Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher

October 7, 2009

Dear Moujiji and all,

I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions that those

surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras [astrologers] goes to Hell.

Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the sanskrit

Slokes and make comment on it.

Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of statement is

their.

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99

wrote:

>

> No Prathima ji,

> ï¿½

> An astrologer will not go to " naraka " an on the contrary, the verse is that

" samvastsar pathi... " will never go to naraka (hell) if that is what you mean.

> ï¿½

> But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty amounts for

readings/remedies/upayas/shantis/kavachams/pariharams etc., do stand a chance to

visit " naraka " .

> ï¿½

> This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread brought from

the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's bread ooozed blood (not

because he was rich but because it was earned through wrong means) and Poor

Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who remembers this was avoid visiting " naraka " , I

do think so.

> ï¿½

> regards,

> ï¿½

> Mouji

>

> --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k <prathimak07 wrote:

>

> prathima k <prathimak07

> astrology

>

> Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

>

> ï¿½

>

I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone comment on this?

> Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they charge

> minimal and take it up as part time job.

>

October 7, 2009

Dear All,

I am sorry i am not able to attach the document in this forum.

I donot know the function how to attach the document?.

Please download Narad Puran from the link below and read the page 62 of it. It

is in HIndi.

http://deepak.esmartguy.com/books.htm#

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

jaipur.

, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj

wrote:

>

> Dear Moujiji and all,

>

> I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions that those

surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras [astrologers] goes to Hell.

> Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the sanskrit

Slokes and make comment on it.

>

> Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of statement is

their.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> >

> > No Prathima ji,

> > ï¿½

> > An astrologer will not go to " naraka " an on the contrary, the verse is that

" samvastsar pathi... " will never go to naraka (hell) if that is what you mean.

> > ï¿½

> > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty amounts

for readings/remedies/upayas/shantis/kavachams/pariharams etc., do stand a

chance to visit " naraka " .

> > ï¿½

> > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread brought from

the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's bread ooozed blood (not

because he was rich but because it was earned through wrong means) and Poor

Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who remembers this was avoid visiting " naraka " , I

do think so.

> > ï¿½

> > regards,

> > ï¿½

> > Mouji

> >

> > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k <prathimak07@> wrote:

> >

> > prathima k <prathimak07@>

> > astrology

> >

> > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

> >

> > ï¿½

> >

> > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone comment on this?

> > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they charge

> > minimal and take it up as part time job.

> >

>

October 7, 2009

Dear Vijay Goel ji,

Please note that it is written " nakshatra Vidya " and not astrology.

Knowledge of nakshatra is a part of astrology, but " nakshatra Vidya " is

a term which contains a plethora of activities which I would not like to

mention here. For ex. it can also mean a Panchanga maker.

We must not quote statements from Narad Purana without going to the

marma of the same, or we land in sin if we misquote it or use it for a

discussion where the authenticity of the activity mentioned, is

questioned.

Statemengs from Narad Purana are for acceptance, and those who question

them or look for confirmations by quoting them for attack will put one

in trouble, please knmow this. You are a Brahmin and request you to on

the contrary teach us acceptance of what is written in the Puranas,

rather than question us about the same and look for our explanation for

Your acceptance.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj wrote:

>

> Dear Moujiji and all,

>

> I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions that

those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras [astrologers]

goes to Hell.

> Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the

sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.

>

> Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of

statement is their.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , Manoj Kumar mouji99@

wrote:

> >

> > No Prathima ji,

> > ï¿½

> > An astrologer will not go to " naraka " an on the contrary, the verse

is that " samvastsar pathi... " will never go to naraka (hell) if that is

what you mean.

> > ï¿½

> > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty

amounts for readings/remedies/upayas/shantis/kavachams/pariharams etc.,

do stand a chance to visit " naraka " .

> > ï¿½

> > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread

brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's

bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned

through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who

remembers this was avoid visiting " naraka " , I do think so.

> > ï¿½

> > regards,

> > ï¿½

> > Mouji

> >

> > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k prathimak07@ wrote:

> >

> > prathima k prathimak07@

> > astrology

> >

> > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

> >

> > ï¿½

> >

> > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone comment

on this?

> > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they

charge

> > minimal and take it up as part time job.

> >

>

October 7, 2009

It was my mistake to have suggested reading of these particular puranas

to everyone, and I take my words back. May God absolve me of the sin for

suggesting this to the non-believers.

bhaskar.

, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> I am sorry i am not able to attach the document in this forum.

> I donot know the function how to attach the document?.

>

> Please download Narad Puran from the link below and read the page 62

of it. It is in HIndi.

>

> http://deepak.esmartguy.com/books.htm#

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> jaipur.

>

> , " vijay.goel " goyalvj@

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Moujiji and all,

> >

> > I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions

that those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras

[astrologers] goes to Hell.

> > Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the

sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.

> >

> > Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of

statement is their.

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Regards,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > , Manoj Kumar

<mouji99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > No Prathima ji,

> > > ï¿½

> > > An astrologer will not go to " naraka " an on the contrary, the

verse is that " samvastsar pathi... " will never go to naraka (hell) if

that is what you mean.

> > > ï¿½

> > > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty

amounts for readings/remedies/upayas/shantis/kavachams/pariharams etc.,

do stand a chance to visit " naraka " .

> > > ï¿½

> > > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread

brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's

bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned

through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who

remembers this was avoid visiting " naraka " , I do think so.

> > > ï¿½

> > > regards,

> > > ï¿½

> > > Mouji

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k <prathimak07@> wrote:

> > >

> > > prathima k <prathimak07@>

> > > astrology

> > >

> > > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

> > >

> > > ï¿½

> > >

> > > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone

comment on this?

> > > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they

charge

> > > minimal and take it up as part time job.

> > >

> >

>

October 8, 2009

Dear all,Yes, that is why, in Maharashtra there are many astrologers, who do not charge.. They accept whatever the grateful clients give to them but there is no compulsion. In fact if clients want to give something they tell the clients to leave that in a platter kept some distance away beyond the vision of the astrologer so that the astrologer does not know who gave what. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Wed, 10/7/09, vijay.goel <goyalvj wrote:vijay.goel <goyalvj Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:11 AM

Dear All,

I am sorry i am not able to attach the document in this forum.

I donot know the function how to attach the document?.

Please download Narad Puran from the link below and read the page 62 of it. It is in HIndi.

http://deepak. esmartguy. com/books. htm#

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

jaipur.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj > wrote:

>

> Dear Moujiji and all,

>

> I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions that those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras [astrologers] goes to Hell.

> Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.

>

> Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of statement is their.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:

> >

> > No Prathima ji,

> > ï¿½

> > An astrologer will not go to "naraka" an on the contrary, the verse is that "samvastsar pathi..." will never go to naraka (hell) if that is what you mean.

> > ï¿½

> > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty amounts for readings/remedies/ upayas/shantis/ kavachams/ pariharams etc., do stand a chance to visit "naraka".

> > ï¿½

> > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who remembers this was avoid visiting "naraka", I do think so.

> > ï¿½

> > regards,

> > ï¿½

> > Mouji

> >

> > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k <prathimak07@ > wrote:

> >

> > prathima k <prathimak07@ >

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] astrology

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

> >

> > ï¿½

> >

> > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone comment on this?

> > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they charge

> > minimal and take it up as part time job.

> >

>

October 8, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,Thank you for your mail. Now it is clear why some people kike Kaul want to keep the Nakshatras out of their Calendar. They think that this way they will escape being the nakshatra-jeevis. Harimalla also says that the Nakshatras have no effect. I think helping people with the knowledge of astrology cannot be sin. Then Psychiatrists and ither similar professionals will also be sinners. I do not charge for whatever I say from my limited knowledge of astrology. Once a small businessman asked me to see his horoscope and I guided him after seeing his horoscope and he was greatly benefitted. Then he wanted to give me someting in return. I refused. Then he forced me to take a present. I hope that will not be a sin. Somebody should do some research on this topic.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On

Wed, 10/7/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:19 AM

Dear Vijay Goel ji,

Please note that it is written "nakshatra Vidya" and not astrology.

Knowledge of nakshatra is a part of astrology, but "nakshatra Vidya" is

a term which contains a plethora of activities which I would not like to

mention here. For ex. it can also mean a Panchanga maker.

We must not quote statements from Narad Purana without going to the

marma of the same, or we land in sin if we misquote it or use it for a

discussion where the authenticity of the activity mentioned, is

questioned.

Statemengs from Narad Purana are for acceptance, and those who question

them or look for confirmations by quoting them for attack will put one

in trouble, please knmow this. You are a Brahmin and request you to on

the contrary teach us acceptance of what is written in the Puranas,

rather than question us about the same and look for our explanation for

Your acceptance.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"

<goyalvj > wrote:

>

> Dear Moujiji and all,

>

> I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions that

those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras [astrologers]

goes to Hell.

> Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the

sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.

>

> Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of

statement is their.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@

wrote:

> >

> > No Prathima ji,

> > ï¿½

> > An astrologer will not go to "naraka" an on the contrary, the verse

is that "samvastsar pathi..." will never go to naraka (hell) if that is

what you mean.

> > ï¿½

> > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty

amounts for readings/remedies/ upayas/shantis/ kavachams/ pariharams etc.,

do stand a chance to visit "naraka".

> > ï¿½

> > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread

brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's

bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned

through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who

remembers this was avoid visiting "naraka", I do think so.

> > ï¿½

> > regards,

> > ï¿½

> > Mouji

> >

> > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k prathimak07@ wrote:

> >

> > prathima k prathimak07@

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] astrology

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

> >

> > ï¿½

> >

> > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone comment

on this?

> > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they

charge

> > minimal and take it up as part time job.

> >

>

October 8, 2009

dEAR sIR . Why are we giving uncalled for importance to Mr.Kaul.We should help each other to improve our skills.G. K. Goel

October 8, 2009

Respected Bhaskerji,Dev Rishi Narad is among the first Guru's who taught astrology to mankind.I donot have any doubt in Him. Their is interesting quote from Swami Sivananda Maharaj on the nature of mind. // You have heard the saying, "The Devil can quote scriptures for its purpose". Similarly the mind can use a virtue to indulge in a vice. It has an inborn inclination to perversion. It can even take the support of a perfectly good principle to seemingly justify the most unprincipled sort of action. Unless it is scrutinised dispassionately, its tricks are never fully discovered. //This type of mind is born by Kaul type of people. I have no worries nor have any time for these type of people.My basic thinking is among the FRAUD and CHEATING in any profession linked with material knowledge (CA, law, etc), is liable for less punishment than those who are doing in the name of Devas and spiritual knowledge.My basic purpose for quoting this page so that we can get the right sanskrit sloke and have proper understanding of it. Thanking you,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > Please note that it is written "nakshatra Vidya" and not astrology.> Knowledge of nakshatra is a part of astrology, but "nakshatra Vidya" is> a term which contains a plethora of activities which I would not like to> mention here. For ex. it can also mean a Panchanga maker.> > We must not quote statements from Narad Purana without going to the> marma of the same, or we land in sin if we misquote it or use it for a> discussion where the authenticity of the activity mentioned, is> questioned.> > Statemengs from Narad Purana are for acceptance, and those who question> them or look for confirmations by quoting them for attack will put one> in trouble, please knmow this. You are a Brahmin and request you to on> the contrary teach us acceptance of what is written in the Puranas,> rather than question us about the same and look for our explanation for> Your acceptance.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear Moujiji and all,> >> > I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions that> those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras [astrologers]> goes to Hell.> > Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the> sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.> >> > Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of> statement is their.> >> > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> >> > , Manoj Kumar mouji99@> wrote:> > >> > > No Prathima ji,> > > ï¿½> > > An astrologer will not go to "naraka" an on the contrary, the verse> is that "samvastsar pathi..." will never go to naraka (hell) if that is> what you mean.> > > ï¿½> > > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty> amounts for readings/remedies/upayas/shantis/kavachams/pariharams etc.,> do stand a chance to visit "naraka".> > > ï¿½> > > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread> brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's> bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned> through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who> remembers this was avoid visiting "naraka", I do think so.> > > ï¿½> > > regards,> > > ï¿½> > > Mouji> > >> > > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k prathimak07@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > prathima k prathimak07@> > > astrology> > > > > > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM> > >> > >> > > ï¿½> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone comment> on this?> > > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they> charge> > > minimal and take it up as part time job.> > >> >>

October 8, 2009

Dear Vijay Goel ji,

No one stops an astrologer from accepting "dakshina" as the sages also recognised the need for "pet poojan" and that was the reason for Sage Bhrigu to have written Bhrigu Shastra.

In the qualifications attributed to an astrologer, an astrologer need to be polite, sooth-saying, not greedy and such an exhaustive list is attached for qualities of an astrologer.

But yes, when you demand fees, that fees no longer remains a dakshina and hence such an astrologer, does stand change of visiting Naraka. Money brings in greed is a well known fact. All the known great saints of this world have denounced money. On the contrary, what one finds in today's world is that all the known names as Saints never forget to construct big big ashrams only to lead to fights amongst their disciples when they leave this world.

Astrology is a medium to understand the theory of Karma. One's own karmas and karmas of the individuals who come to consult an astrologer. People have been advocating the theory that when doctors, lawyers and other such professionals charge fee, why cant the poor astrologer do it, because he also spends his time and energy on such consultations. But then the astrologers need to scratch their outer surface and see whether they are as perfect in their knowledge as the other professionals. This offcourse can be done only by leaving one's ego aside, which is well nigh impossible because there is an old famous saying in english, "wise men seldom agree and fools seldom differ".

It is for an individual to decide what course he has to take on this journey because astrology is not learnt in one life. "Hoi hai soi jo raam rachi rakha....", an astrologer is also subservient to the science he professes that he knows or has mastered but then he himself has also to undergo the effects of the dasha running in his life. I had given the example of guru Nanak only to emphasise that when you accept money, you also accept the karmas of the person offering you money and you never know the mode or medium through which he has earned money.

I am not trying to sermonise anyone or preach anything by saying so. I am just putting forth my views on the subject. It is always for an individual to decide what suits him best.

best wishes,

Mouji

--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 4:15 AM

Dear all,Yes, that is why, in Maharashtra there are many astrologers, who do not charge.. They accept whatever the grateful clients give to them but there is no compulsion. In fact if clients want to give something they tell the clients to leave that in a platter kept some distance away beyond the vision of the astrologer so that the astrologer does not know who gave what. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Wed, 10/7/09, vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisherancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:11 AM

Dear All,I am sorry i am not able to attach the document in this forum.I donot know the function how to attach the document?.Please download Narad Puran from the link below and read the page 62 of it. It is in HIndi. http://deepak. esmartguy. com/books. htm#Thankyou,Regards,Vijay Goeljaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj > wrote:>> > > Dear Moujiji and all,> > I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions that those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras [astrologers] goes to Hell.> Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.> > Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type

of statement is their.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:> >> > No Prathima ji,> > ï¿½> > An astrologer will not go to "naraka" an on the contrary, the verse is that "samvastsar pathi..." will never go to naraka (hell) if that is what you mean.> > ï¿½> > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty amounts for readings/remedies/ upayas/shantis/ kavachams/ pariharams etc., do stand a chance to visit "naraka".> > ï¿½> > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk.

Anyone who remembers this was avoid visiting "naraka", I do think so.> > ï¿½> > regards,> > ï¿½> > Mouji> > > > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k <prathimak07@ > wrote:> > > > > > prathima k <prathimak07@ >> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] astrology> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM> > > > > > ï¿½ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone comment on this?> > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they charge> > minimal and take it up as part time job.>

>>

October 8, 2009

Dear Goel ji,

Thank You for confirming the reasons. The actions mentioned in the quote of

Sivananda you gave, was actually what I was worried about when I wrote to you.

You are perfect in observing that those cheating in name of Spirituality,

Religion and I add Jyotish, will all go to ghor narak and bear yatnas for many

yugas before they are given re-birth as a lizard or such some insect.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj

wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskerji,

>

> Dev Rishi Narad is among the first Guru's who taught astrology to

> mankind.

> I donot have any doubt in Him.

>

> Their is interesting quote from Swami Sivananda Maharaj on the nature of

> mind.

>

> // You have heard the saying, " The Devil can quote scriptures for its

> purpose " . Similarly the mind can use a virtue to indulge in a vice. It

> has an inborn inclination to perversion. It can even take the support of

> a perfectly good principle to seemingly justify the most unprincipled

> sort of action. Unless it is scrutinised dispassionately, its tricks

> are never fully discovered. //

>

> This type of mind is born by Kaul type of people. I have no worries nor

> have any time for these type of people.

>

> My basic thinking is among the FRAUD and CHEATING in any profession

> linked with material knowledge (CA, law, etc), is liable for less

> punishment than those who are doing in the name of Devas and spiritual

> knowledge.

>

> My basic purpose for quoting this page so that we can get the right

> sanskrit sloke and have proper understanding of it.

>

> Thanking you,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> >

> > Please note that it is written " nakshatra Vidya " and not astrology.

> > Knowledge of nakshatra is a part of astrology, but " nakshatra Vidya "

> is

> > a term which contains a plethora of activities which I would not like

> to

> > mention here. For ex. it can also mean a Panchanga maker.

> >

> > We must not quote statements from Narad Purana without going to the

> > marma of the same, or we land in sin if we misquote it or use it for

> a

> > discussion where the authenticity of the activity mentioned, is

> > questioned.

> >

> > Statemengs from Narad Purana are for acceptance, and those who

> question

> > them or look for confirmations by quoting them for attack will put one

> > in trouble, please knmow this. You are a Brahmin and request you to on

> > the contrary teach us acceptance of what is written in the Puranas,

> > rather than question us about the same and look for our explanation

> for

> > Your acceptance.

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " vijay.goel "

> > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Moujiji and all,

> > >

> > > I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions

> that

> > those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras

> [astrologers]

> > goes to Hell.

> > > Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the

> > sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.

> > >

> > > Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of

> > statement is their.

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > , Manoj Kumar

> mouji99@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > No Prathima ji,

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > An astrologer will not go to " naraka " an on the contrary, the

> verse

> > is that " samvastsar pathi... " will never go to naraka (hell) if that

> is

> > what you mean.

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty

> > amounts for readings/remedies/upayas/shantis/kavachams/pariharams

> etc.,

> > do stand a chance to visit " naraka " .

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread

> > brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's

> > bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned

> > through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who

> > remembers this was avoid visiting " naraka " , I do think so.

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > regards,

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > Mouji

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k prathimak07@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > prathima k prathimak07@

> > > > astrology

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

> > > >

> > > > ï¿½

> > > >

> > > > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone

> comment

> > on this?

> > > > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they

> > charge

> > > > minimal and take it up as part time job.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 8, 2009

Dear Bhaskarji,Goelji has written: My basic thinking is among the FRAUD and CHEATING in any profession

> linked with material knowledge (CA, law, etc), is liable for less

> punishment than those who are doing in the name of Devas and spiritual

> knowledge.By this I understand that he is of the opinion that while any cheating is bad and will attract punishment the cheating by an astrologer may attrtact more severe punishment as it is done in the name of the Devas and spiritual knowledge. This, as I understand, means that the astrologer will have to be absolutely sincere and cannot take any liberty like people in other professions CA, Law etc.) can.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Wed, 10/7/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:48 PM

Dear Goel ji,

Thank You for confirming the reasons. The actions mentioned in the quote of Sivananda you gave, was actually what I was worried about when I wrote to you.

You are perfect in observing that those cheating in name of Spirituality, Religion and I add Jyotish, will all go to ghor narak and bear yatnas for many yugas before they are given re-birth as a lizard or such some insect.

regards,

Bhaskar.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj > wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskerji,

>

> Dev Rishi Narad is among the first Guru's who taught astrology to

> mankind.

> I donot have any doubt in Him.

>

> Their is interesting quote from Swami Sivananda Maharaj on the nature of

> mind.

>

> // You have heard the saying, "The Devil can quote scriptures for its

> purpose". Similarly the mind can use a virtue to indulge in a vice. It

> has an inborn inclination to perversion. It can even take the support of

> a perfectly good principle to seemingly justify the most unprincipled

> sort of action. Unless it is scrutinised dispassionately, its tricks

> are never fully discovered. //

>

> This type of mind is born by Kaul type of people. I have no worries nor

> have any time for these type of people.

>

> My basic thinking is among the FRAUD and CHEATING in any profession

> linked with material knowledge (CA, law, etc), is liable for less

> punishment than those who are doing in the name of Devas and spiritual

> knowledge.

>

> My basic purpose for quoting this page so that we can get the right

> sanskrit sloke and have proper understanding of it.

>

> Thanking you,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> >

> > Please note that it is written "nakshatra Vidya" and not astrology.

> > Knowledge of nakshatra is a part of astrology, but "nakshatra Vidya"

> is

> > a term which contains a plethora of activities which I would not like

> to

> > mention here. For ex. it can also mean a Panchanga maker.

> >

> > We must not quote statements from Narad Purana without going to the

> > marma of the same, or we land in sin if we misquote it or use it for

> a

> > discussion where the authenticity of the activity mentioned, is

> > questioned.

> >

> > Statemengs from Narad Purana are for acceptance, and those who

> question

> > them or look for confirmations by quoting them for attack will put one

> > in trouble, please knmow this. You are a Brahmin and request you to on

> > the contrary teach us acceptance of what is written in the Puranas,

> > rather than question us about the same and look for our explanation

> for

> > Your acceptance.

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"

> > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Moujiji and all,

> > >

> > > I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions

> that

> > those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras

> [astrologers]

> > goes to Hell.

> > > Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the

> > sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.

> > >

> > > Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of

> > statement is their.

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar

> mouji99@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > No Prathima ji,

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > An astrologer will not go to "naraka" an on the contrary, the

> verse

> > is that "samvastsar pathi..." will never go to naraka (hell) if that

> is

> > what you mean.

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty

> > amounts for readings/remedies/ upayas/shantis/ kavachams/ pariharams

> etc.,

> > do stand a chance to visit "naraka".

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread

> > brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's

> > bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned

> > through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who

> > remembers this was avoid visiting "naraka", I do think so.

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > regards,

> > > > ï¿½

> > > > Mouji

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k prathimak07@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > prathima k prathimak07@

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] astrology

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM

> > > >

> > > > ï¿½

> > > >

> > > > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone

> comment

> > on this?

> > > > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they

> > charge

> > > > minimal and take it up as part time job.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 8, 2009

Perfectly right! Suniliji,

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> Goelji has written:

>

> My basic thinking is among the FRAUD and CHEATING in any profession

>

> > linked with material knowledge (CA, law, etc), is liable for less

>

> > punishment than those who are doing in the name of Devas and spiritual

>

> > knowledge.

>

> By this I understand that he is of the opinion that while any cheating is bad

and will attract punishment the cheating by an astrologer may attrtact more

severe punishment as it is done in the name of the Devas and spiritual

knowledge. This, as I understand, means that the astrologer will have to be

absolutely sincere and cannot take any liberty like people in other professions

CA, Law etc.) can.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

October 9, 2009

Dear Sunil-ji,

This reminds me of a story in MahaBharata.

When Yudhisthira was crowned as Yuvaraj, a case of of theft came for

hearing. Everybody asked that Yudhisthira should judge the theft case

and give verdict. It was supposed to be a test case for him.

There were 4 accused persons- 1 Brahmin, 1 Ksatriya, 1 Vaishya &

1 Shudra. They committed the crime together

But Yudhisthira gave different level of punishments to everyone. The

Shudra person got the least punishment, Vaishya slightly more and so

on and the Brahmin got the highest punishment.

When asked about it, Yudhisthira stated that Shudra is unaware about

the laws and works under others instruction and hence received least

punishment. Whereas brahman is most knowledgeable and supposed

to lead everybody else --hence liable to stricter punishment.

One has to be gifted with Almighty's blessing to be a good astrologer.

And if such gifted person starts cheating, he deserves hell. Like a

lowly placed Cop sometimes takes bribe...sometimes SC Judges may

accept bribe. The repercussion is different and the punishment should

also be different.

regards

Chakraborty

Sunil Bhattacharjya [sunil_bhattacharjya] Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher

Dear Bhaskarji,Goelji has written:My basic thinking is among the FRAUD and CHEATING in any profession> linked with material knowledge (CA, law, etc), is liable for less> punishment than those who are doing in the name of Devas and spiritual> knowledge.By this I understand that he is of the opinion that while any cheating is bad and will attract punishment the cheating by an astrologer may attrtact more severe punishment as it is done in the name of the Devas and spiritual knowledge. This, as I understand, means that the astrologer will have to be absolutely sincere and cannot take any liberty like people in other professions CA, Law etc.) can.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Wed, 10/7/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:48 PM

Dear Goel ji,Thank You for confirming the reasons. The actions mentioned in the quote of Sivananda you gave, was actually what I was worried about when I wrote to you.You are perfect in observing that those cheating in name of Spirituality, Religion and I add Jyotish, will all go to ghor narak and bear yatnas for many yugas before they are given re-birth as a lizard or such some insect.regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj > wrote:>> Respected Bhaskerji,> > Dev Rishi Narad is among the first Guru's who taught astrology to> mankind.> I donot have any doubt in Him.> > Their is interesting quote from Swami Sivananda Maharaj on the nature of> mind.> > // You have heard the saying, "The Devil can quote scriptures for its> purpose". Similarly the mind can use a virtue to indulge in a vice. It> has an inborn inclination to perversion. It can even take the support of> a perfectly good principle to seemingly justify the most unprincipled> sort of action. Unless it is scrutinised dispassionately, its tricks> are never fully discovered. //> > This type of mind is born by Kaul type of people. I have no worries nor> have any time for these type of people.> > My basic thinking is among the FRAUD and CHEATING in any profession> linked with material knowledge (CA, law, etc), is liable for less> punishment than those who are doing in the name of Devas and spiritual> knowledge.> > My basic purpose for quoting this page so that we can get the right> sanskrit sloke and have proper understanding of it.> > Thanking you,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> >> >> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> >> > Please note that it is written "nakshatra Vidya" and not astrology.> > Knowledge of nakshatra is a part of astrology, but "nakshatra Vidya"> is> > a term which contains a plethora of activities which I would not like> to> > mention here. For ex. it can also mean a Panchanga maker.> >> > We must not quote statements from Narad Purana without going to the> > marma of the same, or we land in sin if we misquote it or use it for> a> > discussion where the authenticity of the activity mentioned, is> > questioned.> >> > Statemengs from Narad Purana are for acceptance, and those who> question> > them or look for confirmations by quoting them for attack will put one> > in trouble, please knmow this. You are a Brahmin and request you to on> > the contrary teach us acceptance of what is written in the Puranas,> > rather than question us about the same and look for our explanation> for> > Your acceptance.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Moujiji and all,> > >> > > I am attaching the page 62 of Narad Puran, which clearly mentions> that> > those surviving by giving the readings based on nakshtras> [astrologers]> > goes to Hell.> > > Since this version does not contain slokas please somebody find the> > sanskrit Slokes and make comment on it.> > >> > > Dev Rishi Narad taught astrology to the world why this type of> > statement is their.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > No Prathima ji,> > > > ï¿½> > > > An astrologer will not go to "naraka" an on the contrary, the> verse> > is that "samvastsar pathi..." will never go to naraka (hell) if that> is> > what you mean.> > > > ï¿½> > > > But yes, the mercenaries posing as astrologers and charging hefty> > amounts for readings/remedies/ upayas/shantis/ kavachams/ pariharams> etc.,> > do stand a chance to visit "naraka".> > > > ï¿½> > > > This is well explained by Guru Nanak ji, when he squeezed bread> > brought from the house of a rich man and a poor man. The Rich Man's> > bread ooozed blood (not because he was rich but because it was earned> > through wrong means) and Poor Man's bread oozed milk. Anyone who> > remembers this was avoid visiting "naraka", I do think so.> > > > ï¿½> > > > regards,> > > > ï¿½> > > > Mouji> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 10/6/09, prathima k prathimak07@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > prathima k prathimak07@> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] astrology> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:59 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ï¿½> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I have heard that astrologers will go to naraka. Can anyone> comment> > on this?> > > > Then why do astrologers charge so much to predict. Why cant they> > charge> > > > minimal and take it up as part time job.> > > >> > >> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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October 9, 2009

chaturvarnam maya shrishtam guna karma vibhagja...goes the shloka in Gita. And then it goes on to define that if a Brahmin commits a sin, he has to make maximum repayment than Kshatriya, Vaishya or a Shoodra.

regards,

Mouji--- On Fri, 10/9/09, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2RE: Re: Narad Puran Pg. 62 Gita Press Publisher"' '" Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:52 AM