Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.

September 28, 2009

Namaste Sunil Ji,

Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.

Please see below details. This chart has bothâ€ Pravarja yoga' and â€œGajakesari yoga"

Pravarja yoga â€“ Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)

Gajakesari yoga â€“ Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

Time :1:55:00 PM

Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17â€™ 00â€ , 9 N 59â€™ 00â€)

Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life?

Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.

Regards,

Sudhir

Namashivaya

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50 Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

dear punit Pandey ji Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna

represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted

is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual ) .Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results ) rgrds sunil nair PS-I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

Can one get better than this? So from the traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing the whole chart.

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only through the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of events which are difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

Regards

Adith

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to

12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.comSaturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PMRe: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking. This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50@gro ups.comFriday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

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Best regards

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September 28, 2009

Dear all

Relevance to this topic ,this chart has also got " Pravrajya yoga " but

what happens when all planets constituting this yoga is combust and

dispositor for all the planets involved

in this yoga is in dusthana ? The pravrajya yoga is in 9th house. 9th

house is good house . but 9L is in a dustana ..but what will be its

significations in real life ..This chart also has kal sarpa yoga .so how

does two contridictary yogas manifest in real life ?

Date of birth: 11 feb 1986 (Male)

Time :16:07:00 PM

Place: (75 E 22â€™ 00â€ , 11 N 52â€™ 00â€)

Sudhir Menon wrote:

>

> Namaste Sunil Ji,

> Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict

> with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions

> goes wrong and many blame astrology.

>

> Please see below details. This chart has bothâ€ Pravarja yoga' and

> â€œGajakesari yoga "

>

> Pravarja yoga â€“ Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4

> planets)

> Gajakesari yoga â€“ Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

>

> Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

> Time :1:55:00 PM

> Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17â€™ 00â€ , 9 N 59â€™ 00â€)

>

> Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been

> in this person's real life?

>

> Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group

> can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its

> effectiveness in real life.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sudhir

>

> Namashivaya

>

> --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala

> Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW

> 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

>

> Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

>

> --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> wrote:

>

> Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR

> 18N59 75E50

> @gro ups.com

> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

>

> dear punit Pandey ji

>

> Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

>

> Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving

> into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with

> unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart

>

> see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or

> more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of

> yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna

> represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya

> parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga

> happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along

> marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and

> labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction

> between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8

> deal abt the chart

>

> Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise

> and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology )

> the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu

> ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in

> supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha

>

> even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the

> retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r

> hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b

> afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting

> jup )

>

> Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and

> afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese

> in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b

> pronounced ( like spiritual ) .

>

> Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b

> a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence

> ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24

> he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life

> he got best dasa ??

>

> also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even

> according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then

> ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon

> is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving

> results )

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> PS-

>

> I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some

> memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so

> any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further

> answering / discussing .

>

> --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM

> BIR 18N59 75E50

> @gro ups.com

> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

>

> Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

>

> Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that

> principles of KP are more useful in this case than the

> principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from

> traditional astrology perspective -

>

> 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

> 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people

> who are not from tradional astrology background, I would

> like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very

> important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there

> in this chart)

> 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

> 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being

> kendra and kona lord respectively

> 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and

> kona lord respectively.

> 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

>

> Can one get better than this? So from the traditional

> astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at

> least at the surface level).

>

> If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see

> that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd,

> the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house

> being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to

> traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th

> house and 9th house any good from financial perspective.

> 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession.

> 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for

> finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is

> in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12

> are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get

> mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

>

> 9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st

> is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder,

> Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu

> killing the whole chart.

>

> This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9.

> In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi

> sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k

> <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

>

> Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

>

> As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general

> details are very well denoted only through the

> traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the

> events forecast , timing of events which are

> difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we

> have both the knowledge will be more useful for which

> we have to read lot and practice.

>

> We can follow the good points about the importance of

> the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions,

> Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc

> will definitely enrich our knowledge.

>

> As I was not much confident with the knowledege in

> this subject, I did not participate.

>

> But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

>

> Regards

> Adith

>

> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra

> <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

>

> Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth

> chart of this person there seems unstable source

> of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde

> Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in

> 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable

> earning.This person had tried many times to earn

> huge money by way of business but could not do

> so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of

> earning had been writing and speaking.He should

> have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn-

> Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His

> father should have died during 07.04.1990 to

> 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money

> during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done

> religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and

> again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999

> to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from

> 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to

> 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing

> books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during

> Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious

> deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and

> sisters may have died during this period.On the

> whole at present he should be facing great hard

> ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With

> regards,

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

>

> --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya

> <bokaariya > wrote:

>

> rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

> 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> @gro ups.com

> Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

>

> dhirendraji

> personality is not important..

> What does this person do...u can say business

> income and behaviour earnings from ??

> physically mentally financially ....comments

> rajiv

>

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> Dhirendra Nath Misra

> <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com

> <http://ymail.com/>>

> @gro ups.com <http://ups.com/>

>

> Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM

> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

> 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

>

> Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this

> person is as following-This person is

> courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e

> about time,interested in scientific and

> technical work,blessed with good brain &

> wealth.This person must have knowledge of

> astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having

> big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant

> big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and

> wide fore head.This person may be

> Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source

> of earning should be writing and

> speaking. This person must have many

> brothers.This person may suffer from

> acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

>

> --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya

> <bokaariya > wrote:

>

> rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

> QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

> 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> @gro ups.com

> <http://ups.com/>

> Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

>

> COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

>

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> <http://gmail.com/>>

> @gro ups.com

> <http://ups.com/>

> Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM

> Quiz

>

> Dear list

>

> I am looking forward to somebody posting

> quiz like Rajiv ji.

>

> Best regards

> Sudhir

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September 28, 2009

Dear sudhir Menon Ji Thanks for the post I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am busy other wise .so my reading wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct (means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting it )All prvarjya need not make a nativ a sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved .this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations .the dasa frm birth is not that good it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some controvery or disparity etc ) If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for nativ even for good causes Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etc while nativ passes middle age .Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods in one way or other rest of the discussion after u giv feed back this is a quick reading rgrds sunil nair , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote:>> Namaste Sunil Ji,> Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.> Â > Please see below details. This chart has bothâ€ Pravarja yoga' and â€œGajakesari yoga"> Â > Pravarja yoga â€" Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)> Gajakesari yoga â€" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.> Â > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)> Time :1:55:00 PM> Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17â€™ 00â€ , 9 N 59â€™ 00â€)> Â > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life? Â > Â > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.> Â > Regards,> Sudhir> Â > Namashivaya> > Â > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM> > > Â > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:> > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM> > > > > > > > dear punit Pandey ji > > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms > > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÂ dasa s to see the promise in chart > > Â see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )Â along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart > > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÂ ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÂ krishna paksha > > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) > > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and itÂ wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Â .> > ThenÂ see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÂ ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results ) > > rgrds sunil nair > > PS-> > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion againstÂ traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> > > Â > > > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> Â > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> Â > 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted> 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)> 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively> 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively. > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona. > Â > Can one get better than this? So from theÂ traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level). > Â > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> Â > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÂ in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing theÂ whole chart. > Â > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari. > Â > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > Â > > > > > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> Â > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> Â > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only throughÂ the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of eventsÂ which are difficultÂ to ascertain with the other systems.Â If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice. > Â > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> Â > As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.> Â > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> Â > Regards> Adith> > > > Â > Â > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:> > > Â > > > > > > > > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has> been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,> > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > Â > > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > @gro ups.com> Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> > > Â > > > > > dhirendraji> personality is not important..> What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??> physically mentally financially ....comments> rajiv> > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> @gro ups.com > > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > Â > > > > > > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.Â This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> > Dhirendra Nath Misra> Â > > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> > > Â > > > > COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÂ > > > > > > > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com> Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> Quiz> > Â > > ï»¿ > Dear list> Â > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> Â > Best regards> Sudhir > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. > > > > > > Try the new India Homepage. > > > > > > > > > Try the new India Homepage. > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now!>

September 28, 2009

Namaste Sunil Ji,

Thanks for a quick response.Please see below my inputs,hope the below data will help you for further analysis.

//here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job //

True. He has been working till now in various companies and has changed jobs many times. (This person is an engineering graduate at present working in an MNC)

//the dasa frm birth is not that good it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario //

Yes. Sani Mahadasa is nearing the end (2nd Dec 2009)and Mecury dasa will start. As you mentioned by this time this person would have crossed his middle age. What are the good results in professional scenario? Is it because Mercury dasa (his lagna lord dasa) is starting and lagna lord is in 10th house along with Sun and Venus). Will he change the present job?

//there is possibility of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids //

True. His wife had one abortion and has a female kid.

Married in April 1998. Female kid was born in Dec 2001.

//If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible//

Is it some business? he has not done any business till now in his life.

//Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign//

This person worked abroad with his family for one year during sani dasa (May 2006 to May 2007) and then came back to India.

Many thanks..

Regards,

Sudhir

Namashivaya

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life. Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:11 AM

Dear sudhir Menon Ji Thanks for the post I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am busy other wise .so my reading wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct (means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting it )All prvarjya need not make a nativ a sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved

..this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations .the dasa frm birth is not that good it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some controvery or disparity etc ) If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for nativ even for good causes Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etc

while nativ passes middle age .Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods in one way or other rest of the discussion after u giv feed back this is a quick reading rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:>> Namaste Sunil Ji,> Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.> Ã‚ > Please see below details. This chart has bothÃ¢â‚¬ï¿½ Pravarja yoga' and Ã¢â‚¬Å“Gajakesari yoga"> Ã‚ > Pravarja yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Sun+ Mars+

Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)> Gajakesari yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.> Ã‚ > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)> Time :1:55:00 PM> Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½ , 9 N 59Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½)> Ã‚ > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life? Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.> Ã‚ > Regards,> Sudhir> Ã‚ > Namashivaya> > Ã‚ > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59

75E50> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:> > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM> > > > > > > > dear punit Pandey ji > > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms > > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÃ‚ dasa s to see the promise in chart > > Ã‚ see the

parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )Ã‚ along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart > > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÃ‚ ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÃ‚ krishna paksha > > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of

plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) > > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and itÃ‚ wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Ã‚ .> > ThenÃ‚ see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÃ‚ ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is

giving results ) > > rgrds sunil nair > > PS-> > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion againstÃ‚ traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> Ã‚ > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> Ã‚ > 1.

Lagna lord Sun is exalted> 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)> 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively> 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively. > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona. > Ã‚ > Can one get better than this? So from theÃ‚ traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level). > Ã‚ > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house

being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> Ã‚ > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÃ‚ in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing theÃ‚ whole chart. > Ã‚ > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari. > Ã‚ > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit

Pandey> > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > Ã‚ > > > > > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> Ã‚ > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> Ã‚ > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only throughÃ‚ the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of eventsÃ‚ which are difficultÃ‚ to ascertain with the other systems.Ã‚ If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice. > Ã‚ > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> Ã‚ > As I was not

much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.> Ã‚ > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> Ã‚ > Regards> Adith> > > > Ã‚ > Ã‚ > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:> > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn-

Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has> been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,> > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > Ã‚ > > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > @gro ups.com> Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > > > dhirendraji> personality is not important..> What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??> physically mentally financially ....comments> rajiv> > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> @gro ups.com > > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > Ã‚ > > > > > > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s

person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.Ã‚ This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> > Dhirendra Nath Misra> Ã‚ > > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> > > Ã‚ > > >

> COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÃ‚ > > > > > > > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com> Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> Quiz> > Ã‚ > > Ã¯Â»Â¿ > Dear list> Ã‚ > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> Ã‚ > Best regards> Sudhir > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. > > > > > > Try the new India Homepage. > > > > > > > > > Try the new India Homepage. > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try

now!>

September 28, 2009

Dear Deepak,

Forget this Yoga for next 30 years.

The whole chart is full of material and professional achievements but

native will be detached from home or have less of domestic happiness.

lots of trials and tribulations, heart breaks in this chart alongwith

upheavals in life, go side by side with material affluence.

regards/Bhaskar.

, deepak <deepakt

wrote:

>

> Dear all

>

> Relevance to this topic ,this chart has also got " Pravrajya yoga " but

> what happens when all planets constituting this yoga is combust and

> dispositor for all the planets involved

> in this yoga is in dusthana ? The pravrajya yoga is in 9th house. 9th

> house is good house . but 9L is in a dustana ..but what will be its

> significations in real life ..This chart also has kal sarpa yoga .so

how

> does two contridictary yogas manifest in real life ?

>

> Date of birth: 11 feb 1986 (Male)

> Time :16:07:00 PM

> Place: (75 E 22â€™ 00â€ , 11 N 52â€™ 00â€)

>

> Sudhir Menon wrote:

>

> >

> > Namaste Sunil Ji,

> > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict

> > with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions

> > goes wrong and many blame astrology.

> >

> > Please see below details. This chart has bothâ€ Pravarja yoga'

and

> > â€œGajakesari yoga "

> >

> > Pravarja yoga â€ " Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th

House (4

> > planets)

> > Gajakesari yoga â€ " Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

> >

> > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

> > Time :1:55:00 PM

> > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17â€™ 00â€ , 9 N 59â€™

00â€)

> >

> > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have

been

> > in this person's real life?

> >

> > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group

> > can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its

> > effectiveness in real life.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sudhir

> >

> > Namashivaya

> >

> > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala

> > Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW

> > 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> >

> > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

> >

> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> > wrote:

> >

> > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR

> > 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

> >

> > dear punit Pandey ji

> >

> > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

> >

> > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving

> > into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with

> > unfolding dasa s to see the promise in chart

> >

> > see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or

> > more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of

> > yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna

> > represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya

> > parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga

> > happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along

> > marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and

> > labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction

> > between day and nite ) along with dasa s u can work a gr8

> > deal abt the chart

> >

> > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise

> > and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrology )

> > the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu

> > ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in

> > supporting Horoscopes and Born in krishna paksha

> >

> > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the

> > retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r

> > hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b

> > afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting

> > jup )

> >

> > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and

> > afflictions etc is important and it wil giv a strong decrese

> > in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b

> > pronounced ( like spiritual ) .

> >

> > Then see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b

> > a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence

> > ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24

> > he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life

> > he got best dasa ??

> >

> > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even

> > according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then

> > ketu ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon

> > is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving

> > results )

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > PS-

> >

> > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some

> > memebrs has deep aversion against traditional astrology ,so

> > any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further

> > answering / discussing .

> >

> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> >

> > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM

> > BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

> >

> > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

> >

> > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that

> > principles of KP are more useful in this case than the

> > principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from

> > traditional astrology perspective -

> >

> > 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

> > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people

> > who are not from tradional astrology background, I would

> > like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very

> > important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there

> > in this chart)

> > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

> > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being

> > kendra and kona lord respectively

> > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and

> > kona lord respectively.

> > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

> >

> > Can one get better than this? So from the traditional

> > astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at

> > least at the surface level).

> >

> > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see

> > that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd,

> > the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house

> > being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to

> > traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th

> > house and 9th house any good from financial perspective.

> > 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession.

> > 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for

> > finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is

> > in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12

> > are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get

> > mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

> >

> > 9th and 12th lord Jupiter in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st

> > is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder,

> > Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu

> > killing the whole chart.

> >

> > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9.

> > In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi

> > sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k

> > <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

> >

> > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

> >

> > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general

> > details are very well denoted only through the

> > traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the

> > events forecast , timing of events which are

> > difficult to ascertain with the other systems. If we

> > have both the knowledge will be more useful for which

> > we have to read lot and practice.

> >

> > We can follow the good points about the importance of

> > the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions,

> > Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc

> > will definitely enrich our knowledge.

> >

> > As I was not much confident with the knowledege in

> > this subject, I did not participate.

> >

> > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

> >

> > Regards

> > Adith

> >

> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth

> > chart of this person there seems unstable source

> > of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde

> > Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in

> > 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable

> > earning.This person had tried many times to earn

> > huge money by way of business but could not do

> > so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of

> > earning had been writing and speaking.He should

> > have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn-

> > Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His

> > father should have died during 07.04.1990 to

> > 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money

> > during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done

> > religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and

> > again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999

> > to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from

> > 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to

> > 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing

> > books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during

> > Mercury- Mars -he has been performing religious

> > deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and

> > sisters may have died during this period.On the

> > whole at present he should be facing great hard

> > ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With

> > regards,

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> >

> > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya

> > bokaariya > wrote:

> >

> > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

> > 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

> >

> > dhirendraji

> > personality is not important..

> > What does this person do...u can say business

> > income and behaviour earnings from ??

> > physically mentally financially ....comments

> > rajiv

> >

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> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com

> > <http://ymail.com/>>

> > @gro ups.com <http://ups.com/>

> >

> > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

> > 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> >

> > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this

> > person is as following-This person is

> > courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e

> > about time,interested in scientific and

> > technical work,blessed with good brain &

> > wealth.This person must have knowledge of

> > astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having

> > big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant

> > big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and

> > wide fore head.This person may be

> > Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source

> > of earning should be writing and

> > speaking. This person must have many

> > brothers.This person may suffer from

> > acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> >

> > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya

> > bokaariya > wrote:

> >

> > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >

> > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

> > 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > <http://ups.com/>

> > Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

> >

> > COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITY

> >

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> > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com

> > <http://gmail.com/>>

> > @gro ups.com

> > <http://ups.com/>

> > Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM

> > Quiz

> >

> > Dear list

> >

> > I am looking forward to somebody posting

> > quiz like Rajiv ji.

> >

> > Best regards

> > Sudhir

> >

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September 28, 2009

Dear Sudhir ji,As his marriage survived in major period of Saturn ,it clearly indicates thatSagittarius Lagna is rising in Navamsa chart with Atmakarka Saturn in 9H.Further,in D-9 ,Ketu,Rahu and Jupiter are Bhavottama And Moon and Saturn arein Vargottama.In D-10 Chart, Mercury is placed in 8H , his job situation will further detoriate.In 10H ,all the four planets are in Mirgshira and Mars is combust, this does not also conducive to profession.He should feed blind persons.(His birth time may be 13.52 instead of 13.55)Regards.G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 From: sudhirmenonDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:48:33 -0700Re: Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life. Namaste Sunil Ji,Thanks for a quick response.Please see below my inputs,hope the below data will help you for further analysis. //here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job //True. He has been working till now in various companies and has changed jobs many times. (This person is an engineering graduate at present working in an MNC) //the dasa frm birth is not that good it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario //Yes. Sani Mahadasa is nearing the end (2nd Dec 2009)and Mecury dasa will start. As you mentioned by this time this person would have crossed his middle age. What are the good results in professional scenario? Is it because Mercury dasa (his lagna lord dasa) is starting and lagna lord is in 10th house along with Sun and Venus). Will he change the present job? //there is possibility of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids //True. His wife had one abortion and has a female kid. Married in April 1998. Female kid was born in Dec 2001. //If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible//Is it some business? he has not done any business till now in his life. //Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign//This person worked abroad with his family for one year during sani dasa (May 2006 to May 2007) and then came back to India. Many thanks.. Regards,SudhirNamashivaya--- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life. Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:11 AM Dear sudhir Menon Ji Thanks for the post I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am busy other wise .so my reading wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct (means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting it )All prvarjya need not make a nativ a sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved.this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations .the dasa frm birth is not that good it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some controvery or disparity etc ) If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for nativ even for good causes Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etcwhile nativ passes middle age .Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods in one way or other rest of the discussion after u giv feed back this is a quick reading rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:>> Namaste Sunil Ji,> Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.> Ã‚ > Please see below details. This chart has bothÃ¢â‚¬ï¿½ Pravarja yoga' and Ã¢â‚¬Å“Gajakesari yoga"> Ã‚ > Pravarja yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Sun+ Mars+Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)> Gajakesari yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.> Ã‚ > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)> Time :1:55:00 PM> Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½ , 9 N 59Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½)> Ã‚ > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life? Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.> Ã‚ > Regards,> Sudhir> Ã‚ > Namashivaya> > Ã‚ > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N5975E50> ancient_indian_ astrology> Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:> > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM> > > > > > > > dear punit Pandey ji > > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms > > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÃ‚ dasa s to see the promise in chart > > Ã‚ see theparivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )Ã‚ along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart > > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÃ‚ ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÃ‚ krishna paksha > > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack ofplaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) > > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and itÃ‚ wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Ã‚ .> > ThenÃ‚ see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÃ‚ ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun isgiving results ) > > rgrds sunil nair > > PS-> > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion againstÃ‚ traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> Ã‚ > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> Ã‚ > 1.Lagna lord Sun is exalted> 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)> 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively> 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively. > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona. > Ã‚ > Can one get better than this? So from theÃ‚ traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level). > Ã‚ > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th housebeing lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> Ã‚ > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÃ‚ in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing theÃ‚ whole chart. > Ã‚ > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari. > Ã‚ > Thanks & Regards,> > PunitPandey> > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > Ã‚ > > > > > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> Ã‚ > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> Ã‚ > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only throughÃ‚ the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of eventsÃ‚ which are difficultÃ‚ to ascertain with the other systems.Ã‚ If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice. > Ã‚ > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> Ã‚ > As I was notmuch confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.> Ã‚ > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> Ã‚ > Regards> Adith> > > > Ã‚ > Ã‚ > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:> > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn-Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has> been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,> > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > Ã‚ > > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> >Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > @gro ups.com> Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> > > Ã‚ > > > > > dhirendraji> personality is not important..> What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??> physically mentally financially ....comments> rajiv> > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> @gro ups.com > > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > Ã‚ > > > > > > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou sperson,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.Ã‚ This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> > Dhirendra Nath Misra> Ã‚ > > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> @gro ups.com> Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> > > Ã‚ > > >> COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÃ‚ > > > > > > > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com> Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> Quiz> > Ã‚ > > Ã¯Â»Â¿ > Dear list> Ã‚ > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> Ã‚ > Best regards> Sudhir > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. 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September 28, 2009

Dear goel Ji pls go slow ,u r not using ur vast Knowledge .where on earth we hav sag navamsa in kanya sign as the nativ is Kanya Born lagna .If it is a typo then sorry ,r u talking abt karkata navamsa ??i do agree with ur reading otherwise .rgrds sunil nair , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > Dear Sudhir ji,

> As his marriage survived in major period of Saturn ,it clearly indicates that

> Sagittarius Lagna is rising in Navamsa chart with Atmakarka Saturn in 9H.

> Further,in D-9 ,Ketu,Rahu and Jupiter are Bhavottama And Moon and Saturn are

> in Vargottama.

> In D-10 Chart, Mercury is placed in 8H , his job situation will further detoriate.

> In 10H ,all the four planets are in Mirgshira and Mars is combust, this does not > also conducive to profession.

> He should feed blind persons.(His birth time may be 13.52 instead of 13.55)

> Regards.

> > G. K. Goel

> > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

> > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > mobile: 09350311433

> > > > >

> sudhirmenon

> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:48:33 -0700

> Re: Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sunil Ji,

> Thanks for a quick response.Please see below my inputs,hope the below data will help you for further analysis.

> > //here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job //

> True. He has been working till now in various companies and has changed jobs many times. (This person is an engineering graduate at present working in an MNC)

> > > //the dasa frm birth is not that good > > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario //

> Yes. Sani Mahadasa is nearing the end (2nd Dec 2009)and Mecury dasa will start. As you mentioned by this time this person would have crossed his middle age. What are the good results in professional scenario? Is it because Mercury dasa (his lagna lord dasa) is starting and lagna lord is in 10th house along with Sun and Venus). Will he change the present job?

> > //there is possibility of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids //

> True. His wife had one abortion and has a female kid. > Married in April 1998. Female kid was born in Dec 2001.

> > //If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible//

> Is it some business? he has not done any business till now in his life.

> > //Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign//

> This person worked abroad with his family for one year during sani dasa (May 2006 to May 2007) and then came back to India. > > Many thanks..

> > Regards,

> Sudhir

> Namashivaya

> > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala

> Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:11 AM

> > > > > > Dear sudhir Menon Ji > > Thanks for the post > > I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am busy other wise .

> > so my reading wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct (means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting it )

> > All prvarjya need not make a nativ a sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying > > if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .

> > here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job > > Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved

> .

> > this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations .

> > the dasa frm birth is not that good > > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario > > there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids > > there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some controvery or disparity etc ) > > If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible > > i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for nativ even for good causes > > Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etc

> while nativ passes middle age .

> > Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign > > if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods in one way or other > > rest of the discussion after u giv feed back > > this is a quick reading > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sunil Ji,

> > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.

> > Ã‚ > > Please see below details. This chart has bothÃ¢â‚¬ï¿½ Pravarja yoga' and Ã¢â‚¬Å"Gajakesari yoga"

> > Ã‚ > > Pravarja yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Sun+ Mars+

> Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)

> > Gajakesari yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

> > Ã‚ > > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

> > Time :1:55:00 PM

> > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½ , 9 N 59Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½)

> > Ã‚ > > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life? Ã‚ > > Ã‚ > > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.

> > Ã‚ > > Regards,

> > Sudhir

> > Ã‚ > > Namashivaya

> > > > Ã‚ > > > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:

> > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59

> 75E50

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

> > > > > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

> > > > > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear punit Pandey ji > > > > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms > > > > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÃ‚ dasa s to see the promise in chart > > > > Ã‚ see the

> parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )Ã‚ along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart > > > > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÃ‚ ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÃ‚ krishna paksha > > > > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of

> plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) > > > > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and itÃ‚ wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Ã‚ .

> > > > ThenÃ‚ see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??

> > > > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÃ‚ ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is

> giving results ) > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > PS-

> > > > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion againstÃ‚ traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

> > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> > > > > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

> > > > > > Ã‚ > > > > > > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

> > Ã‚ > > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -

> > Ã‚ > > 1.

> Lagna lord Sun is exalted

> > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)

> > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

> > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively

> > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively. > > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona. > > Ã‚ > > Can one get better than this? So from theÃ‚ traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level). > > Ã‚ > > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house

> being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.

> > Ã‚ > > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÃ‚ in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing theÃ‚ whole chart. > > Ã‚ > > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari. > > Ã‚ > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Punit

> Pandey

> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

> > Ã‚ > > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

> > Ã‚ > > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only throughÃ‚ the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of eventsÃ‚ which are difficultÃ‚ to ascertain with the other systems.Ã‚ If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice. > > Ã‚ > > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.

> > Ã‚ > > As I was not

> much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

> > Ã‚ > > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

> > Ã‚ > > Regards

> > Adith

> > > > > > > > Ã‚ > > Ã‚ > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn-

> Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has

> > been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > Ã‚ > > > > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:

> > > > > > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >

> > > >

> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

> > > > > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > > > dhirendraji

> > personality is not important..

> > What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??

> > physically mentally financially ....comments

> > rajiv

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

> > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > > > > > Ã‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s

> person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.Ã‚ This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Ã‚ > > > > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:

> > > > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >

> > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

> > > > > > Ã‚ > > > > > >

> > > COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>

> > @gro ups.com

> > Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM

> > Quiz

> > > > Ã‚ > > > > Ã¯Â»Â¿ > > Dear list

> > Ã‚ > > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.

> > Ã‚ > > Best regards

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September 28, 2009

Dear sudhir Ji Thanks for ur response sorry there is some discrepancy happened in typing .when i asked u to see lagna frm moon general frutification and maturity age strt frm 30-32 .but i typed middle age and u take it as yet to happen it again u hav not givn feed back abt the family status of wife and srrounding of marriage happened also where this nativ livs at present ( here also i typed birth country where i shud hav used birth place )when he came to new place frm his birth place ??or when he shifted frm there ??again Like goel ji said merc dasa is not strong But it is with 9th L and in one of the best kendra and its lord and lagna Lord so i am thinking a shift is going to happen in merc Dasa and he may take up diffrnt professions like advising or consultancy or own project ( depend s on his knowledge ) it will b a sort of free lance nature i think but doing a business in traditional sense is not recommnted ,even any kind of partnership is best to avoid it rgrds sunil nair , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote:>> Namaste Sunil Ji,> Thanks for a quick response.Please see below my inputs,hope the below data will help you for further analysis.> Â > //here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job //> True.Â He has been working till now in various companies and has changed jobs many times. (This person is an engineering graduate at present working in an MNC)> Â > //the dasa frm birth is not that good > > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic)Â and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario //> Yes. SaniÂ Mahadasa is nearing the end (2nd Dec 2009)and Mecury dasa will start. As you mentioned by this time this person would have crossed his middle age. What are the good results in professional scenario? Is it because Mercury dasa (his lagna lord dasa) is starting and lagna lord is in 10th house along with Sun and Venus). Will he change the present job?> Â > //there is possibility of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids //> True. His wife had one abortion and has a female kid. > Married in April 1998. Female kid was born in Dec 2001.> Â > //If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible//> Is it some business? he has not done any business till now in his life.> Â > //Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign//> This person worked abroad with his family for one year during sani dasa (May 2006 to May 2007)Â and then came back to India. > Â > Many thanks..> Â > Regards,> Sudhir> Namashivaya> > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.> > Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:11 AM> > > Â > > > > > Dear sudhir Menon Ji > > Thanks for the post > > I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am busy other wise .> > so my readingÂ wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct (means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting it )> > All prvarjya need not make a nativ aÂ sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying > > if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .> > here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job > > Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved .> > this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations .> > the dasa frm birth is not that good > > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic)Â and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario > > there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids > > there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some controvery or disparity etc ) > > If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible > > i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for nativ even for good causes > > Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etc while nativ passes middle age .> > Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign > > if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods in one way or other > > rest of the discussion afterÂ u giv feed back > > this is a quick reading > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:> >> > Namaste Sunil Ji,> > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.> > Ã‚Â > > Please see below details. This chart has bothÃ¢â‚¬ï¿½ Pravarja yoga' and Ã¢â‚¬Å"Gajakesari yoga"> > Ã‚Â > > Pravarja yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)> > Gajakesari yoga Ã¢â‚¬" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.> > Ã‚Â > > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)> > Time :1:55:00 PM> > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½ , 9 N 59Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½)> > Ã‚Â > > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life? Ã‚Â > > Ã‚Â > > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.> > Ã‚Â > > Regards,> > Sudhir> > Ã‚Â > > Namashivaya> > > > Ã‚Â > > > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:> > > > > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear punit Pandey ji > > > > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms > > > > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÃ‚Â dasa s to see the promise in chart > > > > Ã‚Â see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )Ã‚Â along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart > > > > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÃ‚Â ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÃ‚Â krishna paksha > > > > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup ) > > > > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and itÃ‚Â wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Ã‚Â .> > > > ThenÃ‚Â see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> > > > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÃ‚Â ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results ) > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > PS-> > > > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion againstÃ‚Â traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > > > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> > Ã‚Â > > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> > Ã‚Â > > 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted> > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)> > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively> > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively. > > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona. > > Ã‚Â > > Can one get better than this? So from theÃ‚Â traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level). > > Ã‚Â > > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> > Ã‚Â > > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÃ‚Â in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing theÃ‚Â whole chart. > > Ã‚Â > > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari. > > Ã‚Â > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> > Ã‚Â > > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> > Ã‚Â > > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only throughÃ‚Â the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of eventsÃ‚Â which are difficultÃ‚Â to ascertain with the other systems.Ã‚Â If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice. > > Ã‚Â > > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> > Ã‚Â > > As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.> > Ã‚Â > > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> > Ã‚Â > > Regards> > Adith> > > > > > > > Ã‚Â > > Ã‚Â > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he> has> > been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > > Ã‚Â > > > > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > > > > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > dhirendraji> > personality is not important..> > What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??> > physically mentally financially ....comments> > rajiv> > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.Ã‚Â This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > Ã‚Â > > > > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÃ‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> > @gro ups.com> > Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> > Quiz> > > > Ã‚Â > > > > Ã¯Â»Â¿ > > Dear list> > Ã‚Â > > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> > Ã‚Â > > Best regards> > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new India Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new India Homepage. > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now!> >>

September 29, 2009

Mr. Nair,

Thanks for correction.

I ,in fact, thought that native should be of Cancer

Navamsa Lagna.

Regards,

G. K. Goel

astro_tellerkerala

Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:14:15 +0000

Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its

effectiveness in real life.

Dear goel Ji

pls go slow ,u r not using ur vast Knowledge .

where on earth we hav sag navamsa in kanya sign as the nativ is Kanya Born lagna

..If it is a typo then sorry ,r u talking abt karkata navamsa ??

i do agree with ur reading otherwise .

rgrds sunil nair

, gopal krishna goel

<g.k.goel wrote:

>

> Dear Sudhir ji,

> As his marriage survived in major period of Saturn ,it clearly indicates that

> Sagittarius Lagna is rising in Navamsa chart with Atmakarka Saturn in 9H.

> Further,in D-9 ,Ketu,Rahu and Jupiter are Bhavottama And Moon and Saturn are

> in Vargottama.

> In D-10 Chart, Mercury is placed in 8H , his job situation will further

detoriate.

> In 10H ,all the four planets are in Mirgshira and Mars is combust, this does

not

> also conducive to profession.

> He should feed blind persons.(His birth time may be 13.52 instead of 13.55)

> Regards.

>

> G. K. Goel

>

> address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

>

> tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352,

>

> mobile: 09350311433

>

> sudhirmenon

> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:48:33 -0700

> Re: Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its

effectiveness in real life.

>

> Namaste Sunil Ji,

> Thanks for a quick response.Please see below my inputs,hope the below data

will help you for further analysis.

>

> //here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple

professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified

permamnt job //

> True. He has been working till now in various companies and has changed jobs

many times. (This person is an engineering graduate at present working in an

MNC)

>

> //the dasa frm birth is not that good

>

> it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is

nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the

situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp

in professional scenario //

> Yes. Sani Mahadasa is nearing the end (2nd Dec 2009)and Mecury dasa will

start. As you mentioned by this time this person would have crossed his middle

age. What are the good results in professional scenario? Is it because Mercury

dasa (his lagna lord dasa) is starting and lagna lord is in 10th house along

with Sun and Venus). Will he change the present job?

>

> //there is possibility of problems in married life also there is chances of

problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids //

> True. His wife had one abortion and has a female kid.

> Married in April 1998. Female kid was born in Dec 2001.

>

> //If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession

of creativ nature then professional success is possible//

> Is it some business? he has not done any business till now in his life.

>

> //Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands

then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean

sign//

> This person worked abroad with his family for one year during sani dasa (May

2006 to May 2007) and then came back to India.

>

> Many thanks..

>

> Regards,

> Sudhir

> Namashivaya

>

> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala

> Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its

effectiveness in real life.

>

> Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:11 AM

>

> Dear sudhir Menon Ji

>

> Thanks for the post

>

> I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am

busy other wise .

>

> so my reading wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct

(means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting

it )

>

> All prvarjya need not make a nativ a sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort

of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying

>

> if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it

would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .

>

> here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple

professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified

permamnt job

>

> Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much

bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved

> .

>

> this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations

..

>

> the dasa frm birth is not that good

>

> it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic) and Now sani is

nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the

situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp

in professional scenario

>

> there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of

problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids

>

> there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some

controvery or disparity etc )

>

> If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of

creativ nature then professional success is possible

>

> i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for

nativ even for good causes

>

> Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etc

> while nativ passes middle age .

>

> Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands

then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean

sign

>

> if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods

in one way or other

>

> rest of the discussion after u giv feed back

>

> this is a quick reading

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sunil Ji,

> > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with

out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and

many blame astrology.

> > Ã‚

> > Please see below details. This chart has bothÃ¢â‚¬ï¿½ Pravarja yoga' and

Ã¢â‚¬Å " Gajakesari yoga "

> > Ã‚

> > Pravarja yoga Ã¢â‚¬ " Since Sun+ Mars+

> Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)

> > Gajakesari yoga Ã¢â‚¬ " Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

> > Ã‚

> > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

> > Time :1:55:00 PM

> > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½ , 9 N 59Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ 00Ã¢â‚¬ï¿½)

> > Ã‚

> > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in

this person's real life? Ã‚

> > Ã‚

> > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can

give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real

life.

> > Ã‚

> > Regards,

> > Sudhir

> > Ã‚

> > Namashivaya

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:

> >

> > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59

> 75E50

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

> >

> > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

> >

> > dear punit Pandey ji

> >

> > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

> >

> > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But

knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÃ‚ dasa s to see the

promise in chart

> >

> > Ã‚ see the

> parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House

will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna

itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya

parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna (

lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga (

karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction

between day and nite )Ã‚ along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

> >

> > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt

with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÃ‚ ) the gulika also happening in

7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important

factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÃ‚ krishna paksha

> >

> > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup

and lack of

> plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and

jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting

jup )

> >

> > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc

is important and itÃ‚ wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and

its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Ã‚ .

> >

> > ThenÃ‚ see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer

as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what

good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in

prime period life he got best dasa ??

> >

> > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to

nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÃ‚ ) who is giver of raja

yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when

sun is

> giving results )

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > PS-

> >

> > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep

aversion againstÃ‚ traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will

prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

> >

> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> >

> > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

> > Ã‚

> > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more

useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart

from traditional astrology perspective -

> > Ã‚

> > 1.

> Lagna lord Sun is exalted

> > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from

tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun

and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in

this chart)

> > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

> > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona

lord respectively

> > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord

respectively.

> > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

> > Ã‚

> > Can one get better than this? So from theÃ‚ traditional astrology

perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

> > Ã‚

> > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets

are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated

in 5th house

> being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP

astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial

perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house

is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the

competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12

are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or

Moon.

> > Ã‚

> > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÃ‚ in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most

malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars,

Mercury and Ketu killing theÃ‚ whole chart.

> > Ã‚

> > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional

astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor

pujari.

> > Ã‚

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit

> Pandey

> >

> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@

gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

> > Ã‚

> > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

> > Ã‚

> > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well

denoted only throughÃ‚ the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the

events forecast , timing of eventsÃ‚ which are difficultÃ‚ to ascertain with the

other systems.Ã‚ If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we

have to read lot and practice.

> > Ã‚

> > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses

and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc

will definitely enrich our knowledge.

> > Ã‚

> > As I was not

> much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.

> > Ã‚

> > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

> > Ã‚

> > Regards

> > Adith

> >

> > Ã‚

> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@

ymail.com> wrote:

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person

there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu

and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign

of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of

business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of

earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame

during Saturn-

> Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died

during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during

20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to

17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to

10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from

10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From

16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has

> > been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and

sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be

facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

> >

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:

> >

> > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >

> >

> Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> >

> > @gro ups.com

> > Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > dhirendraji

> > personality is not important..

> > What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings

from ??

> > physically mentally financially ....comments

> > rajiv

> >

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

> > @gro ups.com

> >

> > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person

is courageous,religiou s

> person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical

work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of

astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall

height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This

person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be

writing and speaking.Ã‚ This person must have many brothers.This person may

suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

> >

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Ã‚

> >

> > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:

> >

> > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >

> > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

>

> > COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÃ‚

> >

> > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>

> > @gro ups.com

> > Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM

> > Quiz

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Ã¯Â»Â¿

> > Dear list

> > Ã‚

> > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.

> > Ã‚

> > Best regards

> > Sudhir

> >

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September 29, 2009

There is an apparent pravajya yoga in this chart but in reality the pravajya

yoga is defunct as Mars, Sun, Venus are within very close degrees to each other

and hence combust and according to Saravali, this yoga become defunct.

Â

But the traits would still be present in the individual as it is happening in

the tenth house and is inovolving lagna, ninth and tenth lords. This man can

also get visions in sleep about future happenings.

Â

regards,

Â

Mouji

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote:

Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon

Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness

in real life.

Monday, September 28, 2009, 1:46 PM

Namaste Sunil Ji,

Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out

taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many

blame astrology.

Â

Please see below details. This chart has bothâ€ Pravarja yoga' and

â€œGajakesari yoga "

Â

Pravarja yoga â€“ Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)

Gajakesari yoga â€“ Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

Â

Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

Time :1:55:00 PM

Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17â€™ 00â€ , 9 N 59â€™ 00â€)

Â

Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this

person's real life? Â

Â

Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give

your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.

Â

Regards,

Sudhir

Â

Namashivaya

Â

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL

1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

ancient_indian_ astrology

Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

Â

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

dear punit Pandey ji

Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms

Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But

knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÂ dasa s to see the

promise in chart

Â see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in

House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in

lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya

parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna (

lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga (

karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction

between day and nite )Â along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart

Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with

suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÂ ) the gulika also happening in 7th

House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor

in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÂ krishna paksha

even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and

lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses )

and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani

afflicting jup )

Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is

important and itÂ wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its

other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Â .

ThenÂ see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it

denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good

jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in

prime period life he got best dasa ??

also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to

nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÂ ) who is giver of raja

yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when

sun is giving results )

rgrds sunil nair

PS-

I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep

aversion againstÂ traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will

prevent me frm further answering / discussing .

--- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM

Â

Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,

Â

Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more

useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart

from traditional astrology perspective -

Â

1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted

2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from

tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun

and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in

this chart)

3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga

4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord

respectively

5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.

6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.

Â

Can one get better than this? So from theÂ traditional astrology perspective,

everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).

Â

If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are

posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in

5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional

astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from

financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession.

5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes

losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out

1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of

either Mars or Moon.

Â

9th and 12th lord JupiterÂ in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic

planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and

Ketu killing theÂ whole chart.

Â

This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional

astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor

pujari.

Â

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

wrote:

Â

Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,

Â

Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!

Â

As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted

only throughÂ the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events

forecast , timing of eventsÂ which are difficultÂ to ascertain with the other

systems.Â If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to

read lot and practice.

Â

We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and

planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc

will definitely enrich our knowledge.

Â

As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not

participate.

Â

But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.

Â

Regards

Adith

Â

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@

ymail.com> wrote:

Â

Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there

seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and

10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of

stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of

business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of

earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame

during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should

have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money

during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to

17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to

10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from

10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From

16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he has

been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and

sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be

facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

Â

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM

Â

dhirendraji

personality is not important..

What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from

??

physically mentally financially ....comments

rajiv

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

@gro ups.com

Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM

Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

Â

Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is

courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific

and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have

knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person

has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore

head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning

should be writing and speaking.Â This person must have many brothers.This person

may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

Â

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya <bokaariya > wrote:

rajiv bokariya <bokaariya >

QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

@gro ups.com

Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

Â

COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÂ

sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM

Quiz

Â

ï»¿

Dear list

Â

I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.

Â

Best regards

Sudhir

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September 29, 2009

Namaste Sunil Ji,

Thank you for providing more insights. Please see below the details you asked.

//when i asked u to see lagna frm moon general frutification and maturity age strt frm 30-32. but i typed middle age and u take it as yet to happen it //

He has achieved all things after 30. Got married in 1998. Had a female kid in 2001. Brought car. Brought house (in name of his wife and him â€“ both contributed since his wife is also working)//again u hav not givn feed back abt the family status of wife and srrounding of marriage happened //

He married from a normal family and was an arranged marriage. His wife is a computer engineering graduate and is working in an MNC. Her family consists of her father, mother and younger brother. Her father is retired, mother a home maker and brother is working in an MNC. Her brother recently got married few months back.//also where this nativ livs at present ( here also i typed birth country where i shud hav used birth place )when he came to new place frm his birth place ??or when he shifted frm there ??//

The native presently resides in Tamil Nadu. His birth was in Ernakulam (Kerala). After his engineering he left Kerala and throughout his career he was in different places â€¦Delhi, Chennai, Hyderabad a short period abroad and now back in Tamil Nadu.//again Like goel ji said merc dasa is not strong .But it is with 9th L and in one of the best kendra and its lord and lagna Lord //

Mercury dasa should give him good that is what I feel.so i am thinking a shift is going to happen in merc Dasa and he may take up diffrnt professions like advising or consultancy or own project ( depend s on his knowledge ) it will b a sort of free lance nature i think. but doing a business in traditional sense is not recommnted ,even any kind of partnership is best to avoid it.

Shift means ...Will it be a change of job & location or only change of job. Should he look for a change in job now or after Shani dasas ends. (Hope this happens in Mercury dasa and mercury bhukti.) Please correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,

Sudhir

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

September 29, 2009

Namaste Mauji,

Thank you for your inputs. Many time mutiple yogas in a charts are confusing and need to look into further details for analysis. I had already posted the details for your reference. Please mail your comments.

Regards,

Sudhir

---

September 29, 2009

Dear bhaskarji,

But currently i am undergoing sani dasha and jupiter antar dasha ,so

jupiter is involved in this yoga,,so shouldn't that yoga get activated.

how does kal sarpa yoga go along with pravrajya yoga .but are poles

apart . Trails and tribulations means, court affairs ? legal

proceedings ? etc?

Bhaskar wrote:

Dear Deepak,

Forget this Yoga for next 30 years.

The whole chart is full of material and professional achievements but

native will be detached from home or have less of domestic happiness.

lots of trials and tribulations, heart breaks in this chart alongwith

upheavals in life, go side by side with material affluence.

regards/Bhaskar.

,

deepak <deepakt

wrote:

>

> Dear all

>

> Relevance to this topic ,this chart has also got "Pravrajya yoga "

but

> what happens when all planets constituting this yoga is combust and

> dispositor for all the planets involved

> in this yoga is in dusthana ? The pravrajya yoga is in 9th house.

9th

> house is good house . but 9L is in a dustana ..but what will be its

> significations in real life ..This chart also has kal sarpa yoga

..so

how

> does two contridictary yogas manifest in real life ?

>

> Date of birth: 11 feb 1986 (Male)

> Time :16:07:00 PM

> Place: (75 E 22â€™ 00â€ , 11 N 52â€™ 00â€)

>

> Sudhir Menon wrote:

>

> >

> > Namaste Sunil Ji,

> > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and

predict

> > with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence

predictions

> > goes wrong and many blame astrology.

> >

> > Please see below details. This chart has bothâ€ Pravarja

yoga'

and

> > â€œGajakesari yoga"

> >

> > Pravarja yoga â€" Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th

House (4

> > planets)

> > Gajakesari yoga â€" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

> >

> > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

> > Time :1:55:00 PM

> > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17â€™ 00â€ , 9 N 59â€™

00â€)

> >

> > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect)

have

been

> > in this person's real life?

> >

> > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in

the group

> > can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its

> > effectiveness in real life.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sudhir

> >

> > Namashivaya

> >

> > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala

wrote:

> >

> > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala

> > Fw: Re:

QUIZ (NEW

> > 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> >

> > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

> >

> > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@

.co. in>

> > wrote:

> >

> > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR

> > 18N59 75E50

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

> >

September 29, 2009

Dear deepak ji,

What is the definition of " Pravrajya Yoga " ? Please also quote the

context of same.

regards/Bhaskar.

, deepak <deepakt

wrote:

>

> Dear bhaskarji,

>

> But currently i am undergoing sani dasha and jupiter antar dasha ,so

> jupiter is involved in this yoga,,so shouldn't that yoga get

activated.

> how does kal sarpa yoga go along with pravrajya yoga .but are poles

> apart . Trails and tribulations means, court affairs ? legal

proceedings

> ? etc?

>

> Bhaskar wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Deepak,

> >

> > Forget this Yoga for next 30 years.

> >

> > The whole chart is full of material and professional achievements

but

> > native will be detached from home or have less of domestic

happiness.

> >

> > lots of trials and tribulations, heart breaks in this chart

alongwith

> > upheavals in life, go side by side with material affluence.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > <%40>, deepak deepakt@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all

> > >

> > > Relevance to this topic ,this chart has also got " Pravrajya yoga "

but

> > > what happens when all planets constituting this yoga is combust

and

> > > dispositor for all the planets involved

> > > in this yoga is in dusthana ? The pravrajya yoga is in 9th house.

9th

> > > house is good house . but 9L is in a dustana ..but what will be

its

> > > significations in real life ..This chart also has kal sarpa yoga

..so

> > how

> > > does two contridictary yogas manifest in real life ?

> > >

> > > Date of birth: 11 feb 1986 (Male)

> > > Time :16:07:00 PM

> > > Place: (75 E 22âEUR^ 00âEUR? , 11 N 52âEUR^

00âEUR?)

> > >

> > > Sudhir Menon wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Sunil Ji,

> > > > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and

predict

> > > > with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence

predictions

> > > > goes wrong and many blame astrology.

> > > >

> > > > Please see below details. This chart has bothâEUR? Pravarja

yoga'

> > and

> > > > âEURoeGajakesari yoga "

> > > >

> > > > Pravarja yoga âEUR " Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the

10th

> > House (4

> > > > planets)

> > > > Gajakesari yoga âEUR " Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.

> > > >

> > > > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)

> > > > Time :1:55:00 PM

> > > > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17âEUR^ 00âEUR? , 9 N

59âEUR^

> > 00âEUR?)

> > > >

> > > > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have

> > been

> > > > in this person's real life?

> > > >

> > > > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the

group

> > > > can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its

> > > > effectiveness in real life.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Sudhir

> > > >

> > > > Namashivaya

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > > > Fw: Re: QUIZ

(NEW

> > > > 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co.

in>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR

> > > > 18N59 75E50

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM

> > > >

> >

>

September 29, 2009

Dear Sudhir Ji Thanks for the feed back His merc dasa will giv a transformation and a shift i blv as it is 5th and 8th L frm moon so new jobs or such scenarios can b expected .again merc with 4th and 9th L venus frm moon and 7th L sun and 10th L etc may helphim but so many planets also in one sign ( each will b competing and trying to outsmart -such a situation arises ) --such a yoga i dont know real name and i can call only sort of parivrajya yoga as by the time result arrives nativ dont feel like enjoying it nor care it even .but will continue the same track .so there may b lot of struggles too any way watch out this shift of dasa and giv me feed back rgrds sunil nair sorry to ask any feed back on his wife's looks ( my tension is how this sani is giving the results in that sector of life )or in other words -is he looks better than her , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote:>> Â Â > Namaste Sunil Ji,> Thank you for providing more insights. Please see below the details you asked.> > //when i asked u to see lagna frm moon general frutification and maturity age strt frm 30-32. but i typed middle age and u take it as yet to happen it //> He has achieved all things after 30. Got married in 1998. Had a female kid in 2001. Brought car. Brought house (in name of his wife and him â€" both contributed since his wife is also working)> > //again u hav not givn feed back abt the family status of wife and srrounding of marriage happened //> He married from a normal family and was an arranged marriage. His wife is a computer engineering graduate and is working in an MNC. Her family consists of her father, mother and younger brother. Her father is retired, mother a home maker and brother is working in an MNC. Her brother recently got married few months back.> > //also where this nativ livs at present ( here also i typed birth country where i shud hav used birth place )> when he came to new place frm his birth place ??or when he shifted frm there ??//> > The native presently resides in Tamil Nadu. His birth was in Ernakulam (Kerala). After his engineering he left Kerala and throughout his career he was in different places â€¦Delhi, Chennai, Hyderabad a short period abroad and now back in Tamil Nadu.> > //again Like goel ji said merc dasa is not strong .But it is with 9th L and in one of the best kendra and its lord and lagna Lord //> Mercury dasa should give him good that is what I feel.> > so i am thinking a shift is going to happen in merc Dasa and he may take up diffrnt professions like advising or consultancy or own project ( depend s on his knowledge ) it will b a sort of free lance nature i think. but doing a business in traditional sense is not recommnted ,even any kind of partnership is best to avoid it.> Shift means ...Will it be a change of job & location or only change of job. Should he look for a change in job now or after Shani dasas ends. (Hope this happens in Mercury dasa and mercury bhukti.)Â Please correct me if I am wrong.> Â > Regards,> Sudhir> > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.> > Monday, September 28, 2009, 1:23 PM> > > Â > > > > > Dear sudhir Ji> > Thanks for ur response> > sorry there is some discrepancy happened in typing .> > when i asked u to see lagna frm moon general frutification and maturity age strt frm 30-32 .> > but i typed middle age and u take it as yet to happen it> > again u hav not givn feed back abt the family status of wife and srrounding of marriage happened> > also where this nativ livs at present ( here also i typed birth country where i shud hav used birth place )> when he came to new place frm his birth place ??or when he shifted frm there ??> > again Like goel ji said merc dasa is not strong> > But it is with 9th L and in one of the best kendra and its lord and lagna Lord> > so i am thinking a shift is going to happen in merc Dasa and he may take up diffrnt professions like advising or consultancy or own project ( depend s on his knowledge )> > it will b a sort of free lance nature i think> > but doing a business in traditional sense is not recommnted ,even any kind of partnership is best to avoid it> > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:> >> > Namaste Sunil Ji,> > Thanks for a quick response.Please see below my inputs,hope the below data will help you for further analysis.> > Ã‚Â > > //here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job //> > True.Ã‚Â He has been working till now in various companies and has changed jobs many times. (This person is an engineering graduate at present working in an MNC)> > Ã‚Â > > //the dasa frm birth is not that good> >> > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic)Ã‚Â and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario //> > Yes. SaniÃ‚Â Mahadasa is nearing the end (2nd Dec 2009)and Mecury dasa will start. As you mentioned by this time this person would have crossed his middle age. What are the good results in professional scenario? Is it because Mercury dasa (his lagna lord dasa) is starting and lagna lord is in 10th house along with Sun and Venus). Will he change the present job?> > Ã‚Â > > //there is possibility of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids //> > True. His wife had one abortion and has a female kid.> > Married in April 1998. Female kid was born in Dec 2001.> > Ã‚Â > > //If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible//> > Is it some business? he has not done any business till now in his life.> > Ã‚Â > > //Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign//> > This person worked abroad with his family for one year during sani dasa (May 2006 to May 2007)Ã‚Â and then came back to India.> > Ã‚Â > > Many thanks..> > Ã‚Â > > Regards,> > Sudhir> > Namashivaya> >> > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> >> >> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:11 AM> >> >> > Ã‚Â > >> >> >> >> > Dear sudhir Menon Ji> >> > Thanks for the post> >> > I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am busy other wise .> >> > so my readingÃ‚Â wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct (means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting it )> >> > All prvarjya need not make a nativ aÃ‚Â sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying> >> > if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .> >> > here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job> >> > Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved .> >> > this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations .> >> > the dasa frm birth is not that good> >> > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic)Ã‚Â and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario> >> > there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids> >> > there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some controvery or disparity etc )> >> > If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible> >> > i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for nativ even for good causes> >> > Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etc while nativ passes middle age .> >> > Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign> >> > if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods in one way or other> >> > rest of the discussion afterÃ‚Â u giv feed back> >> > this is a quick reading> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Sunil Ji,> > > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Please see below details. This chart has bothÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¯Â¿Â½ Pravarja yoga' and ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…"Gajakesari yoga"> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Pravarja yoga ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬" Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)> > > Gajakesari yoga ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)> > > Time :1:55:00 PM> > > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ 00ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¯Â¿Â½ , 9 N 59ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ 00ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¯Â¿Â½)> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life? Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Regards,> > > Sudhir> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Namashivaya> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>> > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > dear punit Pandey ji> > >> > > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms> > >> > > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â dasa s to see the promise in chart> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart> > >> > > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â krishna paksha> > >> > > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )> > >> > > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and itÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â .> > >> > > ThenÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> > >> > > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > PS-> > >> > > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion againstÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> > >> > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted> > > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)> > > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> > > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively> > > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.> > > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Can one get better than this? So from theÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing theÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â whole chart.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only throughÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of eventsÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â which are difficultÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â to ascertain with the other systems.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars -he> > has> > > been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,> > >> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> > >> > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > dhirendraji> > > personality is not important..> > > What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??> > > physically mentally financially ....comments> > > rajiv> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> > >> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > >> > >> > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> > > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > > COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> > > Quiz> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > > ÃƒÂ¯Ã‚Â»Ã‚Â¿> > > Dear list> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Best regards> > > Sudhir> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. 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October 1, 2009

Dear Sudhir Ji Thanks for the Ur feed back I am giving all this readings based on the fact that the birth time u supplied is correct ( u may agree a minor diffrnce can make things total diffrnt ) sure ,merc with 2nd and 9th l and in 10th house but we shud not overlook factor that it is also with 8th L and 12th L and some unepxpted incident s also possible ,also 10th frm lagna ( self ) indicate need for put in efforts in right direction merc is famous for its quality to adapt environmnt and hence same time benefic and malefic for lagna Like virgo and gemini sure all shift in complete direction can happen in merc -mer period it will act -This period -like a trailor of a movie for full Maha dasa Rgrds sunil nair , Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon wrote:>> Namaste Sunil Ji,> Thank you, please see below my inputs> > ///Â His merc dasa will giv a transformation and a shift i blv as it is 5th and 8th L frm moon > so new jobs or such scenarios can b expected. ///> Â > Agree. When will be the shift to new job?. I feel mercury dasa starting (from Jan 2010 till May 2010). Â Please correct if I am wrong.> > ///again merc with 4th and 9th L venus frm moon and 7th L sun and 10th L etc may helphim/// > > Yes. He mayÂ shift to a better job (may be position wise/financial wise). Does this indicate a shift of present location. (Chennai)> > ///but so many planets also in one sign ( each will b competing and trying to outsmart -such a situation arises ) --such a yoga i dont know real name and i can call only sort of parivrajya yogaÂ as by the time result arrives nativ dont feel like enjoying it nor care it even .but will continue the same track/// .> Â > Yes. The individual will continue in his profession Â (sun in 10th House, Lagna lord in 10th house, Lagna Lord mercury mahadasa coming in two months time)> > ///so there may b lot of struggles too///> Wonâ€™t it be better than sani dasa?> > ///any way watch out this shift of dasa and giv me feed back// > Sure. I will update you> > ///sorry to ask any feed back on his wife's looks ( my tension is how this sani is giving the results in that sector of life ) or in other words -is he looks better than her ///> Â > He is tall/slim and above average inÂ looks.> His wife is fair and above average in looks.> Â > Regards,> Sudhir> > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.> > Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 8:04 AM> > > Â > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:> >> > Ã‚Â Ã‚Â > > Namaste Sunil Ji,> > Thank you for providing more insights. Please see below the details you asked.> > > > //when i asked u to see lagna frm moon general frutification and maturity age strt frm 30-32. but i typed middle age and u take it as yet to happen it //> > He has achieved all things after 30. Got married in 1998. Had a female kid in 2001. Brought car. Brought house (in name of his wife and him Ã¢â‚¬" both contributed since his wife is also working)> > > > //again u hav not givn feed back abt the family status of wife and srrounding of marriage happened //> > He married from a normal family and was an arranged marriage. His wife is a computer engineering graduate and is working in an MNC. Her family consists of her father, mother and younger brother. Her father is retired, mother a home maker and brother is working in an MNC. Her brother recently got married few months back.> > > > //also where this nativ livs at present ( here also i typed birth country where i shud hav used birth place )> > when he came to new place frm his birth place ??or when he shifted frm there ??//> > > > The native presently resides in Tamil Nadu. His birth was in Ernakulam (Kerala). After his engineering he left Kerala and throughout his career he was in different places Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Delhi, Chennai, Hyderabad a short period abroad and now back in Tamil Nadu.> > > > //again Like goel ji said merc dasa is not strong .But it is with 9th L and in one of the best kendra and its lord and lagna Lord //> > Mercury dasa should give him good that is what I feel.> > > > so i am thinking a shift is going to happen in merc Dasa and he may take up diffrnt professions like advising or consultancy or own project ( depend s on his knowledge ) it will b a sort of free lance nature i think. but doing a business in traditional sense is not recommnted ,even any kind of partnership is best to avoid it.> > Shift means ...Will it be a change of job & location or only change of job. Should he look for a change in job now or after Shani dasas ends. (Hope this happens in Mercury dasa and mercury bhukti.)Ã‚Â Please correct me if I am wrong.> > Ã‚Â > > Regards,> > Sudhir> > > > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, September 28, 2009, 1:23 PM> > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > Dear sudhir Ji> > > > Thanks for ur response> > > > sorry there is some discrepancy happened in typing .> > > > when i asked u to see lagna frm moon general frutification and maturity age strt frm 30-32 .> > > > but i typed middle age and u take it as yet to happen it> > > > again u hav not givn feed back abt the family status of wife and srrounding of marriage happened> > > > also where this nativ livs at present ( here also i typed birth country where i shud hav used birth place )> > when he came to new place frm his birth place ??or when he shifted frm there ??> > > > again Like goel ji said merc dasa is not strong> > > > But it is with 9th L and in one of the best kendra and its lord and lagna Lord> > > > so i am thinking a shift is going to happen in merc Dasa and he may take up diffrnt professions like advising or consultancy or own project ( depend s on his knowledge )> > > > it will b a sort of free lance nature i think> > > > but doing a business in traditional sense is not recommnted ,even any kind of partnership is best to avoid it> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Sunil Ji,> > > Thanks for a quick response.Please see below my inputs,hope the below data will help you for further analysis.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > //here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job //> > > True.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â He has been working till now in various companies and has changed jobs many times. (This person is an engineering graduate at present working in an MNC)> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > //the dasa frm birth is not that good> > >> > > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic)Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario //> > > Yes. SaniÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Mahadasa is nearing the end (2nd Dec 2009)and Mecury dasa will start. As you mentioned by this time this person would have crossed his middle age. What are the good results in professional scenario? Is it because Mercury dasa (his lagna lord dasa) is starting and lagna lord is in 10th house along with Sun and Venus). Will he change the present job?> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > //there is possibility of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids //> > > True. His wife had one abortion and has a female kid.> > > Married in April 1998. Female kid was born in Dec 2001.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > //If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible//> > > Is it some business? he has not done any business till now in his life.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > //Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign//> > > This person worked abroad with his family for one year during sani dasa (May 2006 to May 2007)Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â and then came back to India.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Many thanks..> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Regards,> > > Sudhir> > > Namashivaya> > >> > > --- On Mon, 9/28/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > >> > >> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Mutiple yogas in chart and its effectiveness in real life.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:11 AM> > >> > >> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear sudhir Menon Ji> > >> > > Thanks for the post> > >> > > I also dont delve much deep into this chart as i dont hav much time and i am busy other wise .> > >> > > so my readingÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â wil b general and based on blving the birth time is correct (means this is the time as told by elders than some one spoiled it by correcting it )> > >> > > All prvarjya need not make a nativ aÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â sort of sanyasi ,it may b showing a sort of negetiv traits in the house it is occuppying> > >> > > if all planets r in kendra s it will giv additional strnght to the chart it would hav been a totaly diffrnt one .> > >> > > here 10th House has so many planets ,so it may giv more Jobs /multiple professions even or job satisfaction will not b there or even Not a dignified permamnt job> > >> > > Gaja kesari yoga between 11th L and 4th +7th L jupiter ( again not that much bad ) tho nowhere trines are involved .> > >> > > this make moon to b strong and giv mind to nativ to survive tru odd situations .> > >> > > the dasa frm birth is not that good> > >> > > it was rahu with sat ,jup ( again not a functional benefic)Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â and Now sani is nearing end ( a nuetral we can say but a planet with rahu ) but frm Moon the situation is diffrnt ,so after middle age it can giv some what good results .Esp in professional scenario> > >> > > there is possiblity of problems in married life also there is chances of problems in child birth or delays or more girl kids> > >> > > there is possiblity to marry frm a lower strtata than nativ born ( or some controvery or disparity etc )> > >> > > If the nativ is following some kind of independent profession or profession of creativ nature then professional success is possible> > >> > > i cannot see the volume of money one may earn tho expenditure is showing for nativ even for good causes> > >> > > Body may b weak and possiblity of getting sckness etc while nativ passes middle age .> > >> > > Nativ may liv in a place other than birth country and if it is foreign lands then more good as sani in 7th H in dasa is having digbala and meena rasi a ocean sign> > >> > > if all period what ever happening in his life till sat dasa was maraka periods in one way or other> > >> > > rest of the discussion afterÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â u giv feed back> > >> > > this is a quick reading> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sudhir Menon <sudhirmenon@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Sunil Ji,> > > > Thank you for post. Many astrologers look into the chart and predict with out taking a deep dive into the details and hence predictions goes wrong and many blame astrology.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Please see below details. This chart has bothÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¯Ã‚Â¿Ã‚Â½ Pravarja yoga' and ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦"Gajakesari yoga"> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Pravarja yoga ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬" Since Sun+ Mars+ Mercury+ Venus in the 10th House (4 planets)> > > > Gajakesari yoga ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬" Since Jupiter is in the Kendra of Moon.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Date of birth: 16 June 1968 (Male)> > > > Time :1:55:00 PM> > > > Place: Ernakulam (76 E 17ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢ 00ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¯Ã‚Â¿Ã‚Â½ , 9 N 59ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚Â¢ 00ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¯Ã‚Â¿Ã‚Â½)> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Can you give insight to how these yogas (cumilative effect) have been in this person's real life? ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Note: This is not for chart reading; any learned member in the group can give your inputs on yoga combinations in charts and its effectiveness in real life.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Regards,> > > > Sudhir> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Namashivaya> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:34 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>> > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 11:03 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > dear punit Pandey ji> > > >> > > > Thanks for talking in traditional astrological terms> > > >> > > > Sure at one Look the chart is promising without deeply delving into it .But knowledge of very basics has to b employed with unfoldingÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â dasa s to see the promise in chart> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â see the parivrjya yoga ( so many planets in one house -4 or more planets in House will result a sort of sanyasa type of yoga and here it is happening in lagna itself and lagna represent the person himself ) in lagna ,and dainya parivarthana between Lagna Lord and 3rd L and daridra yoga happening in lagna ( lagna and lagna Lord affcted along marakesh and dhanesh ) along with duryoga ( karmesha and labhesa in dustanas ) and Born in Morning sandhya ( junction between day and nite )ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â along with dasa s u can work a gr8 deal abt the chart> > > >> > > > Also being a Nite birth ( as he born within a ghati b4 sunrise and day strt with suryodaya according to Hindu astrologyÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â ) the gulika also happening in 7th House and along with rahu ,also in nite births chandra balam is important factor in supporting Horoscopes and Born inÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â krishna paksha> > > >> > > > even to fruitify the gajakesari in material level the retrogresion of Jup and lack of plaksha bala of moon etc r hindrance ( also jup shud own good houses ) and jup shud not b afflicted is another critiria ( here Nodes and sani afflicting jup )> > > >> > > > Pls Note any good yoga to work the status of the planets and afflictions etc is important and itÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â wil giv a strong decrese in the strnght of the yoga and its other side aspects wil b pronounced ( like spiritual )ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â .> > > >> > > > ThenÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â see the dasa s ,he born in rahu-ketu ( birth dasa will b a pointer as it denotes the karma phala this soul may exprence ) and then got some what good jupiter dasa and after age of 24 he got saturn dasa for 19 yrs and where in prime period life he got best dasa ??> > > >> > > > also sun is not having any support ( refer suryadi yogas,even according to nadies sun first sees venus ,then merc and then ketuÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â ) who is giver of raja yogas in a chart than moon ( moon is mother and she can take care a person when sun is giving results )> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > PS-> > > >> > > > I know this is not a traditional astrology forum and some memebrs has deep aversion againstÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â traditional astrology ,so any attacking kind of mails will prevent me frm further answering / discussing .> > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 25/9/09, Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, 25 September, 2009, 12:21 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Rajiv ji/ Adith ji and Friends,> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Contrary to what Adith ji has said, I believe that principles of KP are more useful in this case than the principles of traditional astrology. See the chart from traditional astrology perspective -> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > 1. Lagna lord Sun is exalted> > > > 2. Moon is Vargottama aspected by Jupiter (for the people who are not from tradional astrology background, I would like to tell them that well placed Sun and Moon is very important condition for rajyoga, which seems to be there in this chart)> > > > 3. Moon is in kendra from Jupiter creating gaja-kesari yoga> > > > 4. Moon - Jupiter aspect is also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively> > > > 5. Venus - Sun also creating rajyoga by being kendra and kona lord respectively.> > > > 6. 9th lord Jupiter aspecting five planets from 5th kona.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Can one get better than this? So from theÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â traditional astrology perspective, everything looks very good (at least at the surface level).> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > If we will see the chart from KP perspective, we can see that four planets are posited in 1st house negating 2nd, the house of finance. Jupiter is situated in 5th house being lord of 12th house and 9th house. Contrary to traditional astrology, KP astrology doesn't regard 5th house and 9th house any good from financial perspective. 9th house is negation of 10th house, house of profession. 5th house is 11th to 7th which generally is not good for finance and denotes losing to the competition. Saturn is in 8th hosue. Only two planets that are out 1, 5, 9, 12 are Mars and Moon. Unfortunately person did not get mahadasa of either Mars or Moon.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > 9th and 12th lord JupiterÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â in 5th in the Star of Sun in 1st is the most malefic planet in this chart. No wonder, Jupiter aspecting Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury and Ketu killing theÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â whole chart.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > This chart reminds us how dangerous can be kona - 1, 5, 9. In tradional astrology these are considered as laxmi sthana :-) and see the position of poor pujari.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > >> > > > Punit Pandey> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Dhirendra nath Ji,> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Appreciated your few few predictions which came true!> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > As Rajiv ji said, such predictions on the general details are very well denoted only throughÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â the traditional Astrology . Kp is always good for the events forecast , timing of eventsÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â which are difficultÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â to ascertain with the other systems.ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â If we have both the knowledge will be more useful for which we have to read lot and practice.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > We can follow the good points about the importance of the strength of houses and planets, conjunctions, Aspects and many other points along with our KP whihc will definitely enrich our knowledge.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > As I was not much confident with the knowledege in this subject, I did not participate.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > But it sounds you have some exposure which is appreciated.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Rajivji Sir,Thanks for guidance.In birth chart of this person there seems unstable source of earning.Sub lord of 10th cusp is retrograde Rahu and 10th and 11th lord Saturn is posited in 8th house.This also shows weak sign of stable earning.This person had tried many times to earn huge money by way of business but could not do so.He could not get any thing in legacy.source of earning had been writing and speaking.He should have earned money ,name,and fame during Saturn- Venus period during 16.02.1987 to 7.04.1990.His father should have died during 07.04.1990 to 21.03.1991.Again he should have earned money during 20.03.1991 to 19.10.1992.He had done religious work during 03.10.1996 to 17.04.1999 and again he had suffered a great loss from 17.04.1999 to 10.09.2002.He again earned money from 10.09.2002 to 10.07.2005 and from 10.07.2005 to 16.10.2007 he should have earned from writing books.From 16.10.2007 to 12.10.2008 during Mercury- Mars> -he> > > has> > > > been performing religious deeds and earning money.One of the brothers and sisters may have died during this period.On the whole at present he should be facing great hard ships.Submitted for your perusal and reply.With regards,> > > >> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > > --- On Sat, 9/19/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> > > >> > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:43 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > dhirendraji> > > > personality is not important..> > > > What does this person do...u can say business income and behaviour earnings from ??> > > > physically mentally financially ....comments> > > > rajiv> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > >> > > > Friday, 18 September, 2009 10:41:31 PM> > > > Re: QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Rajiv Ji,My opinion about this person is as following-This person is courageous,religiou s person,knowledgeabl e about time,interested in scientific and technical work,blessed with good brain & wealth.This person must have knowledge of astrology.blessed with beautiful spouse having big eyes.This person has tall height,pleasant big eyes,beautiful face,pronounced nose and wide fore head.This person may be Tantrik(having knowledge of talismans).Source of earning should be writing and speaking.ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â This person must have many brothers.This person may suffer from acidity.Submitted for perusal.With regards,> > > >> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, rajiv bokariya bokaariya > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > rajiv bokariya bokaariya >> > > > QUIZ (NEW 25 APRIL 1957 6.00 AM BIR 18N59 75E50> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:29 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > COMMENT ON THIS PERSON AND PERSONALITYÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ gmail.com>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, 17 September, 2009 8:53:24 PM> > > > Quiz> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¯Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â»Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¿> > > > Dear list> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > I am looking forward to somebody posting quiz like Rajiv ji.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > Best regards> > > > Sudhir> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. 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