see it again.

>

> Chandu: Our tireless and a person with zeal and selfless intention to

share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth

data. I am just re-producing

>

> DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka

>

> Date of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM

to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done

this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this

for your notice.)

>

> Shri Bhaskar Ji,

>

> //Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at

least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your

Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are

much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//

>

> Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and

try to be more careful in future.

>

> //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by

> Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.

> Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//

>

> Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try

to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or

was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in

this subject.

>

> Shri Sunil Ji,

>

> //rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala

astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of

controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by

me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional

Knowledge

>

> in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa

> and there is other pointers too//

>

> Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I

came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the

> same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after 3-4 months

after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at

last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from

our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just

after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was

working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I

was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.

>

> //and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the

date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu

nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression

also happened to major planets)

>

> if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious

solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just

finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //

>

> Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was

Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu rasi But No complaints against your

memory..:-)

>

> With regards and respect

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

>

>

> , " astro_tellerkerala "

astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

>

> Dear manoj Ji

>

> rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology

> also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or

> some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is

my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge

>

> in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa

> and there is other pointers too

>

> and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date

of marriage is available

>

> the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work

in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major

planets )

>

> if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious

solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just

finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

>

> > , Manoj Kumar

> > <mouji99@> wrote:

>

> In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage

> giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage

> unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).

> Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with

the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is

the second house which is important and not the 8th house.

>

> Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt

> work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so

that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for

the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in

his case, lets see it again.

>

> Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is " dhyan " and eighth is

> " samadhi " is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is

> then connected to BVB is some way.

>

> Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them

> towards spirituality.

>

> regards,

>

> Mouji

>

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Dear chandu Ji the double transit theorey which is a term givn by shri KN rao Ji is taken frm Brigu nadi principle But it has its own exceptions and conditions too one such condition is Jup will aspect Lagna Lord or 7th Lord or respectiv houses within one yr ( as jup is generaly one yr almost in transit ) same way upto Moon( Planets like moon will reduce and pinpoint the event upto days ) will participate generaly in this theorem tho generaly known as double transit theorey in general ever since shri KN rao ji used such a term for english Knowing general public .for exmple u can see sun over ur lagna Lord mars ( sun is masa krit or indicator of Month ) ,and already crossed ur 7th H and aspected ur lagna too .sani was in vakra and aspecting frm behind sign over to the mars there is addtional factors too ( Like rahu ,ketu which can bring problems too even while other planets showing an event,and such events will b postponed or exprenced badly later . )also some Muhurtha points too which can show how the event may b exprenced in the Long run even diffrnt marriage karaka has taken in diffrnt nadies for exmple the Jaimini system uses DK as it is short term for Dara karaka ( and mind it there is 7 karaka scheme and 8 karaka schme ) some schools uses Venus as karaka and there is another school sees Mars as karaka for bringing marriage etc even ur dasa was rahu -mars -venus and venus and mars was in 8th House frm ur lagna Tho mars is 8th Lord we need to see as many as the charts to learn and understand this concept ,I cannot type every riders and conditions here how whole navagrahs will bring ( Blessses or deminish the effect of ) an event . hope i cud able to giv some vague idea abt the concept for more details read rao ji s books .Generaly speaking such an event was possible even b4 one yr and there was some problems too showing that time also dasa where not completly supporting ( as rahu -Moon dasa and Moon was weak in digital strnght .) But u hav to tell us if such any kind of events has happened and then rejected or postponed etc .rgrds sunil nair , "CP" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and Esteemed Group,> > Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught > attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to > them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning > Astrology!!** Hope learned and respected members will understand me and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing.. > > In my humble view 8H is also a house of *TRANSFORMATION* either by bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H 2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident (Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interaction with you all here and many learned people if not martial happiness… > > Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.> > Now,> > //Shri Manoj Ji> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Chandu: Our tireless and a person with zeal and selfless intention to share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth data. I am just re-producing > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka> > Date of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this for your notice.)> > Shri Bhaskar Ji,> > //Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//> > Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and try to be more careful in future. > > //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by> Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.> Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//> > Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in this subject.> > Shri Sunil Ji,> > //rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> and there is other pointers too//> > Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the > same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after 3-4 months after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.> > //and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major planets)> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //> > Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu rasi But No complaints against your memory..:-)> > With regards and respect > > Chandu2Chill> > > > , "astro_tellerkerala" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Dear manoj Ji> > rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology> also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or> some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> and there is other pointers too> > and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date of marriage is available> > the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major planets )> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )> > rgrds sunil nair> > > > , Manoj Kumar> > <mouji99@> wrote:> > In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage> giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage> unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).> Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt> work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is> "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is> then connected to BVB is some way.> > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them> towards spirituality.> > regards,> > Mouji>

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Respected Shri Sunil Ji,

 

Thank you so much for your further inputs, which are not just vague ideas But

for me food for thought and additional learning process. yes i will certainly

follow your advise and read books of Shri KNR Ji.

 

//for more details read rao ji s books .Generaly speaking such an event was

possible even b4 one yr and there was some problems too showing that time also

dasa where not completly supporting ( as rahu -Moon dasa and Moon was weak in

digital strnght .) But u hav to tell us if such any kind of events has happened

and then rejected or postponed etc.//

 

Sir, this same question was asked by one of the learned Astrologer as well. As

you mentioned, he also asked after reading my questions/post

lont time back.

 

He asked me What happened during Rahu-Moon perod? did you had any failed affair

or any relationship/engagement got broke?

 

But to tell you all...

 

During Rahu-Moon From Sept 2002 to March 2004 there was nothing even initiation

of my Marriage talks etc nor do i had any relationships not seen any girl for

marriage etc..

 

Actually i had very serious/Love relationship during my college days During

Rahu-Mercury for entire period from 1995-97 both yrs included. But somehow

(mostly it is me not taking the final step or firm decision to marry with this

Girl) could not culminate in Marriage.

just sharing some more facts.

 

Pls do reply me at your convenient..

 

With regards

 

Chandu2Chill

 

, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

Dear chandu Ji

 

the double transit theorey which is a term givn by shri KN rao Ji is

taken frm Brigu nadi principle

 

But it has its own exceptions and conditions too

 

one such condition is Jup will aspect Lagna Lord or 7th Lord or

respectiv houses within one yr ( as jup is generaly one yr almost in

transit) same way upto Moon( Planets like moon will reduce and pinpoint the

event upto days ) will participate generaly in this theorem tho generaly known

as double transit theorey in general ever since shri KN rao ji used such a term

for english Knowing general public.

 

for exmple u can see sun over ur lagna Lord mars ( sun is masa krit or

indicator of Month ) ,and already crossed ur 7th H and aspected ur

lagna too. sani was in vakra and aspecting frm behind sign over to the mars

there is addtional factors too ( Like rahu ,ketu which can bring problems too

even while other planets showing an event,and such events will b postponed or

exprenced badly later . )

 

also some Muhurtha points too which can show how the event may b

exprenced in the Long run

 

even diffrnt marriage karaka has taken in diffrnt nadies

 

for exmple the Jaimini system uses DK as it is short term for Dara

karaka (and mind it there is 7 karaka scheme and 8 karaka schme )

some schools uses Venus as karaka and there is another school sees Mars as

karaka for bringing marriage etc

 

even ur dasa was rahu -mars -venus and venus and mars was in 8th House

frm ur lagna Tho mars is 8th Lord

 

we need to see as many as the charts to learn and understand this

concept ,

 

I cannot type every riders and conditions here how whole navagrahs will bring

(Blessses or deminish the effect of ) an event .

 

hope i cud able to giv some vague idea abt the concept

 

for more details read rao ji s books .Generaly speaking such an event

was possible even b4 one yr and there was some problems too showing that time

also dasa where not completly supporting ( as rahu -Moon dasa and Moon was weak

in digital strnght .) But u hav to tell us if such any kind of events has

happened and then rejected or postponed etc.

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

> , " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

wrote:

> >

> > Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and

> Esteemed Group,

> >

> > Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri

> Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all

> even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter

> which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In

> fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught

> > attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails

> long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to

> > them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning

> > Astrology!!** Hope learned and respected members will understand me

> and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to

> clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but

> the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing..

> >

> > In my humble view 8H is also a house of *TRANSFORMATION* either by

> bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the

> house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H

> 2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H

> so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced

> and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident

> (Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interaction with you

> all here and many learned people if not martial happiness…

> >

> > Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.

> >

> > Now,

> >

> > //Shri Manoj Ji

> >

> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt

> work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that

> we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the

> double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his

> case, lets see it again.

> >

> > Chandu: Our tireless and a person with zeal and selfless intention to

> share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth

> data. I am just re-producing

> >

> > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka

> >

> > Date of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM

> to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done

> this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this

> for your notice.)

> >

> > Shri Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > //Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at

> least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your

> Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are

> much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//

> >

> > Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and

> try to be more careful in future.

> >

> > //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by

> > Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.

> > Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//

> >

> > Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try

> to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or

> was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in

> this subject.

> >

> > Shri Sunil Ji,

> >

> > //rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala

> astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of

> controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by

> me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional

> Knowledge

> >

> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa

> > and there is other pointers too//

> >

> > Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I

> came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the

> > same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after 3-4 months

> after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at

> last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from

> our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just

> after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was

> working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I

> was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.

> >

> > //and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the

> date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu

> nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression

> also happened to major planets)

> >

> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious

> solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just

> finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //

> >

> > Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was

> Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu rasi But No complaints against your

> memory..:-)

> >

> > With regards and respect

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> >

> >

> > , " astro_tellerkerala "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear manoj Ji

> >

> > rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology

> > also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or

> > some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is

> my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge

> >

> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa

> > and there is other pointers too

> >

> > and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date

> of marriage is available

> >

> > the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work

> in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major

> planets )

> >

> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious

> solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just

> finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> >

> > > , Manoj Kumar

> > > <mouji99@> wrote:

> >

> > In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage

> > giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage

> > unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).

> > Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with

> the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is

> the second house which is important and not the 8th house.

> >

> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt

> > work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so

> that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for

> the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in

> his case, lets see it again.

> >

> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is " dhyan " and eighth is

> > " samadhi " is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is

> > then connected to BVB is some way.

> >

> > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them

> > towards spirituality.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji

> >

>

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Dear chandu Ji Thanks for ur inputs XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXActually i had very serious/Love relationship during my college days During

Rahu-Mercury for entire period from 1995-97 both yrs included. But somehow

(mostly it is me not taking the final step or firm decision to marry with this

Girl) could not culminate in Marriage.

just sharing some more facts.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Rahu is always a marriage giver and even another karaka for romance( as foremost loukia sukha Bhoga karaka ) ,but dasantara Lords conditions /karaka s will hav say what wil b the quality/status etc of such a girl or Lady whom may b in lov with US Actualy 5th house is house of romance and at right time of the age planets aspecting 5th house ,Lord etc can giv romance Planets in maraka houses ( 2nd and 7th frm such Bhavas ) or Lords can break it too If no marriage dasa is working on such periods if connected to 7th house ( sure desa /kala priciple has to b used here ) even it may end up in physical realtionship than blessing a marriage .these r my quick thoughts /some pointers without going into chart much rgrds sunil nair

, "CP" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Respected Shri Sunil Ji,> > Thank you so much for your further inputs, which are not just vague ideas But for me food for thought and additional learning process. yes i will certainly follow your advise and read books of Shri KNR Ji.> > //for more details read rao ji s books .Generaly speaking such an event was possible even b4 one yr and there was some problems too showing that time also dasa where not completly supporting ( as rahu -Moon dasa and Moon was weak in digital strnght .) But u hav to tell us if such any kind of events has happened and then rejected or postponed etc.//> > Sir, this same question was asked by one of the learned Astrologer as well. As you mentioned, he also asked after reading my questions/post> lont time back.> > He asked me What happened during Rahu-Moon perod? did you had any failed affair or any relationship/engagement got broke?> > But to tell you all...> > During Rahu-Moon From Sept 2002 to March 2004 there was nothing even initiation of my Marriage talks etc nor do i had any relationships not seen any girl for marriage etc.. > > Actually i had very serious/Love relationship during my college days During Rahu-Mercury for entire period from 1995-97 both yrs included. But somehow (mostly it is me not taking the final step or firm decision to marry with this Girl) could not culminate in Marriage.> just sharing some more facts.> > Pls do reply me at your convenient..> > With regards> > Chandu2Chill> > , "astro_tellerkerala" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Dear chandu Ji> > the double transit theorey which is a term givn by shri KN rao Ji is> taken frm Brigu nadi principle> > But it has its own exceptions and conditions too> > one such condition is Jup will aspect Lagna Lord or 7th Lord or> respectiv houses within one yr ( as jup is generaly one yr almost in> transit) same way upto Moon( Planets like moon will reduce and pinpoint the event upto days ) will participate generaly in this theorem tho generaly known as double transit theorey in general ever since shri KN rao ji used such a term for english Knowing general public.> > for exmple u can see sun over ur lagna Lord mars ( sun is masa krit or> indicator of Month ) ,and already crossed ur 7th H and aspected ur> lagna too. sani was in vakra and aspecting frm behind sign over to the mars there is addtional factors too ( Like rahu ,ketu which can bring problems too even while other planets showing an event,and such events will b postponed or exprenced badly later . )> > also some Muhurtha points too which can show how the event may b> exprenced in the Long run> > even diffrnt marriage karaka has taken in diffrnt nadies> > for exmple the Jaimini system uses DK as it is short term for Dara> karaka (and mind it there is 7 karaka scheme and 8 karaka schme )> some schools uses Venus as karaka and there is another school sees Mars as karaka for bringing marriage etc> > even ur dasa was rahu -mars -venus and venus and mars was in 8th House> frm ur lagna Tho mars is 8th Lord> > we need to see as many as the charts to learn and understand this> concept ,> > I cannot type every riders and conditions here how whole navagrahs will bring (Blessses or deminish the effect of ) an event .> > hope i cud able to giv some vague idea abt the concept> > for more details read rao ji s books .Generaly speaking such an event> was possible even b4 one yr and there was some problems too showing that time also dasa where not completly supporting ( as rahu -Moon dasa and Moon was weak in digital strnght .) But u hav to tell us if such any kind of events has happened and then rejected or postponed etc.> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "CP" <nanna_id2006@>> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and> > Esteemed Group,> > >> > > Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri> > Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all> > even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter> > which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In> > fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught> > > attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails> > long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to> > > them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning> > > Astrology!!** Hope learned and respected members will understand me> > and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to> > clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but> > the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing..> > >> > > In my humble view 8H is also a house of *TRANSFORMATION* either by> > bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the> > house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H> > 2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H> > so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced> > and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident> > (Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interaction with you> > all here and many learned people if not martial happiness…> > >> > > Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.> > >> > > Now,> > >> > > //Shri Manoj Ji> > >> > > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt> > work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that> > we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the> > double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his> > case, lets see it again.> > >> > > Chandu: Our tireless and a person with zeal and selfless intention to> > share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth> > data. I am just re-producing> > >> > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka> > >> > > Date of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM> > to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done> > this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this> > for your notice.)> > >> > > Shri Bhaskar Ji,> > >> > > //Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at> > least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your> > Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are> > much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//> > >> > > Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and> > try to be more careful in future.> > >> > > //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by> > > Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.> > > Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//> > >> > > Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try> > to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or> > was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in> > this subject.> > >> > > Shri Sunil Ji,> > >> > > //rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala> > astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of> > controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by> > me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional> > Knowledge> > >> > > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> > > and there is other pointers too//> > >> > > Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I> > came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the> > > same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after 3-4 months> > after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at> > last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from> > our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just> > after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was> > working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I> > was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.> > >> > > //and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the> > date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu> > nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression> > also happened to major planets)> > >> > > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious> > solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just> > finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //> > >> > > Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was> > Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu rasi But No complaints against your> > memory..:-)> > >> > > With regards and respect> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > >> > > , "astro_tellerkerala"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear manoj Ji> > >> > > rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology> > > also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or> > > some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is> > my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge> > >> > > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> > > and there is other pointers too> > >> > > and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date> > of marriage is available> > >> > > the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work> > in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major> > planets )> > >> > > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious> > solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just> > finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > > > , Manoj Kumar> > > > <mouji99@> wrote:> > >> > > In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage> > > giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage> > > unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).> > > Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with> > the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is> > the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > >> > > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt> > > work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so> > that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for> > the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in> > his case, lets see it again.> > >> > > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is> > > "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is> > > then connected to BVB is some way.> > >> > > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them> > > towards spirituality.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Mouji> > >> >>

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Dear Chandu Ji,

 

Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that has not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been trying much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this method each house then has two lords.

 

Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of 2H, 7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars has the ability to give marriage.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

CP <nanna_id2006 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:30:10 AM Chandu's Response to Shri Bhaskar Ji, Shri Sunil Ji and All

Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and Esteemed Group,Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning Astrology!!* * Hope learned and respected members will understand me and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing.. In my humble view 8H is also a house

of *TRANSFORMATION* either by bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H 2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident (Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interact ion with you all here and many learned people if not martial happiness… Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.Now,//Shri Manoj JiRegarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.Chandu: Our tireless and

a person with zeal and selfless intention to share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth data. I am just re-producing DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund KarnatakaDate of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this for your notice.)Shri Bhaskar Ji,//Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and try to be more careful in future. //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned byVenus, who signifies the 2nd,

7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in this subject.Shri Sunil Ji,//rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledgein chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsaand there is other pointers too//Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after

3-4 months after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.//and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major planets)if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu

rasi But No complaints against your memory..:-)With regards and respect Chandu2Chillancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:Dear manoj Jirahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrologyalso and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy orsome not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledgein chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsaand there is other pointers tooand as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date of marriage is availablethe KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it

will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major planets )if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )rgrds sunil nair> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> <mouji99@> wrote:In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriagegiver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriageunconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th

house.Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesntwork in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is"samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she isthen connected to BVB is some way.Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take themtowards spirituality.regards,Mouji

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Dear manoj Ji sure ,thanks for seeing the chart with Iyyers techniq also another pointer in Mars sub period is mars is navamsa dispositor of venus the 7th L of His chart and qualified to giv the effects of 7th House and also there is a navamsa parivarthan happening between mars and venus This r few pointers frm traditional methods followed in kerala traditions rgrds sunil nair , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Chandu Ji,> > Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that has not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been trying much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this method each house then has two lords.> > Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of 2H, 7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars has the ability to give marriage.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ________________________________> CP nanna_id2006 > Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:30:10 AM> Chandu's Response to Shri Bhaskar Ji, Shri Sunil Ji and All> >  > Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and Esteemed Group,> > Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught > attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to > them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning > Astrology!!* * Hope learned and respected members will understand me and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing.. > > In my humble view 8H is also a house of *TRANSFORMATION* either by bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H 2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident (Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interact ion with you all here and many learned people if not martial happiness… > > Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.> > Now,> > //Shri Manoj Ji> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Chandu: Our tireless and a person with zeal and selfless intention to share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth data. I am just re-producing > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka> > Date of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this for your notice.)> > Shri Bhaskar Ji,> > //Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//> > Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and try to be more careful in future. > > //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by> Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.> Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//> > Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in this subject.> > Shri Sunil Ji,> > //rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> and there is other pointers too//> > Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the > same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after 3-4 months after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.> > //and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major planets)> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //> > Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu rasi But No complaints against your memory..:-)> > With regards and respect > > Chandu2Chill> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > Dear manoj Ji> > rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology> also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or> some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> and there is other pointers too> > and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date of marriage is available> > the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major planets )> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )> > rgrds sunil nair> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> > <mouji99@> wrote:> > In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage> giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage> unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).> Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt> work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his case, lets see it again.> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is> "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is> then connected to BVB is some way.> > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them> towards spirituality.> > regards,> > Mouji>

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Dear Sunil Ji,

 

Yes. Very good point. Venus playing double role also being 7L. From all the

points made so far we have 2, 7, 11 all over the place. Thanks to Chandu Ji for

this nice exercise.

 

Regards,

 

-Manoj

 

, " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> Dear manoj Ji

>

> sure ,thanks for seeing the chart with Iyyers techniq

>

> also another pointer in Mars sub period is mars is navamsa dispositor of

> venus the 7th L of His chart and qualified to giv the effects of 7th

> House and also there is a navamsa parivarthan happening between mars and

> venus

>

> This r few pointers frm traditional methods followed in kerala

> traditions

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

>

>

>

> , Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandu Ji,

> >

> > Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that has

> not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been

> trying much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's

> principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola lord

> is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the

> Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this method

> each house then has two lords.

> >

> > Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of

> 2H, 7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see

> that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he

> also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars has

> the ability to give marriage.

> > Â

> > Regards,

> > Â -Manoj

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > CP nanna_id2006@

> >

> > Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:30:10 AM

> > Chandu's Response to Shri Bhaskar

> Ji, Shri Sunil Ji and All

> >

> > Â

> > Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and

> Esteemed Group,

> >

> > Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri

> Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all

> even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter

> which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In

> fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught

> > attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails

> long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to

> > them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning

> > Astrology!!* * Hope learned and respected members will understand me

> and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to

> clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but

> the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing..

> >

> > In my humble view 8H is also a house of *TRANSFORMATION* either by

> bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the

> house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H

> 2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H

> so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced

> and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident

> (Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interact ion with you

> all here and many learned people if not martial happiness…

> >

> > Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.

> >

> > Now,

> >

> > //Shri Manoj Ji

> >

> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt

> work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that

> we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the

> double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his

> case, lets see it again.

> >

> > Chandu: Our tireless and a person with zeal and selfless intention to

> share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth

> data. I am just re-producing

> >

> > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka

> >

> > Date of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM

> to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done

> this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this

> for your notice.)

> >

> > Shri Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > //Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at

> least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your

> Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are

> much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//

> >

> > Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and

> try to be more careful in future.

> >

> > //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by

> > Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.

> > Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//

> >

> > Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try

> to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or

> was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in

> this subject.

> >

> > Shri Sunil Ji,

> >

> > //rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala

> astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of

> controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by

> me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional

> Knowledge

> >

> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa

> > and there is other pointers too//

> >

> > Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I

> came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the

> > same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after 3-4 months

> after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at

> last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from

> our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just

> after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was

> working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I

> was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.

> >

> > //and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the

> date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu

> nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression

> also happened to major planets)

> >

> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious

> solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just

> finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //

> >

> > Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was

> Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu rasi But No complaints against your

> memory..:-)

> >

> > With regards and respect

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> " astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> > Dear manoj Ji

> >

> > rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology

> > also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or

> > some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is

> my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge

> >

> > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa

> > and there is other pointers too

> >

> > and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date

> of marriage is available

> >

> > the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work

> in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major

> planets )

> >

> > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious

> solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just

> finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar

> > > <mouji99@> wrote:

> >

> > In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage

> > giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage

> > unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).

> > Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with

> the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is

> the second house which is important and not the 8th house.

> >

> > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt

> > work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so

> that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for

> the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in

> his case, lets see it again.

> >

> > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is " dhyan " and eighth is

> > " samadhi " is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is

> > then connected to BVB is some way.

> >

> > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them

> > towards spirituality.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji

> >

>

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Dear manoj Ji sure ,Thanks to chandu Ji too for such a nice exercise rgrds sunil nair , "Manoj" <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji,> > Yes. Very good point. Venus playing double role also being 7L. From all the points made so far we have 2, 7, 11 all over the place. Thanks to Chandu Ji for this nice exercise.> > Regards,> > -Manoj> > , "astro_tellerkerala" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear manoj Ji> > > > sure ,thanks for seeing the chart with Iyyers techniq> > > > also another pointer in Mars sub period is mars is navamsa dispositor of> > venus the 7th L of His chart and qualified to giv the effects of 7th> > House and also there is a navamsa parivarthan happening between mars and> > venus> > > > This r few pointers frm traditional methods followed in kerala> > traditions> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Chandu Ji,> > >> > > Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that has> > not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been> > trying much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's> > principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola lord> > is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the> > Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this method> > each house then has two lords.> > >> > > Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of> > 2H, 7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see> > that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he> > also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars has> > the ability to give marriage.> > > Â> > > Regards,> > >  -Manoj> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > CP nanna_id2006@> > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:30:10 AM> > > Chandu's Response to Shri Bhaskar> > Ji, Shri Sunil Ji and All> > >> > > Â> > > Respected Shri Bharskar Ji, Shri Sunil Nair Ji, Shri Manoji and> > Esteemed Group,> > >> > > Honestly I am indebted by all your kind responses and especially Shri> > Sunil Ji and Shri Bhaskar Ji I do not have any words to thank you all> > even describe your dedication towards this divine Science (No matter> > which branch of Astrology I don't want to make any comments on that). In> > fact just to share my way of questioning astrology caught> > > attention of skeptics like AKK and Sanath Kumar Jain who sent me mails> > long back that Astrology is rubbish etc etc BUT my answer to> > > them was **I believe in Astrology THAT is why I am questioning> > > Astrology!!* * Hope learned and respected members will understand me> > and this genuine quest for understanding this great science. And also to> > clear that I am and was never here or in any forum for Free readings but> > the forums like these are meant for discussion and knowledge sharing..> > >> > > In my humble view 8H is also a house of *TRANSFORMATION* either by> > bringing death or producing death like situation/results whenever the> > house or its lord has been activated I believe. My basic knowledge, 1H> > 2H 3H 4H stands for Dharma Artha Kaama Moksha. Same repeats from 5H 12H> > so 8th house stands for Moksha in this sequence) And I am experienced> > and still experiencing the same. I firmly believe this one incident> > (Marriage) blessed me and brought me in connection/interact ion with you> > all here and many learned people if not martial happiness…> > >> > > Thank you once again for your valuable time and contribution.> > >> > > Now,> > >> > > //Shri Manoj Ji> > >> > > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt> > work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so that> > we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for the> > double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in his> > case, lets see it again.> > >> > > Chandu: Our tireless and a person with zeal and selfless intention to> > share and educate: Shri Sunil Nair Ji has already provided my birth> > data. I am just re-producing> > >> > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund Karnataka> > >> > > Date of Marriage: 19th December 2004 Muhurtha Time: between 10:35 AM> > to 11:45 AM Place: Chitradurga. (Note: Shri Sunil ji has already done> > this muhurtha analysis long back in AIA itself I am just bringing this> > for your notice.)> > >> > > Shri Bhaskar Ji,> > >> > > //Its utter disappointment for me to note your observation though at> > least 5000 mails must have already passed on commenting on your> > Horoscopes by hundreds of astrologers on these forums, but yet you are> > much away from the truth. What did you learn in last 2 years ??????//> > >> > > Chandu: I accept your comments with all due respect and regards and> > try to be more careful in future.> > >> > > //Please note that Mars is the only planet placed in P.asadha owned by> > > Venus, who signifies the 2nd, 7th and the 11th houses in Your Chart.> > > Venus is placed in 11th and owns 2nd and 7th houses in your Chart.//> > >> > > Chandu: thank you for this very basic but practical lesson. I did try> > to understand from this Nakshatra disposition but it was my mistake or> > was not able to understand owing to my to my rudimentary knowledge in> > this subject.> > >> > > Shri Sunil Ji,> > >> > > //rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala> > astrology also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of> > controversy or some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by> > me and it is my personal view and nothing to do with traditional> > Knowledge> > >> > > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> > > and there is other pointers too//> > >> > > Chandu: I agree with you. During my beginning days in forums I> > came across 2 persons who had Rahu in 8H and one person was in the> > > same situation i.e. married life mess and I think after 3-4 months> > after our discussion he came back to me and told me He got divorced at> > last.. person was very humble and practical (what I can make-out from> > our pvt discussions) got into relationship with a girl who was just> > after money. Unfortunately I don't have his birth data now as I was> > working in diff Co and was using Co's office PC. And also 2 Yrs back I> > was in great trouble with my job and frequent travels to India etc.> > >> > > //and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the> > date of marriage is available the KN rao principle is based on brigu> > nadi and i think it will work in any case ( but has to see retrogression> > also happened to major planets)> > >> > > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious> > solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just> > finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra) //> > >> > > Chandu: Sir, kind correction: during my marriage muhurtha it was> > Aquarius Lagna Sun was in Dhanu rasi But No complaints against your> > memory..:-)> > >> > > With regards and respect> > >> > > Chandu2Chill> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > >> > > Dear manoj Ji> > >> > > rahu is considered as Unconditional marriage giver in kerala astrology> > > also and many cases at times it may b with some sort of controversy or> > > some not so regularity in such marriages is observed by me and it is> > my personal view and nothing to do with traditional Knowledge> > >> > > in chandu s case rahu and mars Both givn amsa in 7 th House or tulamsa> > > and there is other pointers too> > >> > > and as regrds to double transit etc i am yet to see provided the date> > of marriage is available> > >> > > the KN rao principle is based on brigu nadi and i think it will work> > in any case ( but has to see retrogression also happened to major> > planets )> > >> > > if my memory is correct chandu ji s marriage happened in aquarious> > solar month when sun was transitting in kumbha rasi ( so jup is just> > finished vakra may b/or abt to b vakra )> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> > > > <mouji99@> wrote:> > >> > > In parts of North India, Rahu is considered as an unqualified marriage> > > giver. People call Rahu as Bahau (or one which gives marriage> > > unconditionally without getting connected to the houses of marriage).> > > Any planet in the 8th house, automatically, makes a connection with> > the second house and hence become eligible for giving marriage but it is> > the second house which is important and not the 8th house.> > >> > > Regarding Shri Chandu's observation that double transit theory doesnt> > > work in his case, I would request him to provide his birth data so> > that we can examine it again. Because in my observation, it is rare for> > the double transit theory to fail. But since he says it doesnt work in> > his case, lets see it again.> > >> > > Vandana Mishra's observation that seventh is "dhyan" and eighth is> > > "samadhi" is a valid observation and it makes it obvious that she is> > > then connected to BVB is some way.> > >> > > Seventh house afflictions in case of females does tend to take them> > > towards spirituality.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Mouji> > >> >>

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Dear Manoji,

 

Thankyou for putting one more important Iyer's principle.

// It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses.

The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord

of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this

method each house then has two lords.//

 

Just my understanding on this principle.

`House' in the horoscope basically indicate two sambhands :

1) Signs

and 2) Bhava.

 

1) Signs

: The karak for signs is Sun, as 12 rasis indicate twelve position of sun in a

single rotation. Sign will indicate the circumstances

native will face and its lord will show up the application of this Buddi

(Intelligence), how he applies dharma on that particular circumstances.

This is clearly termed as Sthoola lord by

Sri Iyer.

 

2) Bhava

: This means emotions (Chita). Emotion is rules by moon which is infact the lord

of Nakshatra. (moon is married to all nakshtras, Rohini is favorite because

moon stays much longer period there). The emotional experience of the house can

be seen from the nakshtra of the lord of house which is used widely or it can

be shown up the nakshatra of the house (cusps) which is termed as Sookshma lord by Sri

Iyer.

This principle is very interesting, logically digestable and thankyou for showing up its application also.

I hope the division of bhava is based on the Ascendant degree + 30 degree and its multiples.

Thankyou for sharing :)

 

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Chandu Ji,> > Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that has not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been trying much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this method each house then has two lords.> > Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of 2H, 7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars has the ability to give marriage.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj

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dear Manoj ji,

 

The principle which you have explained is a part of KP astrology itself.

This is what I was doing when I analysed the chart in question. If one

reads the initial 6 Readers of KP, these are all tabular form with

examples.

 

in KP, Rashi lord, Star Lord of cusp is what we look for when the query

comes in question with any event as regards to the 12 houses and their

significations.

 

The only problem which would come to the Traditional astrologer here,

would be to know for sure whether the Cuspal StarLord is the one which

shows on the Computer screen.

 

Actually this is a mix of parshari Bhava Chalit and Traditional

astrology of the nakshatras. For want of hard work and efforts, this

method has been lost to the many traditional astrologers but was

actually in force since long. Astrologers(?) these days like to just

pick up ready made results from books and quote without bothering for

deep study, which is why we do not see many of these theories in vogue.

 

Thank you for putting this message across the Group, which proves that

knowledge is endless and nothing is new under this sky on unknown to

Indian astrologers.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> , Manoj Chandran

> chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandu Ji,

> >

> > Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that

has

> not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been

> trying much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's

> principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola

lord

> is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the

> Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this

method

> each house then has two lords.

> >

> > Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of

> 2H, 7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see

> that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he

> also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars

has

> the ability to give marriage.

> > Â

> > Regards,

> > Â -Manoj

> > Â

>

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Dear Goel ji,No doubt as signs are governed by Sun , they represent intellectuallevel , but houses represent physical levelAs nakshatras are ruled by Moon ,They represent emotional levelRegards,G. K. Goel

From: goyalvjDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Chandu's Response to Shri Bhaskar Ji, Shri Sunil Ji and All

 

 

 

 

Dear Manoji,

 

Thankyou for putting one more important Iyer's principle.

// It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses.

The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord

of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this

method each house then has two lords.//

 

Just my understanding on this principle.

`House' in the horoscope basically indicate two sambhands :

1) Signs

and 2) Bhava.

 

1) Signs

: The karak for signs is Sun, as 12 rasis indicate twelve position of sun in a

single rotation. Sign will indicate the circumstances

native will face and its lord will show up the application of this Buddi

(Intelligence), how he applies dharma on that particular circumstances.

This is clearly termed as Sthoola lord by

Sri Iyer.

 

2) Bhava

: This means emotions (Chita). Emotion is rules by moon which is infact the lord

of Nakshatra. (moon is married to all nakshtras, Rohini is favorite because

moon stays much longer period there). The emotional experience of the house can

be seen from the nakshtra of the lord of house which is used widely or it can

be shown up the nakshatra of the house (cusps) which is termed as Sookshma lord by Sri

Iyer.

This principle is very interesting, logically digestable and thankyou for showing up its application also.

I hope the division of bhava is based on the Ascendant degree + 30 degree and its multiples.

Thankyou for sharing :)

 

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Chandu Ji,> > Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that has not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been trying much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this method each house then has two lords.> > Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of 2H, 7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars has the ability to give marriage.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj

 

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Respected Shri Bhaskar Ji, Shri Manoj Ji, Shri Vijay Ji,

 

Thank you for bringing another scholar's (Shri Iyer) method/approach in

deliniating, understanding various aspects of the chart..it is indeed helpful in

learning. And as usual Bhaskar Jis KP

approach/method is also very nice to read and understand.

 

Regards

 

Chandu2Chill

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

 

dear Manoj ji,

 

The principle which you have explained is a part of KP astrology itself. This is

what I was doing when I analysed the chart in question. If one reads the initial

6 Readers of KP, these are all tabular form with examples.

 

in KP, Rashi lord, Star Lord of cusp is what we look for when the query comes in

question with any event as regards to the 12 houses and their significations.

 

The only problem which would come to the Traditional astrologer here,

would be to know for sure whether the Cuspal StarLord is the one which

shows on the Computer screen.

 

Actually this is a mix of parshari Bhava Chalit and Traditional

astrology of the nakshatras. For want of hard work and efforts, this

method has been lost to the many traditional astrologers but was

actually in force since long. Astrologers(?) these days like to just

pick up ready made results from books and quote without bothering for

deep study, which is why we do not see many of these theories in vogue.

 

Thank you for putting this message across the Group, which proves that

knowledge is endless and nothing is new under this sky on unknown to

Indian astrologers.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

> > , Manoj Chandran

> > chandran_manoj@ wrote:

 

 

Dear Chandu Ji,

 

Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that

has not been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been trying

much, but one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's

principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses. The sthoola

lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord of the

Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this

method each house then has two lords.

 

Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of

2H,7H and 11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see

that Mars is the Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he

also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars

has the ability to give marriage.

 

Regards,

 

Manoj

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Respected G K Goelji,

 

Definitely houses represent physical level.

Many Thanks for your esteemed comments.

 

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

 

, gopal krishna goel

<g.k.goel wrote:

>

>

> Dear Goel ji,

> No doubt as signs are governed by Sun , they represent intellectual

> level , but houses represent physical level

> As nakshatras are ruled by Moon ,They represent emotional level

> Regards,

>

> G. K. Goel

>

>

>

>

>

>

> goyalvj

> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:39:13 +0000

> Re: Chandu's Response to Shri Bhaskar Ji,

Shri Sunil Ji and All

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Manoji,

>

>

>

> Thankyou for putting one more important Iyer's principle.

>

> // It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma lords of houses.

> The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord is the Lord

> of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in this

> method each house then has two lords.//

>

>

> Just my understanding on this principle.

>

>

> `House' in the horoscope basically indicate two sambhands :

>

> 1) Signs

> and 2) Bhava.

>

>

>

> 1) Signs

> : The karak for signs is Sun, as 12 rasis indicate twelve position of sun in a

> single rotation. Sign will indicate the circumstances

> native will face and its lord will show up the application of this Buddi

> (Intelligence), how he applies dharma on that particular circumstances.

>

> This is clearly termed as Sthoola lord by

> Sri Iyer.

>

>

>

> 2) Bhava

> : This means emotions (Chita). Emotion is rules by moon which is infact the

lord

> of Nakshatra. (moon is married to all nakshtras, Rohini is favorite because

> moon stays much longer period there). The emotional experience of the house

can

> be seen from the nakshtra of the lord of house which is used widely or it can

> be shown up the nakshatra of the house (cusps) which is termed as Sookshma

lord by Sri

> Iyer.

>

>

>

>

> This principle is very interesting, logically digestable and thankyou for

showing up its application also.

>

>

> I hope the division of bhava is based on the Ascendant degree + 30 degree and

its multiples.

>

>

> Thankyou for sharing :)

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Vijay Goel

>

> Jaipur.

>

>

> , Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandu Ji,

> >

> > Let me give you yet another reason for marriage in Rahu-Mars that has not

been discussed so far. This is a principle that I have not been trying much, but

one of my teachers likes a lot. It is Iyer's principle of Sthoola and Sookshma

lords of houses. The sthoola lord is the usual Rashi Lord. The Sookshma lord

is the Lord of the Star where the cusp of the particular house falls. So in

this method each house then has two lords.

> >

> > Applying this principle here, we find that the Sookshma Lords of 2H, 7H and

11H are Sun, Mars and Mars, respectively. Hence you can see that Mars is the

Sookshma Lord of both the 7H and 11H and he also disposits Rahu as the Sthoola

Lord of 8H. So clearly Rahu-Mars has the ability to give marriage.

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