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Dear Syndhu ji,

 

There are a few basic differences between the traditional or vedic

astrology and the Lal kitab system. Therefore a few things might

appear strange or new in the analysis. I said this so that you could

appreciate the analysis without a mental clash of concepts.

 

Analysing the placement of three planets in the 6th house according

to the Lal Kitab :

 

[ 1 ] As a general thumb rule , without knowing the placement of the

other planets, the position of sun,venus and jupiter in the 6th house

is considered bad.

 

[ 2 ] The 6th house is a pakka ghar { owned } of mercury.

Therefore ,first we see the relationship of the owner of the house

and its tenants.

 

venus and merc are mutual friend

sun is considered a friend by merc , but sun doesn't consider him so.

jupiter considers merc as his enemy whereas merc considers him

as 'sam'

 

[ 3 ] Venus in the 6th house is considered as debilitated. For rahu

the 6th house would be the best placement.

 

[ 4 ] Now which planet gets effected the most :

 

sun = merc + ven

jup = sun + ven

ven = rah + ket

 

The most effected planet would therefore be , in order:

 

{ a } Venus , because it is 'neech' here

 

{ b } Jupiter , because it is three quater venus {venus part of the

sun + venus }

 

{ c } sun , because a part of it , ven , is neech

 

[ 5 ] What would be the upaya for them ?

 

The upaya are formulated keeping in mind the other planetary

positions. Therefore no upaya can be suggested on this information

alone.

 

sincerely,

 

upadhyay

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , Syndhu <sindhu_b> wrote:

> Dear Sir,

>

> I have venus, sun, and jupiter in the 6th house. Which planet would

be most affected by this combination, and what remedies are required?

i have been told to fast on Thrusday and on Friday. Can u suggest?

>

> upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote:

> Dear Dheendayalan ji

>

> A very interesting quiz.

>

> [ 1 ] To get rid of the bad effects of sat and sun any where in the

> kundali , it is not the venus you have to seek the help of,it is

> mercury. By serving the karak relatives of mercury the poison of

this

> combination can be minimised. The karak relatives of mercury are :

> sister , daughter , bua , mausi , unmarried sali.

>

> [ 2 ] The concept of masnui planets is interpreted differently by

lal

> kitab students. I have my own method of using that information ,

not

> the way you have done. Your method would lead to generating so many

> complex combinations . That didn't seem to be the purpose of the

> book. The concept of the masnui planets , to my mind , was entirely

> different. But I will not go into that because it is contrary to

what

> most lal kitabists believe.

>

> [ 2 ] For the sake of the quiz , let us assume that you brought

> venus into this combination. Now what have you done, you have put

> together :

>

> sun = ven + merc

> sat = ven + jup

> ven = rah + ket

>

> and remember it is a pakka ghar of venus, sat is exalted here and

sun

> is debilitated.

>

> Therefore venus would dictate things here. Since sat is his

friend ,

> venus would harm the already weak sun. Sun would be sandwiched

> between two enemies , ven and sat. On the rebound sun will harm ven

> and the venus part of sat { ref : sat = ven + jup }. The result of

> all this fight would be the loss of the 7th house and its karkatwa.

> This is one scenario.

>

> The other scenario is : By getting venus here you have brought both

> rahu and ketu into the 7th house { ref : ven = rah + ket }and you

can

> imagine what the result would be.

>

> The sum total of your upaya , bringing venus to the 7th house,

> results in marital discord leading to seperation, loss in

business ,

> danger in foriegn travel etc.

>

> There can be an upaya even for this situation {ven+sat+sun in

7th} ,

> created by mistake , but would have to be formulated with care, and

I

> know what the best upaya would be.

>

> [ 3 ] Finally , the aspect dilema :

>

> aspect of venus on sat Vs the aspect of sat on ven.

>

> According to the vedic astrology , if ven aspects sat then sat

would

> aspect ven automatically. This doesn't happen in Lal Kitab.If ven

is

> in the 4th house and the sat in the 10th then ven aspects sat but

sat

> doesn't aspect ven. The light of the torch goes forwards and not

> backwards.

>

> I hope this explains. may be other gurus here would like to add

more

> to it.

>

> sincerely,

>

> upadhyay

>

>

lalkitab , subbaraju dheenadayalan

> <dheena0104> wrote:

> > Dear Shri Suresh Upadhyay Jee

> >

> > With respects to my Guru, herewith I submit my doubts

> > for further clarification.

> >

> > For the present discussion let me request Sun and Sat

> > to be in house 7. This combination informs that Venus

> > gets destroyed (Apart from the information regarding

> > negative Mars). In order to help Sat, I request Venus

> > to be in house 7 along with Sun and Sat in order to

> > help Sat as well to save him from the destruction.

> > This triad Sun-Ven-Sat immediately exhibited several

> > combinational effect like Sun-Ven(artificial Jupiter),

> > Ven-Sat(Kethu exalted), Sun-Sat(Rahu debilitated),

> > also Sun-Sat (negative Mars) and confused me.

> >

> > At this situation, my confusion is

> >

> > 1) Venus gets destroyed if Saturn is being aspect by

> > the Sun in any horoscope. According to the present

> > example, Saturn is with Sun so Venus gets destroyed.

> > But Venus is strong by placement that is in house7. It

> > will get destroyed or not? It will be able to help

> > Saturn. If so to what extent it will help Saturn?

> >

> > 2) The aspect of Venus on Saturn causes loss of money

> > and wealth, but the aspect of Saturn on Venus proves

> > highly beneficial. Because Venus is with Saturn, How

> > to decide the resultant aspect effect, I mean who

> > aspects whom? (because both are in the same house).

> > What will be the final result?

> >

> > 3) Apart from the combination effects like, Ven-Sat

> > (Ketu exalted), Sun-Sat (Rahu debilitated), also

> > Sun-Sat (negative Mars), which are different stories

> > and excluding them, what will be the effect of Sun-Ven

> > (artificial Jupiter) combination. Is it permitted to

> > consider this artificial Jupiter and Saturn as one of

> > the combination present in house 7, (where Saturn is

> > stronger than Jupiter here) for general

> > interpretation?

> >

> > Thanking you.

> >

> > Yours Sincerely,

> > S.Dheenadayalan

> >

> >

> > =====

> > Dr. S.DHEENADAYALAN

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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