Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Dear Syndhu ji, There are a few basic differences between the traditional or vedic astrology and the Lal kitab system. Therefore a few things might appear strange or new in the analysis. I said this so that you could appreciate the analysis without a mental clash of concepts. Analysing the placement of three planets in the 6th house according to the Lal Kitab : [ 1 ] As a general thumb rule , without knowing the placement of the other planets, the position of sun,venus and jupiter in the 6th house is considered bad. [ 2 ] The 6th house is a pakka ghar { owned } of mercury. Therefore ,first we see the relationship of the owner of the house and its tenants. venus and merc are mutual friend sun is considered a friend by merc , but sun doesn't consider him so. jupiter considers merc as his enemy whereas merc considers him as 'sam' [ 3 ] Venus in the 6th house is considered as debilitated. For rahu the 6th house would be the best placement. [ 4 ] Now which planet gets effected the most : sun = merc + ven jup = sun + ven ven = rah + ket The most effected planet would therefore be , in order: { a } Venus , because it is 'neech' here { b } Jupiter , because it is three quater venus {venus part of the sun + venus } { c } sun , because a part of it , ven , is neech [ 5 ] What would be the upaya for them ? The upaya are formulated keeping in mind the other planetary positions. Therefore no upaya can be suggested on this information alone. sincerely, upadhyay lalkitab , Syndhu <sindhu_b> wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I have venus, sun, and jupiter in the 6th house. Which planet would be most affected by this combination, and what remedies are required? i have been told to fast on Thrusday and on Friday. Can u suggest? > > upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > Dear Dheendayalan ji > > A very interesting quiz. > > [ 1 ] To get rid of the bad effects of sat and sun any where in the > kundali , it is not the venus you have to seek the help of,it is > mercury. By serving the karak relatives of mercury the poison of this > combination can be minimised. The karak relatives of mercury are : > sister , daughter , bua , mausi , unmarried sali. > > [ 2 ] The concept of masnui planets is interpreted differently by lal > kitab students. I have my own method of using that information , not > the way you have done. Your method would lead to generating so many > complex combinations . That didn't seem to be the purpose of the > book. The concept of the masnui planets , to my mind , was entirely > different. But I will not go into that because it is contrary to what > most lal kitabists believe. > > [ 2 ] For the sake of the quiz , let us assume that you brought > venus into this combination. Now what have you done, you have put > together : > > sun = ven + merc > sat = ven + jup > ven = rah + ket > > and remember it is a pakka ghar of venus, sat is exalted here and sun > is debilitated. > > Therefore venus would dictate things here. Since sat is his friend , > venus would harm the already weak sun. Sun would be sandwiched > between two enemies , ven and sat. On the rebound sun will harm ven > and the venus part of sat { ref : sat = ven + jup }. The result of > all this fight would be the loss of the 7th house and its karkatwa. > This is one scenario. > > The other scenario is : By getting venus here you have brought both > rahu and ketu into the 7th house { ref : ven = rah + ket }and you can > imagine what the result would be. > > The sum total of your upaya , bringing venus to the 7th house, > results in marital discord leading to seperation, loss in business , > danger in foriegn travel etc. > > There can be an upaya even for this situation {ven+sat+sun in 7th} , > created by mistake , but would have to be formulated with care, and I > know what the best upaya would be. > > [ 3 ] Finally , the aspect dilema : > > aspect of venus on sat Vs the aspect of sat on ven. > > According to the vedic astrology , if ven aspects sat then sat would > aspect ven automatically. This doesn't happen in Lal Kitab.If ven is > in the 4th house and the sat in the 10th then ven aspects sat but sat > doesn't aspect ven. The light of the torch goes forwards and not > backwards. > > I hope this explains. may be other gurus here would like to add more > to it. > > sincerely, > > upadhyay > > lalkitab , subbaraju dheenadayalan > <dheena0104> wrote: > > Dear Shri Suresh Upadhyay Jee > > > > With respects to my Guru, herewith I submit my doubts > > for further clarification. > > > > For the present discussion let me request Sun and Sat > > to be in house 7. This combination informs that Venus > > gets destroyed (Apart from the information regarding > > negative Mars). In order to help Sat, I request Venus > > to be in house 7 along with Sun and Sat in order to > > help Sat as well to save him from the destruction. > > This triad Sun-Ven-Sat immediately exhibited several > > combinational effect like Sun-Ven(artificial Jupiter), > > Ven-Sat(Kethu exalted), Sun-Sat(Rahu debilitated), > > also Sun-Sat (negative Mars) and confused me. > > > > At this situation, my confusion is > > > > 1) Venus gets destroyed if Saturn is being aspect by > > the Sun in any horoscope. According to the present > > example, Saturn is with Sun so Venus gets destroyed. > > But Venus is strong by placement that is in house7. It > > will get destroyed or not? It will be able to help > > Saturn. If so to what extent it will help Saturn? > > > > 2) The aspect of Venus on Saturn causes loss of money > > and wealth, but the aspect of Saturn on Venus proves > > highly beneficial. Because Venus is with Saturn, How > > to decide the resultant aspect effect, I mean who > > aspects whom? (because both are in the same house). > > What will be the final result? > > > > 3) Apart from the combination effects like, Ven-Sat > > (Ketu exalted), Sun-Sat (Rahu debilitated), also > > Sun-Sat (negative Mars), which are different stories > > and excluding them, what will be the effect of Sun-Ven > > (artificial Jupiter) combination. Is it permitted to > > consider this artificial Jupiter and Saturn as one of > > the combination present in house 7, (where Saturn is > > stronger than Jupiter here) for general > > interpretation? > > > > Thanking you. > > > > Yours Sincerely, > > S.Dheenadayalan > > > > > > ===== > > Dr. S.DHEENADAYALAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > > ph/print_splash > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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