Rashi mantra in the Vedanga Jyotisha is spurious!

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Dear friends,Shri Kaul says :QuoteAll that Shri Bhattacharjya wants to prove is that except for him and some "Vedic astrologers" , all the scholars of India like S B Dikshit and Dr. Kuppanna Shastry and Dr. Suresh Chandra Mishra and even Somakar or even Gita Press translators of the Valmiki Ramayana etc. etc. were/are good for nothing fellows and were/are influenced by Max Muller's chronology!UnquoteNothing can be further from the truth. Where did I say except for me and some Vedic astrologers? So many scholars (including those who do may not believe in astrology) reject the AIT - Chronology and not me and some Vedic astrologers alone. There have been lot of research lately and Shri Kaul seem to have been sleeping. Shri

Kaul should wake up and look at the findings of the recent researches and the archaeological findings. He should also look at the deliberations in the different fora / . I said that the people like Dixit might have been honest. They had not had the benefit of seeing the results of the post-independence research. They were taught only what the colonial historians wanted them to know. The scholars like Dixit did not know about the colonial distortions of Ancient Indian History and that was not their fault. I respect people like Dixit and respectfully point out where they erred.The translator of the Balakanda, whoever he was, had erred. That is not the fault of the Gita Press. That translator did not understand the nuances of astrology. The Gita Press authorities does not check each and every lines translated. I have purchased several gita press books such as the five-volume Yoga-Vashishtha Ramayana and two-volume

two-volume Bhagavat purana andther books. I have found the translation mistakes here and there. Just because it is from the G someoIta press i shall not accept that translation will be without any mistake. Now my friends, if Shri Kaul thinks that the Max Muller's date of Rig Veda in 1200 BCE

based on the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) is correct he is at liberty

to have that view. According to Max Muller the Epic age was several centuries fter the

date of the Veda and this means the Ramayana dates are much after 1200 BCE.

If you accept these dates then of course you can deduce that the

Indians might have learnt astrology from the Greeks. If you wish to believe in what Mr. Kaul says you can go ahead.Om Namo Bhagavate VasudevayaSunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Sun, 10/4/09, Krishen <jyotirved wrote:Krishen <jyotirved Re: Rashi mantra in the Vedanga Jyotisha is spurious! Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 8:58 AM

 

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Dear friends,1)The Internet link for the INSA book was given in the mail sometime back by Shri Kaul himself. Then why can't he read it himself to see the rashi verse it. I already told that the editor has expressed that the verse may be spurious as he thought that the Indians learnt about rashi from the Greeks. Just because the editor imagines that the verse could be spurious does not make the verse spurious. Only an imbecile would agree with such imaginations without substantiation. I also told that the editor had told that the verse is there for its usefulness.2) I bought the five volumes of the Yoga Vasishtha Maharamayana by paying one thousand rupees plus postage from Chowkhamba twelve years ago. Sorry I wrote it as from the Gita press, by mistake. If Shri Kaul wants to buy it he can contact Chowkhamba and they have an

office in Delhi but the price might have gone up by now. The book is in Sanskrit-Hindi .I bought the two-volume Bhagavat puran of the Gita press. 3)If Shri Kaul is unable to interpret the verses of the Balakanda I would advise him to read the recent mails sent by me and Shri Gopal Krishna Goelj ion the subject and if he still cannot understand the verses it is his misfortune. It seems he is confused by the different dates of Lord Rama as suggested by different people. It is upto him to decide whether he trusts anybody's opinion or not or wants to go by himself. That is his decison and nobody can help. Or he should go to a person whom he fully trusts. 4)Shri Kaul thinks the Suryasiddhanta to be a work of the f!rst century BCE/CE, without having any proof. Let him live in his own imaginary world if he likes to.5)He goes on ridiculing Mayasura that he had learnt Jyotish from Surya Bhagawaan, without

citing any verse. I remember to have read the name of Vivasvat and not of Surya Bhagawwan in that context. Let Shri Kaul remain in his imaginary world if he likes to.6)Now he wants to learn about yuga calculations. If he wants the puranic yuga calculations then he should read the puranas again. He claims to have read the puranas then I wonder why he could not see the yuga-details in the puranas.If however he wants the Siddhantic yuga calculations he should approach Shri Vinay Jha or such a scholar, who has the confidence that he is fully familiar with the important Siddhantic texts.RegardsSunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Krishen <jyotirved wrote:Krishen <jyotirved Re: Rashi mantra in the Vedanga Jyotisha is

spurious! Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 9:02 AM

 

 

 

Dear friends,

Jai Shri Ram:

There are two points that are still hanging in the air:

1. Where is the Rashi mantra of the Vedanga Jyotisha in the INSA

edition, which Shri Bhattacharjya wanted Shri K. K. Mehrotra to buy to

see it for himself as to how the translators/ commentators of the edition

had declared it "not spurious" and numbered it as fifth mantra.

 

2. Has Shri Bhattacharya really bought the five folume edition of Yoga

Vasishta Maharamayana with translatoin which has been published by Gita

Press. If yes, he is requested to give me the address of the

shop/booksell from which be bought it, since on enquiry, I find that

Gita Press, Gorakhpur, have not published any such edition.

Jai Shri Ram!

A K Kaul

 

<> , Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Shri Kaul says :

>

> Quote

>

> All that Shri Bhattacharjya wants to prove is that except for him and

some "Vedic astrologers" , all the scholars of India like S B Dikshit

and Dr. Kuppanna Shastry and Dr. Suresh Chandra Mishra and even Somakar

or even Gita Press translators of the Valmiki Ramayana etc. etc.

were/are good for nothing fellows and were/are influenced by Max

Muller's chronology!

>

> Unquote

>

> Nothing can be further from the truth. Where did I say except for me

and some Vedic astrologers? So many scholars (including those who do may

not believe in astrology) reject the AIT - Chronology and not me and

some Vedic astrologers alone. There have been lot of research lately

and Shri Kaul seem to have been sleeping. Shri Kaul should wake up and

look at the findings of the recent researches and the archaeological

findings. He should also look at the deliberations in the different

fora / . I said that the people like Dixit might have been

honest. They had not had the benefit of seeing the results of the

post-independence research. They were taught only what the colonial

historians wanted them to know. The scholars like Dixit did not know

about the colonial distortions of Ancient Indian History and that was

not their fault. I respect people like Dixit and respectfully point out

where they erred.

>

> The translator of the Balakanda, whoever he was, had erred. That is

not the fault of the Gita Press. That translator did not understand the

nuances of astrology. The Gita Press authorities does not check each and

every lines translated. I have purchased several gita press books such

as the five-volume Yoga-Vashishtha Ramayana and two-volume two-volume

Bhagavat purana andther books. I have found the translation mistakes

here and there. Just because it is from the G someoIta press i shall not

accept that translation will be without any mistake.

>

> Now my friends, if Shri Kaul thinks that the Max Muller's date of Rig

Veda in 1200 BCE

> based on the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) is correct he is at liberty

> to have that view. According to Max Muller the Epic age was several

centuries fter the

> date of the Veda and this means the Ramayana dates are much after

1200 BCE.

> If you accept these dates then of course you can deduce that the

> Indians might have learnt astrology from the Greeks. If you wish to

believe in what Mr. Kaul says you can go ahead.

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

>

>

>

> --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Krishen <jyotirved@. ..> wrote:

>

> Krishen <jyotirved@. ..>

> Re: Rashi mantra in the Vedanga Jyotisha is

spurious!

> <>

> Sunday, October 4, 2009, 8:58 AM