Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.-in phaladeepika

September 30, 2009

Dear Gopi ji and dhananjayan ji i am seeing the phaladeepika translation http://www.astrojyoti.com/phaladeepika3.htmNow where i find such a dictum in capter 6 i am copying it here too i will post as diffrnt mail rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Dhananjayan ji,> pranams.Your name sounds and sugests that you have/had victory over> wealth.Pl corect me if i am wrong about the meaning.This is what sri> krishna addressed Arjuna in Geetha many a time.Nice name.> Regarding the sloka the dictum works only when the exchange takes place> is my humble opinion.> Love and regards,> gopi.> , Dhananjayan Brahma> abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> > Mr.SunilNairji & Mr.Vijay Goel ji,> >> > I think Ch.6 sloka 32 of Phaladeepika is not in contrast to the under> noted adage> >> > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.> > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.> > [if Jupiter and Saturn are exchanging their signs , Saturn> > Â will do Viridhi to bhava and Jupiter will harm the Bhava].> > I think the former hasten to explain the theme pertaining to> Bava-lords and the latter pertains to the theme of planetary effects on> the houses they are posited.> > An astrologer should evaluate both the effects and focus his> predictions on given contingency .> >> > I can not explain beyond the above,but some one who caught my points> could argue / present it in a better way.> >> > Regards/Dhananjayan> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- On Wed, 30/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@> > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana> Vriddi karo Sani.> > > > Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 12:31 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Vijay Goel Ji> >> > Thanks for this supposed full shloka> >> > when ever there was a discussion on this ADAGE all this yrsÂ in> all forums of and when ever it appeared it i also challenged it> was alwys quoted was in theÂ form of lastÂ line (####Â > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.Â ######) And no one> has quoted this first line> >> > Now i am thankfull for u ,u havÂ givn the first line too ###Â > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.###> >> > Those days no one quoted this missing first LineÂ even when> challenged it they rather escaped the discussion saying some credential> abt him/ family or parampara ( u can also refer in this grp too as i> dont want to name any body ), even some one was claiming as if thier> someÂ family Elder/or his guruÂ is originator of this shloka and> i shud respect it .That has created more anguish in me as i know what> all this so called adages ( luggages )Â has destroyed how many> persons reputation and ability to predict .> >> > Now let us come down to basics ,what abt basics u learned> >> > what abt ishta parivarthan ?Â what abt> > dushta parivarthan ,what abt dainya parivarthan ?? Even what abt> daridra yoga tru parivarthan ??> >> > do u think all this time it will work on that way mentioned in this> shloka> >> > if u question again ,u can see more additions to sloka s appearing> >> > By the by do u hav any idea what is the source of this shloka than any> thing written in sanskrit has any authenticity> >> > ifÂ Jupiter is Lagna lord and sani is 2nd/3rd lord and sani in> lagna andÂ how u predict this> >> > if jupiter is 4th Lord and lagna Lord and in 3rd house and sani in 4th> house ,how u take it ??> >> > if jupiter is 8th Lord and sani is 9th L and in parivarthan how u take> it> >> > if jupiter is 7th L and sani is 8th Lord and sani in 7th house how u> take this> >> > all same results ??> >> > do we need the crutches of a shloka for all this situationsÂ to> arrive results based on pure logic s> >> > sure one tree wont make a forest ,so one sani or one> > jup is not ultimate idea to see the chart and chart will get modify> on various factors ,but here i am asking the pure logic> >> > if we know Logics in proper way we can make 1000s of new yogas .Even> better than misleading one .> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil Nair ji & list,> > >> > > The complete sloke which is populer in north India is as follows :> > >> > > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.> > > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.> > >> > > This is the sloke which Sri G K Goel is referring at.> > >> > > This sloke has been also discussed in details with examples in the> > > Magazine Jyotish Manthan August 2002> > issue.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > jaipur> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "astro_tellerkerala "> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > dear Goel Ji> > > >> > > > i do hav full faith in ur knowledge but> > > >> > > > Pls see that the sloka no where says abt exchange> > > >> > > > also what ever u r saying is against rules of exchange Yoga s,Max> > > > malefics in a house can ruin that house according to basic> concepts in> > > > astrology> > > >> > > > other wise if u hav full text of shloka pls feel free to post it> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, gopal krishna> goel> > > > g.k.goel@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I also do not have the sloka> > ,but it means that:> > > > > "If Jupiter and Saturn are exchanging their signs , Saturn> > > > > will do Viridhi to bhava and Jupiter will harm the Bhava"> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > G. K. Goel> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:22:12 +0000> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear> Gopi> > > Jee> >> > > > > Dear gopi ji> > > > >> > > > > sure ,Thanks> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > o.k.Sunil nair ji,thanks... .> > > > >> > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji and List> > > > > > >> > > > > > > here is the adage on sani and jup propogated By some> > > > astrologers> > > > > > >> > > > > > > XXXXX""Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau> > > > > > > shani:"""""XXXXXX> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Tho it does not hav any textual support> > > > > > >> > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > >> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Gopi JI> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Pls quote the full dictum if u remebr it or some> forumites> > > > may b> > > > > > > > knowing it> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > even this was discussed many times in grp> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > i do remebr it but forget full quote> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > vridhi karo manda ------------ something like this i blv> ,means> > > > sat> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > increse the significations of the house it is placed and> will> > > > > > distroy> > > > > > > > the house it aspects and jup will> > destroy the signification of> > > > the> > > > > > > > houses it is placed and improv the bhavas it aspects> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even In ur case do u blv so ??> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > In that case why the sat irrespectiv of its exaltation why> it> > > > has> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > blessed u with unlimited money ( A rich person also need> not> > > > work> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > others )> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > is 10th house is all abt some paid Job ?? which is latest> > > > scenario> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > this present age ? where as in olden days how many> persons> > > were> > > > > > under> > > > > > > > permanent jobs ? with regular> > salaries> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > even in india miliatry persons and cheifs were paid in> terms> > > of> > > > > > Landed> > > > > > > > properties than a permannt salary ( atleast i know this> was so> > > > in> > > > > > > kerala> > > > > > > > History ) till the advent of islam in world history where> > > > Military> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > allowed to Loot the enmies and enslave all woman ,kids and> > > > youths> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > sell it or keep it and it was salary for them .As arbian> > > > deserts> > > > > > wont> > > > > > > > giv them enough facility for a comfortable living .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > So 10th house has Lot of signification in actual life> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > do u think shri KN rao Ji dont hav a good job tho he may> or> > > may> > > > not> > > > > > b> > > > > > > > satisfied in it ,i dont Know much abt it> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > > > > > > There is a dictum which says that jup spoils the house> of> > > its> > > > > > > > placement> > > > > > > > > and improves the houses it aspects and sat vice-verse.I> > > found> > > > it> > > > > > > > working> > > >> > > > > > > well.I read it in newspaper column of a well known> > > > > > astrologer.. ....> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Karan"> > > > karan@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me> > > > jupiter> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > exhaled in 10H and it has always given me> dis-satisfaction> > > no> > > > > > matter> > > > > > > > how> > > > > > > > > fast i grew, not had problems in promotions but nothing> ever> > > > > >> > > > satisfied.> > > > > > > > > > Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable> > > wherein> > > > i> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > always wanted to lead but is impossible in service and> > > creates> > > > a> > > > > > > > > dissatisfaction again.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > best regards> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Karan> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Manoj> > > > Chandran> > > > > >> > > > > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra Ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit> > > concept> > > > is> > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it.> > > Hence> > > > my> > > > > > > > > default view is always Rashi view.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > Sudan msbohra62@> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka> comcept> > > > -dear> > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for> Judiciary,Teaching> > > > and> > > > > > > > Account> > > >> > > > > > > services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural> > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure> work> > > than> > > > he> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > punished by his Karma (Saturn).> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house> see> > > > the> > > > > > > chalit> > > > > > > > > chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in> > > 12th,Moon> > > > is> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > 3rd> > > > > > > > > and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house> Ketu> > > > have> > > > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > Manoj> > > > > > > Chandran> > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out> because> > > > this is> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not> > > > necessarily> > > > > > > > great.> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka> > > comcept> > > > > >> > -dear> > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj JI> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Very Valid and Logical Points> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well> in> > > > kali> > > > > > yuga> > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga> (> > > > means> > > > > > NON> > > > > > > > > -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut> > > -throat> > > > > > > > > competition and survival of fittest world with such a> > > attitude> > > > ??> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and> giv> > > only> > > > rs> > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is> just a> > > > > > > temporary> > > > > > > > > one , how many will even respect them in this Louika> Loga> > > and> > > > who> > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil> > nair> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> com,> > > > Manoj> > > > > > > > Chandran> > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers,> Guru> > > in> > > > the> > > > > > > 10H> > > > > > > > > is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those> who> > > > have> > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H> > will> > > make> > > > > > them> > > > > > > > > constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other> > > > people.> > > > > > Some> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb> house> > > of> > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances"> the> > > > 6H of> > > > > > > > Work> > > > > > > > > from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult> to> > > go> > > > > > past> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc> might be> > > > > > denied> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one> > >> > factor> > > > ...> > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can> explain> > > > career> > > > > > > > > problems with this placement.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka> comcept> > > > -dear> > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept> > > tagging> > > > to> > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > >> > > > charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in> 10th> > > > House> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > u> > > > > > > > > may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other> > > > factors> > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > > simply clinging with such one liners> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm> Prashna> > > > charts> > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma> ,its> > > > > > effects> > > > > > > >> > etc> > > > > > > > > working after one taken birth and its frutification till> the> > > > time> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles > and> > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like> some> > > > > > animals> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no> choices> > > > ,where> > > > > > as> > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will> also> > > in> > > > > > > humans> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic> stone> > > > > > structure> > > > > > > > > which cannot changed ( i mean our fate )> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the> > > > saraswathi> > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid> > > --just> > > > leav> > > > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > children to fate and sits carelessly> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made> a> > > > > > > > > subjective(astrolog y)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the> statement> > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna> and2nd> > > > lord> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > speach(note> > > > > > > > > > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of> luck> > > >> > apart> > > > > > from> > > > > > > > VRY> > > > > > > > > can talk> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat> in> > > > 2nd> > > > > > asp> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > badhaka> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing> else....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > com,> > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being> > > > in> > > > > > your> > > > > > > > 2nd> > > > > > > > > house,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not> to be> > > > > > blamed> > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > ones> > > > > > > > > > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances> > > done> > > > in> > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > Life as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as> > > > Kriyamana> > > > > > > > >> > Karmas. Why> > > > > > > > > > > > > > must> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is> > > Saturn> > > > to> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > blamed kindly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest> > > > > > significator> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > Your> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth> and> > > > > > happiness> > > > > > > > > from family> > > > > > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives> from> > > > planets> > > > > > > like> > > >> > > > > > > Saturn,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not> taint> > > > them> > > > > > > > > unnecessarily.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has> become a> > > > > > > punching> > > > > > > > > bag for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses> > > normal> > > > > > > > > commonsense one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find that saturn is the> > Owner for the 10th house> > > > of> > > > > > karm> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas> mars> > > is> > > > the> > > > > > > > > agression in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hard> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point> in> > > the> > > > > > > natural> > > > > > > > > 10th. Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant> > > > happiness> > > > > > > both> > > > > > > > > material and> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the> > > Supreme> > > > Lord> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > one must> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in> speech> > > and> > > > > > > > treatment> > > > > > > > > . remember> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just> > > > instruments> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > award us> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pains> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the> > >> > various> > > > > > > planets> > > > > > > > > just show> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the> pains> > > > and> > > > > > > > > pleasures which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One should always be proud of his> ancestory in> > > > the> > > > > > > field> > > > > > > > > he is in.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say> that> > > > you> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > doing Kriya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20> > > years> > > > ? I> > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > sure you know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa> > > > > > Yoganandji,> > > > > > > > His> > > > > > > > > guru Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri> Mahasaya,> > > and> > > > His> > > > > > > > guru> > > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and> > > undermine> > > > his> > > > > > > > Gurus> > > > > > >> > > > by saying> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to> look> > > > good> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > saying that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if> > > normally> > > > > > > common> > > > > > > > > uniqueness> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here> doing> > > > Kriya> > > > > > > yoga,> > > > > > > > > as must be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done actually> > ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed> to> > > your> > > > > > name> > > > > > > ?> > > > > > > > > with above ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the> > > Great> > > > > > > > Astrologer> > > > > > > > > Shri K S> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if> one> > > > > > > considers> > > > > > > > > the term as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His> > > Shishya> > > >> > was> > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > kasbe ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his> > > shishya> > > > is> > > > > > > > myself> > > > > > > > > as having> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which> is> > > why> > > > I> > > > > > > never> > > > > > > > > allow> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or> to my> > > > > > > > knowledge.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri> > Paramhansa> > > > Yoganandji> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > last> > > > > > > > > 15 Years> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not> demand> > > > respect> > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga,> Hong> > > > Sau or> > > > > > > > > energisations> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you> are> > > > doing> > > > > > > > this,> > > > > > > > > you have> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear> > > ordinary> > > > and> > > > > > > > > unnecessary> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > humble.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of> your> > > > > > > attainments> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > you are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and> i> > > dont> > >> > > > > > deserve> > > > > > > > > anything> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but> cant> > > help> > > > > > since> > > > > > > > sat> > > > > > > > > in my 2nd> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real> McCoy)and> > > a> > > > > > > > realized> > > > > > > > > one whom i> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start> > > > living> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > made me> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > .> > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and> > > Energisation> > > > > > > > > excersises of Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a> > > > unique> > > > > > > member> > > > > > > > > in this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I> > > would> > > > > > > > consider> > > > > > > > > as most> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > 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ADHYAYA – VI

Sloka 1 : Ruchaka, Bhadra, Hamsa, Malava and Sasa are the five Yogas which are formed by the planets-Mars, Mercury Jupiter, Venus and Saturn respectively when each of them occupies a Kendra identical with its Swakshetra or Swochcha.

Sloka 2 : The person born in the Ruchaka Yoga will have a long face, will acquire wealth by doing many daring deeds, will be brave, will overcome his enemies, will be powerful and will be arrogant. He will become renowned for his merits, will be a leader of an army and will emerge victorious in all his attempts. The men born in the Bhadra Yoga will be gifted with long life and keen intellect, will be clean, praised by the learned, will lead men, will be very rich and clever in addressing an assembly.

Sloka 3 : The person born in Hamsa yoga will be a king extolled by the good. He will have in his legs and hands marks of Sankha, Padma, Matsya and Ankusha Rekhas. He will possesses a beautiful body, will eat sumptuous food and will be of righteous disposition. The man born in the Malavya Yoga will have strong limbs, will be resolute, wealthy, endowed with wife, children and good fortune, will be prosperous, will eat good meals, enjoy pleasures, command good vehicles, and will become famous and learned. He will possess unperturbed senses.

Sloka 4 : The person born in the Sasa Yoga will be extolled by all, will have good servants, will be strong, will be the headman of a village or a King, will be wicked in disposition, will have intrigues with women not his own, will usurp others' wealth and be happy. Just as these five yogas arise when reckoned from the Lagna, similarly they are possible when counted even from the Moon's place. They bestow on the native an empire and perfection. The person who happens to have one, two, three, four or all the five yogas will respectively be a (1) fortunate man, 920 one equal to a king, (3) a King, (4) and Emperor, and (5) one superior to No. 4.

Sloka 5 " When planets other than the Sun occupy the 2nd 12th or both houses reckoned from the Moon, the resulting 3 Yogas are respectively styled Sunapha, Anapha and Durudhara. In the absence of the 3 Yogas defined above, there is the Kemadruma Yoga. There are some who declare that there is no Kemadruma where a Kendra or the moon is associated with a planet, or where planets occupy a Kendra house reckoned from the Moon.

Sloka 6 : The person who has had his birth in the Sunapha Yoga will be a King or his equal; with self-acquired property, and renowned for his wisdom and wealth. The man born under the Anapha Yoga will be powerful; healthy, with amiable manners, known to fame, blessed with material comforts, will-dressed, counted and happy.

Sloka 7 : Taking freely to the joys of life as they crop up and blessed with abundance of wealth and vehicles, the person born under the Durudhura Yoga is bountiful and waited upon by faithful attendants. But those born under the Kemadruma Yoga, through they may be of a princely race, become obscure, miserable, given to base ways, penurious, drudging as menials and wickedly inclined.

Sloka 8 : If benefic planets other than the Moon occupy the 2nd, 10th and both the Bhavas from the Sun, the resulting Yogas are respectively termed Subhavesi, Subhavasi, and Subhobhayachari. But if the planets in question be malefic, the concerned Yogas are called Papavesi etc. When the 12th and the 2nd Bhavas from the Lagna are occupied by benefics, the Yoga is Subhakartari. It is called Papakartari, when the above two houses are occupied by malefics. If benefics unaspected by malefics occupy the 2nd Alouse from the Lagna, the Yoga is termed Susubha.

Sloka 9 : The person born in a Suvesi Yoga will be very handsome happy, a store of merit, brave, a King and virtuous. He who is born in Suvasi Yoga will become famous, will be liked by all, will be exceedingly prosperous, liberal and the favourite of the sovereign. The man who has his birth in the Subhayachari Yoga will have beautiful limbs, will be affable in address, will delight the world, will be eloquent in his speech, renowned and wealthy.

Sloka 10 The person born in the Asubhavesi Yoga will unjustly vilify others; lose his splendour beauty, will associate with the low and will be wicked. One who is born in an Asubhavasi Yoga will be deceitful, will abuse others and will be friend the wicked. He will be of unrighteous conduct; but will quote Sastras and Scriptures. The man with an Asubhobhayachari Yoga will be mentally much afflcted owing to public dishonour. He will be bereft of learning, wealth and luck.

Sloka 11 : The person who has his birth in a Subhakartari Yoga will be long-lived, fearless, free from disease, without enemies, happy and rich. He who is born in a Papakartari Yoga will be poor, impure, unhappy, bereft of wife and children, deprived of some limb and short-lived.

Sloka 12 : The person born in the Amala Yoga will be virtuous, pious kindly disposed, fortunate, amiable, highly revered by his sovereign, gentle, affable in his speech and wealthy.

Sloka 13 : In the case of Susubha, Subhakartari, Subhayesi and other Yogas the effects given for Sunapha and other Yogas caused by benefics should be adopted. In the case of Asubha, Papakartari, Papavesi and other Yogas caused by malefics, the effects will be just the contrary.

Sloka 14 : lf at a day-birth in the case of a male, the Sun, the Moon and the Lagna are in odd signs, the Mahabhagya Yoga is formed; The same Yoga in the case of females will arise when the birth is at night and the Sun, the Moon and the Lagna are posited in even signs. The Moon in a Kendra position to Jupiter brings on Kesari Yoga; The Moon in the 12th, 8th or 6th house from Jupiter causes if (Sakat ). But if the Moon be in a Kendra house from the Lagna, there is no Sakata. The Adhama Sarna and Varishtha Yogas are formed when the Moon occupies respectively a Kendra; a Panaphara and an ApokIima house counted from the Sun.

Sloka 15 : The person who has his birth in a Mahabhagya Yoga will cause immense pleasure to all people, by his mere appearance, win be very liberal in this gifts and be famous. He will be a ruler of the earth, living for 80 years and of a spotless character. If a female be born under this Yoga, she will be endowed with wealth, a long-lived husband, sons, and grandsons. She will be exceedingly lucky and well -behaved.

Sloka 16 : The person born in the Kesari Yoga will destroy, like a lion, all his enemies. He will speak loftily or nobly in an assembly. He will be passionate and emotional in his behavior. He will be long-lived, highly renowned and exceedingly intelligent. He will conquer everything by his own valor.

Sloka 17 : The person born in the Sakata Yoga will often become unfortunate (lose his luck), and may again regain what he once lost. He will be a very ordinary and insignificant man in the world. He will attain much mental grief that is inevitable and will be exceedingly unhappy.

Sloka 18 : According as the Yoga at birth is Kashta (Adhama), Madhyama (Sama), or vara (Varishtha) the wealth, vehicles, fame, happiness, knowledge, intellectual, precision, modesty, ability, learning, liberality and enjoyment of the person born will be at the lowest, middling or highest respectively.

Sloka 19 : If all the benefics occupy Upachaya houses whether reckoned from the Lagna or the Moon, the resulting Yoga is termed Vasumat. When benefics occupy the 10th house counted from the Lagna or the Moon, the Yoga is called Amala. If the lord of the Rasi occupied by the Moon is in conjunction with the lord of the Lagna and be posited in a Kendra or in the house of a very friendly planet and if at the same time a benefic planet possessing strength aspect the Lagna, the resulting Yoga is called Pushkala.

Sloka 20 : The person born in the if Vasumat Yoga will always keep to his house, and will command plenty of money. He who has his birth in the Amala Yoga will rule over the earth will be wealthy, will have sons, will be famous, prosperous and prudent. He who is born in the Pushkala Yoga will be wealthy, will be honoured by Kings, and become famous. He will be decorated with beautiful ornaments and clothes. He will be sweet tongued, supremely good and a lord.

Sloka 21 : If all the benefic planets in regular order occupy the 5th, 6th and 7th houses, the Yoga is called Suphamala. But if they should be posited in the 8th; 6th and 12th houses, it is called Asubhamala. If the lord of the 9th and Venus be posited in their own or exaltation houses identical with a Trikona or Kendra, the resulting Yoga is Lakshmi. If the Moon in the above position be aspected by Jupiter, the Yoga is Gouri.

Sloka 22 : The person born in a Sumala Yoga will be a governor (or director), will be extolled by Kings and will be devoted to enjoyment. He will be liberal in gifts, helpful to others in getting their work done, and will love his relations. He will be blessed with a good wife and sons and will be courageous.

Sloka 23 : He who is born in an Asubhamalika Yoga will resort to bad ways, will be unhappy, will tease-or kill others, will be ungrateful, will be timid, will have no reverence for Brahmins, will be cursed by the public and will be fond of (promoting) quarrels.

Sloka 24 : The person born in a Lakshmi Yoga will ever be sporting with a damsel of a very amiable disposition. He will be free from disease, will be wealthy and brilliant. He will protect all his people. He will be the recipient of blessings from the Goddess of wealth. He will go in beautiful palanquins or travel on horse back or seated on an elephant. He will be the best of Kings pleasing all his subjects and liberal in his gifts.

Sloka 25 : The person born in the Gouri will have a beautiful body, will come of an illustrious family, and will be a friend of the sovereign. His sons will be of a very good character. He will have a lotus-like face, and his success (over his opponents) will be praised by one and all.

Sloka 26 : If Venus, Jupiter, and Mercury occupy a Kendra, a Trikona or the second house, and Jupiter be also in his exaltation, his own or a friendly house and possess strength, the resulting Yoga is termed Saraswati.

Sloka 27 : The person who has his birth in the Saraswati Yoga is highly intelligent, clever in dramaturgy, in prose composition, versifying accounts and poetics. He is skilled in poetry, in narrative composition and in the exposition of sacred texts. His fame has spread over the three worlds. He is exceedingly wealthy, and is endowed with wife and children. He is fortunate, and commands respect from the best of kings.

Sloka 28 : If the lord of the Lagna, the Sun and the Moon, being in Kendra or Trikona occupy their exaltation, own or friendly houses, the resulting Yoga is termed Srikanta. If Venus, the lord of the 9th and Mercury be similarly placed, the Yoga is called Srinatha. If Jupiter, the lord of the 5th and Saturn occupy similar positions, the Yoga formed is called Virinchi.

Sloka 29 : The person born in the Srikantha Yoga will be decked with Rudraksha rosaries with his body made white by the besmearing of the sacred ashes. He will be magnanimous and will be always meditating at heart on God Siva. He will rigidly observe prescribed rites and will consecrate himself to the worship of God Siva. He will help the virtuous. He will be free from malice towards the creed or religious beliefs of others. He will become powerful and his heart will become delighted by the worship of God Siva.

Sloka 30 : The person born in the Srinatha Yoga will be wealthy, resplendent and clever in speaking agreeably and in a humorous vein. He will have (in his body) marks of God Narayana (such as Sankha, Chakra, etc.) He will be always reciting in company with the virtues the charming verses adorning the name of that God. He feels very happy in showing reverence towards those that worship that God. He will be endowed with a good wife and sons. He will be loved by all and will be exceedingly amiable.

Sloka 31 : The person born in the Virinchi Yoga will be fully absorbed ub the knowledge of Brahma. He will be highly intelligent and will assign a predominant position to the Vedas over other sacred writing. He will be endowed with all good qualities and will be always glad at heart. He will not swerve in any way from the course of conduct prescribed in the Vedas. He will have a good number of distinguished disciples. He will be gentle in his speech and will posses much wealth, wife and sons. He will shine with spiritual luster. He will live long and have his senses under control and will be saluted by Kings.

Sloka 32 : When two planets each owning a Bhava mutually interchange places, i.e., each occupy the other's house, the action is termed Parivartana and there are 66 such interchanges caused by the several pairs of Bhava-Iords beginning from the Lagna and ending with the 12th. Out of these 30 are caused by the lords of the 6th, 8th and 12th and are termed Dainya Yogas; and 8 are caused By the lord of the 3rd; thus:-

The lord of the 12th occupying anyone of other 11 houses arid the lord of this latter house occupying the 12th …… ………. ……… ……… …… 11

The lord of the 6th occupying anyone of the remaining 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 houses and the lord of this occupying the 6th ……… ……….. 10

The lord of the 8th occupying anyone of the remaining 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this occupying the 8th ………. ………… 9

The lord of the 3rd occupying anyone of the remaining 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this occupying the 3rd ……….. ……… …… 8

The thirty yogas under Paras 1, 2 and 3 are termed yogas.

These last 8 are called Khala Yogas remaining 28 are termed Maha Yogas.

The Mahayogas are formed thus:

The lord of the Lagna occupying anyone of the remaining 2, 4, ,5, 7, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this house occupying the Lagna ……… ……. …… 7

The lord of the 2nd home occupying anyone of the remaining 6 houses, viz, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10 and 11 and the lord of this latter occupying the 2nd ………. ….. 6

The lord of the 4th house occupying any one of 5, 7, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this occupying the 4th ………. ………. ……….. ………. 5

The lord of the 5th house occupying anyone of 7, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this occupying the 5th ………… ………. ………. ………. 4

The lord of the 7th occupying anyone of 9, 10, and 11 and the lord of this occupying the 7th ………….. ………. ………… ………. 3

The lord of the 9th occupying the lath or 11th house and the lord of this occupying the 9th ……….. ………. ………… ……….. ……….. 2

The lord of 10th occupying the 11th and vice versa ………… ………. 1

Total

28

Sloka 33 : The man born in a Dainya Yoga will be a fool, will be reviling others and commit sinful actions. He will always be tormented by his enemies, will speak woundingly and will be unsteady in mind. Interruptions will arise to all his under takings. The man born in the Kala Yoga will, be occasionally haughty and at times, gentle in speech. Occasionally he will regain all kinds of prosperity, while at other times he will have to endure much distress, poverty; misery and the like.

Sloka 34 : The person born in a Maha Yoga will be the repository of the blessings of the Goddess Sri and will be a wealthy lord. He will wear clothes of variegated colour and bedeck himself with gold ornaments. He will receive rich presents from his sovereign and certain powers (authority) also will be conferred on him. He will command vehicles, wealth and children.

Sloka 35 : Find where the lord of the Rasi occupied by the lord of the Lagna is posited. If the lord of this Rasi be in his exaltation or own sign identical with a Kona or Kendra, the Yoga is called Kahala. If the lord of the sign occupied by the lord of the Lagna be similarly situated: the resulting Yoga is termed Parvata.

Sloka 36 : He who is born in the Kahala Yoga will thrive well, will be noble, benevolent, kind and propitious. He will be respected by other men. The person who is born in the Parvata Yoga will have everlasting wealth and happiness. He will do acts causing eternal benefit. He will become the lord of the Earth.

Sloka 37 : If the lords of the 9th and 10th houses occupy in conjunction an auspicious Bhava, it constitutes Raja Yoga. If the lords of a Kendra and a Kona be similarly, placed, i.e., be in conjunction in an auspicious Bhava, the resulting Yoga is called Sankha.

Sloka 38 : The person who has his birth in a Raja Yoga will be a King who (when he set out) will 'be' accompanied by elephants, horses, litters, palanquins and the like, the roaring of kettle drums and the sounds of the conch shell, with a circular umbrella made of soft woven cloth held over him, praised by bards and minstrels and solicited by eminent men with various kinds of presents in their hands. The person born in Sankha Yoga will enjoy all comforts in the company of many beautiful damsels.

Sloka 39 : Vallaki or Veena, Dama, Pasa, Kedara, Sula, Yuga and Gola are the seven Sankhya (numerical) Yogas respectively produced by the seven planets occupying as many Rasis as are denoted by the seven figures commencing from seven and diminishing successively by one i.e., by the numbers 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1. These Sankhya Yogas are also to be considered besides those mentioned previously.

Sloka 40 : The person born in the Veena Yoga will e fond of dancing and music and will be wealthy. The man born in the Dama Yoga will be very liberal, a King and a benefactor. The person whose birth takes place in the Pasa Yoga will be opulent, devoted to enjoyment, and have good conduct and relatives. The man who has the Kedara Yoga in his nativity will be endowed with wealth and agricultural lands.

Sloka 41 : The person born in the Sula Yoga will be cruel, of an angry temperament, and indigent. The man whose birth is in the Yuga will be heretical and without wealth. He who is born in the Gola Yoga will be without wealth, will commit sinful deeds, and associate with low people. He will be a bad artisan, indolent and short lived.

Sloka 42 : When benefic planets occupy the 7th, the 6th and the 8th places reckoned from the Moon or the Lagna, there results what is called the Adhiyoga wherein takes place the birth of a commander (Police Superintendent or a head), a minister or a ruler (of a District or Province) respectively. He who is born in the Adhiyoga becomes famous, prosperous, wealthy, long-lived and high-souled.

Sloka 43 : The person born in the Adhiyoga will become the lord of men, will be wealthy throughout life (have everlasting wealth), will feed many of his relations, will overthrow his enemies, enjoy long life and become widely renowned.

Sloka 44 : Bhavas being occupied or aspected by benefics, their lords occupying good houses or being brilliant and their exaltation or Swakshetra, constitute certain Yogas and there are 12 such for the 12 Bhavas from the Lagna onwards. These are respectively termed as (1) Chamara, (2) Dhenu (3) Saurya, (4) Jaladhi, (5) Chhatra, (6) Astra, (7) Kama, (8) Asura, (9) Bhagya, (10) Khyati, (11) Suparijita and (12) Musala.

Sloka 45 : The person born In the Chamara yoga will every day be growing in importance like the waxing Moon and will be of a virtuous disposition. He will become famous, a leader of men, long-lived and a store-house of prosperity.

Sloka 46 : The person born in the Dhenu Yoga will command good food, drink, etc. He will De wealth. He will have a very good education all round. He will be blessed with a large family. He will have in plenty gold, gems, wealth, corn, etc., and he will shine like God Kubera.

Sloka 47 : Praised by his younger brothers :who have them elves attained glory, and endowed with valour that commands the admiration of others, the person born in the Saurya Yoga will shine like. Sri Rama: fully engrossed in State affairs, (fondled) loved by every body and exceedingly famous.

Sloka 48 : The person born in the Jaladhi or Ambudhi Yoga will be rich in cattle, wealth and corn, will have a beautiful mansion full of relations, an excellent wife, gems, clothes and ornaments. Further, he will hold a respectable and high position. His happiness will be steady and lasting. He will travel on elephants, horses and vehicles. He will be honoured by Kings. He will eagerly engage himself in doing work for Brahmins and the Gods and in sinking wells and tanks by the road side.

Sloka 49 : The person born in the Chhatra Yoga will be blessed with a happy family life and children. He will be the abode of wealth, renowned of good speech and learned. He will become a minister to a King. He will be keen-witted and respected by others.

Sloka 50 : The person who has his birth in the Astra Yoga will forcibly subdue his very powerful foes. He will be rough in his behaviour and arrogant. He will have bruised limbs, but will possess a strong body. He will be quarrelsome.

Sloka 51-The person born in the Kama Yoga will not even cast a look at others wives. He will be blessed with an excellent wife, children and relations. With his good qualities, he will shine better than his father, and he will attain to very great prosperity.

Sloka 52 : The Man born in the Asura Yoga will spoil others work and will become a talebearer. He will be intent on securing his own interests. He will be poor and have forbidden cravings. He will do mean acts and be troubled by the effects of his own disastrous doings.

Sloka 53 : He who has his birth in the Bhagya Yoga will move in a palanquin (in the midst) full of sounds caused by musical instruments and with chowries waving to and fro. He will have everlasting wealth, will be saluted by eminent men, and will always pursue a righteous course of conduct. He will, please his manes, Gods and the host of Brahmins by worshipping them in the most appropriate way possible, will follow the righteous conduct, make his family illustrious and will have an affectionate disposition

September 30, 2009

Dear Sunilnair ji,thank you very much for the effort....Love and regards,gopi , "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> This is yoga phala adhyaya> > http://www.astrojyoti.com/phaladeepika3.htm> > > > ADHYAYA – VI> > Sloka 1 : Ruchaka, Bhadra, Hamsa, Malava and Sasa are the five> Yogas which are formed by the planets-Mars, Mercury Jupiter,> Venus and Saturn respectively when each of them > occupies a Kendra identical with its Swakshetra or Swochcha.> > Sloka 2 : The person born in the Ruchaka Yoga will have a long> face, will acquire wealth by doing many daring deeds, will be> brave, will overcome his enemies, will be powerful and will be> arrogant. He will become renowned for his merits, will be a> leader of an army and will emerge victorious in all his> attempts. The men born in the Bhadra Yoga will be gifted with> long life and keen intellect, will be clean, praised > by the learned, will lead men, will be very rich and clever in> addressing an assembly.> > Sloka 3 : The person born in Hamsa yoga will be a king> extolled by the good. He will have in his legs and hands marks> of Sankha, Padma, Matsya and Ankusha Rekhas. He will possesses> a beautiful body, will eat sumptuous food and will be of> righteous disposition. The man born in the Malavya Yoga will> have strong limbs, will be resolute, wealthy, > endowed with wife, children and good fortune, will be> prosperous, will eat good meals, enjoy pleasures, command good> vehicles, and will become famous and learned. He will possess> unperturbed senses.> > Sloka 4 : The person born in the Sasa Yoga will be extolled by> all, will have good servants, will be strong, will be the> headman of a village or a King, will be wicked in disposition,> will have intrigues with women not his own, will usurp> others' wealth and be happy. Just as these five > yogas arise when reckoned from the Lagna, similarly they are> possible when counted even from the Moon's place. They> bestow on the native an empire and perfection. The > person who happens to have one, two, three, four or all the> five yogas will respectively be a (1) fortunate man, 920 one> equal to a king, (3) a King, (4) and Emperor, and (5)> one superior to No. 4.> > Sloka 5 " When planets other than the Sun occupy the 2nd> 12th or both houses reckoned from the Moon, the resulting 3> Yogas are respectively styled Sunapha, Anapha and > Durudhara. In the absence of the 3 Yogas defined above, there> is the Kemadruma Yoga. There are some who declare that there> is no Kemadruma where a Kendra or the moon is > associated with a planet, or where planets occupy a Kendra> house reckoned from the Moon.> > Sloka 6 : The person who has had his birth in the Sunapha Yoga> will be a King or his equal; with self-acquired property, and> renowned for his wisdom and wealth. The man born under the> Anapha Yoga will be powerful; healthy, with amiable manners,> known to fame, blessed with material comforts, > will-dressed, counted and happy.> > Sloka 7 : Taking freely to the joys of life as they crop up> and blessed with abundance of wealth and vehicles, the person> born under the Durudhura Yoga is bountiful and > waited upon by faithful attendants. But those born under the> Kemadruma Yoga, through they may be of a princely race, become> obscure, miserable, given to base ways, penurious, drudging as> menials and wickedly inclined.> > Sloka 8 : If benefic planets other than the Moon occupy the> 2nd, 10th and both the Bhavas from the Sun, the resulting> Yogas are respectively termed Subhavesi, Subhavasi, > and Subhobhayachari. But if the planets in question be> malefic, the concerned Yogas are called Papavesi etc. When the> 12th and the 2nd Bhavas from the Lagna are occupied by> benefics, the Yoga is Subhakartari. It is called Papakartari,> when the above two houses are occupied by malefics. If> benefics unaspected by malefics occupy the 2nd Alouse> from the Lagna, the Yoga is termed Susubha.> > Sloka 9 : The person born in a Suvesi Yoga will be very> handsome happy, a store of merit, brave, a King and virtuous.> He who is born in Suvasi Yoga will become famous, will> be liked by all, will be exceedingly prosperous, liberal and> the favourite of the sovereign. The man who has his birth in> the Subhayachari Yoga will have beautiful limbs, > will be affable in address, will delight the world, will be> eloquent in his speech, renowned and wealthy.> > Sloka 10 The person born in the Asubhavesi Yoga will unjustly> vilify others; lose his splendour beauty, will associate with> the low and will be wicked. One who is born in an> Asubhavasi Yoga will be deceitful, will abuse others and will> be friend the wicked. He will be of unrighteous conduct; but> will quote Sastras and Scriptures. The man with an> Asubhobhayachari Yoga will be mentally much afflcted owing to> public dishonour. He will be bereft of learning, wealth and> luck.> > Sloka 11 : The person who has his birth in a Subhakartari Yoga> will be long-lived, fearless, free from disease, without> enemies, happy and rich. He who is born in a Papakartari Yoga> will be poor, impure, unhappy, bereft of wife and children,> deprived of some limb and short-lived.> > Sloka 12 : The person born in the Amala Yoga will be virtuous,> pious kindly disposed, fortunate, amiable, highly revered by> his sovereign, gentle, affable in his speech and > wealthy.> > Sloka 13 : In the case of Susubha, Subhakartari, Subhayesi and> other Yogas the effects given for Sunapha and other Yogas> caused by benefics should be adopted. In the case of Asubha,> Papakartari, Papavesi and other Yogas caused by malefics, the> effects will be just the contrary.> > Sloka 14 : lf at a day-birth in the case of a male, the Sun,> the Moon and the Lagna are in odd signs, the Mahabhagya Yoga> is formed; The same Yoga in the case of females will > arise when the birth is at night and the Sun, the Moon and the> Lagna are posited in even signs. The Moon in a Kendra position> to Jupiter brings on Kesari Yoga; The Moon in the> 12th, 8th or 6th house from Jupiter causes if (Sakat ). But if> the Moon be in a Kendra house from the Lagna, there is no> Sakata. The Adhama Sarna and Varishtha Yogas are formed when> the Moon occupies respectively a Kendra; a Panaphara and an> ApokIima house counted from the Sun.> > Sloka 15 : The person who has his birth in a Mahabhagya Yoga> will cause immense pleasure to all people, by his mere> appearance, win be very liberal in this gifts and be famous.> He will be a ruler of the earth, living for 80 years and of a> spotless character. If a female be born under this Yoga, she> will be endowed with wealth, a long-lived husband, > sons, and grandsons. She will be exceedingly lucky and well> -behaved.> > Sloka 16 : The person born in the Kesari Yoga will destroy,> like a lion, all his enemies. He will speak loftily or nobly> in an assembly. He will be passionate and emotional> in his behavior. He will be long-lived, highly renowned and> exceedingly intelligent. He will conquer everything by> his own valor.> > Sloka 17 : The person born in the Sakata Yoga will often> become unfortunate (lose his luck), and may again regain what> he once lost. He will be a very ordinary and > insignificant man in the world. He will attain much mental> grief that is inevitable and will be exceedingly unhappy.> > Sloka 18 : According as the Yoga at birth is Kashta (Adhama),> Madhyama (Sama), or vara (Varishtha) the wealth, vehicles,> fame, happiness, knowledge, intellectual, precision, modesty,> ability, learning, liberality and enjoyment of the person born> will be at the lowest, middling or highest respectively.> > Sloka 19 : If all the benefics occupy Upachaya houses whether> reckoned from the Lagna or the Moon, the resulting Yoga is> termed Vasumat. When benefics occupy the 10th house counted> from the Lagna or the Moon, the Yoga is called Amala. If the> lord of the Rasi occupied by the Moon is in > conjunction with the lord of the Lagna and be posited in a> Kendra or in the house of a very friendly planet and if at the> same time a benefic planet possessing strength aspect> the Lagna, the resulting Yoga is called Pushkala.> > Sloka 20 : The person born in the if Vasumat Yoga will always> keep to his house, and will command plenty of money. He who> has his birth in the Amala Yoga will rule over the> earth will be wealthy, will have sons, will be famous,> prosperous and prudent. He who is born in the Pushkala Yoga> will be wealthy, will be honoured by Kings, and > become famous. He will be decorated with beautiful ornaments> and clothes. He will be sweet tongued, supremely good and a> lord.> > Sloka 21 : If all the benefic planets in regular order occupy> the 5th, 6th and 7th houses, the Yoga is called Suphamala. But> if they should be posited in the 8th; 6th and 12th> houses, it is called Asubhamala. If the lord of the 9th and> Venus be posited in their own or exaltation houses identical> with a Trikona or Kendra, the resulting Yoga is Lakshmi. If> the Moon in the above position be aspected by Jupiter, the> Yoga is Gouri.> > Sloka 22 : The person born in a Sumala Yoga will be a governor> (or director), will be extolled by Kings and will be devoted> to enjoyment. He will be liberal in gifts, helpful> to others in getting their work done, and will love his> relations. He will be blessed with a good wife and sons and> will be courageous.> > Sloka 23 : He who is born in an Asubhamalika Yoga will resort> to bad ways, will be unhappy, will tease-or kill others, will> be ungrateful, will be timid, will have no reverence> for Brahmins, will be cursed by the public and will be fond of> (promoting) quarrels.> > Sloka 24 : The person born in a Lakshmi Yoga will ever be> sporting with a damsel of a very amiable disposition. He will> be free from disease, will be wealthy and brilliant. > He will protect all his people. He will be the recipient of> blessings from the Goddess of wealth. He will go in beautiful> palanquins or travel on horse back or seated on an elephant.> He will be the best of Kings pleasing all his subjects and> liberal in his gifts.> > Sloka 25 : The person born in the Gouri will have a beautiful> body, will come of an illustrious family, and will be a friend> of the sovereign. His sons will be of a very good> character. He will have a lotus-like face, and his success> (over his opponents) will be praised by one and all.> > Sloka 26 : If Venus, Jupiter, and Mercury occupy a Kendra, a> Trikona or the second house, and Jupiter be also in his> exaltation, his own or a friendly house and possess strength,> the resulting Yoga is termed Saraswati.> > Sloka 27 : The person who has his birth in the Saraswati Yoga> is highly intelligent, clever in dramaturgy, in prose> composition, versifying accounts and poetics. He is > skilled in poetry, in narrative composition and in the> exposition of sacred texts. His fame has spread over the three> worlds. He is exceedingly wealthy, and is endowed with> wife and children. He is fortunate, and commands respect from> the best of kings.> > Sloka 28 : If the lord of the Lagna, the Sun and the Moon,> being in Kendra or Trikona occupy their exaltation, own or> friendly houses, the resulting Yoga is termed > Srikanta. If Venus, the lord of the 9th and Mercury be> similarly placed, the Yoga is called Srinatha. If Jupiter, the> lord of the 5th and Saturn occupy similar positions, the> Yoga formed is called Virinchi.> > Sloka 29 : The person born in the Srikantha Yoga will be> decked with Rudraksha rosaries with his body made white by the> besmearing of the sacred ashes. He will be magnanimous> and will be always meditating at heart on God Siva. He will> rigidly observe prescribed rites and will consecrate himself> to the worship of God Siva. He will help the > virtuous. He will be free from malice towards the creed or> religious beliefs of others. He will become powerful and his> heart will become delighted by the worship of God Siva.> > Sloka 30 : The person born in the Srinatha Yoga will be> wealthy, resplendent and clever in speaking agreeably and in a> humorous vein. He will have (in his body) marks of > God Narayana (such as Sankha, Chakra, etc.) He will be always> reciting in company with the virtues the charming verses> adorning the name of that God. He feels very happy in> showing reverence towards those that worship that God. He will> be endowed with a good wife and sons. He will be loved by all> and will be exceedingly amiable.> > Sloka 31 : The person born in the Virinchi Yoga will be fully> absorbed ub the knowledge of Brahma. He will be highly> intelligent and will assign a predominant position to the> Vedas over other sacred writing. He will be endowed with all> good qualities and will be always glad at heart. He will not> swerve in any way from the course of conduct > prescribed in the Vedas. He will have a good number of> distinguished disciples. He will be gentle in his speech and> will posses much wealth, wife and sons. He will shine with> spiritual luster. He will live long and have his senses under> control and will be saluted by Kings.> > Sloka 32 : When two planets each owning a Bhava mutually> interchange places, i.e., each occupy the other's house, the> action is termed Parivartana and there are 66 such > interchanges caused by the several pairs of Bhava-Iords> beginning from the Lagna and ending with the 12th. Out of> these 30 are caused by the lords of the 6th, 8th and 12th> and are termed Dainya Yogas; and 8 are caused By the lord of> the 3rd; thus:-> > The lord of the 12th occupying anyone of other 11 houses arid> the lord of this latter house occupying the 12th ……> ………. ……… ……… …… 11> > The lord of the 6th occupying anyone of the remaining 1, 2, 3,> 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 houses and the lord of this> occupying the 6th ……… ……….. 10> > The lord of the 8th occupying anyone of the remaining 1, 2, 3,> 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this> occupying the 8th ………. ………… 9> > The lord of the 3rd occupying anyone of the remaining 1, 2, 4,> 5, 7, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this occupying the> 3rd ……….. ……… …… 8> > The thirty yogas under Paras 1, 2 and 3 are termed yogas.> > These last 8 are called Khala Yogas remaining 28 are termed> Maha Yogas.> > The Mahayogas are formed thus:> > The lord of the Lagna occupying anyone of the remaining 2, 4,> ,5, 7, 9, 10 and 11 houses and the lord of this house> occupying the Lagna ……… ……. …… 7> > The lord of the 2nd home occupying anyone of the remaining 6> houses, viz, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10 and 11 and the lord of this latter> occupying the 2nd ………. ….. 6> > The lord of the 4th house occupying any one of 5, 7, 9, 10 and> 11 houses and the lord of this occupying the 4th ……….> ………. ……….. ………. 5> > The lord of the 5th house occupying anyone of 7, 9, 10 and 11> houses and the lord of this occupying the 5th …………> ………. ………. ………. 4> > The lord of the 7th occupying anyone of 9, 10, and 11 and the> lord of this occupying the 7th ………….. ……….> ………… ………. 3> > The lord of the 9th occupying the lath or 11th house and the> lord of this occupying the 9th ……….. ……….> ………… ……….. ……….. 2> > The lord of 10th occupying the 11th and vice versa …………> ………. 1> Total 28> > Sloka 33 : The man born in a Dainya Yoga will be a fool, will> be reviling others and commit sinful actions. He will always> be tormented by his enemies, will speak woundingly> and will be unsteady in mind. Interruptions will arise to all> his under takings. The man born in the Kala Yoga will,> be occasionally haughty and at times, gentle in speech.> Occasionally he will regain all kinds of prosperity, while at> other times he will have to endure much distress, poverty;> misery and the like.> > Sloka 34 : The person born in a Maha Yoga will be the> repository of the blessings of the Goddess Sri and will be a> wealthy lord. He will wear clothes of variegated colour> and bedeck himself with gold ornaments. He will receive rich> presents from his sovereign and certain powers (authority)> also will be conferred on him. He will command vehicles,> wealth and children.> > Sloka 35 : Find where the lord of the Rasi occupied by the> lord of the Lagna is posited. If the lord of this Rasi be in> his exaltation or own sign identical with a Kona or> Kendra, the Yoga is called Kahala. If the lord of the sign> occupied by the lord of the Lagna be similarly situated: the> resulting Yoga is termed Parvata.> > Sloka 36 : He who is born in the Kahala Yoga will thrive well,> will be noble, benevolent, kind and propitious. He will be> respected by other men. The person who is born in the> Parvata Yoga will have everlasting wealth and happiness. He> will do acts causing eternal benefit. He will become the lord> of the Earth.> > Sloka 37 : If the lords of the 9th and 10th houses occupy in> conjunction an auspicious Bhava, it constitutes Raja Yoga. If> the lords of a Kendra and a Kona be similarly, > placed, i.e., be in conjunction in an auspicious Bhava, the> resulting Yoga is called Sankha.> > Sloka 38 : The person who has his birth in a Raja Yoga will be> a King who (when he set out) will 'be' accompanied by> elephants, horses, litters, palanquins and the like, > the roaring of kettle drums and the sounds of the conch shell,> with a circular umbrella made of soft woven cloth held over> him, praised by bards and minstrels and solicited by> eminent men with various kinds of presents in their hands. The> person born in Sankha Yoga will enjoy all comforts in the> company of many beautiful damsels.> > Sloka 39 : Vallaki or Veena, Dama, Pasa, Kedara, Sula, Yuga> and Gola are the seven Sankhya (numerical) Yogas respectively> produced by the seven planets occupying as many Rasis as are> denoted by the seven figures commencing from seven and> diminishing successively by one i.e., by the numbers 7, 6, 5,> 4, 3, 2 and 1. These Sankhya Yogas are also to be considered> besides those mentioned previously.> > Sloka 40 : The person born in the Veena Yoga will e fond of> dancing and music and will be wealthy. The man born in the> Dama Yoga will be very liberal, a King and a benefactor.> The person whose birth takes place in the Pasa Yoga will be> opulent, devoted to enjoyment, and have good conduct and> relatives. The man who has the Kedara Yoga in his nativity> will be endowed with wealth and agricultural lands.> > Sloka 41 : The person born in the Sula Yoga will be cruel, of> an angry temperament, and indigent. The man whose birth is in> the Yuga will be heretical and without wealth. He> who is born in the Gola Yoga will be without wealth, will> commit sinful deeds, and associate with low people. He will be> a bad artisan, indolent and short lived.> > Sloka 42 : When benefic planets occupy the 7th, the 6th and> the 8th places reckoned from the Moon or the Lagna, there> results what is called the Adhiyoga wherein takes > place the birth of a commander (Police Superintendent or a> head), a minister or a ruler (of a District or Province)> respectively. He who is born in the Adhiyoga becomes famous,> prosperous, wealthy, long-lived and high-souled.> > Sloka 43 : The person born in the Adhiyoga will become the> lord of men, will be wealthy throughout life (have everlasting> wealth), will feed many of his relations, will > overthrow his enemies, enjoy long life and become widely> renowned.> > Sloka 44 : Bhavas being occupied or aspected by benefics,> their lords occupying good houses or being brilliant and their> exaltation or Swakshetra, constitute certain Yogas and there> are 12 such for the 12 Bhavas from the Lagna onwards. These> are respectively termed as (1) Chamara, (2) Dhenu> (3) Saurya, (4) Jaladhi, (5) Chhatra, (6) Astra, (7) Kama, (8)> Asura, (9) Bhagya, (10) Khyati, (11) Suparijita and (12)> Musala.> > Sloka 45 : The person born In the Chamara yoga will every day> be growing in importance like the waxing Moon and will be> of a virtuous disposition. He will become famous, a leader of> men, long-lived and a store-house of prosperity.> > Sloka 46 : The person born in the Dhenu Yoga will command good> food, drink, etc. He will De wealth. He will have a very good> education all round. He will be blessed with a large family.> He will have in plenty gold, gems, wealth, corn, etc., and he> will shine like God Kubera.> > Sloka 47 : Praised by his younger brothers :who have them> elves attained glory, and endowed with valour that commands> the admiration of others, the person born in the > Saurya Yoga will shine like. Sri Rama: fully engrossed in> State affairs, (fondled) loved by every body and exceedingly> famous.> > Sloka 48 : The person born in the Jaladhi or Ambudhi Yoga will> be rich in cattle, wealth and corn, will have a beautiful> mansion full of relations, an excellent wife, gems, > clothes and ornaments. Further, he will hold a respectable and> high position. His happiness will be steady and lasting. He> will travel on elephants, horses and vehicles. He will be> honoured by Kings. He will eagerly engage himself in doing> work for Brahmins and the Gods and in sinking wells> and tanks by the road side.> > Sloka 49 : The person born in the Chhatra Yoga will be blessed> with a happy family life and children. He will be the abode of> wealth, renowned of good speech and learned. He will become a> minister to a King. He will be keen-witted and respected> by others.> > Sloka 50 : The person who has his birth in the Astra Yoga will> forcibly subdue his very powerful foes. He will be rough in> his behaviour and arrogant. He will have bruised limbs, but> will possess a strong body. He will be quarrelsome.> > Sloka 51-The person born in the Kama Yoga will not even cast a> look at others wives. He will be blessed with an excellent> wife, children and relations. With his good > qualities, he will shine better than his father, and he will> attain to very great prosperity.> > Sloka 52 : The Man born in the Asura Yoga will spoil others> work and will become a talebearer. He will be intent on> securing his own interests. He will be poor and have > forbidden cravings. He will do mean acts and be troubled by> the effects of his own disastrous doings.> > Sloka 53 : He who has his birth in the Bhagya Yoga will move> in a palanquin (in the midst) full of sounds caused by musical> instruments and with chowries waving to and fro. He will have> everlasting wealth, will be saluted by eminent men, and will> always pursue a righteous course of conduct. He > will, please his manes, Gods and the host of Brahmins by> worshipping them in the most appropriate way possible, will> follow the righteous conduct, make his family > illustrious and will have an affectionate disposition.> > Sloka 54 : The person born in the Khyati Yoga will become a> King who will protect his good subjects by following a course> of conduct approved by all. He will be blessed with> sons, friends, wife and wealth, and will be prosperous and> widely renowned.> > Sloka 55 : The person born in the Parijata Yoga will always be> in the midst of festivities (or auspicious ceremonies), will> become a, King will become the lord of much hoarded wealth,> will own a large family, will be intent on hearing stories of> great people, will be learned and doing something > auspicious.> > Sloka 56 : The man born in the Musala Yoga will become the> owner of wealth earned with much difficulty; he will suffer> humiliation; his wealth will be unsteady; he will spend> money only for legitimate purposes. After his demise he will> certainly attain heaven; he will be foolish and fickle-minded.> > Sloka 57 : If the lords of the several Bhavas from the Lagna> onwards occupy the 6th, 8th or 12th or if the Bhavas be> associated with or aspected by malefics, 12 kinds of Yogas are> declared to arise for the 12 Bhavas from the Lagna. They are> in their order :(1) Avayoga, (2) Nisswayoga, (3) > Mritiyoga, (4) Kuhuyoga, (5) Pamarayoga, (6) Harshayoga, (7)> Dushkritiyoga, (8) Saralayoga, (9) Nirbhagyayoga, (10)> Duryoga, (11) Daridrayoga, and (12) Vimalayoga.> > Sloka 58 : The man born in an Avayoga will be insignificant.> He will suffer from extreme poverty and will be short-lived.> He will be humiliated, he will associate with the> wicked, will be of bad behaviour and will be deformed. is> position itself will be shaky.> > Sloka 59 : The person born in Nisswa yoga will be devoid of> good (kind) words, will have a barren wife, will be in the> midst of bad associates will have bad teeth and eyes;> he will be wanting in intelligence, will have no children,> will have no learning, and no power. He will be robbed of his> wealth, by his enemies.> > Sloka 60 : The person who has his birth in a Mriti Yoga win be> vanquished by his enemies, will have no brothers, will be> devoid of shame, strength and wealth, overcome by > fatigue caused by doing improper acts and will be of an> excited temperament.> > Sloka 61 : The man born in a KuhuYoga will be bereft of> mother, vehicles, friends, happiness, ornaments and relations,> will be without a situation or house having lost the > one already got, and will be attached to a low female.> > Sloka 62 : He who is born in a Pamara Yoga will have a> miserable living and will be indiscriminate. He will be a liar> and a cheat. He will lose children or will have no > issue at all. He will resort to low and wicked people. He will> be an atheist and a glutton.> > Sloka 63 : The person born in Harsha Yoga will be endowed with> happiness, enjoyment, good fortune, and a strong constitution,> will over come his enemies, and will be afraid to commit> sinful acts he will become a friend of illustrious and> prominent people. He will have wealth, splendour, > friends fame and son.> > SIoka 64 : The man born in a Dushkriti Yoga will lose his> wife, and be addicted to others wives, will be roaming on the> roads unperceived, will suffer from gonorrhea and > such other venereal diseases, and trouble from the sovereign.> He will be despised by his relations and suffer distress as a> result thereof.> > Sloka 65 ; He who is born in a Sarala Yoga will be long-lived> resolute, fearless, prosperous, and will be endowed with> learning, children and riches. He will achieve success in his> undertakings, overcome his foes, be pure and widely > celebrated.> > Sloka 66 : The person born in Nirbhagya Yoga will lose all his> paternal property such as lands, house, etc., he will despise> the good, and elders and will be irreligious. He will wear old> and worn-out clothes, will be indigent and reduced to> great misery.> > Sloka 67 : The effect of a person's birth in Duryoga will be> that anything done by his own bodily labour becomes fruitless.> He will be insignificant in the eyes of the public. > He will be a traitor to the people, will be highly selfish,> and caring to feed his own belly. He will be constantly,> absent from home and living abroad.> > Sloka 68 : He who is born in Daridra Yoga will be loaded with> debts, cruel, foremost among the poor, will suffer from> ear-troubles, will be devoid of good brotherhood, will> entangle himself in criminal or sinful actions, will speak> indecently and will be a menial to others.> > Sloka 69 : The person born in a Vimala Yoga will spend little> and save much money. He will be good to every body. He will be> happy and independent and will have a respectable > profession or conduct and be renowned for his good qualities.> > Sloka 70 : If the lords of the 8th, 6th and 12th houses occupy> in strength Kendra' or Trikona houses and the lords of the> 1st, 10th, 4th and 9th houses be weak or eclipsed > and be posited in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses, the result is> Duryoga. But if the above position be reverse, i.e., the lords> of the 8th, 6th and 12th being weak or eclipsed occupy those> houses, and the lords of the 1st, 4th, 9th and 10th houses> being strong occupy Kendra or Kona houses, the > person concerned will be a King fortunate, wealthy, happy and> virtuously disposed.> > Thus ends the 6th Adhyaya on "Yogas in the work Phaladeepika> composed by Mantreswara.>

October 1, 2009

Pranams,Mr.SunilNairji,Sloka32 explain about Parivartana yoga alone.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Wed, 30/9/09, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala Re: Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.-in phaladeepika Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 11:56 AM

Dear Gopi ji and dhananjayan ji i am seeing the phaladeepika translation http://www.astrojyo ti.com/phaladeep ika3..htmNow where i find such a dictum in capter 6 i am copying it here too i will post as diffrnt mail rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Dhananjayan ji,> pranams.Your name sounds and sugests that you have/had victory over> wealth.Pl corect me if i am wrong about the meaning.This is what sri> krishna addressed Arjuna in Geetha many a time.Nice name.> Regarding the sloka the dictum works only when the exchange takes place> is my humble opinion.> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology,

Dhananjayan Brahma> abhanaya@ wrote:> >> > Pranams,> > Mr.SunilNairji & Mr.Vijay Goel ji,> >> > I think Ch.6 sloka 32 of Phaladeepika is not in contrast to the under> noted adage> >> > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.> > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.> > [if Jupiter and Saturn are exchanging their signs , Saturn> > Ã‚ will do Viridhi to bhava and Jupiter will harm the Bhava].> > I think the former hasten to explain the theme pertaining to> Bava-lords and the latter pertains to the theme of planetary effects on> the houses they are posited.> > An astrologer should evaluate both the effects and focus his> predictions on given contingency .> >> > I can not explain beyond the above,but some one who caught my points> could argue / present it in

a better way.> >> > Regards/Dhananjayan> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- On Wed, 30/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana> Vriddi karo Sani.> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 12:31 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ã‚> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Vijay Goel Ji> >> > Thanks for this supposed full shloka> >> > when ever there was a discussion on this ADAGE all this yrsÃ‚ in> all forums of and when ever it appeared it i also challenged it> was

alwys quoted was in theÃ‚ form of lastÃ‚ line (####Ã‚ > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.Ã‚ ######) And no one> has quoted this first line> >> > Now i am thankfull for u ,u havÃ‚ givn the first line too ###Ã‚ > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.###> >> > Those days no one quoted this missing first LineÃ‚ even when> challenged it they rather escaped the discussion saying some credential> abt him/ family or parampara ( u can also refer in this grp too as i> dont want to name any body ), even some one was claiming as if thier> someÃ‚ family Elder/or his guruÃ‚ is originator of this shloka and> i shud respect it .That has created more anguish in me as i know what> all this so called adages ( luggages )Ã‚ has destroyed how many> persons reputation and ability to predict .> >> > Now let us come

down to basics ,what abt basics u learned> >> > what abt ishta parivarthan ?Ã‚ what abt> > dushta parivarthan ,what abt dainya parivarthan ?? Even what abt> daridra yoga tru parivarthan ??> >> > do u think all this time it will work on that way mentioned in this> shloka> >> > if u question again ,u can see more additions to sloka s appearing> >> > By the by do u hav any idea what is the source of this shloka than any> thing written in sanskrit has any authenticity> >> > ifÃ‚ Jupiter is Lagna lord and sani is 2nd/3rd lord and sani in> lagna andÃ‚ how u predict this> >> > if jupiter is 4th Lord and lagna Lord and in 3rd house and sani in 4th> house ,how u take it ??> >> > if jupiter is 8th Lord and sani is 9th L and in parivarthan how u take> it>

>> > if jupiter is 7th L and sani is 8th Lord and sani in 7th house how u> take this> >> > all same results ??> >> > do we need the crutches of a shloka for all this situationsÃ‚ to> arrive results based on pure logic s> >> > sure one tree wont make a forest ,so one sani or one> > jup is not ultimate idea to see the chart and chart will get modify> on various factors ,but here i am asking the pure logic> >> > if we know Logics in proper way we can make 1000s of new yogas .Even> better than misleading one .> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil Nair ji & list,> >

>> > > The complete sloke which is populer in north India is as follows :> > >> > > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.> > > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.> > >> > > This is the sloke which Sri G K Goel is referring at.> > >> > > This sloke has been also discussed in details with examples in the> > > Magazine Jyotish Manthan August 2002> > issue.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > jaipur> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "astro_tellerkerala "> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > dear Goel Ji> > > >> > > > i do hav full faith in ur knowledge

but> > > >> > > > Pls see that the sloka no where says abt exchange> > > >> > > > also what ever u r saying is against rules of exchange Yoga s,Max> > > > malefics in a house can ruin that house according to basic> concepts in> > > > astrology> > > >> > > > other wise if u hav full text of shloka pls feel free to post it> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, gopal krishna> goel> > > > g.k.goel@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I also do not have the sloka> > ,but it means that:> > > > > "If Jupiter and Saturn are exchanging their signs , Saturn> > >

> > will do Viridhi to bhava and Jupiter will harm the Bhava"> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > G. K. Goel> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:22:12 +0000> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear> Gopi> > > Jee> >> > > > > Dear gopi ji> > > > >> > > > > sure ,Thanks> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,>

"gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > o.k.Sunil nair ji,thanks.... .> > > > >> > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji and List> > > > > > >> > > > > > > here is the adage on sani and jup propogated By some> > > > astrologers> > > > > > >> > > > > > > XXXXX""Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau> > > > > > > shani:"""""XXXXXX> > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Tho it does not hav any textual support> > > > > > >> > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > >> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Gopi JI> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Pls quote the full dictum if u remebr it or some> forumites> > > > may b> > > > > > > > knowing it> > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > even this was discussed many times in grp> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > i do remebr it but forget full quote> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > vridhi karo manda ------------ something like this i blv> ,means> > > > sat> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > increse the significations of the house it is placed and> will> > > > > > distroy> > > > > > > > the house it aspects and jup will> > destroy the signification of> > > > the> > > > > > > > houses it is placed and improv the bhavas it aspects> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even In ur case do u blv so ??> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > In that case why the sat irrespectiv of its exaltation why> it> > > > has> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > blessed u with unlimited money ( A rich person also need> not> > > > work> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > others )> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > is 10th house is all abt some paid Job ?? which is latest> > > > scenario> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > this present age ? where as in olden days how many> persons> > > were> > > > > > under> > > > > > > > permanent jobs ? with regular> > salaries> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

even in india miliatry persons and cheifs were paid in> terms> > > of> > > > > > Landed> > > > > > > > properties than a permannt salary ( atleast i know this> was so> > > > in> > > > > > > kerala> > > > > > > > History ) till the advent of islam in world history where> > > > Military> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > allowed to Loot the enmies and enslave all woman ,kids and> > > > youths> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > sell it or keep it and it was salary for them .As arbian> > > > deserts> > > > > > wont> > > > > > > > giv them enough facility for a comfortable living .> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > So 10th house has Lot of signification in actual life> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > do u think shri KN rao Ji dont hav a good job tho he may> or> > > may> > > > not> > > > > > b> > > > > > > > satisfied in it ,i dont Know much abt it> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > > > >

> > There is a dictum which says that jup spoils the house> of> > > its> > > > > > > > placement> > > > > > > > > and improves the houses it aspects and sat vice-verse.I> > > found> > > > it> > > > > > > > working> > > >> > > > > > > well.I read it in newspaper column of a well known> > > > > > astrologer.. ....> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Karan"> > > > karan@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj

ji> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me> > > > jupiter> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > exhaled in 10H and it has always given me> dis-satisfaction> > > no> > > > > > matter> > > > > > > > how> > > > > > > > > fast i grew, not had problems in promotions but nothing> ever> > > > > >> > > > satisfied.> > > > > > > > > > Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable> > > wherein> > > > i> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > always wanted to lead but is impossible in service and> > >

creates> > > > a> > > > > > > > > dissatisfaction again.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > best regards> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Karan> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Manoj> > > > Chandran> > > > > >> > > > > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bohra Ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit> > > concept> > > > is> > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it.> > > Hence> > > > my> > > > > > > > > default view is always Rashi view.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > Sudan msbohra62@> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka> comcept> > > > -dear> > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,>

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for> Judiciary,Teaching> > > > and> > > > > > > > Account> > > >> > > > > > > services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural> > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure> work> > > than> > > > he> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > punished by his Karma (Saturn).> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house> see> > > > the> > > >

> > > chalit> > > > > > > > > chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in> > > 12th,Moon> > > > is> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > 3rd> > > > > > > > > and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house> Ketu> > > > have> > > > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > Manoj> > > > > > >

Chandran> > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out> because> > > > this is> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not> > > > necessarily> > > > > > > > great.> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka> > > comcept> > > > > >> > -dear> > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > >

> > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj JI> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Very Valid and Logical Points> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well> in> > > > kali> > > > > > yuga> > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga> (> > > > means> > > > > > NON> > > > > > > > >

-impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut> > > -throat> > > > > > > > > competition and survival of fittest world with such a> > > attitude> > > > ??> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and> giv> > > only> > > > rs> > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is> just a> > > > > > > temporary> > > > > > > > > one , how many will even respect them in this Louika>

Loga> > > and> > > > who> > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil> > nair> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> com,> > > > Manoj> > > > > > > > Chandran> > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers,> Guru> > > in> > > > the> > > > > > > 10H> > > > > > > > > is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those> who> > > > have> > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H> > will> > > make> > > > > > them> > > > > > > > > constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other> > > > people.> > > > > > Some> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb> house> > >

of> > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances"> the> > > > 6H of> > > > > > > > Work> > > > > > > > > from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult> to> > > go> > > > > > past> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc> might be> > > > > > denied> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one> > >> > factor> > > > ...> > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > my> > > > > > >

> > point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can> explain> > > > career> > > > > > > > > problems with this placement.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@

....> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka> comcept> > > > -dear> > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept> > > tagging> > > > to> > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > >> > > > charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in> 10th> > > > House> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > u> > > > > > > > > may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other> > > > factors> > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > > simply clinging with such one liners> > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm> Prashna> > > > charts> > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma> ,its> > > > > > effects> > > > > > > >> > etc> > > > > > > > > working after one taken birth and its frutification till> the> > > > time> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles > and> > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like> some> > > > > > animals> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no> choices> > > > ,where> > > > > > as> > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will> also> > > in> > > > > > > humans> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic> stone> > > > > > structure> > > > > > > > > which cannot changed ( i mean our fate )> > > > > >

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the> > > > saraswathi> > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid> > > --just> > > > leav> > > > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > children to fate and sits carelessly> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > >

> > > > "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made> a> > > > > > > > > subjective(astrolog y)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the> statement> > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna> and2nd> > > > lord> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > speach(note> > > > > > > > > > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house

of> luck> > > >> > apart> > > > > > from> > > > > > > > VRY> > > > > > > > > can talk> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat> in> > > > 2nd> > > > > > asp> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > badhaka> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing> else....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > com,> > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being> > > > in> > > > > > your> > > > > > > > 2nd> > > > > > > > > house,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting the planet to blame.. Saturn is not> to be> > > > > > blamed> > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > ones> > > > > > > > > > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances> > > done> > > > in> > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > Life as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as> > > > Kriyamana> > > > > > > > >> > Karmas. Why> > > > > > > > > > > > > > must> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is> > > Saturn> > > > to> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > blamed kindly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest> > > > > >

significator> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > Your> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth> and> > > > > > happiness> > > > > > > > > from family> > > > > > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives> from> > > > planets> > > > > > > like> > > >> > > > > > > Saturn,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not> taint> > > > them> > > > > >

> > > unnecessarily.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has> become a> > > > > > > punching> > > > > > > > > bag for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses> > > normal> > > > > > > > > commonsense one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find that saturn is the> > Owner for the 10th house> > > > of> > > > > > karm> > > > > > > >

and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas> mars> > > is> > > > the> > > > > > > > > agression in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hard> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point> in> > > the> > > > > > > natural> > > > > > > > > 10th. Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant> > > > happiness> > > > > > > both> > > >

> > > > > material and> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the> > > Supreme> > > > Lord> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > one must> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in> speech> > > and> > > > > > > > treatment> > > > > > > > > . remember> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just> > > > instruments> > > > > > to> > >

> > > > > > award us> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pains> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the> > >> > various> > > > > > > planets> > > > > > > > > just show> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the> pains> > > > and> > > > > > > > > pleasures which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

One should always be proud of his> ancestory in> > > > the> > > > > > > field> > > > > > > > > he is in.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say> that> > > > you> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > doing Kriya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20> > > years> > > > ? I> > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > sure you know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa> > > > > > Yoganandji,> > > > > > > > His> > > > > > > > > guru Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri> Mahasaya,> > > and> > > > His> > > > > > > > guru> > > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and> > > undermine> > > > his> > > > > > > > Gurus> > > > > > >> > > > by saying> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to> look> > > > good> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > saying that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if> > > normally> > > > > > > common> > > > > > > > > uniqueness> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here> doing> > > > Kriya> > > > > > > yoga,> > > > > > > > > as must be> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > done actually> > ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed> to> > > your> > > > > > name> > > > > > > ?> > > > > > > > > with above ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the> > > Great> > > > > > > > Astrologer> > > > > > > > > Shri K S> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if> one> > > > > > >

considers> > > > > > > > > the term as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His> > > Shishya> > > >> > was> > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > kasbe ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his> > > shishya> > > > is> > > > > > > > myself> > > > > > > > > as having> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which> is> > > why> > > > I> > > > > > > never>

> > > > > > > > allow> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or> to my> > > > > > > > knowledge.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri> > Paramhansa> > > > Yoganandji> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > last> > > > > > > > > 15 Years> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not> demand> > > > respect> > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > this> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga,> Hong> > > > Sau or> > > > > > > > > energisations> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you> are> > > > doing> > > > > > > > this,> > > > > > > > > you have> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear> > > ordinary> > > > and> > > > > > > > > unnecessary>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > humble.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of> your> > > > > > > attainments> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > you are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and> i> >

> dont> > >> > > > > > deserve> > > > > > > > > anything> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but> cant> > > help> > > > > > since> > > > > > > > sat> > > > > > > > > in my 2nd> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real> McCoy)and> > >

a> > > > > > > > realized> > > > > > > > > one whom i> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start> > > > living> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > made me> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > .> > > >

> > com,> > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and> > > Energisation> > > > > > > > > excersises of Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a> > > >

unique> > > > > > > member> > > > > > > > > in this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I> > > would> > > > > > > > consider> > > > > > > > > as most> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna

gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > .> > > > > > com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009> > > 6:58:38> > > > AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology]> Re:> > > > > > > > Neechabanga> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of> adressing> > > > which> > > > > > i> > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont> degrade me> > > > with> > > > > > > sir> > > > > > > > > etc.Manoj ji> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya> > > yoga> > > > of> > > > > > > > > paramhans> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no> > > > > > > > istadevta/kuldevta> > > > > > > > > etc,may> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > due> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the influence of nodes as well with my 9th> > > > lord> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > 5th lord as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Dhananjayan Ji sure ,I am still searching for a valid support for this dictum in ancient Hora s Also our logic dont accpt it Rgrds sunil nair , Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:>> Pranams,> > Mr.SunilNairji,> > Sloka32 explain about Parivartana yoga alone.> > Regards/Dhananjayan> > > --- On Wed, 30/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala Re: Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.-in phaladeepika> > Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 11:56 AM> > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > Dear Gopi ji and dhananjayan ji > > i am seeing the phaladeepika translation > > http://www.astrojyo ti.com/phaladeep ika3.htm> > Now where i find such a dictum in capter 6 > > i am copying it here too > > i will post as diffrnt mail > > rgrds sunil nair > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Dhananjayan ji,> > pranams.Your name sounds and sugests that you have/had victory over> > wealth.Pl corect me if i am wrong about the meaning.This is what sri> > krishna addressed Arjuna in Geetha many a time.Nice name.> > Regarding the sloka the dictum works only when the exchange takes place> > is my humble opinion.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Dhananjayan Brahma> > abhanaya@ wrote:> > >> > > Pranams,> > > Mr.SunilNairji & Mr.Vijay Goel ji,> > >> > > I think Ch.6 sloka 32 of Phaladeepika is not in contrast to the under> > noted adage> > >> > > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.> > > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.> > > [if Jupiter and Saturn are exchanging their signs , Saturn> > > Ã‚ will do Viridhi to bhava and Jupiter will harm the Bhava].> > > I think the former hasten to explain the theme pertaining to> > Bava-lords and the latter pertains to the theme of planetary effects on> > the houses they are posited.> > > An astrologer should evaluate both the effects and focus his> > predictions on given contingency .> > >> > > I can not explain beyond the above,but some one who caught my points> > could argue / present it in a better way.> > >> > > Regards/Dhananjayan> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 30/9/09, astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana> > Vriddi karo Sani.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 12:31 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Vijay Goel Ji> > >> > > Thanks for this supposed full shloka> > >> > > when ever there was a discussion on this ADAGE all this yrsÃ‚ in> > all forums of and when ever it appeared it i also challenged it> > was alwys quoted was in theÃ‚ form of lastÃ‚ line (####Ã‚ > > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.Ã‚ ######) And no one> > has quoted this first line> > >> > > Now i am thankfull for u ,u havÃ‚ givn the first line too ###Ã‚ > > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.###> > >> > > Those days no one quoted this missing first LineÃ‚ even when> > challenged it they rather escaped the discussion saying some credential> > abt him/ family or parampara ( u can also refer in this grp too as i> > dont want to name any body ), even some one was claiming as if thier> > someÃ‚ family Elder/or his guruÃ‚ is originator of this shloka and> > i shud respect it .That has created more anguish in me as i know what> > all this so called adages ( luggages )Ã‚ has destroyed how many> > persons reputation and ability to predict .> > >> > > Now let us come down to basics ,what abt basics u learned> > >> > > what abt ishta parivarthan ?Ã‚ what abt> > > dushta parivarthan ,what abt dainya parivarthan ?? Even what abt> > daridra yoga tru parivarthan ??> > >> > > do u think all this time it will work on that way mentioned in this> > shloka> > >> > > if u question again ,u can see more additions to sloka s appearing> > >> > > By the by do u hav any idea what is the source of this shloka than any> > thing written in sanskrit has any authenticity> > >> > > ifÃ‚ Jupiter is Lagna lord and sani is 2nd/3rd lord and sani in> > lagna andÃ‚ how u predict this> > >> > > if jupiter is 4th Lord and lagna Lord and in 3rd house and sani in 4th> > house ,how u take it ??> > >> > > if jupiter is 8th Lord and sani is 9th L and in parivarthan how u take> > it> > >> > > if jupiter is 7th L and sani is 8th Lord and sani in 7th house how u> > take this> > >> > > all same results ??> > >> > > do we need the crutches of a shloka for all this situationsÃ‚ to> > arrive results based on pure logic s> > >> > > sure one tree wont make a forest ,so one sani or one> > > jup is not ultimate idea to see the chart and chart will get modify> > on various factors ,but here i am asking the pure logic> > >> > > if we know Logics in proper way we can make 1000s of new yogas .Even> > better than misleading one .> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji & list,> > > >> > > > The complete sloke which is populer in north India is as follows :> > > >> > > > Jeeva Shetre Yada Sani, sani shetra yada jeeva.> > > > Sthana hani karo jeeva, Sthana Vriddi karo Sani.> > > >> > > > This is the sloke which Sri G K Goel is referring at.> > > >> > > > This sloke has been also discussed in details with examples in the> > > > Magazine Jyotish Manthan August 2002> > > issue.> > > >> > > > Thankyou,> > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > jaipur> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > dear Goel Ji> > > > >> > > > > i do hav full faith in ur knowledge but> > > > >> > > > > Pls see that the sloka no where says abt exchange> > > > >> > > > > also what ever u r saying is against rules of exchange Yoga s,Max> > > > > malefics in a house can ruin that house according to basic> > concepts in> > > > > astrology> > > > >> > > > > other wise if u hav full text of shloka pls feel free to post it> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, gopal krishna> > goel> > > > > g.k.goel@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I also do not have the sloka> > > ,but it means that:> > > > > > "If Jupiter and Saturn are exchanging their signs , Saturn> > > > > > will do Viridhi to bhava and Jupiter will harm the Bhava"> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > G. K. Goel> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:22:12 +0000> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka comcept -dear> > Gopi> > > > Jee> > >> > > > > > Dear gopi ji> > > > > >> > > > > > sure ,Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > o.k.Sunil nair ji,thanks... .> > > > > >> > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji and List> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > here is the adage on sani and jup propogated By some> > > > > astrologers> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > XXXXX""Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau> > > > > > > > shani:"""""XXXXXX> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Tho it does not hav any textual support> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > >> > > "astro_tellerkerala "> > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi JI> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Pls quote the full dictum if u remebr it or some> > forumites> > > > > may b> > > > > > > > > knowing it> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > even this was discussed many times in grp> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > i do remebr it but forget full quote> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > vridhi karo manda ------------ something like this i blv> > ,means> > > > > sat> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > increse the significations of the house it is placed and> > will> > > > > > > distroy> > > > > > > > > the house it aspects and jup will> > > destroy the signification of> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > houses it is placed and improv the bhavas it aspects> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even In ur case do u blv so ??> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In that case why the sat irrespectiv of its exaltation why> > it> > > > > has> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > blessed u with unlimited money ( A rich person also need> > not> > > > > work> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > others )> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > is 10th house is all abt some paid Job ?? which is latest> > > > > scenario> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > this present age ? where as in olden days how many> > persons> > > > were> > > > > > > under> > > > > > > > > permanent jobs ? with regular> > > salaries> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > even in india miliatry persons and cheifs were paid in> > terms> > > > of> > > > > > > Landed> > > > > > > > > properties than a permannt salary ( atleast i know this> > was so> > > > > in> > > > > > > > kerala> > > > > > > > > History ) till the advent of islam in world history where> > > > > Military> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > allowed to Loot the enmies and enslave all woman ,kids and> > > > > youths> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > sell it or keep it and it was salary for them .As arbian> > > > > deserts> > > > > > > wont> > > > > > > > > giv them enough facility for a comfortable living .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > So 10th house has Lot of signification in actual life> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > do u think shri KN rao Ji dont hav a good job tho he may> > or> > > > may> > > > > not> > > > > > > b> > > > > > > > > satisfied in it ,i dont Know much abt it> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > > > > > > > There is a dictum which says that jup spoils the house> > of> > > > its> > > > > > > > > placement> > > > > > > > > > and improves the houses it aspects and sat vice-verse.I> > > > found> > > > > it> > > > > > > > > working> > > > >> > > > > > > > well.I read it in newspaper column of a well known> > > > > > > astrologer.. ....> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "Karan"> > > > > karan@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I would further affirm what you have mentioned, for me> > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > exhaled in 10H and it has always given me> > dis-satisfaction> > > > no> > > > > > > matter> > > > > > > > > how> > > > > > > > > > fast i grew, not had problems in promotions but nothing> > ever> > > > > > >> > > > > satisfied.> > > > > > > > > > > Also the worker and boss factor has been applicable> > > > wherein> > > > > i> > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > always wanted to lead but is impossible in service and> > > > creates> > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > dissatisfaction again.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 10H jupiter has given steady growth but not happiness.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > best regards> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Karan> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > Manoj> > > > > Chandran> > > > > > >> > > > > > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you much for your comments. The Bhava Chalit> > > > concept> > > > > is> > > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > new to me and hence I am not very confident in using it.> > > > Hence> > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > default view is always Rashi view.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > Sudan msbohra62@> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:56:13 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka> > comcept> > > > > -dear> > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Consider the Jupiter in 10 house for> > Judiciary,Teaching> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > Account> > > > >> > > > > > > > services where purity of person is require.!10th is Natural> > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > and Jupiter in Saturn house.if person did any impure> > work> > > > than> > > > > he> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > punished by his Karma (Saturn).> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > But here in Gopi ji's chart Jupiter is in 9th house> > see> > > > > the> > > > > > > > chalit> > > > > > > > > > chart.Rahu in 4th,Saturn in Lagana,Sun & Mercury in> > > > 12th,Moon> > > > > is> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > 3rd> > > > > > > > > > and Mars in 11th.Ketu is in 10th.So here in 10th house> > Ketu> > > > > have> > > > > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > Manoj> > > > > > > > Chandran> > > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you. I wanted to bring this out> > because> > > > > this is> > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > of those subtle areas, where a benefic in 10H is not> > > > > necessarily> > > > > > > > > great.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:41:20 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Badaka> > > > comcept> > > > > > >> > > -dear> > > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj JI> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Very Valid and Logical Points> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > also benefics in 10th H also dont much Board well> > in> > > > > kali> > > > > > > yuga> > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > it wants to giv the Nativ karma (a sort of) vimala Yoga> > (> > > > > means> > > > > > > NON> > > > > > > > > > -impure or pure ) means purity in actions .> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now a days how many persons can win in this cut> > > > -throat> > > > > > > > > > competition and survival of fittest world with such a> > > > attitude> > > > > ??> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now doctors if they dont terrorise patients and> > giv> > > > only> > > > > rs> > > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > > tablets for curing as the condition of the patient is> > just a> > > > > > > > temporary> > > > > > > > > > one , how many will even respect them in this Louika> > Loga> > > > and> > > > > who> > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > own crores of rs enterprises with such attitude ??> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil> > > nair> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > com,> > > > > Manoj> > > > > > > > > Chandran> > > > > > > > > > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, Sunil Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to my notes from one of my teachers,> > Guru> > > > in> > > > > the> > > > > > > > 10H> > > > > > > > > > is not especially auspicious for career. Even for those> > who> > > > > have> > > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > strong career Karma in their charts, Guru in the 10H> > > will> > > > make> > > > > > > them> > > > > > > > > > constantly dissatisf ied and unable to work under other> > > > > people.> > > > > > > Some> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > the reasons are a) 10H of the Kalapurusha is the deb> > house> > > > of> > > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > > b) From the 10H Jupiter aspects the 6H. So it "enhances"> > the> > > > > 6H of> > > > > > > > > Work> > > > > > > > > > from the 10H of career. So the person finds it difficult> > to> > > > go> > > > > > > past> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > "worker" mode to the "boss" mode. So promotions etc> > might be> > > > > > > denied> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > dissatisfaction might ensue. Ofcourse this is only one> > > >> > > factor> > > > > ...> > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > point is even without the Bhadaka concept, one can> > explain> > > > > career> > > > > > > > > > problems with this placement.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Manoj> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, September 25, 2009 10:04:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Badaka> > comcept> > > > > -dear> > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I stil not convinsed abt this badak concept> > > > tagging> > > > > to> > > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > >> > > > > charts and i blv it is highly stretchting rishi dictums> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In ur case the so called badaka planet guru in> > 10th> > > > > House> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > u> > > > > > > > > > may Not hav a regular Job but it is to b seen with other> > > > > factors> > > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > > > simply clinging with such one liners> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I blv the badaka concept has to b seen frm> > Prashna> > > > > charts> > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > as it will only shows the obstacles due to one 's karma> > ,its> > > > > > > effects> > > > > > > > >> > > etc> > > > > > > > > > working after one taken birth and its frutification till> > the> > > > > time> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > seeing prashna ( in short the frutification/ obstacles > > and> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > one's own karma done after taken the present birth )> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other wise i think it is Like making human Like> > some> > > > > > > animals> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > some tuned robotic computer progrmms and we hav no> > choices> > > > > ,where> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > is not so in reality and god has givn enough free will> > also> > > > in> > > > > > > > humans> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so our chart is not some think a Monolithic> > stone> > > > > > > structure> > > > > > > > > > which cannot changed ( i mean our fate )> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > did u find any parents even after Knowing the> > > > > saraswathi> > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > s/higher educations yogas etc in a chart of their kid> > > > --just> > > > > leav> > > > > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > children to fate and sits carelessly> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ .> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing is i never blamed sat,but just made> > a> > > > > > > > > > subjective(astrolog y)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > statement.Everythin g written about the> > statement> > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagination/ interpretation etc etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One who has nipuna yoga in 11th with lagna> > and2nd> > > > > lord> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > speach(note> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > retro) in his own house,RY in 9th house of> > luck> > > > >> > > apart> > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > VRY> > > > > > > > > > can talk> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything and get away but not the one with sat> > in> > > > > 2nd> > > > > > > asp> > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > badhaka> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jup.I am talking astrology only nothing> > else....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Do not repeat again and again about Saturn being> > > > > in> > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > 2nd> > > > > > > > > > house,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > putting the planet to blame. Saturn is not> > to be> > > > > > > blamed> > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > ones> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karmas are, for wrong or ambigous utterances> > > > done> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > present> > > > > > > > > > Life as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > result of Dridha or adridha prarabdha, or as> > > > > Kriyamana> > > > > > > > > >> > > Karmas. Why> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > must> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we hang saturn everytime for this ? How is> > > > Saturn> > > > > to> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > blamed kindly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say ? In fact Saturn will be the strongest> > > > > > > significator> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > Your> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope for acquiring self earned wealth> > and> > > > > > > happiness> > > > > > > > > > from family> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one should not always look for negatives> > from> > > > > planets> > > > > > > > like> > > > >> > > > > > > > Saturn,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Rahu, rather look at positives and not> > taint> > > > > them> > > > > > > > > > unnecessarily.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately Mars, Rahu and saturn has> > become a> > > > > > > > punching> > > > > > > > > > bag for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ills in ones Life, whereas if one just uses> > > > normal> > > > > > > > > > commonsense one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find that saturn is the> > > Owner for the 10th house> > > > > of> > > > > > > karm> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gains as seen from the 11th house, whereas> > mars> > > > is> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > agression in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hard> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work as confirmed from its Exaltation point> > in> > > > the> > > > > > > > natural> > > > > > > > > > 10th. Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually one of the prime planets to grant> > > > > happiness> > > > > > > > both> > > > > > > > > > material and> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > spiritual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets are the manifestations of the> > > > Supreme> > > > > Lord> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > one must> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > utter their names with respect both in> > speech> > > > and> > > > > > > > > treatment> > > > > > > > > > . remember> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they are not the actual culprits but just> > > > > instruments> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > award us> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pains> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or pleasures as per our prarabdha, and the> > > >> > > various> > > > > > > > planets> > > > > > > > > > just show> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reveal the various ways and nature of the> > pains> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > pleasures which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will receive, and nothing more.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One should always be proud of his> > ancestory in> > > > > the> > > > > > > > field> > > > > > > > > > he is in.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot call yourself ordinary if you say> > that> > > > > you> > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > doing Kriya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Shri Paramhansa Yoganandji for last 20> > > > years> > > > > ? I> > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > > sure you know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the greatness of Your guru Shri Paramhansa> > > > > > > Yoganandji,> > > > > > > > > His> > > > > > > > > > guru Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yukteshwarji, His guru Shri Lahiri> > Mahasaya,> > > > and> > > > > His> > > > > > > > > guru> > > > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babaji.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can one call himself ordinary and> > > > undermine> > > > > his> > > > > > > > > Gurus> > > > > > > >> > > > > by saying> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is not unique ? Why must we appear to> > look> > > > > good> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > saying that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are Unique ? Here we are not talking if> > > > normally> > > > > > > > common> > > > > > > > > > uniqueness> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific uniqueness. Is everybody here> > doing> > > > > Kriya> > > > > > > > yoga,> > > > > > > > > > as must be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done actually> > > ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why dont you deserve a "Shri " addressed> > to> > > > your> > > > > > > name> > > > > > > > ?> > > > > > > > > > with above ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even myself is a direct descendant of the> > > > Great> > > > > > > > > Astrologer> > > > > > > > > > Shri K S> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy in guru Shishya parampara if> > one> > > > > > > > considers> > > > > > > > > > the term as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > applicable in current times. Because His> > > > Shishya> > > > >> > > was> > > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > > kasbe ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Shishya was Shri sahasneji, and his> > > > shishya> > > > > is> > > > > > > > > myself> > > > > > > > > > as having> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > learnt KP system from him directly. Which> > is> > > > why> > > > > I> > > > > > > > never> > > > > > > > > > allow> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disrespect to myself as an astrologer or> > to my> > > > > > > > > knowledge.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am also a shishya of Shri> > > Paramhansa> > > > > Yoganandji> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > last> > > > > > > > > > 15 Years> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being a member of Yogoda, but do not> > demand> > > > > respect> > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > association , since not into Kriya yoga,> > Hong> > > > > Sau or> > > > > > > > > > energisations> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > techniques as taught by him. But since you> > are> > > > > doing> > > > > > > > > this,> > > > > > > > > > you have> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right not to demand respect and appear> > > > ordinary> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > unnecessary> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > humble.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be strong of your virtues and proud of> > your> > > > > > > > attainments> > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > you are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really truthful to the cause.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > .> > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to me everybody is unique and> > i> > > > dont> > > >> > > > > > > deserve> > > > > > > > > > anything> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written....sorry if you are hurt but> > cant> > > > help> > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > sat> > > > > > > > > > in my 2nd> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes makes me talk like this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing a jeevanmukta( Real> > McCoy)and> > > > a> > > > > > > > > realized> > > > > > > > > > one whom i> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personal touch said stop thinking and start> > > > > living> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > made me> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand everybody is unique.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > .> > > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Gopi ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If You are doing Kriya Yoga and> > > > Energisation> > > > > > > > > > excersises of Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paramhansa Yoganand ji, then you are a> > > > > unique> > > > > > > > member> > > > > > > > > > in this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > august> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gathering, and the affix "Shri" also I> > > > would> > > > > > > > > consider> > > > > > > > > > as most> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > ordinary> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a personage like Your goodself.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Pranams to you.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > > .> > > > > > > com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, September 19, 2009> > > > 6:58:38> > > > > AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology]> > Re:> > > > > > > > > Neechabanga> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajyoga-dear> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopi> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tripathy ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is not your usual way of> > adressing> > > > > which> > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much.Pl> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adress me the same way and dont> > degrade me> > > > > with> > > > > > > > sir> > > > > > > > > > etc.Manoj ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request is to you also please.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a sincere practitioner of kriya> > > > yoga> > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > paramhans> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogananda> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my20th yr or so till date.I have no> > > > > > > > > istadevta/kuldevta> > > > > > > > > > etc,may> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > 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