Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Dear Dheendayalan ji A very interesting quiz. [ 1 ] To get rid of the bad effects of sat and sun any where in the kundali , it is not the venus you have to seek the help of,it is mercury. By serving the karak relatives of mercury the poison of this combination can be minimised. The karak relatives of mercury are : sister , daughter , bua , mausi , unmarried sali. [ 2 ] The concept of masnui planets is interpreted differently by lal kitab students. I have my own method of using that information , not the way you have done. Your method would lead to generating so many complex combinations . That didn't seem to be the purpose of the book. The concept of the masnui planets , to my mind , was entirely different. But I will not go into that because it is contrary to what most lal kitabists believe. [ 2 ] For the sake of the quiz , let us assume that you brought venus into this combination. Now what have you done, you have put together : sun = ven + merc sat = ven + jup ven = rah + ket and remember it is a pakka ghar of venus, sat is exalted here and sun is debilitated. Therefore venus would dictate things here. Since sat is his friend , venus would harm the already weak sun. Sun would be sandwiched between two enemies , ven and sat. On the rebound sun will harm ven and the venus part of sat { ref : sat = ven + jup }. The result of all this fight would be the loss of the 7th house and its karkatwa. This is one scenario. The other scenario is : By getting venus here you have brought both rahu and ketu into the 7th house { ref : ven = rah + ket }and you can imagine what the result would be. The sum total of your upaya , bringing venus to the 7th house, results in marital discord leading to seperation, loss in business , danger in foriegn travel etc. There can be an upaya even for this situation {ven+sat+sun in 7th} , created by mistake , but would have to be formulated with care, and I know what the best upaya would be. [ 3 ] Finally , the aspect dilema : aspect of venus on sat Vs the aspect of sat on ven. According to the vedic astrology , if ven aspects sat then sat would aspect ven automatically. This doesn't happen in Lal Kitab.If ven is in the 4th house and the sat in the 10th then ven aspects sat but sat doesn't aspect ven. The light of the torch goes forwards and not backwards. I hope this explains. may be other gurus here would like to add more to it. sincerely, upadhyay lalkitab , subbaraju dheenadayalan <dheena0104> wrote: > Dear Shri Suresh Upadhyay Jee > > With respects to my Guru, herewith I submit my doubts > for further clarification. > > For the present discussion let me request Sun and Sat > to be in house 7. This combination informs that Venus > gets destroyed (Apart from the information regarding > negative Mars). In order to help Sat, I request Venus > to be in house 7 along with Sun and Sat in order to > help Sat as well to save him from the destruction. > This triad Sun-Ven-Sat immediately exhibited several > combinational effect like Sun-Ven(artificial Jupiter), > Ven-Sat(Kethu exalted), Sun-Sat(Rahu debilitated), > also Sun-Sat (negative Mars) and confused me. > > At this situation, my confusion is > > 1) Venus gets destroyed if Saturn is being aspect by > the Sun in any horoscope. According to the present > example, Saturn is with Sun so Venus gets destroyed. > But Venus is strong by placement that is in house7. It > will get destroyed or not? It will be able to help > Saturn. If so to what extent it will help Saturn? > > 2) The aspect of Venus on Saturn causes loss of money > and wealth, but the aspect of Saturn on Venus proves > highly beneficial. Because Venus is with Saturn, How > to decide the resultant aspect effect, I mean who > aspects whom? (because both are in the same house). > What will be the final result? > > 3) Apart from the combination effects like, Ven-Sat > (Ketu exalted), Sun-Sat (Rahu debilitated), also > Sun-Sat (negative Mars), which are different stories > and excluding them, what will be the effect of Sun-Ven > (artificial Jupiter) combination. Is it permitted to > consider this artificial Jupiter and Saturn as one of > the combination present in house 7, (where Saturn is > stronger than Jupiter here) for general > interpretation? > > Thanking you. > > Yours Sincerely, > S.Dheenadayalan > > > ===== > Dr. S.DHEENADAYALAN > > > > > > > Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > ph/print_splash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Dear Sir, I have venus, sun, and jupiter in the 6th house. Which planet would be most affected by this combination, and what remedies are required? i have been told to fast on Thrusday and on Friday. Can u suggest?upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd wrote: Dear Dheendayalan jiA very interesting quiz.[ 1 ] To get rid of the bad effects of sat and sun any where in the kundali , it is not the venus you have to seek the help of,it is mercury. By serving the karak relatives of mercury the poison of this combination can be minimised. The karak relatives of mercury are : sister , daughter , bua , mausi , unmarried sali.[ 2 ] The concept of masnui planets is interpreted differently by lal kitab students. I have my own method of using that information , not the way you have done. Your method would lead to generating so many complex combinations . That didn't seem to be the purpose of the book. The concept of the masnui planets , to my mind , was entirely different. But I will not go into that because it is contrary to what most lal kitabists believe.[ 2 ] For the sake of the quiz , let us assume that you brought venus into this combination. Now what have you done, you have put together :sun = ven + mercsat = ven + jupven = rah + ketand remember it is a pakka ghar of venus, sat is exalted here and sun is debilitated.Therefore venus would dictate things here. Since sat is his friend , venus would harm the already weak sun. Sun would be sandwiched between two enemies , ven and sat. On the rebound sun will harm ven and the venus part of sat { ref : sat = ven + jup }. The result of all this fight would be the loss of the 7th house and its karkatwa. This is one scenario.The other scenario is : By getting venus here you have brought both rahu and ketu into the 7th house { ref : ven = rah + ket }and you can imagine what the result would be.The sum total of your upaya , bringing venus to the 7th house, results in marital discord leading to seperation, loss in business , danger in foriegn travel etc.There can be an upaya even for this situation {ven+sat+sun in 7th} , created by mistake , but would have to be formulated with care, and I know what the best upaya would be.[ 3 ] Finally , the aspect dilema :aspect of venus on sat Vs the aspect of sat on ven.According to the vedic astrology , if ven aspects sat then sat would aspect ven automatically. This doesn't happen in Lal Kitab.If ven is in the 4th house and the sat in the 10th then ven aspects sat but sat doesn't aspect ven. The light of the torch goes forwards and not backwards.I hope this explains. may be other gurus here would like to add more to it.sincerely,upadhyaylalkitab , subbaraju dheenadayalan <dheena0104> wrote:> Dear Shri Suresh Upadhyay Jee> > With respects to my Guru, herewith I submit my doubts> for further clarification.> > For the present discussion let me request Sun and Sat> to be in house 7. This combination informs that Venus> gets destroyed (Apart from the information regarding> negative Mars). In order to help Sat, I request Venus> to be in house 7 along with Sun and Sat in order to> help Sat as well to save him from the destruction.> This triad Sun-Ven-Sat immediately exhibited several> combinational effect like Sun-Ven(artificial Jupiter),> Ven-Sat(Kethu exalted), Sun-Sat(Rahu debilitated),> also Sun-Sat (negative Mars) and confused me. > > At this situation, my confusion is> > 1) Venus gets destroyed if Saturn is being aspect by> the Sun in any horoscope. According to the present> example, Saturn is with Sun so Venus gets destroyed.> But Venus is strong by placement that is in house7. It> will get destroyed or not? It will be able to help> Saturn. If so to what extent it will help Saturn?> > 2) The aspect of Venus on Saturn causes loss of money> and wealth, but the aspect of Saturn on Venus proves> highly beneficial. Because Venus is with Saturn, How> to decide the resultant aspect effect, I mean who> aspects whom? (because both are in the same house).> What will be the final result?> > 3) Apart from the combination effects like, Ven-Sat> (Ketu exalted), Sun-Sat (Rahu debilitated), also> Sun-Sat (negative Mars), which are different stories> and excluding them, what will be the effect of Sun-Ven> (artificial Jupiter) combination. Is it permitted to> consider this artificial Jupiter and Saturn as one of> the combination present in house 7, (where Saturn is> stronger than Jupiter here) for general> interpretation? > > Thanking you.> > Yours Sincerely,> S.Dheenadayalan> > > =====> Dr. S.DHEENADAYALAN> > > > > > > Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢> ph/print_splash India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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