Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or moon-sign or from both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. Hope this helps. 2009/9/27 cvs_45 <cvs_45 > > > is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > moon-sign or from both? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. Vandana Mishra--- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said tostart when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2ndhouse from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.Hope this helps.2009/9/27 cvs_45 <cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>>>> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> moon-sign or from both?>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Vandana Ji, Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? Regards, -Manoj Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_91 Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PMRe: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. Vandana Mishra--- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologySunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said tostart when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2ndhouse from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.Hope this helps.2009/9/27 cvs_45 <cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>>>> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> moon-sign or from both?>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear all I have one confusion,regarding sandhi period, I have one case DOB : 22-01-1992 , city Kanpur ( UP) which Time I should take for case studt, becuae I f I take 12:50 PM , lagna rise Aries ( Mesha ) and at 12:55 it tauraous ( Vrishab), so which lagna I have to accept for study and what is shastriya niyam . Regards Dr Mishra --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Received: Monday, September 28, 2009, 12:32 AM Dear Vandana Ji, Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? Regards, -Manoj Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_ 91 > ancient_indian_ astrology Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. Vandana Mishra --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati ancient_indian_ astrology Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. Hope this helps. 2009/9/27 cvs_45 <cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > moon-sign or from both? > > > ________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Take Taurus as Lagna and you will get better results. Forget yama, niyama etc. I talk what My guru has taught me, and it works. At the moment (10.04am)its Libra lagna in jaipur (where I am presently stationed for few days), and venus being Lord of Libra it gives us the clue. This is known as Ruling Planets method. You would be surprised to know that had I checked this after 4 minutes exactly, the Lagna would have been Scorpio and my answer to you would have been Aries. regards/Bhaskar. , Akhil Mishra <astro6301 wrote: > > Dear all > > I have one confusion,regarding sandhi period, I have one case > > DOB : 22-01-1992 , city Kanpur ( UP) > > which Time I should take for case studt, becuae > > I f I take 12:50 PM , lagna rise Aries ( Mesha ) and at 12:55 it tauraous ( Vrishab), so which lagna I have to accept for study and what is shastriya niyam . > > Regards > > > Dr Mishra > > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj wrote: > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj > Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > Received: Monday, September 28, 2009, 12:32 AM > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > Regards, > -Manoj > Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_ 91 > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. > Vandana Mishra > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to > start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd > house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > Hope this helps. > > 2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > > is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > > moon-sign or from both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons natal degrees wrt Shani sadesathi. I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacent signs are conjunct. regards/bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > Regards, > -Manoj > > > > > > ________________________________ > Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_91 > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. > Vandana Mishra > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to > >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd > >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > >Hope this helps. > > > >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > >> > >> > >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > >> moon-sign or from both? > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 This theory of 45 degree orb was advanced by Shri H.N. Katve of Maharashtra which was adopted by Shri K.N. Rao and he must have mentioned this also when he explained Sade Saati. Because he never fails to mention Shri Katve ji. regards, Mouji--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 6:02 AM Dear Vandana Ji, Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? Regards, -Manoj Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_ 91 >ancient_indian_ astrologySunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. Vandana Mishra--- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologySunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said tostart when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2ndhouse from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.Hope this helps.2009/9/27 cvs_45 <cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>>>> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> moon-sign or from both?>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Manoji,//Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct?//The reasoning of +- 45 from moon in sadesati and the principles of conjunction is different.Sri H N katwe and Sri K n Rao when speaking of sadesati they are basically providing the average distance from moon which impact most which comes under house division concept and the karak is sun.When we consider planetary conjunction it comes under nakshatra principle. 1) Planets in same nakshatra in same pada will follow same AIM and will have same direction ( dharma, artha, kama, moksha for four padas respectively).2) Planet in same nakshatra but different pada mean the influence on chita(mind) will be similar but its reactions on mind will generate different aim.3) Planets in different nakshatra but same pada, they these planets will have same aim or direction in life but with different emotional impacts. You will see that all planets in same pada are in trines in navamsha.4) But if planet are in different nakshatra and in different padas that the conjunction will have very less impact jointly and they will show their own behaviour independently.I hope i have able to convey the message.Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Vandana Ji,> > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology?> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_91 > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM> Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings.> Vandana Mishra> > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM> >> >> > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to> >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd> >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.> >Hope this helps.> >> >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >> >>> >>> >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> >> moon-sign or from both?> >>> >> > >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Manoj ji,Astrology is a science , thus we indicate a conflagration as per definition and not inarbitrary manner.When be say that two planet are conjunct in a house or sign this means thatthey are either in same house or sign.When we say a planet is hamming another planet it means that they are in adjacent signs or houses as the case may be.The closeness of two planets is judged by their longitudes.Same terminology is used when considering transits.If some persons uses a expression in a wrong or loose manner ,it can not become a rule.Regards,G. K. Goel From: chandran_manojDate: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:32:57 -0700Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Dear Vandana Ji, Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? Regards, -Manoj Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_91 > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PMRe: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. Vandana Mishra--- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologySunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said tostart when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2ndhouse from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.Hope this helps.2009/9/27 cvs_45 <cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>>>> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> moon-sign or from both?>> > Get easy photo sharing with Windows LiveT Photos. Drag n' drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 The 7 1/2 year period of Saturn from birth and Moon sign willgive different results.Best thing is to adopt Astakvarga method to judge transit results.It will yield to better affects.BPHS says:"If a planet gets more auspicious point in a sign , it will yield to good results during transit in that sign irrespective of its placement either from Moon or Lagna"Regards,G. K. Goel From: cvs_45Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:18:07 +0000 doubt regarding saadhe-saati is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or moon-sign or from both? Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. Drag n’ drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Goel Ji pls see this chart i hav ful faith in its authenticity of BT ( even this chart has some similarity with birth chart of only one dalit woman CM of one of the state of india-moon sign is diffrnt )she was having sani transit in cancer sign where sani has 8 points and total samudaya ashta varga points are 34 and dasa was also sani and i was thinking the finishing sade sati will giv some relief when sani mov to cancer and i was waiting 8 points of sani in Bhinna varga to giv some royal status But sani dasa behaved like the dainya daridra yoga only ( sani in 6th House as 10th and 11th L )even she sold one House against my advice during the prime time in property boom which within 3 months sold for double the price she sold .but lost everything and left for settling some where to hide away frm debtorswas having 2 shops and 2 houses in delhi ( not inherited ) and husband was an engineer in overseas .here is data Natal Chart October 18, 1951Time: 18:10:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 76 E 33' 00", 9 N 16' 00" Mavelikara, IndiaTithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (58.63% left)Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (84.17% left)Yoga: Vyatipata (Ra) (25.58% left)Karana: Bava (Su) (17.25% left)Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Ar)Sunrise: 6:15:20Sunset: 18:02:55this is to show that ashtavarga technics what ever available in books r not reliable esp what ever is known as parasari ( i am not talking against rishi but against the interpolation might hav happened in compendium called BPHS mayb or it is my ignorence to understand it properly )she was minting money in her rahu dasa tho she was not working ( worked for a small period ) but her hubby was in overseas and senting lacs of rs per month rgrds sunil nair , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > The 7 1/2 year period of Saturn from birth and Moon sign will> give different results.> Best thing is to adopt Astakvarga method to judge transit results.> It will yield to better affects.> BPHS says:> "If a planet gets more auspicious point in a sign , it will yield to> good results during transit in that sign irrespective of its placement> either from Moon or Lagna"> Regards,> > G. K. Goel> > > > > > > cvs_45 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:18:07 +0000> doubt regarding saadhe-saati> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or moon-sign or from both?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________> More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™.> http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Respected manojji, to some extent i do agree with you as planets placed in this position has termed as SAMAGAM or about to meet .thus they do exert influence on each other. REGARDS. Vandana mishra--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 4:45 AM Dear Manoj ji,I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons nataldegrees wrt Shani sadesathi.I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacentsigns are conjunct.regards/bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vandana Ji,>> Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacentsigns, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 degAries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are notconsidered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit(that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs),why cant we use the same in Natal astrology?>> Regards,> -Manoj>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91 ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regardingsaadhe-saati>>> An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon betaken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati shoulddeem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitudethat is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then endwhen saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree morethan the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned thistheory many times in his writings.> Vandana Mishra>> --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:>>> >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM> >> >> >> >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it issaid to> >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crossesthe 2nd> >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.> >Hope this helps.> >> >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >> >>> >>> >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> >> moon-sign or from both?> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Bhaskar ji Thanks a lot ,really you are practical person who would like to veryfy his answer with use of different concept. Regards Dr Mishra Toronto .Canada --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Received: Monday, September 28, 2009, 4:41 AM Take Taurus as Lagna and you will get better results. Forget yama, niyama etc. I talk what My guru has taught me, and it works. At the moment (10.04am)its Libra lagna in jaipur (where I am presently stationed for few days), and venus being Lord of Libra it gives us the clue. This is known as Ruling Planets method. You would be surprised to know that had I checked this after 4 minutes exactly, the Lagna would have been Scorpio and my answer to you would have been Aries. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Akhil Mishra <astro6301@. ..> wrote: > > Dear all > > I have one confusion,regarding sandhi period, I have one case > > DOB : 22-01-1992 , city Kanpur ( UP) > > which Time I should take for case studt, becuae > > I f I take 12:50 PM , lagna rise Aries ( Mesha ) and at 12:55 it tauraous ( Vrishab), so which lagna I have to accept for study and what is shastriya niyam . > > Regards > > > Dr Mishra > > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ... wrote: > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ... > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > ancient_indian_ astrology > Received: Monday, September 28, 2009, 12:32 AM > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > Regards, > -Manoj > Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_ 91 > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. > Vandana Mishra > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to > start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd > house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > Hope this helps. > > 2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > > is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > > moon-sign or from both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > ________________ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos./newmail/overview2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Goel ji Really it works and we have to see astakvarga. Regrads Dr Mishra--- On Mon, 9/28/09, gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote: gopal krishna goel <g.k.goelRE: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Received: Monday, September 28, 2009, 4:17 PM The 7 1/2 year period of Saturn from birth and Moon sign willgive different results.Best thing is to adopt Astakvarga method to judge transit results.It will yield to better affects.BPHS says:"If a planet gets more auspicious point in a sign , it will yield to good results during transit in that sign irrespective of its placement either from Moon or Lagna"Regards,G. K. Goel ancient_indian_ astrologycvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.inSun, 27 Sep 2009 17:18:07 +0000[ancient_indian_ astrology] doubt regarding saadhe-saati is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or moon-sign or from both? Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. Drag n’ drop Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Dear Sir, The word Samagam is used when a planet is with Moon (excluding nodes) either in natal chart or transit. For 7 1/2 year cycle , 45 degree orb has a limited use , when youadopt equal house division using Moon's degree as ascendant.The Saturn 's ingress in the adjacent sign provide useful informationin judging over all results of Saturn's transit.Moreover , you will have theadvantage of astakvarga system.Regards,G. K. Goel From: vandana_mishra_91Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:53:05 -0700Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Respected manojji, to some extent i do agree with you as planets placed in this position has termed as SAMAGAM or about to meet .thus they do exert influence on each other. REGARDS. Vandana mishra--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 4:45 AM Dear Manoj ji,I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons nataldegrees wrt Shani sadesathi.I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacentsigns are conjunct.regards/bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vandana Ji,>> Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacentsigns, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 degAries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are notconsidered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit(that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs),why cant we use the same in Natal astrology?>> Regards,> -Manoj>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91 ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regardingsaadhe-saati>>> An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon betaken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati shoulddeem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitudethat is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then endwhen saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree morethan the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned thistheory many times in his writings.> Vandana Mishra>> --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:>>> >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM> >> >> >> >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it issaid to> >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crossesthe 2nd> >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.> >Hope this helps.> >> >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >> >>> >>> >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> >> moon-sign or from both?> >>> >>> >>> >> >> MSN Battles We pitch one stalwart against the other and give you the power. Who will you vote for? Share photos while you chat with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi,In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are within 30* of each other to be conjunct?Regs, Anita--- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Monday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM Dear Manoj ji, I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons natal degrees wrt Shani sadesathi. I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacent signs are conjunct. regards/bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > Regards, > -Manoj > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91 > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. > Vandana Mishra > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to > >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd > >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > >Hope this helps. > > > >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > >> > >> > >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > >> moon-sign or from both? > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hello. Normally astrologers consider orb of 8degrees between 2 planets to state them as conjunct, but I have been taught to consider only 4 degrees orb normallyand add 2 degrees more as per daily speed of the planet. regards/Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Hi, > In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are within 30* of each other to be conjunct? > Regs, Anita > > --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > Monday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons natal > > degrees wrt Shani sadesathi. > > > > I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacent > > signs are conjunct. > > > > regards/bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > > > > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent > > signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg > > Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not > > considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit > > (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), > > why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding > > saadhe-saati > > > > > > > > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be > > taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should > > deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude > > that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end > > when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more > > than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this > > theory many times in his writings. > > > Vandana Mishra > > > > > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > > > >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is > > said to > > > >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses > > the 2nd > > > >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > > > >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > > > >> moon-sign or from both? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail./connectmore > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 No it will not be. A planet would technically be called conjunct when they are within one " bhava " irrespective of the distance between them. If they are in different bhavas and close degree wise, then they cannot be called 'conjunct'. regards, Mouji --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 10:38 AM Hi, In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are within 30* of each other to be conjunct? Regs, Anita --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM Dear Manoj ji, I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons natal degrees wrt Shani sadesathi. I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacent signs are conjunct. regards/bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > Regards, > -Manoj > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91 > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this theory many times in his writings. > Vandana Mishra > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is said to > >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses the 2nd > >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > >Hope this helps. > > > >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > >> > >> > >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > >> moon-sign or from both? > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 THanks bhaskar ji. You leave no room for doubts.Regards,Anita--- On Tue, 29/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 5:24 AM Hello. Normally astrologers consider orb of 8degrees between 2 planets to state them as conjunct, but I have been taught to consider only 4 degrees orb normallyand add 2 degrees more as per daily speed of the planet. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, > In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are within 30* of each other to be conjunct? > Regs, Anita > > --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > > > I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons natal > > degrees wrt Shani sadesathi. > > > > I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacent > > signs are conjunct. > > > > regards/bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > > > > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent > > signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg > > Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not > > considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit > > (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), > > why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding > > saadhe-saati > > > > > > > > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be > > taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should > > deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude > > that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end > > when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more > > than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this > > theory many times in his writings. > > > Vandana Mishra > > > > > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > > > >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is > > said to > > > >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses > > the 2nd > > > >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > > > >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > > > >> moon-sign or from both? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview. mail.. com/connectmore > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Respected maujiji, technically you cannot say conjunt,agree but dont they influence the prospetive house where they are suppose to enter in little while.don't they exert any impact over the next house..Isuppose that is what manojji,keen to know. Regards. VANDNA MISHRA--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:13 AM No it will not be. A planet would technically be called conjunct when they are within one "bhava" irrespective of the distance between them. If they are in different bhavas and close degree wise, then they cannot be called 'conjunct'. regards, Mouji--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote:Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, September 29, 2009, 10:38 AMHi,In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are within 30* of each other to be conjunct?Regs, Anita--- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM Dear Manoj ji,I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons nataldegrees wrt Shani sadesathi.I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacentsigns are conjunct.regards/bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vandana Ji,>> Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacentsigns, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 degAries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are notconsidered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit(that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs),why cant we use the same in Natal astrology?>> Regards,> -Manoj>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91 ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regardingsaadhe-saati>>> An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon betaken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati shoulddeem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitudethat is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then endwhen saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree morethan the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned thistheory many times in his writings.> Vandana Mishra>> --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:>>> >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM> >> >> >> >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it issaid to> >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crossesthe 2nd> >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.> >Hope this helps.> >> >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >> >>> >>> >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> >> moon-sign or from both?> >>> >>> >>> >> >>Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 They are considered to be conjunct because there are no cement or Steel partitions in the sky between the 12 Raashis. Except that Yogas may not work in conjunctions of two planets in two Raashis- for ex. Budhi aditya Yoga. regards/Bhaskar. , Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_91 wrote: > > Respected maujiji, > technically you cannot say conjunt,agree but dont they influence the prospetive house where they are suppose to enter in little while.don't they exert any impact over the next house..Isuppose that is what manojji,keen to know. > Regards. > VANDNA MISHRA > > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Manoj Kumar mouji99 wrote: > > > Manoj Kumar mouji99 > Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:13 AM No it will not be. A planet would technically be called conjunct when they are within one " bhava " irrespective of the distance between them. If they are in different bhavas and close degree wise, then they cannot be called 'conjunct'. > > regards, > > Mouji > > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Anita R ash.rsh55 > wrote: > > Anita R ash.rsh55 > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 10:38 AM > > Hi, > In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are within 30* of each other to be conjunct? > Regs, Anita > > --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM > > > > Dear Manoj ji, > > I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons natal > degrees wrt Shani sadesathi. > > I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacent > signs are conjunct. > > regards/bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Vandana Ji, > > > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent > signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 deg > Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not > considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit > (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs), > why cant we use the same in Natal astrology? > > > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding > saadhe-saati > > > > > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon be > taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should > deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude > that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then end > when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree more > than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this > theory many times in his writings. > > Vandana Mishra > > > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > > >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is > said to > > >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses > the 2nd > > >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity. > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or > > >> moon-sign or from both? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Are we discussing natal astrology or horary. If horary, yes then the prediction would be based on prospective entry into the next house but not in natal. regards, Mouji--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_91 wrote: Vandna Misra <vandana_mishra_91Re: Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 12:48 PM Respected maujiji, technically you cannot say conjunt,agree but dont they influence the prospetive house where they are suppose to enter in little while.don't they exert any impact over the next house..Isuppose that is what manojji,keen to know. Regards. VANDNA MISHRA--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote: Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:13 AM No it will not be. A planet would technically be called conjunct when they are within one "bhava" irrespective of the distance between them. If they are in different bhavas and close degree wise, then they cannot be called 'conjunct'. regards, Mouji--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote:Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, September 29, 2009, 10:38 AMHi,In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are within 30* of each other to be conjunct?Regs, Anita--- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saatiancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM Dear Manoj ji,I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons nataldegrees wrt Shani sadesathi.I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacentsigns are conjunct.regards/bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vandana Ji,>> Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacentsigns, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29 degAries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are notconsidered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit(that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3 signs),why cant we use the same in Natal astrology?>> Regards,> -Manoj>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91 ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regardingsaadhe-saati>>> An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon betaken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati shoulddeem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitudethat is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then endwhen saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree morethan the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned thistheory many times in his writings.> Vandana Mishra>> --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:>>> >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM> >> >> >> >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it issaid to> >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crossesthe 2nd> >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.> >Hope this helps.> >> >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> >> >>> >>> >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign or> >> moon-sign or from both?> >>> >>> >>> >> >>Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 All interested members may please check this out - Date of birth, 16th December 2009 TOB 15.40 Place of Birth, jaipur. The child is yet to be born on above date. In the chart of this yet to be born Child. The Moon is in 29 degrees Scorpio The Sun is in 0.41 degrees Sagittarius Would we in our right senses deny the above Conjunction thereby denying amavasya Birth to the Child ? Would one not write Birth on Amavasya in his janma Kundli ? In my earlier mail I had mentioned about Yogas not working. Here too common sense has to be used, and I will not go in details. For ex. Budhi aditya may not work, but Guru Chandal Yoga may work. regards, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > They are considered to be conjunct because there are no cement or Steel> partitions in the sky between the 12 Raashis. Except that Yogas may not> work in conjunctions of two planets in two Raashis- for ex. Budhi aditya> Yoga.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > , Vandna Misra> vandana_mishra_91@ wrote:> >> > Respected maujiji,> > technically you cannot say conjunt,agree but dont they influence the> prospetive house where they are suppose to enter in little while.don't> they exert any impact over the next house..Isuppose that is what> manojji,keen to know.> > Regards.> > VANDNA MISHRA> >> > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ wrote:> >> >> > Manoj Kumar mouji99@> > Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> > > > Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 6:13 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> > No it will not be. A planet would technically be called conjunct when> they are within one "bhava" irrespective of the distance between them.> If they are in different bhavas and close degree wise, then they cannot> be called 'conjunct'.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji> >> > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Anita R ash.rsh55 > wrote:> >> > Anita R ash.rsh55 >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding> saadhe-saati> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 10:38 AM> >> > Hi,> > In this case, would it would be safe to consider any planets which are> within 30* of each other to be conjunct?> > Regs, Anita> >> > --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> >> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding saadhe-saati> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, 28 September, 2009, 4:45 AM> >> >> >> > Dear Manoj ji,> >> > I agree with Vandana ji's dispersal of 45degrees orb to the Moons> natal> > degrees wrt Shani sadesathi.> >> > I also agree when you say two planets close to each other in adjacent> > signs are conjunct.> >> > regards/bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vandana Ji,> > >> > > Then in the same manner, why cannot we consider planets in adjacent> > signs, close to each other, as conjunct? For example, Planet A at 29> deg> > Aries. Planet B at 1 degree Taurus. As per Rashi chart, they are not> > considered conjunct. But if we are going to use that theory in transit> > (that is if we are going to consider 180 degree Orb instead of 3> signs),> > why cant we use the same in Natal astrology?> > >> > > Regards,> > > -Manoj> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:35:53 PM> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding> > saadhe-saati> > >> > >> > > An astute astrologer,Shri Katwe suggested the longitude of the moon> be> > taken as the midpoint of the SADESAATI,and that the sadesaati should> > deem to have commenced when saturn, in transit arrives at a longitude> > that is 45 degree less than the longitude of the moon.it would then> end> > when saturn in transit would cross the longitude that is 45 degree> more> > than the longitude of the moon.Shri K.N. Rao SIR has mentioned this> > theory many times in his writings.> > > Vandana Mishra> > >> > > --- On Sun, 9/27/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > >> > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: doubt regarding> saadhe-saati> > > >ancient_indian_ astrology> > > >Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:25 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Very simply it is the transit of Saturn over natal moon and it is> > said to> > > >start when Saturn is in 12th from moon and ends when Saturn crosses> > the 2nd> > > >house from moon, the 7 and a half years in 3 signs for a nativity.> > > >Hope this helps.> > > >> > > >2009/9/27 cvs_45 cvs_45 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> is the 7 1/2 period of saturn to be reckoned from the birth-sign> or> > > >> moon-sign or from both?> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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